do you know if the bootloader is unlockable from HTCdev? or did verizon lock it down again?
As long as it isn't encrypted (that's what Moto does) then fastboot should be able to unlock it. The LTE Galaxy Nexus's bootloader was locked and fastboot fixed it in no time.
It'll for sure be encrypted (not technically encrypted, just signed with a asymmetrical key) so that the PBL/SBL can verify it. Both HTC and Moto have been doing this for a while. This allows all the software to be authenticated as original and completely screws any chance of custom software. The thing with HTC phones, is that the radio reads a variable from the memory (s-on or s-off) that tells it whether to verify the software or not. S-off relies on being able to find an exploit that allows us to change this variable. Moto phones don't have such a variable, so there isn't, at this time, any way to get around this short of stealing an unlockable bootloader from Moto (as some users did). HTCDev allows us to unlock the bootloader, but still doesn't give us full access, and voids your warranty. Hopefully, someone will uncover another exploit (just as with revolutionary) that will allow full s-off. Unfortunately, htcdev actually hampers this effort because it reduces the need for s-off, which removes most of the incentive to try to find an exploit.
Unlock via the site works. At least right now.
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Unlock via the site works. At least right now.
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Weird, I don't see it listed. Is it under "All other supported devices"?
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Weird, I don't see it listed. Is it under "All other supported devices"?
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Most new phones don't get listed. You just select the "Other" option.
I have already unlocked mine. It works.
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I just tried and htcdev under others worked.
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Most new phones don't get listed. You just select the "Other" option.
I have already unlocked mine. It works.
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Do we know why some people are getting s-off, and others are left with s-on? Any rhyme or reason to it, or is it just random?
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Do we know why some people are getting s-off, and others are left with s-on? Any rhyme or reason to it, or is it just random?
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I believe we got s-off phones from HTC because they were tested devices with Verizon Wireless before we received them.
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Just seen jcase post that the rezound is on the unlock bootloader list on htcdev.com and he don't know if its a accident or what so you need to jump on it asap Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Though Unlisted, HTC Rezound Unlockable via HTCDev Tools http://bit.ly/tm4HPD (Phandroid article)
Sent from a Rezound, crappy camera included.
Just did mine.
What is this? Exactly.. can someone elaborate ? Is that unlocked bootloader thing for real?
You guys need to tell everyone if they use the HTC unlock then HTC has their phone info any can deny warranty repairs to their phones.
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siiiiiiiick.
let's get some s-offy goodness!
woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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We individually unlock it. It's super easy. The instructions gives you screen shots of what to do. I just unlocked mine. Took about 5-10 minutes. I'm sure it will be available tomorrow but I didn't waste any time.
Tough to tell whether HTC did this on purpose or not. They very well might pull it later after they realize it/Verizon *****es them out.
I would at least go get the unlock token now, even if you don't want to use it right now.
Jason
I'll just wait for the devs to set it up where I don't have to give my phone info to vzw and htc. Might need my warranty some day.
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Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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JasonJoel said:
Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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http://www.htcdev.com/
Click on Unlock Bootloader. Follow directions. If you don't want to install the token, stop at the point that it emails you the token.
Jason
alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This is what I would love to know
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jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Actually I installed Amon_ra recovery a bit ago, and did a full NAND backup.
bokechukwu1 said:
So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Yes perm root is as easy as flashing a recovery then using the recovery to flash the su and busybox binary. Then install superuser from the market and bam permanent root. (or just wait till someone makes a flashable package that will do all that for you.)
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These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
this is very hardware specific and an epic hw design fail by htc.... :-(
anyway - who will short his phone first? ;-D
Definitely looks pretty sketchy. Lol.
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These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
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I've owned mostly HTC phones. That's a company that listens to it's customer's. Period.
If you have an HTC Phone, you've got custom Kernels period. The development community is second to none.
That's why i so surprised to come here with my Razr to find out theres..not much.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
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Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
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Exactly...S-Off allows one to fall back to an older radio and flash only the radio if, for instance, HTC or the carrier pushes a new OTA that has a new radio and makes your phone get a worse signal than before. W/out S-Off you can't just flash back so easily.
ETA: Re-reading my comment makes it seem as that's only S-Off can do but like quoted above it also allows you to flash stuff not officially signed by HTC. Prior to S-Off it was virtually impossible to brick a Rezound. W/ S-Off, you can easily brick a phone permanently.
amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
romdroid. said:
amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
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Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
romdroid. said:
Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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Haha alright that always happen, when you get rid of something then developers start support it. I can feel you
Is rooting completely out now, even thought the boot loader is locked? Specifically, on other phones I've seen instances where a phone could be rooted even without being unlocked. Is that possible on the DNA now, after the update?
Thanks!
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
munchy_cool said:
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
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is it possible to put a huge red banner right where the advertisements are in this forum that reads "NO ROOT FOR 2.04" lol
Lol
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That's not a bad idea... No where does it make it real clear if its just unlocking the BL or rooting too. Especially since a lot locked BL phones can be. A lot of people don't give a crap about unlocking only rooting.
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Lol I understand. Really unless someone leaks an unlocked bootloader I don't see it happening quickly. With that said how impossible will kexec be lol. We got an unlocked bootloader on the gs3 thanks to a leak. The s3 had quite a few devs working on the bootloader when lucked up on the leak. It's just more realistic to use kexec for a software solution. JTAG sounds great but I don't see it being super popular.
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Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
Phaded said:
Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
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It worked on the gs3 with locked bootloader. It wasn't temp. I believe it is possible. Basically you boot into a second unsecure system after booting into the stock secure system.
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Somewhere on the forums beaups states why it won't work. Too lazy to search...
Hey guys,
My One Max will be here wednesday. Found a good deal on Swappa and decided I miss Sense too much to remain loyal to Samsung.
I do have a couple questions. With all convoluted postings I can not find any basic details I need.
1. Is this unlockable via HTC Dev?
2. Whats the skinny on preferred method of unlocking?
I dont care so much about S-OFF unless its one of those type that prevent custom kernels from flashing. Then I will go S-OFF.
What do you guys have for best practices on getting this unlocked?
I am pretty damned amped up to get this big bastard!
Saaaaaaweeet.
I found that the rumrunner* s-off was the easiest way to root and unlock the Verizon version. Did not require anything from htcdev.com.
http://rumrunner.us/
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Hellz yeah!
Soff and rooted my 2 Verizon Max with rumrunner. Other versions had issues with rumrunner so had to use firewater.
Ie no unlocking bootloader through htcdev for verizon version. Have to soff, unlock and root with rumrunner/firewater. Can s-on after that if you really want.
scrosler said:
Hey guys,
My One Max will be here wednesday. Found a good deal on Swappa and decided I miss Sense too much to remain loyal to Samsung.
I do have a couple questions. With all convoluted postings I can not find any basic details I need.
1. Is this unlockable via HTC Dev?
2. Whats the skinny on preferred method of unlocking?
I dont care so much about S-OFF unless its one of those type that prevent custom kernels from flashing. Then I will go S-OFF.
What do you guys have for best practices on getting this unlocked?
I am pretty damned amped up to get this big bastard!
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Oh hell yeah it's Clean ROM time! I have the Sprint version & I unlocked mines via HTC Dev & then S-off using rumrunner. You'll love the Max Scott guaranteed, & Samsung can kick rocks with their enforcing of Knox on all of their users.
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It's cool to see a lot of the rezound guys coming to this device, welcome
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berdo said:
Saaaaaaweeet.
I found that the rumrunner* s-off was the easiest way to root and unlock the Verizon version. Did not require anything from htcdev.com.
http://rumrunner.us/
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Jiggity Janx said:
Hellz yeah!
Soff and rooted my 2 Verizon Max with rumrunner. Other versions had issues with rumrunner so had to use firewater.
Ie no unlocking bootloader through htcdev for verizon version. Have to soff, unlock and root with rumrunner/firewater. Can s-on after that if you really want.
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Oh hell yeah it's Clean ROM time! I have the Sprint version & I unlocked mines via HTC Dev & then S-off using rumrunner. You'll love the Max Scott guaranteed, & Samsung can kick rocks with their enforcing of Knox on all of their users.
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So let me get this straight then..
Rum runner is best to get S-Off.
You dont need to be unlocked for rumrunner?
Once S-Off the normal rules apply? Can unlock bootloader and relock it using super CID like all other HTC phones?
And thanks guys!
scrosler said:
So let me get this straight then..
Rum runner is best to get S-Off.
You dont need to be unlocked for rumrunner?
Once S-Off the normal rules apply? Can unlock bootloader and relock it using super CID like all other HTC phones?
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If you're on Verizon of course HTC Dev won't work so just run rumrunner & it'll do everything for you.
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scrosler said:
So let me get this straight then..
Rum runner is best to get S-Off.
You dont need to be unlocked for rumrunner?
Once S-Off the normal rules apply? Can unlock bootloader and relock it using super CID like all other HTC phones?
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You dont need to be unlocked for rumrunner with the verizon version. All other versions you are supposed to unlock with htcdev before soff. Rumrunner soff, unlocks bootloader and roots verizon version.
You can supercid once soff if you want. As you know supercid is to flash ruus from other versions onto your version (mainly for international gsm versions). You likely wont want to flash other versions on a verizon Max.
Sprint or Verison Scros...
Ahhhh... Max Venom injection! Much better now...
Sir, if you are getting the sprint model then
You need to unlock it using htc dev and then run rumrunner .
If you are getting a verizon model ,
Then just run the rumrunner it will take care of everything
Verizon
One last question before I close this thread...
Is rumrunner restricted to any specific hboot version?
And thanks for the info guys. Makes it a lot quicker. I dont like rootiung and unlocking any more than the next guy. I just love makin' the ROMS!
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One last question before I close this thread...
Is rumrunner restricted to any specific hboot version?
And thanks for the info guys. Makes it a lot quicker. I dont like rootiung and unlocking any more than the next guy. I just love makin' the ROMS!
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For Verizon, rumrunner seems to be the only option that works irrespective of the hboot (hope my memory is right)
and WELCOME!!!
I'm on Verizon and used rumrunner with no problem at all just remember that you will not be able to use the finger print scanner after you finish, runrunner unlocks you bootloader as well as soff
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I'm on Verizon and used rumrunner with no problem at all just remember that you will not be able to use the finger print scanner after you finish, runrunner unlocks you bootloader as well as soff
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Right but I was also reading that you could restore the functionality of the fingerprint scanner. Is that not correct?
Here is the thread I am referring to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540004
Yes you only need to relock and change the flag and everything works just fine. Hope you enjoy the phone I'm very impressed with it myself
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Awesome!
I got all the info I needed...
Stay tuned for CleanROM!
Thanks guys!
-Scott
Does anyone know if the root tool weaksauce and firewater work on at&t m8 to get s-off ?
The root tool weaksauce shows it works on the verizon m8 version then your supposed to be able to get s-off with firewater.
Does anyone know ? I have the m8 at&t version and I would like to get s-off.
no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
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no it does not. they do not have the correct hboot files yet
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So the weaksauce wont work with the at&t m8, but firewater will still work if you unlock the bootloader with htc dev first right ?
You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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You do know that S-Off really isn't important.. You can still flash roms and get access to root and do all the other crazy things
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It may not be to you but it is to a lot of the rest of us.
I like the freedom of not ever needing a computer which you never do with s-off.
Your not the first person to try to say that as it seems people like to say that when they dont understand what s-off means. If s-off was not really that big of deal then ask yourself why do the devs put in all the time and effort to crack it and get s-off if its as you claim not necessary ???? Why dont you ask the devs that question, maybe they can explain it to you so you can understand and comprehend it.
I have had s-off on every htc smartphone I have had since the first evo 4g and I have had a lot of them. s-on may be good enough for you and all you want, but not everyone is as content being s-on as you.
Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
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Uh this isn't the HTC One X days. You dont need a computer to flash roms or any other tweaks.
For as the devs.. I never said S-Off was useless I said it's not important as getting root and flashing roms which is probly the main priority to get access to first rather than S-Off.
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Yeah if you always want to flash roms with stock kernels, most of us dont like the stock kernels so yes you would need a computer. Access was gained before the phones were even released, but if your content with s-on that is your prerogative to settle for that, as is ours to want s-off and not settle.
For the life of me I have no clue why people content with s-on always seem to question people that want s-off. This post has nothing to do with deciding is s-off is not needed by anyone, its to talk about gaining s-off.
If your happy with s-on then please go post on forums where others are happy being s-on...
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Firewater just got support...
https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452269087083614208
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Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
I wish there was a one click root app for at&t, I'd use the toolkit but I have a mac
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Isnt that only on the verizon version m8 though ? Not sure everything I have found on searches just shows the verizon version m8. If it works on the at&t version m8 now that would be what I"am wanting. Also I was told weaksauce only works on the verizon version also. Which weaksauce is supposed to let you switch back to stock very easily I think as easy as uninstalling the app. Now that is just pure genius.
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yest it works on all M8 variants.
nugzo said:
yest it works on all M8 variants.
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Great, I see the s-off post is now added to the at&t m8 general section, thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just remember, if you arent to confident in messing with firmwares etc. dont mess with s-off.. It can really screw up your device. If you know what you are doing, and what it does, then go for it!
Confirmed, Firewater works for att.
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Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
nick1313 said:
Weaksauce didn't work for me, gave me a root failure error. I don't want to HTC Dev Unlock.
Those of you that have s-offed did you htc dev unlock first?
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I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
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I used HTC Dev to unlock, used temporary boot image for recovery to nandroid + flash SuperUser, Then followed the protocol for firewater to gain S-OFF...running stock AT&T image now with root permissions. No 'Tampered' logo on my hboot
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Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
nick1313 said:
Yea...I don't want to use HTC Dev Unlock. Just curious if anyone else was able to get it working without htc dev unlock.
Thanks though.
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Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
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Do you just not want your device to be logged or something?
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I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
nick1313 said:
I got burned on the M7 with that and the camera issue. Even though the camera issue was a known F up on HTC's part, they tried to charge me 200 bucks to fix it because I was unlocked. Only way they knew I was unlocked was because of HTC Dev, because the device was sent to them completely stock. I ruu'd back to stock before sending it to them.
This is my work phone, so I don't pay for it, therefore I'd like to be able to hide the fact that I've knowingly "voided" the warranty.
PS. I complained enough and got up high enough the food chain that they offered to fix my phone, however by then my digitizer died and the M8 came out.
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Ah thanks for the heads up! Guess I'm hosed if something goes wrong!