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i am currently using CM7 and really like it, but i would like to have my fingerprint scanner back, and some of the motoblur i actually quite liked (though it seems im in a minority XD )
what i'd like to know is: what features would i lose/gain from flashing to Aura? from reading their specs they seem quite similar. is either significantly better (i realise CM7 is only beta, and i will probably go back to it when it has a full release if i do change for now)
thanks a lot
I had cm7 previously, then just flashed aura. Aura (the debloat version) is a bit faster and smoother, however you have to download the 3rd party browser and gallery for the full effect. I'm liking it so far and will jump back into CM7 once it is stablized.
ishamm said:
i am currently using CM7 and really like it, but i would like to have my fingerprint scanner back, and some of the motoblur i actually quite liked (though it seems im in a minority XD )
what i'd like to know is: what features would i lose/gain from flashing to Aura? from reading their specs they seem quite similar. is either significantly better (i realise CM7 is only beta, and i will probably go back to it when it has a full release if i do change for now)
thanks a lot
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The devs of cm7 go for the slimmest fastest rom they can come up with, cm7 is beta, but it is solid no doubt, it is the fastest rom for the atrix hands down.
with cm7 you boot up with 800-600mb ram aura 500-300. cm7 rom file is more the 50% smaller then blur roms.
with cm7 you curently loose the fingerprint scanner and webtop, but they have fp scanner working and it should be in the next build. for webtop who knows =p
ohhh cm7 has some sick themes that are mad easy to apply
theres more but yea enough said
Hi all
I hope you can help me with this. I have just bought an Atrix and need a little advice.
This is now my third Moto Android phone. I had a Dext (Cliq), and currently have a Defy. After a few ROMs I settled on MIUI, which I love. Unfortunately I notice this is not yet available for the Atrix, so I will need to select another ROM to use.
I would go straight for CM7, as this is my second choice ROM anyway, but it doesn't support the fingerprint scanner. I don't know if I will actually use this, but it's a new toy I don't want to loose
Can anyone suggest a ROM which would suit me? I don't want Blur (used to love it but I've found phones run so much better without), but I would like to have the fingerprint scanner working, and preferably the Webtop (I'm going to look at getting a lapdock when I can afford it).
Thanks in advance
Mouse
I like Alien4 until CM7 gets fingerprint support.
Looks good, although I would prefer no blur.
Is it possible to de-blur? Like I said, I have found in the past it just slows everything down and eats battery, and I have found better replacements for everything it does.
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Looks good, although I would prefer no blur.
Is it possible to de-blur? Like I said, I have found in the past it just slows everything down and eats battery, and I have found better replacements for everything it does.
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Alien is partially de-blurred.
Fingerprint and webtop are blue-based. So until cm7 gets fp, you have to choose between not having blur and having fp/webtop
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I love the Aura rom! or if you want a little more oomph there is darkside (based on aura) Aura has amazing battery life and I wasn't really into alien for some reason. I would try them both, but I want to fond of the alien :/
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Looks good, although I would prefer no blur.
Is it possible to de-blur? Like I said, I have found in the past it just slows everything down and eats battery, and I have found better replacements for everything it does.
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Alien is partially de-blurred.
Fingerprint and webtop are blue-based. So until cm7 gets fp, you have to choose between not having blur and having fp/webtop
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You have the option of skipping the Blur setup and then freezing Blur, thats what I did. I have no Blur, but I have fingerprint scanner, no need to choose between them.
I'm using CHERRYpi until CM7 gets the kinks worked out with the FP reader and webtop. I switched over to the Motorola ATRIX from a HTC KAISER and wasn't to taken by motoBLUR myself and can't find a faster or easier way to unlock my phone than the built in fingerprint reader (have corporate sync and phone always wants to lock itself). Not exactly sure how CHERRYpi does it versus CHERRYblur, but I only saw the original home page with 7 screens once shortly after flashing the ROM, and logging in/loading my accounts and contacts. Using the red CHERRYpi crust and have been very happy with it. Guess Blur is frozen in the background somehow to allow use of all features. Haven't tried webtop yet as I haven't got a multimedia docking station to hook my phone up to my big screen projector
Maybe worth a try for you, I've been fairly pleased with battery life, too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189497&highlight=CHERRY
I'm running Aura which comes in 3 flavors (De-Blurred, Blurred, and Accounts) De-Blurred is stock android with a tonne of tweaks and such. Accounts is still de-blurred but supports the Blur Accounts (it's what I use), and then Blurred is a fully blurred rom.
There is also Homebase, the newer of which are all de-blurred.
Looks like there's a lot of choice! Think I'm just going to have to pick a couple to try out, and see what I like. With a bit of luck I won't be waiting too long for CM, there are vids of the FP scanner working. MIUI shouldn't be too long after that.
Thanks for all your suggestions.
Personally, I think Aura and The DarkSide are the 2 best ROM's for the Atrix. DS is based off of Aura, but it's a themed ROM, which is pretty cool, IMO. Aura has 3 separate versions: Blurred, Accounts, and De-Blurred. "Blurred" has all of the Blur stuff still in it, just a stripped down version; "Accounts" has the Blur removed, but still allows you to access all of the stuff that's involved with "accounts;" and "De-Blurred" is just that, all the Blur/bloatware removed.
I currently am using DS 2.5.1, but I find myself constantly switching between the two as they are both that good. If you want most of the original features, I would go with either of those two. CM7 has a lot of issues with features not working. Also, the developers for CM7 don't really update it much, supposedly.
I tried the Alien ROM, but it just wasn't as good as DS or Aura. Aura seems to get some of the best battery life out of all the ROM's I've tried (Aura, DarkSide, Alien, and Homebase). DS is within a close 2nd, I would say. Hopefully that helps somewhat.
Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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I have used and extensivly tested both of them, if you want the
full features of your camera to remain intact you should select
the UnNamed 1.0.4 rom. CM7 lacks many of the features in the
camera part of the phone and it does not give you the full 30fps
framerates while recording videos as well as other issues.
Not only that, but the cosmetic appearance of the camera's lcd screen looks
like some cheapy camera phone and lacks many of the options which are found
in all the stock and custom roms except in CM7.
Hope this helps.
CM7 is good, but still has some rough edges.. I would suggest unnamed as your option being a new Android user. unnamed is based on the stock ROM and enhances on the stock rom. So basically everything works out of the box as it was intended to be
Okay thanks guys! Exactly what I needed. I thought since CNET was bigger, it would be better. good thing I asked!
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As stated above there are a lot of difference between the two roms you mentioned above. I would say try them all out as it is very easy. Get a rom working THE WAY YOU LIKE IT, then make a nandroid backup, try out another rom and set it up the way you like it and then make a nandroid backup. Then you can easily go between roms or stick with what you like best. As far as CM7 goes (I have been using CM7 since my captivate) and have found I like it the best. Due to integrated modifications and such it has everything working great. I do see that the camera works well but is not the same as the stock camera as far as settings and the CM7 camcorder (haven't noticed any issues personally) framerates not working as good as stock/stock based roms, and speed dial is not built in. Those are the ONLY things that can use some work in my humble opinion. But if your like me and want to customize easier, switch to different themes on the fly without any problems other than opening up the built in theme Chooser app. For stock roms I always had to wait for the theme developer to update his theme between rom updates due to framework changes, sometimes this would be the same day to a few days in between. Just trying to share some of the benefits CM7 may have. I have also tried different roms as UnNamed rom and they do work really well, the speed and fluidity of the stock based roms is as good as CM7 right now (wasn't the case on my captivate as CM7 worked smoother and faster than stock based roms). Plus CM7 will PROBABLY have ICS working before it is working on the stock roms. There are many things to look at and try out, so that is why I recommend trying them all out and find what you like.
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Simply put, do you want it to be smooth or not? UnNamed is liquid butter smooth for me, cm wasn't. I have a very picky eye for this kind of thing being a pc gamer
tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
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tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
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I like CM7 as well however the Camera is one of the main feats of the phone, and if there was a good alternative whether 3rd party or not i would keep CM7 (its still on a NAND backup) but there isnt. Not even the MIUI Camera works (which is kinda nice). Also, the MHL out doesn't work as you mentioned, and battery life is fairly close to one another.
I personally bounce back between serendipity and Cm7, However IF there was a way to run a i9100 rom on our phones, then i would run gingerMOD all the way.
I've tried most of the roms in the development section, and I'm not knocking the dev who are creating some great roms, but I keep coming back to the stock rom. What's so bad about keeping stock. I mean once the roms in the dev section get all the kinks worked out (mms), I'm sure I'll be going to them, but stock so far seems to work really well. My battery life is decent, and everything works. I do like the MUI rom though, just the mms issue, is keeping me from running it as a daily rom. Just thought, I'd give some props to the stock rom.
Its all personal preference. I personally cant stand blur it drives me nuts, CM9 and nearly ever other has working mms(-MIUI for now) and im a huge CM fan ever since I first flashed CM7. Whatever works best for your uses really.
i jus dont like stock roms at all. they have too much bloatware on them i think
My phone is laggy with the stock rom but Im not willing to lose 4G to run something else. Im just holding on till Sprint has a better phone and I can retire the Photon.
same for me. CM and MIUI jus run so much smoother
Maybe I need to try then newer versions out. I'm using launcher pro on my stock and it seems smooth
In my experience, on the Photon you do not need anything other than stock. Stock runs GREAT. Every custom ROM I have tried has issues.
However, most of my other Android phones really needed custom ROMs due to battery or other issues which hampered their performance.
The Photon is the rare phone that works fine as is.
IMO.
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Maybe I need to try then newer versions out. I'm using launcher pro on my stock and it seems smooth
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I like stock also but can't help myself cab use some market launchers also on Miui and cm9 just like stock
MIUI/ICS for the Photon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536161
Stock:
Laggy/choppy UI (this is a major sales killer. out of the box the lg optimus ui is faster/smoother)
Tons of mostly unused proprietary account services running in the background (BlurOrkut for example)
Mostly useless widgets (When most tap on a clock widget they want it to open the clock app. almost all of the blur widgets do nothing when you tap them)
If you replace the launcher, never use most of the blur services and use third party widgets then stock is a overweight and mostly useless. That being said, if you love blur and it's widgets, use most of those builtin account services then stock is the way to go.
Stock ROM completely lacks the ability to customize everything. Thats what I hate most about it.
I loaded Jokers skinnyV2, and wow, awesome. Fast, smooth and everything is working like stock. I think I found a new daily driver.
I bounce between stock and cm9 stock when I need 4g and cm9 when I want processing and better multi tasking. Not to mention cm9 has more features.
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At least once a week I feel convinced that I NEED 4G, camcorder, or mms, so I install one of the modified stock roms. This usually lasts about 30 minutes before I come to my senses and go back to an ICS rom. I've been using Joker's ICS builds since about the fourth day of owning my photon, and running any non ics rom just feels like putting lawn mower wheels on a Ferrari. Giving up a couple features that I would realistically use at most 10 minutes a week in exchange for an infinitely better user experience is a no brainer in my opinion.
I went back to stock about a month ago and could not be happier!!!! I have not had one single issue since (with exception of Sprints Network!) and the Photon is flawless!
BTW: I got butt naked too! OtterBox is off over by my desktop gaming computer I never use! Dont use my 2 laptops eithere. Nor my PS3. I gotta clean this place up!
I hated stock from day one. Its slow. I have tried just about every rom that the photon has to offer. My daily is between cm9 and MIUI. I just cant make up my mind because I like the fact that MIUI has lots of themes but cm9 is just awsome. Im about to try AOKP so ima jump off. cya
Thanks all for the replies. I think I'll try the newer cm9 and mui roms. So far I'm really liking the joker skinnyv2. I'm going to test out the cm9, mui today.
Personally, I think I, and most here, have a few issues.
#1. I rooted and unlocked it.
#2. I had 230+ apps, most I had no clue!
#3. I had 3 launchers i was bouncing back and forth.
#4. Damm thing kept freezing and I had to reboot several times a week!
#5. My Bluetooth headphones were iffy? (if thats a word!)
I put it back to stock, down to maybe 60 apps, stock UI! The 7 Panels with Stock UI I have configured with my most common apps, with screens for Business, Games, Communication, Shopping, my Social accounts.......
The speed, on 3G is amazing and I can quickly check my bank account, lottery, whatever. The only thing I have extra is Weather Toggle Widgit on home screen.
@ 4 or 5 years ago, I got into flashing/rooting/unlocking/ROM's because I wanted my phone to look/be different. With Stock Photon and some time, it is different! Besides, at the end of the day, bottom line is, I need a fully functional working phone!
JMO!
David Out!
I personally run CM7 and the reason being is that I like having the ability to customize every little detail on my phone and as far as I can tell it runs smoother then stock did for me. I will switch over to CM9 once they just get a one more kink worked out, I need to be able to watch Netflix so I'm waiting for the HW acceleration drivers to be added and then I'll be all in.
I just installed MIUI yesterday and from what I see its even MORE customizable than CM7 including three launchers and all the google apps built in. Its also based on ICS just like CM9 is.
being as im new to the photon but not new to droids ive flashed both cm7 and im currently running the latest build of cm9. that being said my phone runs so much smoother with these roms than i was stock. if it wasnt for the great devs we have for these phones and their persistent need to tweak everything i think the droid market would have crashed long ago. but it is personal preference but personally i like my phones to work 90% or more of the time, with stock i could never get the reliabilty like i could with roms.
Hi all, i havent bit the bullet yet with this rooting game as the atrix as been plenty fast enough for me box standard, but since getting the lapdock and finding it so painfully slow that I wont use it, I started googling my options, so here i am as it seems that rooting is the answer!
Ive been reading about Jellybean and it sounds like its been designed to work with accessories like the lapdock, that lead me to read the thread about the CM10 rom that epinter is building which sounds brilliant.
I cant ask the Q on that thread because im a noob so can someone tell me if epinters cm10 works with the lapdock or would i need to add things.
thanks
Joe
Epinter's CM10 work with lapdock, but just simple HDMI output, the webtop app isn't work.
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Epinter's CM10 work with lapdock, but just simple HDMI output, the webtop app isn't work.
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yes and hdmi output doesn t work landspece mod or i didn t find yet
Thanks for the replies guys but just to clarify, your both saying -
The lapdock works?
Well of course it works, however much like CM9 it's only going to mirror the video output from the phone right now. However the auto tablet switch is still broken (from what it sounds like, I'm not on CM10 yet.) and Moto's WebTop is obviously still broken as well.
Personally I'm waiting for a version of Paranoid Android based on CM10. Maybe when that hits I can finally switch modes without having to reboot.
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it's only going to mirror the video output from the phone right now.
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I think i could live with that as the browser on the lapdock is only useable if i use it through the phone rather than its own firefox.
So i would just be losing out on screen resolution.
Does JB still have the bug where on the lapdock you get 10 FPS and on the phone its nice and smooth?
Actually I'm getting decent FPS with Paranoid Android. It's still not great but it's WAY better than it was. The start screen for Need for Speed: Shift and it's pretty good. Galaxy on Fire 2 THD works like I expect it to as well. My guess is that it's been fixed in Joker's latest CM9's and yeah CM10 as well.
I doubt it will be perfect until Moto releases ICS officially though (and hopefully they can use something out of that to help with CM10 too).
do the cm 9 ports have hdmi output
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I doubt my lapdock would work if they didn't. Also I've tried the cable with a DVI adapter and that works fine, so yeah.
If you meant CM10, I have no clue yet but I'm getting tired of waiting for a CM10 based parandroid (which is what I'm going to call it for short from now on, because I think it's clever).
I've flashed cm10 and will give my lapdock a try when its charged. The is some mention of changes today but I haven't read the change log.
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I just flashed it, didn't even bother with the new gapps yet though. Came over from Parandorid 1.6 and all I did was wiped the caches.
So far no issues but I absolutely HATE the app picker. It was much easier with ICS where you picked it and checked always use if you wanted to. Now you have to pick it and select either just once or always (so two taps instead of one).
Loud sound lapdock
On [ROM] CM10 (JellyBean) for Atrix - 20120729 very loud lapdock sound in mirror mode. What I can do on it?
What do you mean loud? It functions normally for me. Maybe turn down the volume? Sorry you're going to need to be more specific as to what the problem is.
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What do you mean loud? It functions normally for me. Maybe turn down the volume? Sorry you're going to need to be more specific as to what the problem is.
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Very loud minimum volume (level 1).
I tried with both the phone speaker and the stereo system I plug it into and I could not replicate the issue on my end, sorry.
You did check all the volume levels right?
Posting a logcat might help someone. I'd mention the issue in the main thread.
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I just flashed it, didn't even bother with the new gapps yet though. Came over from Parandorid 1.6 and all I did was wiped the caches.
So far no issues but I absolutely HATE the app picker. It was much easier with ICS where you picked it and checked always use if you wanted to. Now you have to pick it and select either just once or always (so two taps instead of one).
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So just to make it clear. You dont have webtop with the flashed rom?
Is there an ICS ROM with working webtop yet?
I only use the Atrix with the lapdock in GB. Is there an ICS ROM with proper support or do I have to wait for the official ICS?
NO ONE has webtop with JB, let alone ICS. If they do they're *******s for hiding it from the rest of us.
The devs are working on it. Official ICS *SHOULD* bring it when it hits (if it hits, which I'm sure it's going to it's just taking forever).
What I'd really like to see is companies release all the source code for their "dead" devices. But it will probably be a cold day on Mercury when that happens.
I don't even have a webtop like interface either, nor will I until paranoid android comes out with a modified CM10 of their own. My hope is then that I can switch DPI without having to reboot.
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NO ONE has webtop with GB, let alone ICS. If they do they're *******s for hiding it from the rest of us.
The devs are working on it. Official ICS *SHOULD* bring it when it hits (if it hits, which I'm sure it's going to it's just taking forever).
What I'd really like to see is companies release all the source code for their "dead" devices. But it will probably be a cold day on Mercury when that happens.
I don't even have a webtop like interface either, nor will I until paranoid android comes out with a modified CM10 of their own. My hope is then that I can switch DPI without having to reboot.
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So I'll just stick with 2.3.4 stock, my lapdock working and wait patiently for ICS.
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So I'll just stick with 2.3.4 stock, my lapdock working and wait patiently for ICS.
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so your phone isnt rooted and your lapdock works ok?