Now that we have root I'm sure ROMS will start being developed, but in the mean time does anyone have a list of apps that are safe to remove from the stock ROM? I'd like to do a little de-bloating while we wait for more ROM choices.
Also, I loaded up "Root Browser Lite" so I can browse to /system/app and delete the apk files there - is this the best way to get rid of the apps that don't allow themselves to be un-installed?
root uninstaller will let you freeze system apps or uninstall them if you wish to do so
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.free&hl=en
as for a list, I don't have one sorry, I just froze all the ones I knew for sure wouldnt mess with anything
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Now that we have root I'm sure ROMS will start being developed, but in the mean time does anyone have a list of apps that are safe to remove from the stock ROM? I'd like to do a little de-bloating while we wait for more ROM choices.
Also, I loaded up "Root Browser Lite" so I can browse to /system/app and delete the apk files there - is this the best way to get rid of the apps that don't allow themselves to be un-installed?
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First off, you're in the wrong forum to ask a question. Secondly, two posts down from yours is the script for removing bloatware, which includes a text file which contains the list of files that can be safely removed. Please put a little more effort into looking for your answer before asking it next time, and make sure you ask it in the Questions subforum. Thank you.
To answer your other question, I personally use Root Explorer (paid app) to remove stock apps and do anything involving files on my phone. I create a folder, '/data/app.disabled/', and put the apps from '/data/app/' that I don't want in there, in case I want/need them again or the phone breaks without them.
Also, if you're worried you'll break your phone by deleting or moving them, you can freeze just about all the stock apps in Settings -> Apps, or use Titanium Backup to freeze them.
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Secondly, two posts down from yours is the script for removing bloatware, which includes a text file which contains the list of files that can be safely removed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992596
bberryhill0 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992596
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Yes, I did find that and read it. I was hoping for an even more extensive list, but I'll experiment myself.
Actually, I discovered (via Google) that in ICS you can go to the "All" tab in Manage Apps and have the option to disable almost all of them. This seems to not only keep them from running but also takes them out of the Apps drawer - and it works without root. Surprised Verizon hasn't found and fixed that
And sorry for the breach of etiquette in the original post - I considered it to be a "Development" topic (in the form of a question?) and wasn't sure if the Development crowd watched the General Q&A forum.
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Actually, I discovered (via Google) that in ICS you can go to the "All" tab in Manage Apps and have the option to disable almost all of them. This seems to not only keep them from running but also takes them out of the Apps drawer - and it works without root.
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Also, if you're worried you'll break your phone by deleting or moving them, you can freeze just about all the stock apps in Settings -> Apps, or use Titanium Backup to freeze them.
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You didn't need to go to Google, because I included that in my original reply, which takes you to the same place. Also, it's the first trick in my 'Tips and Tricks' thread, which is linked in my signature.
And around here, most of the development crowd currently does look at all the forums. It's not a large community yet, so there's not usually a lot new to sift through in the course of a day.
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You didn't need to go to Google, because I included that in my original reply, which takes you to the same place. Also, it's the first trick in my 'Tips and Tricks' thread, which is linked in my signature.
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Sorry, no offense intended. I did the googling before reading you're reply. But at least you got the opportunity to advertise your 'Tips and Tricks' thread.
I'll try to avoid posting anymore today since that seems to make you grumpy...
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Sorry, no offense intended. I did the googling before reading you're reply. But at least you got the opportunity to advertise your 'Tips and Tricks' thread.
I'll try to avoid posting anymore today since that seems to make you grumpy...
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lol. I'm not grumpy, nor am I trying to advertise my thread. Every post I make advertises my thread. I didn't mean to come off as abrasive, just trying to point out the post could have been made in a better place. Don't be afraid to ask something, I'm not trying to scare you off. lol.
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Also, it's the first trick in my 'Tips and Tricks' thread, which is linked in my signature.
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My phone is rooted and i would like to know which apps are safe to uninstall that are slowing down my phone so I can speed it up. ? I have root explore and would like a guide on how to uninstall these apps that are slowing my phone down. Thanks to anyone willing to help.
The answer is in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254140
lordmorphous said:
The answer is in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254140
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Thank u uncle fester but there's no answers to my question in that link.
Please see this thread. I wouldn't remove the Package checker apps as noted in this thread. ( PackageChecker.apk [com.oem.packagechecker]
PackageUpdate.apk [com.oem.packageupdate])
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245381
Try looking here
At the bottom of the OP is a link entitled List of Apps Safe to Remove From Stock ROM. Its there...look again.
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lordmorphous said:
At the bottom of the OP is a link entitled List of Apps Safe to Remove From Stock ROM. Its there...look again.
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Morpheus you should already know he's partially illiterate, were he not, then he would have been able to find the answer and not be spoon fed from his high chair
Chirunavvutho said:
I wouldn't remove the Package checker apps...
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Why?
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Why?
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Because, I don't think removing them did any good. Does anyone know what is their exact purpose?
Again, why?
Ok...let me rephrase. Why don't you think removing them did any good?
The apps are listed in the "safe to remove" section of the post as they do not affect the operation of the ROM. If Manii believed those apps shouldn't have been removed, he wouldn't have put them in that list. Regardless of that, if you're going to make a blanket statement that you don't believe those apps should be removed, be expected to provide a better explanation than "because" when someone asks you "why".
Manii likely would know what they are for. Ask him.
They're mainly for ota updating to my knowledge, as custom roms cant ota update they functionally dont do anything.
I've had them uninstalled for a while and i dont believe anything changed.
The only thing that shouldnt be removed that isnt a core android app is dell settings and internet provider.
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They're mainly for ota updating to my knowledge, as custom roms cant ota update they functionally dont do anything.
I've had them uninstalled for a while and i dont believe anything changed.
The only thing that shouldnt be removed that isnt a core android app is dell settings and internet provider.
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Why Dell Settings? I have blindly been removing it from every rom I install.
I cant recall why exactly, i know stageui partially depends on it and something else does in android core.
dell settings and internet providor are the only things in com.dell and not com.oem for a reason
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Again, why?
Ok...let me rephrase. Why don't you think removing them did any good?
The apps are listed in the "safe to remove" section of the post as they do not affect the operation of the ROM. If Manii believed those apps shouldn't have been removed, he wouldn't have put them in that list. Regardless of that, if you're going to make a blanket statement that you don't believe those apps should be removed, be expected to provide a better explanation than "because" when someone asks you "why".
Manii likely would know what they are for. Ask him.
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Please check the revised list. They are in the possibly not safe to remove zone now.
Manii provided his justification in favor of removing those two apps. I'm waiting for your justification in favor of NOT removing those two apps.
In simpler language, you still have yet to answer my question. Manii placing those apps into a gray area "Possibly Not Safe To Remove" does not render the question invalid.
Most of the list is self-explanitory just by the names:
It falls under:
Stuff you can download outright on market
Non-system apps that are not available on market
StageUI
engineering mode apps
logging apps
the 4 borderline cases
those are:
Calibrator.apk [com.oem.calibrator]
DisplayVersionInfo.apk [com.oem.mode]
PackageChecker.apk [com.oem.packagechecker]
PackageUpdate.apk [com.oem.packageupdate]
Last two are pretty obvious, they're used to ota update, removing it breaks it. Custom roms cant ota update to begin with so it's ok for them. If you're on a stock rom it depends on weither or not you consider being able to ota update important. (updating from recovery mode is something entirely different)
I really dont know what calibrator and displayversioninfo do (besides what their name obviously is), but they're not com.oem.engineeringmode.* so they could be important. But as many roms without them seem to run properly they might not be critical.
I left all 4 in since they dont really take up that much resources (rom wise and ram/cpu wise).
The last com.oem.* app that isnt com.oem.engineeringmode.* is
PreLoadNetworkSettings.apk [com.oem.prenetworksetting]
which is used to load new APNs when switching carriers/sims. If your apn is already properly loaded you COULD remove it, but if you need to auto-load new APNs for whatever reason removing that will break that function
Those 5 apks are every com.oem.* that isnt the mentioned com.oem.engineeringmode.*
Technically you can remove the majority of the apks and the system will still boot, just that every other apk has a defined function and removing it will break that functionality.
ALSO, the list is not and never will be perfect, unless someone on the rom team wants to come forward and document them clearly it's all though trial and error. The borderline cases are the only ones that need any real testing as I know for a fact that the majority of the com.oem.engineeringmode.* apks are never active as dell disabled eng mode in retail roms. You CAN manually activate functionality in them but they're more or less dorment code in the roms.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Manii provided his justification in favor of removing those two apps. I'm waiting for your justification in favor of NOT removing those two apps.
In simpler language, you still have yet to answer my question. Manii placing those apps into a gray area "Possibly Not Safe To Remove" does not render the question invalid.
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I just wouldn't remove them and wouldn't recommend someone to do it if I wasn't comfortable to do so in the first place.
Whatever floats your boat..
What would float my boat is for you to answer my question. There must be a reason behind you saying what you did or else you would not have said it at all.
What is that reason, or do you even have one?
Freeze
If you are worried about it, just use an app freezer, run it a few days with the apps you want off the phone frozen. Then if no ill effects, remove them.
That's what I did.
I was a bit more daring. I simply deleted them and called it a day. I figure that if I truly had an issue I could just run my backup. At worst, reinstall 360.
Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
juanitomigraña said:
Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
juanitomigraña said:
Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
juanitomigraña said:
Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
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Not the point. Ethics.
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
Ohh, great. I unknow this. Thanks.
dsixda said:
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
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Yes, you can get updates. But that doesn't count toward the total download count.
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Once rooted...what pre installed apps are safe to delete??
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Just do a search and use the key words "apps safe to remove" and you will find a google spreadsheet, generated form the SGS II, it will show you exactly what can and should not be removed.
In your search you will also find a few other apps that people have removed and listed.
Additional items
There are additional items that can be removed as well, depending on which leak / release you are using. In my instance I removed the following files, found here.. http://typewith.me/p/I717ICS
brandon440 said:
Once rooted...what pre installed apps are safe to delete??
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Galaxy Note Running ICS 4.0.4
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There are additional items that can be removed as well, depending on which leak / release you are using. In my instance I removed the following files, found here.. http://typewith.me/p/I717ICS
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So your saying all those apps listed are safe to remove?
Yes they should be safe to remove. Make sure you use Titanium Backup or similar to back up the app first just in case you get a force close issue.
yes all those apps can be removed in the link I posted, I deleted them myself, on the rom I am using. Depending on what your running you may or may not have those files, but you will have some of them regardless.
Some understanding of what each file does though , look at the bottom... Example
If you delete [Exchange Services] and you need exchange with your email, that obviously wont work since you deleted it. Same with VPN, if you need to create Virtual Private Network connections with your phone, and you delete it, you can't create them.., etc.
I found another post from early this month, i forgot about making it completely. Slix71 and I both dislike bloat (I didn't realize that Slix also commented on my post from the 9th. Man was I sick that day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25882692#post25882692
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So your saying all those apps listed are safe to remove?
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TiBU will allow you to freeze (make them unavailable to the Note) apps. I recommend freezing, seeing if everything you use still works, and then deleting if you need the space.
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look
Those are the apps that are safe to remove.. Hope it helps!
Hello,
I was told this is the place to come for everything related Galaxy S III from several people. Please excuse me if this is the wrong place or section.
I'm completely new to the Galaxy 3 and Android in general.
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday (amazon $149 no tax, free 2 day shipping) :victory:
As you can imagine coming form the Pre, my mind is blown. It's a bit overwhelming, I'm a pretty tech-savvy dude (pre was hacked to its limits) so I down to tinker. But before I even get started with that I have some basic questions.
1. Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
1a Even better would be able to use a simple pin for screen unlock but still have the SD/Internal encrypted with a long password. Is that possible?
2. When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
3. Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
4. What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
5. What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
6. Why is there "com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo.D..." under Device administrator? Do I need that? Is that a security hole/risk?
Again, sorry for so many questions, just trying to wrap my head around all of this. If there is a better place to be asking question please let me know.
Look forward to being part of the community! :highfive:
BR
1) not by default, maybe an app could aid there, not sure, but on stock "out of the box" the answer is "no"
1a) nope, if you want to use encryption, it's password all the way
2) Settings -> Application Manager -> "Running" tab
3) Kind of. It also warns you when you try to kill off a system app, but you can't really damage anything by doing that. I tend to kill just everything I don't want at the moment (which is usually everything but the widgets and app I am intentionally running) and all is well.
Stuff that REALLY needs to run, restarts automatically anyways (and some that don't have to, do as well....)
4) Settings -> Application Manager -> All -> Tap on app -> "Disable"
5) You will find an uncountable number of ROMs / Firmwares here. Stock as well as custom. What the best one is, is personal preference.
6) might be something added by the carrier. try to disable it, see what happens
7) ( ) .... ( ) whoops, no 7 xD
Hope that helped a bit
I'm on sprint and I've had the Palm Pre since launch, I just got my GS3 yesterday
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You most certainly are in the wrong forum. This one is for the international S3 which doesn't feature LTE. There's a Sprint forum right above/below this one =)
Is there a way to only use a password unlock once per phone power-on instead of every time the screen locks?
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That would make password unlock more or less redundant. Anyone could still access the phone.
When I press back, how do I know if an app has been killed? I keep getting the feeling it still somehow running in the background?
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You're correct. Well, partially. It's still "alive" in terms of being in the memory. But it doesn't use CPU anymore which is all that counts.
However you don't want to kill it. Cached processes take up no space (the RAM is emptyed whenever the capacity is needed), no resources and allow you to multi-task right back to where you left off.
Is the application manager like the Windows process manager? How do I know what are essential system apps and what can be stopped?
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You don't want to stop anything. Refer to the prior question for this. Well... you may want to kick off some bloatware but to get rid of thm the phone needs to be rooted. There are threads listing which apps you can safely remove.
What is the best way to get rid of bloatware?
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As said, you need to be rooted. Use TItanium Backup to freeze the bloatware. It's still physically "there" on the disk (doesn't take up much space) and you can defrost it whenever needed but as long as it's frozen it cannot be started.
What are the diffrent system updates? PRL, Profile, Samsung Software, Firmware?
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App updates are always delivered through their corresponding market. Usually the Google Play Store, but as for Samsung apps they have their own update mechanism.
Firmware and ROM are updated either OTA or through Kies on the computer. They can also be manually flashed through Odin.
"com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo
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Sounds like some carrier bloatware and from the name of it is supposed to open some file extension called '.spr' for the phone.
Thank you for the info! Mods could you please move to correct forum?
Hi. I had no problem after following various threads finding out how to downgrade from 5.0 to a release prior to june 5th 2014 and towelroot but I do not wish to buy mobileodin and upgrade or ever end up with 5.0 but I can not find the answer to this anywhere...
How do I block OTA updates? I have found most devices you can change the extension of one or more files under system/app and that is how I would like to do it if possible. Thanks
PS I even tried searching Prevent OTA, Block OTA, Stop OTA, so I'm sorry if there is a thread on this already and it looks dreadfully obvious to someone else.
There are a couple of services you can freeze with Titanium Backup but I think you have to have the Pro version (which means you will have to pay) but if you are rooted, the OTA won't install successfully anyway. It will download and warn you that it's going to install, and then try to install and error out.
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There are a couple of services you can freeze with Titanium Backup
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what services? will titanium tell me which ones? If I know what the services are and their file names, can't i just add ".bak" or anything to the file names? This is the problem, I dont know what they are called. I'm considering getting titanium anyway, so thanks for that info.
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what services? will titanium tell me which ones? If I know what the services are and their file names, can't i just add ".bak" or anything to the file names? This is the problem, I dont know what they are called. I'm considering getting titanium anyway, so thanks for that info.
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Sorry but I don't remember which services they are. But if you do some searching you should be able to find them in these threads. Titanium Backup will not tell you which ones. It's just a backup program. But it does have a lot of features and can freeze programs you don't want to run.
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Sorry but I don't remember which services they are. But if you do some searching you should be able to find them in these threads.
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thanks but the reason I posted is because I can't find them.
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thanks but the reason I posted is because I can't find them.
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I did a simple Google Search on "services to freeze to block ota on S5" and found many articles that talked about it. You might want to give that a try.
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I did a simple Google Search on "services to freeze to block ota on S5" and found many articles that talked about it. You might want to give that a try.
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when you say "found many articles" do you mean you got many hits? I have gone through nearly every one of the first couple pages of results I got from that search before comming here. The only one that actually talked about the specific files did not mention the T-Mobile variant, and the files for the other variants were not the same. All the other results refer to different phones entirely, or talk about using an app. (which is not what I'm asking). There was no reason other than to be a jerk to tell me to google it. If you actually found an answer, why didn't you just tell it to me? Right, because you didn't, because it's not that obvious.
Go to system/priv-app and delete "wssyncmlnps"
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Go to system/priv-app and delete "wssyncmlnps"
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Thanks! Do you think adding ".bak" to it or something will be enough, or would it be better to just copy it to PC and remove it entirely? (I just feel more comfortable having it to put back if ever).
If I don't get a reply, I will just remove it to be sure.
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Thanks! Do you think adding ".bak" to it or something will be enough, or would it be better to just copy it to PC and remove it entirely? (I just feel more comfortable having it to put back if ever).
If I don't get a reply, I will just remove it to be sure.
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Either way will work