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My contract renewal due next month and I'm using Nokia Lumia 800, quite happy with it. However, I will wait for next Windows phone to appear in the market. Which of the high end Windows phone worth waiting for in next 3-6 months?
cheers...
Doubt it's worth buying a Windows Phone to replace a Lumia until the Apollo ones come along, and no-one really knows what they'll be.
hmm, but I'm not seeing any leak on any website about next windows phone. my regrets in advance for my ignorance
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hmm, but I'm not seeing any leak on any website about next windows phone. my regrets in advance for my ignorance
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It is unlikely you'll be able to buy one in the next 3-6 months.
If you must absolutely get a new model, go for the Lumia 900. It has very similarly except for a slightly larger screen and a front facing camera
There was a Pureview Nokia with Windows Phone 8 leaked on WMpoweruser a few weeks ago.
Yeah, but seems like Windows 8 still 6 months away. I will wait let's see. cheers...
The Nokia PureView Leaked was Symbian - not WP.
900 looks like a great phone, but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole until they issue a fix for the camera - and then it would depend on how the fix is received..
I'm going to chug along with my Lumia 800 for the next year. It's a great phone; the camera is decent most times; spectacular in some cases. And it just works and looks great.
The phone I have set my sights on is the future Nokia PureView WP8. As much as I love the form factor of the Lumia 800, with a PureView camera who cares?
It had to be WP, it had the 3 standard capacitive buttons at the bottom.
i am watching the summit and this is what we will get: WP 7.8
live at http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Windows-Phone/Summit
Gggrrr.....
WP7.8 Will have the WP8 experience and new start screen etc
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WP7.8 Will have the WP8 experience and new start screen etc
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at least they said so .... m looking forward to it !
The only thing i want right now is ability to have IM's working in a background If WP 7.8 (or IM developers) gives me that then i'll be happy even without WP8.
Ofcourse, WP 8 sounds really cool but probably i'll get a new phone for it once they come out. Higher screen resolution, more RAM and dual core CPU definitely won't harm
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at least they said so .... m looking forward to it !
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At least they are going to remove the gap on the right side and file the screen with tiles this time rather than wasting the screen space with nothing
It will feel like a new phone with a bigger screen
this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
crnkoj said:
this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
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What do you mean by saying "backdoored"?
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At least they are going to remove the gap on the right side and file the screen with tiles this time rather than wasting the screen space with nothing
It will feel like a new phone with a bigger screen
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indeed the right side can be used...i like my 800 but it needs an update i was hoping they will release the tango today ... might be flashing the CN again
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What do you mean by saying "backdoored"?
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buy it....top tech...blah blah....and at the end "none of the existing devices will get WP8"
rootkited said:
indeed the right side can be used...i like my 800 but it needs an update i was hoping they will release the tango today ... might be flashing the CN again
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I was hoping the update would arrive today too, supposedly bypassing the carriers this time
No idea when it is arriving, I didn't see anything about a time scale on the WP Summit
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this is such a fail, MS and nokia totally "backdoored" their customers... how im happy i got rid of my lumia 800...
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Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
Fail! Fail!
Its good to hear that Microsoft atleast considered WP 7.8 for the current devices...
And guess what? WP8 supports native code apps. WP 7.8 wouldn't.
That means, no guarranteed future app support. Now, that's bad.
Had higher expectations, and this how Microsoft treats us.
OrionBG said:
Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
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Some features will be coming and I'm pretty certain the tile size will be included for sure. Other features are hardware based and can't be ported.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3...8-upgrade-no-windows-phone-8-existing-devices
That's the fragmentation that every WP user bragged not have and it's worse then android because WP8 applications simple wont work in WP7.8 because of a software problem, not for hardware limitations. It's a mess.
I hope i get VoIP support and all native features that don't require hardware since future apps compatibility isn't going to happen.
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Some features will be coming and I'm pretty certain the tile size will be included for sure. Other features are hardware based and can't be ported.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3...8-upgrade-no-windows-phone-8-existing-devices
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WP8 is great...I work for a software development company and we have it for more than 4 months now running on a i5 tablet from Samsung...
7.5 is not a fail either... and i m pretty sure that 7.8 will do very well ...
cheers !
Well, the home experience is what I'm mostly looking forward to have on my Lumia. We're not getting much more than that, but with the current hardware anything more would have been pointless. This is just an appetizer to me tho, gotta start saving money for this fall, it's hard for me to keep a phone for more than 8 months anyway...
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vnvman said:
Well, the home experience is what I'm mostly looking forward to have on my Lumia. We're not getting much more than that, but with the current hardware anything more would have been pointless. This is just an appetizer to me tho, gotta start saving money for this fall, it's hard for me to keep a phone for more than 8 months anyway...
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i agree since i've been switching phones often than my socks )
anyways, WP is an OS that we will bring us joy...i am pretty sure !
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Nobody have ever told that current WP7 devices will get an upgrade to WP8! I'vе been writing here in the forum for moths that there will be no such upgrade but nobody listens! The new WP8 is based on Windows RT, not on WinCE. The new features won't be ported to WP7. I'll be selling my Lumia 800 too very soon but it is not Microsoft's fault that Nokia released its "new" models so late. And if you think for a sec, when WP8 is released near the end of this year it will be nearly an year after the release of the first Lumia phones! One year is more than enough device life if you ask me! Me personally rarely use a device even a full year!
So don't be pissed at Nokia or Microsoft. Nobody stepped on your throat telling you to buy the dying dinosaur from the shelf!
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Im not pissed, im disappointed, quite frankly anyone else who has a lumia 900/800 right now can have all the right to be pissed, they trusted nokia to have a good phone with good support and they simply didnt deliver, this way you destroy brand recognition and brand value. It all seems to be the plan of mr Elop to make Nokia worthless so that Miscrosoft can buy it.... Its misuse of brand trust.
About you using your device less than a year, one of two things comes to my mind: 1. you obviously have a lot of money 2. you dont spend your money wisely
And please dont take this as a rant or insult, but most people (especially in todays wicked economy) would prefer to have something they dearly paid for, for more than a year.
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Im not pissed, im disappointed, quite frankly anyone else who has a lumia 900/800 right now can have all the right to be pissed, they trusted nokia to have a good phone with good support and they simply didnt deliver, this way you destroy brand recognition and brand value. It all seems to be the plan of mr Elop to make Nokia worthless so that Miscrosoft can buy it.... Its misuse of brand trust.
About you using your device less than a year, one of two things comes to my mind: 1. you obviously have a lot of money 2. you dont spend your money wisely
And please dont take this as a rant or insult, but most people (especially in todays wicked economy) would prefer to have something they dearly paid for, for more than a year.
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nokia was dead for years and they came back to life because of this WP ... with or without WP8 lumia will be usable for at least another year...same thing happened to devices stuck on Android 2.1, or those not able to use for example Siri .... this is another example of how the software market works together with the hardware producers ... you buy a pc today because of a game and tomorrow comes another game with higher requirements ....
Hi Guys
I would like to know from those who have updated to the amber update or the gdr2 to know whether it has improved the softness of the lumia 920 camera photos?
I buy my phones by their camera and had bought the lumia 900 and then the 920 because of that and not very happy with the soft photos of the lumia 920 compared to other phones out there.
Also if the pro camera settings improve the camera or no?
I want to decide whether to get the lumia 1020 or not as If the update solves by problem I might as well stick with the lumia 920.
Not sure about the softness (don't really pay that much attention).
ProCam is not yet available on the Lumia 920 with GDR2. If you want a great camera phone, get the Lumia 1020.
Thanks for the reply, and yeah have been digging around and apparently, only smart cam will be available and not the pro cam which is a bit crap... will see how much the lumia 1020 will cost here in the uk
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Thanks for the reply, and yeah have been digging around and apparently, only smart cam will be available and not the pro cam which is a bit crap... will see how much the lumia 1020 will cost here in the uk
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You can still install the Pro Cam app on a Lumia 920 that has the Amber update. Here's how to do it:
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-l...kia-video-upload-video-trimmer-l920-gdr2.html
The quality of the pictures with Nokia Pro Cam is awesome! Happy owner of 920.
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The quality of the pictures with Nokia Pro Cam is awesome! Happy owner of 920.
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Can you post some samples if possible
My Uk Lumia 920 has still not received the Amber updated and I would rather wait to get it officially as its already been released now.
Also I have noticed that I can download the Procam App and Video Trimmer from the market (obviously it wont work without the amber update) so fingers crossed I will get it before end of the month.
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Can you post some samples if possible
My Uk Lumia 920 has still not received the Amber updated and I would rather wait to get it officially as its already been released now.
Also I have noticed that I can download the Procam App and Video Trimmer from the market (obviously it wont work without the amber update) so fingers crossed I will get it before end of the month.
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I don't have any photos to show but I do have this video which compares the stereo recording from Pro Cam and the mono recording from stock Camera app. youtube
tfn said:
Can you post some samples if possible
My Uk Lumia 920 has still not received the Amber updated and I would rather wait to get it officially as its already been released now.
Also I have noticed that I can download the Procam App and Video Trimmer from the market (obviously it wont work without the amber update) so fingers crossed I will get it before end of the month.
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Sorry but I only have pics of my son:
60% crop of original:
http://sdrv.ms/1eURh6Y
100% crop:
http://sdrv.ms/1bJGWep
100% crop:
http://sdrv.ms/13RU8Mu
Cheers
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Sorry but only I have pics of my son:
60% crop of original:
http://sdrv.ms/1eURh6Y
100% crop:
http://sdrv.ms/1bJGWep
100% crop:
http://sdrv.ms/13RU8Mu
Cheers
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wow some awesome photos and lovely baby.. thanks
Pro cam is available with GDR2 good app...
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There is a definite difference. They are not super sharp though. I think I was expecting too much from the update. I think there are still much better camera phones out there such as the 1020, Xperia Z IMO, and the Optimus G Pro.
I just bought a jused 920 specifically because of this update. I'm on the fence now as to whether or not I should keep it. I was hoping to "get by" until the1020 prices came down a bit. I may wait for that, or I may just pick up a phone with a better camera right now. Maybe the Iphone 5c ?
Hi,I am Planning to buy a Nokia Lumia 920 for my sister.She is upgrading from the Samsung Galaxy S1 I9000 and is inclined towards buying the 920 majorly because of the Camera.I also checked out the Lumia 925 but it is like $100 expensive than the 920 in my country.I have also read that after the Amber Update,The 920's camera outperforms the one on the 925.But I have a major concern before i buy the Lumia 920.I have read that the pictures produced from the camera, turn out to be yellowish and blurry with the Amber Update and also,some have reported the screen flickering issue on the 920.
So would you guys,the ones who use the 920,let me know whether these issues exist on your phone and whether it is wise to get the 920 over the 925?
Thank You
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Hi,I am Planning to buy a Nokia Lumia 920 for my sister.She is upgrading from the Samsung Galaxy S1 I9000 and is inclined towards buying the 920 majorly because of the Camera.I also checked out the Lumia 925 but it is like $100 expensive than the 920 in my country.I have also read that after the Amber Update,The 920's camera outperforms the one on the 925.But I have a major concern before i buy the Lumia 920.I have read that the pictures produced from the camera, turn out to be yellowish and blurry with the Amber Update and also,some have reported the screen flickering issue on the 920.
So would you guys,the ones who use the 920,let me know whether these issues exist on your phone and whether it is wise to get the 920 over the 925?
Thank You
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I personaly wouldn`t upgrade my 920 for a 925 as it offers little more than i have now. Also the 925 only has 16GB of storage instead of 32GB on the 920. So i would go for the 920 as they are basicaly the same imo. The 920 is also sturdier than the 925 and can handle drops better because of the build quality.
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I personaly wouldn`t upgrade my 920 for a 925 as it offers little more than i have now. Also the 925 only gas 16GB of storage instead of 32GB on the 920. So i would go for the 920 as they are basicaly the same imo. The 920 is also sturdier than the 925 and can handle drops better because of the build quality.
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Thank You.And Can you give me some info about the camera and screen flickering issues?
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Thank You.And Can you give me some info about the camera and screen flickering issues?
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The camera is great imo, the Nokia Pro Cam app (free) is available in the App Store and offers a lot of optimisation options for making the camera even better especialy for lowlight conditions. I haven`t had the screen flickering isssues ever myself so far so no problem with that.
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I personaly wouldn`t upgrade my 920 for a 925 as it offers little more than i have now. Also the 925 only has 16GB of storage instead of 32GB on the 920. So i would go for the 920 as they are basicaly the same imo. The 920 is also sturdier than the 925 and can handle drops better because of the build quality.
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gee2012 said:
The camera is great imo, the Nokia Pro Cam app (free) is available in the App Store and offers a lot of optimisation options for making the camera even better especialy for lowlight conditions. I haven`t had the screen flickering isssues ever myself so far so no problem with that.
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Great! But the procam has some issues right?like when you click a picture it looks fine but when you go into the gallery and see it,it is a little yellowish and blurry?
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Great! But the procam has some issues right?like when you click a picture it looks fine but when you go into the gallery and see it,it is a little yellowish and blurry?
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Not realy noticable to me to be honest, my pics look natural and not blurry. Look here fore pics posted by users http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443900.
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Not realy noticable to me to be honest, my pics look natural and not blurry.
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Thanks Mate.I'll mostly Go ahead with the 920.I appreciate your help
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So would you guys,the ones who use the 920,let me know whether these issues exist on your phone and whether it is wise to get the 920 over the 925?
Thank You
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Lumia 920 great device and agree with "gee2012"...
just update L920 to Amber (if not already), install Nokia Pro Cam and other official apps and phone is ready for making great photos
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also check official instructions for new WP users
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
and also recommend these apps:
http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=19d44d9e-f18e-4df1-9bce-36335242ed2e
http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=890485c3-7c32-42e3-b906-61ea62caeaa3
dxdy said:
Lumia 920 great device and agree with "gee2012"...
just update L920 to Amber (if not already), install Nokia Pro Cam and other official apps and phone is ready for making great photos
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also check official instructions for new WP users
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
and also recommend these apps:
http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=19d44d9e-f18e-4df1-9bce-36335242ed2e
http://windowsphone.com/s?appId=890485c3-7c32-42e3-b906-61ea62caeaa3
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Thanks For Your Help.I am actually getting the 920 at a very great price but I'm quite doubtful about choosing WP8 over android.Is it really worth getting it,considering the Lack of apps/games?
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Thanks For Your Help.I am actually getting the 920 at a very great price but I'm quite doubtful about choosing WP8 over android.Is it really worth getting it,considering the Lack of apps/games?
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this not true... WP have good and enough games and apps... only problem (for most of people) is lack of pirated stuff this "lack" is from period before 3 years and since then many apps come to WP OS...
Get the 925. I have both. Only 16GB sucks on the 925 compared to 32GB on the 920. Besides that the screen alone kills the 920.
The 925 has a BLACK SCREEN
The 920 has a GREY SCREEN
You will be shocked how much better the 925 looks. The 920 has wireless charging but it takes twice as long to charge. You can buy a wireless charging cover for the 925 though.
920 is HEAVY!!!!!!!
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The 925 was marketed as alower cost and lower quality hence the reduced weight alternative to the 920. The camera was made better but they cut every other corner. Also the current version of the 920 has a pitch black screen even when on and showing black as a color. Not sure where the previous guy got a grey screen from. Nokia marketed it as a lower cost alternative.
Is this the logical upgrade that it looks?
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Is this the logical upgrade that it looks?
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Not for 750-800 Euro`s retail :silly:
Well the 920 was rather steeply priced when it first appeared.
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Is this the logical upgrade that it looks?
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well, its a different class pretty much.
its better equipped and such (unless you're looking at AT&T, the US carrier carrying the 1520) but then again its larger, which could be either a plus or minus.
Personally, I'd prefer the 920, but if you value big screens, the 1520 could be the way to go. I personally don't expect to see a complete 92x series successor until a significant WP upgrade drops, like 8.1 perhaps.
1520 ticks all the boxes pretty much for me and definetly an upgrade however if it's priced anything over £520 it's not worth it. £500 is fine I would choose this over Note 3, which incidently I also owned.
Love the design build quality camera size...only downside is ofcourse lack of good apps.
If it's too pricey will probably wait for price to fall as I did with nokia lumia 920 which I bought for £165.00.
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Is this the logical upgrade that it looks?
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I wanted the 1020 but wasn't happy as it was just the same body and battery as the lumia 920 so was extremely happy when they announced the lumia 1520
Few reasons why I need it
1) Its got the new Faster Processor and more ram ( future proof)
2) Support for RAW files ( I buy my phones based on their cameras and so this is BIG for me)
Sure the lumia 1020 will support raw as well but those 41mp are just overkill while the 1520's 20mp is more manageble
3) Bigger Battery and Bigger screen so editing etc will be more fun.
I just hope Nokia comes with a built in Raw editor in the future and proper HDR in camera ( I know it dos bracketing shots) but hdr in camera would be benefit or a software to deal with it
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I wanted the 1020 but wasn't happy as it was just the same body and battery as the lumia 920 so was extremely happy when they announced the lumia 1520
Few reasons why I need it
1) Its got the new Faster Processor and more ram ( future proof)
2) Support for RAW files ( I buy my phones based on their cameras and so this is BIG for me)
Sure the lumia 1020 will support raw as well but those 41mp are just overkill while the 1520's 20mp is more manageble
3) Bigger Battery and Bigger screen so editing etc will be more fun.
I just hope Nokia comes with a built in Raw editor in the future and proper HDR in camera ( I know it dos bracketing shots) but hdr in camera would be benefit or a software to deal with it
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So you rather go with 12 GB available storage for your RAW images??
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So you rather go with 12 GB available storage for your RAW images??
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dont forget about being able to add 64gb micro sd
if i were you i would wait for WP 8.1 to appear.. well see, there will be some new devices then - and probably the devices will do a "jump" like we expect WP 8.1 to bring... also i never buy the first device of a new "family" just for the case that there was a problem with the new design...
that saved me back in the days when they changed the iPhone 4 design and had issues, with the antenna
Nope
Not for me. Im buing new Lumia 920 next month.
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Not for me. Im buing new Lumia 920 next month.
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i usin L920 almost 8 month and for now dont see reason to spend lot money for new models... 920 work great
I like big phone and want one
Still very happy with my 920, everything runs as it should and battery life is good. This is the first phone I had for this long, usualy I changed phone every 2-3 months on android.
I loved my 920 and was very happy with it, Now have a 1520 and it is so much of an upgrade, The screen is a beauty and I actually like the new tile layout, The camera is great compared to the 920s of which I wasn't overly impressed,
Performance wise it is flawless whatever I ask of it, Not that windows phone has ever been slow or laggy but this really is so fluid,
Lumia Black is preinstalled and I had the update through the other day via preview for devs to 10521, Little touches like the coloured glance screen clock are very nice amongst everything that comes with GDR3.
It is a very big phone though so will not be to everyone's taste, If you have large hands and pockets then go for it :fingers-crossed:
I wonder if the 1520 will get the WP9 update from MS
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I wonder if the 1520 will get the WP9 update from MS
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possibly not... it's early to discuss about this... ask question when Microsoft release official hardware compatibility list for WP9... also rumors says WP9 will not be compatible with WP8 because MS start build WP9 from scratch
Just bought one brand new for $400.00 and why don't we have forum for the 1520?
It is too big...
Maybe if rumored Lumia 929 becomes real. :]
Well Lumia 1520 screen is too big. I know it is phablet. But not handy if you want use as phone. I upgraded my Lumia 928 to Lumia Icon and 5" screen for one hand is big. But I'm happy with it. But most of things what I like Verizon Lumia models - design.
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I myself have decided to join the Windows phone gang recently. I find 1520 way too big to operate, so I got a 920 instead. Some of my fav wallpapers are not Full HD so I dont have to worry about the pics get stretched.