Is rooting completely out now, even thought the boot loader is locked? Specifically, on other phones I've seen instances where a phone could be rooted even without being unlocked. Is that possible on the DNA now, after the update?
Thanks!
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
munchy_cool said:
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
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is it possible to put a huge red banner right where the advertisements are in this forum that reads "NO ROOT FOR 2.04" lol
Lol
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That's not a bad idea... No where does it make it real clear if its just unlocking the BL or rooting too. Especially since a lot locked BL phones can be. A lot of people don't give a crap about unlocking only rooting.
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Lol I understand. Really unless someone leaks an unlocked bootloader I don't see it happening quickly. With that said how impossible will kexec be lol. We got an unlocked bootloader on the gs3 thanks to a leak. The s3 had quite a few devs working on the bootloader when lucked up on the leak. It's just more realistic to use kexec for a software solution. JTAG sounds great but I don't see it being super popular.
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Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
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Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
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It worked on the gs3 with locked bootloader. It wasn't temp. I believe it is possible. Basically you boot into a second unsecure system after booting into the stock secure system.
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Somewhere on the forums beaups states why it won't work. Too lazy to search...
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Why were they able to root and unlock the boot loader and everything else on the thunderbolt so quickly but yet no one can do it on the atrix?
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Sorry, I don't know.
Because it's not locked or signed?
There's seems to be some discussion regarding it being locked or not. Engadget wrote an article about it being locked but there are a lot of comments from readers with evidence to the contrary.
With it being broken so fast, I believe it wasn't locked or signed.
Um. The phone is not unlocked. In fact the devs were in for a surprise to see the phone has signed bootloader. Signed karnel. Everything is sihned. Which is a furst for htc phone . The only thing they managed to do is root it. And they already did with the atrix. Once you have a signed bootloader and karnel. There is not much you can do.
The article was posted new today or yesterday at engadget. And nothing happened since then.
Its safe to assume all companies right now will use a locked bootloader and karnel. They dont want you to keep your phone. They want you to update.
So basically unless an employee leaks the codes we are s o l.that really sux.
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Android police is reporting that the Bootloader has been unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I might just go back to my captivate in the next week. I really like this phone but I don't feel like much progress is being made. I know there are a few busting ass trying to crack this thing but that doesn't necessaraly mean theyre making progress. Although they did get a copy of that unlocked/deencrypted phone from ken so maybe we'll see something soon.
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most android hackers are on verizon, because they went in with android first. the least amount of android hackers are on at&t. also, they had better resources, they were leaked a beta bootloader that was unlocked, and also a previous ruu image (like sbf but for htc)
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Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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I don't know the true reason, but historically, HTC phones are more "open" and "hackable" than Motorola phones (excluding the original Droid). It's just a different company policy more than likely. Is this policy different with the Thunderbolt? I'm not sure...
there is a definitive difference between 'Locked' and 'Encrypted'
Just seen jcase post that the rezound is on the unlock bootloader list on htcdev.com and he don't know if its a accident or what so you need to jump on it asap Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Though Unlisted, HTC Rezound Unlockable via HTCDev Tools http://bit.ly/tm4HPD (Phandroid article)
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Just did mine.
What is this? Exactly.. can someone elaborate ? Is that unlocked bootloader thing for real?
You guys need to tell everyone if they use the HTC unlock then HTC has their phone info any can deny warranty repairs to their phones.
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siiiiiiiick.
let's get some s-offy goodness!
woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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We individually unlock it. It's super easy. The instructions gives you screen shots of what to do. I just unlocked mine. Took about 5-10 minutes. I'm sure it will be available tomorrow but I didn't waste any time.
Tough to tell whether HTC did this on purpose or not. They very well might pull it later after they realize it/Verizon *****es them out.
I would at least go get the unlock token now, even if you don't want to use it right now.
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I'll just wait for the devs to set it up where I don't have to give my phone info to vzw and htc. Might need my warranty some day.
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Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
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I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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JasonJoel said:
Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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http://www.htcdev.com/
Click on Unlock Bootloader. Follow directions. If you don't want to install the token, stop at the point that it emails you the token.
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Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This is what I would love to know
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jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Well...........
jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Actually I installed Amon_ra recovery a bit ago, and did a full NAND backup.
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So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Yes perm root is as easy as flashing a recovery then using the recovery to flash the su and busybox binary. Then install superuser from the market and bam permanent root. (or just wait till someone makes a flashable package that will do all that for you.)
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These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
this is very hardware specific and an epic hw design fail by htc.... :-(
anyway - who will short his phone first? ;-D
Definitely looks pretty sketchy. Lol.
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These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
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I've owned mostly HTC phones. That's a company that listens to it's customer's. Period.
If you have an HTC Phone, you've got custom Kernels period. The development community is second to none.
That's why i so surprised to come here with my Razr to find out theres..not much.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
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Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
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Exactly...S-Off allows one to fall back to an older radio and flash only the radio if, for instance, HTC or the carrier pushes a new OTA that has a new radio and makes your phone get a worse signal than before. W/out S-Off you can't just flash back so easily.
ETA: Re-reading my comment makes it seem as that's only S-Off can do but like quoted above it also allows you to flash stuff not officially signed by HTC. Prior to S-Off it was virtually impossible to brick a Rezound. W/ S-Off, you can easily brick a phone permanently.
amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
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amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
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Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
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Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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Haha alright that always happen, when you get rid of something then developers start support it. I can feel you
Okay so ive been reading since 3am trying to find if it is now possible to unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 on my photon. I have rooted it fine but I would like to go to ICS. any help is appreciated guys!
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Okay so ive been reading since 3am trying to find if it is now possible to unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 on my photon. I have rooted it fine but I would like to go to ICS. any help is appreciated guys!
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im in the same boat as you buddy there isnt so im just gonna try and sell my photon for like $80 lol hate this thing i wanted to use at&t but nooooo the stupid bootloader is locked sorry bout that
I'll give you $80. Plus s&h.
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I'll give you $80. Plus s&h.
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i might lol the $80 offer was just kinda in the moment but i might well see you think you could do like $130? shipped
If there was a way to do it, we all knew it by now.
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Omar04 said:
If there was a way to do it, we all knew it by now.
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use jtag protocal to overwrite bootloader and nv memory of the phone
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use jtag protocal to overwrite bootloader and nv memory of the phone
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can you give us the procedure??
Have you been able to unlock bootloader for 2.3.5 (upgraded from 2.3.4)?
If not, Is there any other way to do it?
Please help.
Think I read of jtag over USB
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Hey friends .... as earlier bootloader had been unlocked i.e. on 2.3.4....
That means this can also be unlocked...
Can we one thing, we can contact earlier developer who had unlocked it... n start unlocking this bootloader...
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Cooldevil1989 said:
Hey friends .... as earlier bootloader had been unlocked i.e. on 2.3.4....
That means this can also be unlocked...
Can we one thing, we can contact earlier developer who had unlocked it... n start unlocking this bootloader...
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It was a leak, we need a new leak from Motorola, this was not a hack at all so we can't just reuse something.
First of all, THANK YOU everyone for taking some time to answer every question. I really appreciate it. I have been reading, and reading for hours...my eyes are starting to bleed.
So... there is NO WAY we can get a better Android than the 2.3.5?
My build number says 4.5.1A_SUN_USC_19.0, that means I cannot unlock the bootloader, isn't it?
Is there another way (hack?) to improve the performance of the cellphone? I have root it, just to change some files I couldn't, e.g. the sound of the camera.
And finally... is it THAT bad being stucked on 2.3.5?
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First of all, THANK YOU everyone for taking some time to answer every question. I really appreciate it. I have been reading, and reading for hours...my eyes are starting to bleed.
So... there is NO WAY we can get a better Android than the 2.3.5?
My build number says 4.5.1A_SUN_USC_19.0, that means I cannot unlock the bootloader, isn't it?
Is there another way (hack?) to improve the performance of the cellphone? I have root it, just to change some files I couldn't, e.g. the sound of the camera.
And finally... is it THAT bad being stucked on 2.3.5?
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Some people are trying to use kexec, which is a way to bypass the bootloader and install a rom. it will take some time though. I'm not stuck on 2.3.5 so i cant comment on that.
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And finally... is it THAT bad being stucked on 2.3.5?
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Yes it is.......heh
My old foton crapped the bed, it was running The Bills(forgove me if name id wrong) JB and loved it, now all I can do is root, maybe a little more, I want more freedom.....
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lost my unlocked mofo,and now i must admit enjoying 4G on my 2.3.5 insurance replacement
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Screwed by Google. Canceled ICS upgrade on my Moto Photon. No Wow for us.
kdog350 said:
Some people are trying to use kexec, which is a way to bypass the bootloader and install a rom. it will take some time though. I'm not stuck on 2.3.5 so i cant comment on that.
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Thank you, I'll search about "kexec".
The reason I was asking if I was stuck on 2.3.5 was regarding to my build number. I don't know how to conclude it's an ota or not.
You can attempt the Pudding Bootloader unlock, it is unlikely to succeed, but it may be possible. You do risk bricking the device though.
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You can attempt the Pudding Bootloader unlock, it is unlikely to succeed, but it may be possible. You do risk bricking the device though.
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No, thanks .
I assume there is no possible way to tack it back to 2.3.4?
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No, thanks .
I assume there is no possible way to tack it back to 2.3.4?
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There are a few working on a way to install roms without unlocking the boot loader go check out the development section
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Unlocked bootloader
Well, it appears that I am still the only Photon owner around with 2.3.5 and an unlocked bootloader. Unfortunately mine was some sort of freak accident that it happened. I can run run custom recovery and flash all day long. Unfortunately if I install a ROM with any other version (or maybe it's the kernal) it will not work. It will boot up fine but nothing will connect at all. I've tried almost all of them........
do you know if the bootloader is unlockable from HTCdev? or did verizon lock it down again?
As long as it isn't encrypted (that's what Moto does) then fastboot should be able to unlock it. The LTE Galaxy Nexus's bootloader was locked and fastboot fixed it in no time.
It'll for sure be encrypted (not technically encrypted, just signed with a asymmetrical key) so that the PBL/SBL can verify it. Both HTC and Moto have been doing this for a while. This allows all the software to be authenticated as original and completely screws any chance of custom software. The thing with HTC phones, is that the radio reads a variable from the memory (s-on or s-off) that tells it whether to verify the software or not. S-off relies on being able to find an exploit that allows us to change this variable. Moto phones don't have such a variable, so there isn't, at this time, any way to get around this short of stealing an unlockable bootloader from Moto (as some users did). HTCDev allows us to unlock the bootloader, but still doesn't give us full access, and voids your warranty. Hopefully, someone will uncover another exploit (just as with revolutionary) that will allow full s-off. Unfortunately, htcdev actually hampers this effort because it reduces the need for s-off, which removes most of the incentive to try to find an exploit.
Unlock via the site works. At least right now.
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Unlock via the site works. At least right now.
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Weird, I don't see it listed. Is it under "All other supported devices"?
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Weird, I don't see it listed. Is it under "All other supported devices"?
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Most new phones don't get listed. You just select the "Other" option.
I have already unlocked mine. It works.
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I just tried and htcdev under others worked.
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Most new phones don't get listed. You just select the "Other" option.
I have already unlocked mine. It works.
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Do we know why some people are getting s-off, and others are left with s-on? Any rhyme or reason to it, or is it just random?
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Do we know why some people are getting s-off, and others are left with s-on? Any rhyme or reason to it, or is it just random?
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I believe we got s-off phones from HTC because they were tested devices with Verizon Wireless before we received them.
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