Ok - So I have a Lumia 920 on EE (and before people launch into any rants - I'm happy with the contract - I switched from Voda RED to the EE unlimited mins/Text/3GB data and its 6 quid cheaper than the Vodafone plan for iPhone - It does for me) ...
What is worrying is the Datasense app is missing. It was in all the pre release reviews and is listed here on the Windows phone site http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8/start/use-data-sense-to-track-data-usage but can I find it for the Lumia - No.
Anyone have any idea where I can get the app ?
G.
Not in the Nokia Lumia 920 User Guide
Hi all
There is no mention of Data Sense in the Nokia Lumia 920 user guide.
There is also no mention of it in the HTC 8X user guide.
It looks like it's either missing from all Windows Phone 8 devices or OEMs have the option of removing it.
I can only imagine the feature would be very unpopular with network providers, who OEM are primarily selling to.
Oh, well, that's one for innovation!
God bless
andrew-in-woking
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Hi all
There is no mention of Data Sense in the Nokia Lumia 920 user guide.
There is also no mention of it in the HTC 8X user guide.
It looks like it's either missing from all Windows Phone 8 devices or OEMs have the option of removing it.
I can only imagine the feature would be very unpopular with network providers, who OEM are primarily selling to.
Oh, well, that's one for innovation!
God bless
andrew-in-woking
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OEM's have to want it included. So far only Verizon in the US has implemented it and microsoft says more will opt to add it in, when 2013 comes around.
I wonder if someone can figure out how to add it onto any WP8 device without OEM approval
Kingakapadia said:
OEM's have to want it included. So far only Verizon in the US has implemented it and microsoft says more will opt to add it in, when 2013 comes around.
I wonder if someone can figure out how to add it onto any WP8 device without OEM approval
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Any update on this - has anyone got it on EE yet ??:crying:
data sense only works if the carrier supports it. At the moment, it seems that Verizon US is actively supporting data sense, just waiting until other carriers actually support the function and push out an OTA to enable datasense on our phones :|
klcow said:
data sense only works if the carrier supports it. At the moment, it seems that Verizon US is actively supporting data sense, just waiting until other carriers actually support the function and push out an OTA to enable datasense on our phones :|
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This is not true, is part or some firmware and I did test and work, I flash the RM-820 that have data sense 059R742, FW RM820_1232.5951.1249.1001_RETAIL_lta_lta1_266_01_129724_prd_signed.
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This RM-821 from Puerto Rico have data sense 059S1C4. RM821_1232.5951.1249.1002_RETAIL_lta_lta1_546_02_129644_prd_signed
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gaspodex said:
Ok - So I have a Lumia 920 on EE (and before people launch into any rants - I'm happy with the contract - I switched from Voda RED to the EE unlimited mins/Text/3GB data and its 6 quid cheaper than the Vodafone plan for iPhone - It does for me) ...
What is worrying is the Datasense app is missing. It was in all the pre release reviews and is listed here on the Windows phone site http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8/start/use-data-sense-to-track-data-usage but can I find it for the Lumia - No.
Anyone have any idea where I can get the app ?
G.
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Here:
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=751c5efb-f4c2-4f46-91bf-1a01ef2790ba
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[/COLOR]This RM-821 from Puerto Rico have data sense 059S1C4. RM821_1232.5951.1249.1002_RETAIL_lta_lta1_546_02_129644_prd_signed
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Hi,I'm interested to try this variant but I can't seem to find this on NCS or Navifirm. Have you got a link to the file to download? Cheers.
habnzrot said:
Hi,I'm interested to try this variant but I can't seem to find this on NCS or Navifirm. Have you got a link to the file to download? Cheers.
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Is in navfirm, you need to delete cache.
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Hi all,
I've decided to bite the bullet and switch carriers just so I can upgrade from my HD7 to the Titan. Keep in mind I will be unlocking the phone for use on Telus in Canada which is compatible with AT&T 3G.
However I am trying to figure out if there is any benefit to getting the AT&T variant over the unlocked, unbranded model.
I see that on the box for the AT&T model it shows 4G compatible which is cool. So I would assume that using it on Telus would also give me 4G speeds. On the specs for the unlocked model it only shows 3G so I'm wondering if that's not entirely true. I also read somewhere HTC may have included Beats technology in the AT&T version but I doubt it since I haven't heard anything else about that.
I think I'd prefer an unbranded model over the AT&T one but also wondering if anything comes bundled as well that might make one better over the other. Also are the hardware specs identical?
Any help on this would be great
should be no difference or
the only difference is it would be sim locked for their network only the unlocked will work on either telus or at&t without trouble, you could work on sim unlocking the at&t version and that might be a little troublesome, I could be wrong but telus and at&t are promoting FAUX G which is still using 3g with increased speed boost if I am getting this right, hspa+
so the hardware is the same with some minor cosmetic differences (carrier branding vs none) the os and ui with msft strict requirements will be pretty much the same and you could easily uninstall carrier bundled apps, since you do live in canada I would just get the unlocked euro one, you will and I do notice that it switches from H to 3G and then E for Edge every now and then, but if you know how to do it get the at&t version and sim unlock it
Well the unlocked unbranded version uses 3G on 850/900/2100 MHz. AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz. It appears to me that I'm getting HSPA on my Titan, but not HSPA+, but I haven't really tested it very much. You'll have to check what Telus uses for HSPA+ to check if that will work.
Holding down the Windows/Start button brings up the Microsoft Tellme voice activated stuff. It works fine, but the lady has a British accent. This isn't a big deal.
The charger that ships with the unlocked version is the British Standards 1363 plug. Mine also had a BS 1363 to NEMA 5 adapter (aka UK to US), but it was separate from the box, so I think the company I purchased from, eXpansys, threw that in for free. Of course it includes a micro USB charging cable, so any computer USB port or USB wall charger would work, even if you can't use the included charger.
and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
it dont matter IMO, it's so fast already i love it
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Thanks everyone for the info!!
However I'm curious as to which model will give me HSPA+... If anyone can confirm that I'd appreciate it
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Get the ATT version. The unlocked Euro version will not connect to the same 3G bands. As for 4G don't get your hopes up there is no real 4G yet. Until a standard is set any one can say it has 4g if it. 000001 MB over the Max 3g connection.
Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Well I took my chances and just bought the ATT version off a seller on eBay. We made the deal for $630US incl. shipping. I don't know what the phone sell for off contract but it's the cheapest one I could find that wasn't already open or used. He also sent in a request for an unlock code for it so I'm hoping we'll be able to get one.
I remember the horror when I couldn't get an unlock code for my HD7 and had to wait a week before the codes were available.
Anyway.. it's being sent by UPS so should have it by Weds next week Now I hope it's not a lemon or I'm screwed!!
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Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
zelendel said:
Go to the Ace hack kit thread for the inspire and read it. Unlocking it is simple as long as you read the manual and have a little common sense.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Not sure I understood you correctly. I followed your advice to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352&highlight=Ace+hack+kit
This is for an Android device and it's not clear to me what the purpose of this hack is for and how it's related to the HTC Titan.
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Oops sorry wrong phone. That will teach me to bebppsting in 12 threads at the same time. Lol. Forget I said that
I have the AT&T model that I got at a Windows-Phone inner circle thing, and it is HSPA+, I unlocked mine at cellunlock.net as well.
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and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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My dead-end problem.
mine come from UK, and yes, the lady inside the phone almost never recognize my English Voice Pattern, even the simplest: IMDB.
It is funny when i am foreign, i was studying British English at home and now only Americans can understand me. LMAO.
I mean, my HD7 T-Mobile almost never have trouble in using the voice to open stuffs, but my UK Titan is a pain in the ass.
By the way, i would recommend double check everything because my turn-by-turn Navigation of Bing maps doesn't work at US for UK version. If you are really need Turn-by-Turn, i would recommend the AT&T version because it is designed for US Road, maybe Canada too. But we also have other alter maps like Nokia Maps is coming out, or navigon... blah.
If not, the Sim-Free Quad-band Unlocked Titan from Europe is also sweet. I can hit home anytime and use any sim without paying $30-$45 for an unlock code and worry about 3G Frequency since it is the world phone.
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and you know what too with that womans british accent i think the phone is programmed to understand english with an accent, my voice to text experience has been less than stellar lately and my british accent is terrible LOL
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That is true. I have this problem and no solutions exists yet. "Display language" in the Settings has "English" with no US/UK selection. It is UK effectively. Bing Maps will therefore have no voice guidance, and speech accessibility (announcing caller name, etc.) don't work, and you need to have a British accent for it to understand you.
I guess we'll have to wait for an AT&T ROM to flash on our devices.
this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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this is true! i just realized my bing maps doesn't work either, it shows my location and will tell me where something is in relation to it but it cannot give me directions, thank god for the turn by turn navigation app which i use frequently, bing maps cannot provide me directions, and it would be great if my voice to text would work as well, yes we will have to wait for some cooked roms to come our way,
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my thing is and I don't know if any other us euro titan owners are experiencing this, but i have a great rate and unlimited data plan with at&t because my device is not recognized in their system, if I were to install and at&t rom in the future , would ma bell immediately see my titan and slap a capped data plan on my account?
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Starting today, they will probably recognize your phone... lol
Doesn't matter which ROM it runs, they can see it as "HTC Titan" and apply any restrictions they wish.
From the ATT site on the Titan specs: *4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul.
Also, ATT sells the Titan new for $549.99 without contract and free shipping.
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I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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I was in a mall today with 2 outlets for the AT&T Titan: the Microsoft Store and an AT&T store.
I entered the IMEI for both shops' floor models into htcimeiunlock.com, and for both of them the site claimed to have the codes immediately available, for $25. I've had good luck with that site in the past so I believe that at least for the first batch of Titans the codes are readily available for $25 or so.
Contrast that with AT&T, who probably won't have or give the codes for months, if ever.
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what codes are you referring to? the $25 app cards? everyone is going to get them, i don't see why at&t would take time on this, this is sanctioned by msft, all you have to do is go on the msft's own side enter your imei proof of purchase and voila you get a $25 app card mailed to you i believe
and also at&t is a great network! they 10x better coverage than tmobile, i've had horrible experiences with tmobile letting me down, you can have the bestest shiniest most advanced phone out there and but its a useless paperweight if your carrier lets you down
"Codes" == SIM unlock codes (thought that was obvious from my mention of "htcimeiunlock.com").
Good luck getting them from AT&T any time in the next few months, even for a phone purchased at unsubsidized price.
Not a big deal for some folks, but some of us like to travel abroad with our phones and use them with local SIM cards, which makes unlocking critical. Fortunately, there's a non-AT&T source for the codes for HTC devices... you're SOL if you want to travel with a Samsung Mango phone!
[Q] Tempted to order the AT&T Lumia 920 unlocked from Expansys, what will be broken?
Because the Rogers Lumia 920 is black only and I am actually a Bell customer here in Canada and I have a decent deal with them without a contract, I am tempted to order the unlocked Lumia 920 from expansys.ca.
However, what will not work if I do that? From a cursory glance at the Internet, it seems that MMS and possibly Internet Tethering may not work. Has anyone tried this yet?
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Because the Rogers Lumia 920 is black only and I am actually a Bell customer here in Canada and I have a decent deal with them without a contract, I am tempted to order the unlocked Lumia 920 from expansys.ca.
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I just saw the category is "unlocked". It would be interesting to know how they can sell unlocked AT&T versions.
psalmu said:
Where do you see that it's unlocked? A high price alone does not mean that.
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Expansys sells unlocked phones That's what they do.
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Expansys sells unlocked phones That's what they do.
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I'd get that in writing or be darn sure you can return it. Then...order and play with it to see. Then report back here
I am not at all concerned that it will be available unlocked. I am concerned that all the features of an unlocked Lumia 920 will work on Bell. Specifically in the past users have had issues with MMS and Internet Tethering... I am hoping somebody else has jumped on this device from expansys.ca and can share their experiences.
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I am not at all concerned that it will be available unlocked. I am concerned that all the features of an unlocked Lumia 920 will work on Bell. Specifically in the past users have had issues with MMS and Internet Tethering... I am hoping somebody else has jumped on this device from expansys.ca and can share their experiences.
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BTW, the unlocked version from Expansys Canada is $800. You may want to check out Clove, where it is priced at $630. I would assume that tethering should work on an international unlocked version. I may check out the ones from Clove, rather than buy a (hard to find) Rogers version.
rajeshr said:
BTW, the unlocked version from Expansys Canada is $800. You may want to check out Clove, where it is priced at $630. I would assume that tethering should work on an international unlocked version. I may check out the ones from Clove, rather than buy a (hard to find) Rogers version.
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Unless I am mistaken, the international version will not work with Bell's LTE network. Bell requires 1700MHz currently don't they? http://www.clove.co.uk/nokia-lumia-920
The LTE frequencies listed on the Clove website are 800 / 900/ 1800/ 2100 / 2600. The AT&T device does support 1700. I don't want HSPA+ if I can get LTE.
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Unless I am mistaken, the international version will not work with Bell's LTE network. Bell requires 1700MHz currently don't they? http://www.clove.co.uk/nokia-lumia-920
The LTE frequencies listed on the Clove website are 800 / 900/ 1800/ 2100 / 2600. The AT&T device does support 1700. I don't want HSPA+ if I can get LTE.
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Good catch!
The LTE Bands listed on the international version are 800/900/1800/2100/2600 while the Rogers version has 700/850/1700/1900/2100.
rajeshr said:
Good catch!
The LTE Bands listed on the international version are 800/900/1800/2100/2600 while the Rogers version has 700/850/1700/1900/2100.
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The AT&T version also supports 700/1700 for LTE:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nokia-lumia-920-for-att-review/
Sot it should work. Why are you so sure that Expansys isn't able to unlock the phones? I am hoping to hear back from them tomorrow. The Nexus 4 is starting to look pretty compelling at this point, no hoops to jump through and a great price. I just really like Windows Phone and am excited about it but I do have limits.
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The AT&T version also supports 700/1700 for LTE:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nokia-lumia-920-for-att-review/
Sot it should work. Why are you so sure that Expansys isn't able to unlock the phones? .
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Just a guess, but I think most of the hesitation around unlocking has to do with the fact that there is apparently an AT&T exclusivity agreement, and that sales of unlocked phones is prohibited by that. Nokia really didn't do themselves any favors if this is the case.
I honestly can't believe that Microsoft didn't set it up so you could order them straight from MS, and set it up like the Nexus 4... but then this type of reasoning requires logic, which it seems most companies in this business are completely bereft of.
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Just a guess, but I think most of the hesitation around unlocking has to do with the fact that there is apparently an AT&T exclusivity agreement, and that sales of unlocked phones is prohibited by that. Nokia really didn't do themselves any favors if this is the case.
I honestly can't believe that Microsoft didn't set it up so you could order them straight from MS, and set it up like the Nexus 4... but then this type of reasoning requires logic, which it seems most companies in this business are completely bereft of.
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Oh I know the phone arrives @ AT&T locked. But most carriers will now unlock them for a fee. Rogers charges $50, Bell charges $75. I am assuming that AT&T does something similar, and thus outfits like Expansys can take care of this for you (and take care of importing and other niceties) and sell the phone at a premium? I emailed them about it, hope to hear back soon.
Windows Phone 8 includes MMS setup now, so there's no need for a Nokia-supplied network setup app and there's little worry about getting MMS working.
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Oh I know the phone arrives @ AT&T locked. But most carriers will now unlock them for a fee. Rogers charges $50, Bell charges $75. I am assuming that AT&T does something similar, and thus outfits like Expansys can take care of this for you (and take care of importing and other niceties) and sell the phone at a premium? I emailed them about it, hope to hear back soon.
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Reports are trickling out that AT&T is refusing to provide unlock codes for the 920's. Not sure how true that information is, but I would be cautious!
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Reports are trickling out that AT&T is refusing to provide unlock codes for the 920's. Not sure how true that information is, but I would be cautious!
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So I emailed Expansys, they confirmed the AT&T Lumia 920 IS unlocked. However, reports on the Nokia Canada Facebook page indicate that a user on a different network could NOT get MMS nor tethering to work on an unlocked Rogers 920. I'd imagine that the AT&T would have the same problem. *sigh* almost ready to give up here. Nokia has made it basically almost impossible to get an unlocked Lumia in North America. They obviously hold Canadian customers in contempt. Perhaps they don't even deserve my business. It's too bad its a nice phone Super discouraged right now.
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So I emailed Expansys, they confirmed the AT&T Lumia 920 IS unlocked. However, reports on the Nokia Canada Facebook page indicate that a user on a different network could NOT get MMS nor tethering to work on an unlocked Rogers 920. I'd imagine that the AT&T would have the same problem. *sigh* almost ready to give up here. Nokia has made it basically almost impossible to get an unlocked Lumia in North America. They obviously hold Canadian customers in contempt. Perhaps they don't even deserve my business. It's too bad its a nice phone Super discouraged right now.
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I totally feel your frustration. I too am with Bell and want a 920. my problem is I want a RED one. and rogers for some insane reason only carries black. (rogers logo color is what? RED)
I have been hunting around for a unlocked RED 920 sense its launch. all I keep finding are the UK versions of the phone.
I have gotten so confused with trying to figure out which phone supports Bell LTE that I may be giving up soon.
I don't want to toss out 6-800 $ for a phone that only partly works. the whole reason I am in the market for a new phone is wifi tethering.
lets see what comes first, nexus 4 in stock or me locating a red 920 for bell network. (heck I would settle for a white one now)
Going by NaviFirm, there's a red Rogers variant. Hope you get that. The Access Point app has worked perfectly for me for tethering and MMS.
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HTC 8x has started getting updates of the new OS. Any news on when Lumia phones will get the update?
No news, but I assume quite fast for unlocked phones. Rest are subject to carriers I assume.
http://www.wpcentral.com/first-ota-update-windows-phone-8-os-now-live-htc-8x
http://www.wpcentral.com/new-windows-phone-8-os-update-portico-brings-sms-drafts-and-call-reject-it
Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
This looks promising ?
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peterfnet said:
Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
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Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
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Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
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They will have it already, and it's in Nokia's interests to get it out fast and ideally beat HTC to the punch every time, as HTC have been set up as Premier Partners. Nokia want to be THE choice for WP8 buyers, so they need to be there first with the best reputation for updates and excellent hardware.
Nokia obviously has that build available because the Lumia 920T (the chinese variant) is already running that newer build of the OS.
true, must just be waiting for the rollout ok from carriers. I'll check my 8X to see if that's updating on EE, that way we should know if the carriers are slowing things down or not with a quick carrier vs unlocked update speed comparison.
(Groan) I hope it's not the carriers. Pulling teeth with oily fingers is easier than persuading AT&T to release updates in a timely manner. :\
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Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
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Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
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That enthusiasts program hasn't rolled out yet. You have to sign up to this program in order to bypass your carrier.
I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
gilesjuk said:
I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
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probably not, since carriers no longer decide updates, Microsoft manages it now
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probably not, since carriers no longer decide updates, Microsoft manages it now
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wishful thinking with zero facts behind it.
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I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
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how do you know what rom is a generic one? I have been searching but i haven´t find it yet. can you help me'
thanks in advance
Adding to that, does 4G still work on the generic UK ROM, as EE has 4G specific software bits, e.g. the 3G/2G toggle is now the 4G/3G toggle.
So, since I have a Rogers branded but unlocked phone and running it on Telus, what bucket would I be put in? Would I get the generic updates or the Rogers? My phone STILL says that the Mobile Operator Name is ROG-CA, so I'm not too sure what to make of my situation.
jeromel said:
So, since I have a Rogers branded but unlocked phone and running it on Telus, what bucket would I be put in? Would I get the generic updates or the Rogers? My phone STILL says that the Mobile Operator Name is ROG-CA, so I'm not too sure what to make of my situation.
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You will be under the mercy of Rogers. In order to get out of Roger's grip, you will need to be de-branded. SIM unlock means nothing. In the old days of WM7.0, you can jailbreak your phone and edit a registry to de-brand. Now, you pretty much have to flash a unbranded ROM to do it.
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You will be under the mercy of Rogers. In order to get out of Roger's grip, you will need to be de-branded. SIM unlock means nothing. In the old days of WM7.0, you can jailbreak your phone and edit a registry to de-brand. Now, you pretty much have to flash a unbranded ROM to do it.
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I reject your answer and substitute it with my own. The answer is...
Crap... NaviFirm only has 2 ROMs for the Canadian versions... both of which are Rogers branded. I'm SOOL.
gallegus said:
how do you know what rom is a generic one? I have been searching but i haven´t find it yet. can you help me'
thanks in advance
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Well it doesn't have the name of a mobile network in the filename. I went from one with EE and UK in the filename to one which just says CV GB.
Currently I'm on a galaxy s2 skyrocket with AT&T. When I go to class, I use the internet from my phone for my laptop since my phone was rooted, I don't pay any extra or anything and I grandfathered in the unlimited internet. I was wondering if I could do this with a lumia 920. my contract just ended and I need to know this before I buy it
No unless you are willing to flash ROMs for different country regions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271450
foxbat121 said:
No unless you are willing to flash ROMs for different country regions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271450
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hmm, other than the tethering, what does flashing different regions change?
The lumia will actually poll your account and see if tethering is enabled on it. If it is not, the lumia will not allow you to tether.
upperg said:
hmm, other than the tethering, what does flashing different regions change?
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Could be everything. I don't know. You may lose LTE. Or you could brick your phone altogether if the firmware is not compatible with the AT&T version.
Interesting stuff: I have unlocked Lumia 920 (DevKit I won on MS contest), European version. By arrival, I can't share internet - handset displays standard message "call *611 to enable balh-blah" (BTW, it's stupidest limitation! Greedy bastards from AT&T don't let me share my internet on my own handset, wanna some money for nothing!).
However week later, after installing a bunch of OTA updates from Nokia, one day I've realized - internet sharing is working! I was really happy, tested that option and it works perfect.
But... my happiness didn't last long Two days ago, my Lumia 920 received another OTA from Nokia; after that update, everything "back to normal" (i.e. abnormal!) - same stupid message...
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Interesting stuff: I have unlocked Lumia 920 (DevKit I won on MS contest), European version. By arrival, I can't share internet - handset displays standard message "call *611 to enable balh-blah" (BTW, it's stupidest limitation! Greedy bastards from AT&T don't let me share my internet on my own handset, wanna some money for nothing!).
However week later, after installing a bunch of OTA updates from Nokia, one day I've realized - internet sharing is working! I was really happy, tested that option and it works perfect.
But... my happiness didn't last long Two days ago, my Lumia 920 received another OTA from Nokia; after that update, everything "back to normal" (i.e. abnormal!) - same stupid message...
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The dev kit 920 is a different story. I have one and knew it well. Out of box, it will not allow tethering to AT&T but if you install any foreign language keyboard that requires a download, it will work. That is until Nokia updates 'Access Point' app. Then, you have to try a different keyboard again or you can just ignore and refuse to update 'Access Point' app.
This is different than AT&T branded 920 where there is no known work arounds.
Hey, man, thanks a lot - trick with installing new keyboard that requires a download (I've installed some Chinese input method and removed right after update) works! I've got my internet sharing back
He-he, DevKits are really great handsets!
BTW, could you share some other tricks (if any)? Like an unlocked bootloader or other way to get interop unlock?
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Hey, man, thanks a lot - trick with installing new keyboard that requires a download (I've installed some Chinese input method and removed right after update) works! I've got my internet sharing back
He-he, DevKits are really great handsets!
BTW, could you share some other tricks (if any)? Like an unlocked bootloader or other way to get interop unlock?
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Don't hold your breath. No one has ever managed to unlock the bootloader on any of the lumia series phones.
You can't enable tethering in wp8 without at&t on 920. Unlike on android phone that's rooted.
Hey guys,
I have an unlocked AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 that I am using with a different carrier at the moment. I am still on Windows Phone 8 software and it says there are no updates at this time when I try to update the phone. Can I update it to Amber? Is there an Amber around that works with USA ATT Lumia 920?
Please help me out if you know, I see a lot of threads saying update to Amber but is this for like Europe phones or?
Please include a link if you have one for me to update it the right way.
Appreciate it all, thanks.
Amber has not been released for ATT devices yet. They still have to make their official ATT changes and bloatware before they will release for their devices.
cnile said:
Hey guys,
I have an unlocked AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 that I am using with a different carrier at the moment. I am still on Windows Phone 8 software and it says there are no updates at this time when I try to update the phone. Can I update it to Amber? Is there an Amber around that works with USA ATT Lumia 920?
Please help me out if you know, I see a lot of threads saying update to Amber but is this for like Europe phones or?
Please include a link if you have one for me to update it the right way.
Appreciate it all, thanks.
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You can use AT&T Developer's Devices ROM...
boril said:
You can use AT&T Developer's Devices ROM...
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That is not Amber though and is not supposed to be used by Average Joe Consumer. I suspect someday ATT or Nokia will send a bullet out that will kill all phones running Dev ROMS and are not registered as Dev phones. Dev ROMS allow people to get around certain parts of the system.
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That is not Amber though and is not supposed to be used by Average Joe Consumer. I suspect someday ATT or Nokia will send a bullet out that will kill all phones running Dev ROMS and are not registered as Dev phones. Dev ROMS allow people to get around certain parts of the system.
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hahahahahha hahahahhahah LOL
AT&T Dev Devices are Nokia 920 phones, which where given on BUILD Conf. of Microsof....there is nothing to do with developers unlocked devices, which can be any Windows Phone registered in Microsoft with Developer account. The ROM is clean of any AT&T bull****s and only AT&T Device which has Amber update so far.
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Amber has not been released for ATT devices yet. They still have to make their official ATT changes and bloatware before they will release for their devices.
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It is taking much longer than any other update. I think that they might be skipping GDR2 and going right to GDR3 which is going to be announced with the 1520/whatever they call it towards the end of this month.