Possible D3rp Question: downgrading from JB to ICS - HTC EVO 3D

Hi Guys,
All apologies, I could not find reference to this question anywhere for the HTC Evo 3d forum but my forum foo is not yet strong. So if you'd like to hit me with the D3rp Bat feel free, but provide linky to reference as well if you could.
So I'm going to be upgrading my phone to a Samsung Galaxy Note II and am handing my HTC Evo 3D to my wife. She is entirely new to Android (and smartphones) and I want her experience to be smooth. So given that we're all still playing around with JB and lots of functionality items aren't rock solid or hammered out yet (wifi tether, for ex.) I would like to downgrade her to ICS where I can load a bunch of tried and tested ROMs that I know will be solid for her.
Question: Is there a guide to do this somewhere? I've looked, can't seem to find it.
My understanding is I'll need to reflash the hboot, kernel and rom, am I forgetting anything else? I'm currently running JB kernels and roms and my HBOOT is 1.49.1107 Rev ShooterU. My recovery is TWRP (LOVE twrp!) v2.3.1.0
Also, if I have unlocked the sim will I need to flash the sim unlock file again after downgrading?
Sorry for the nubbin questions.
Thanks folks!

You don't need to change hboot and considering you are s-off you could just flash an ics rom from recovery (after wiping ofc). Then if you want you can change your kernel as well. not sure about the sim unlock though..

EM|NEM said:
You don't need to change hboot and considering you are s-off you could just flash an ics rom from recovery (after wiping ofc). Then if you want you can change your kernel as well. not sure about the sim unlock though..
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You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman for answer me!
I'd need to flash an ICS Kernel too though, yeah? Simlock isn't such a big deal since I can just flash the file again from Hboot if need be. I'm currently running the 3.0.16-poonkang+ kernel but truth be told I'll likely go back to Turge's ICS Rogers build since it was rock solid and I know my wife will be really turned off of the whole smartphone experience if the phone is buggy.
Thanks again man.

The kernel comes with the rom zip file sir. As long as you are s-off there no need to flash the kernel seperately. Just wipe data, flash rom,reboot and you're good to go

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help stuck & confused with rom's and Kernel with Hboot 1.5

Ok I finally got my EVO rooted it has Hboot 1.5
What I would like to know because after hours of searching I have found out if you flash a custom rom you lose 4g and I think wi-fi and neither am I willing to part with.
I was thinking of using clean rom since all I really want to do is get rid of the bloatware. Unless there is a more stable/better rom please let me know.
And exactly how to keep wifi and 4g.
I was on these forums and there is a post that says use flash image gui.
That is one of the most confusing threads I have read. ( I have read it at least a half a dozen times)
So if someone can either give me non confusing instructions or point me in the right direction to do this.
Like I said I am on hboot 1.5.
P.S. all I really want to do is get rid of all the bloatware so if there is a way to do that without flashing a custom rom please feel free to let me know.
P.P.S. Is there a way to have stock kernel with a custom rom so I dont lose 4g & wifi.
Thak you guys for your time and patience.
I used to have an Optimus s with your moms rom on it.
- Yes, click the useful links thread in my signature, go down to around 13], you'll see a link for safe apps to remove. You can do it with Titanium backup or the StockRemoverApp that's listed there.
- I was unlocked on 651.3 Stock, had to "relock" to run the 651.5 Ruu/update & unlock again. There aren't a lot of 651.5 ROM options right now b/c the kernel source hasn't been released. Basically don't run a 651.3 ROM with a 651.5 based phone b/c of the different radios.
- 651.5 stock rooted works well for me, but I'm trying out MeanRom v.6 now. It still has most.of the bloat in it tho, which I removed. Zone23's TrevEzone ROM looks promising, and I've heard FreshRom (i think) is good. These 651.5 Sense based roms currently are stuck with the Stock kernel so everything should work (no 4G in my area to verify).
- it's kind of daunting looking around for stuff here, but I've also got some flashing "scenarios" & info in the ROM/recovery Issues thread (see my signature) that may help u.
Here (posts 1 & 10th ) :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450466
[Solved]Hboot 1.5 Rom/Recovery install issues (fastboot/FlashimageGui/RomMgr) 2-4-12
reaper24 said:
Fresh (rom by flips) is smooth great battery life no issues No bloatware....
I also been liking R82 Eternity 3.0 should give it a shot man. Tho for a stable stockish rom Fresh takes the cake.... On that.
Eternity 3.0 R 82 takes a whole new meaning to HS it's so sweet and smooth and damn smooth lol for some reason never found another rom that ever felt the same as eternity has Both worth trying man....... Virus site infectedrom is a good place to catch up with things in chat and so on...
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If you enter fastboot boot (name of recovery) into a command prompt u can flash a rom and/ or a kernel and not lose 4g or wifi

Gingerbread to ICS (CDMA)

Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Shark_HTC said:
Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If I'm reading right, just search the development forums for an ics rom, flash it and you're good to go. NEVER TAKE OTA
Sent from my EVO 3DMA with a little "Common Sense"
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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coal686 said:
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
Shark_HTC said:
Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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More information > less information :thumbup:
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after downgrading from ICS to GB, my free ram become low from free 380mb on ICS to 222 on GB

New OTA 2.13 Root via HTC Dev

Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
Rxpert said:
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
SoraX64 said:
Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
Sent from my EVO LTE
pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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Been away for a while could use some help

Well... After an issue with the digitizer in my phone I had to finally have it recently replaced. I had recently loaded the ICS OTA and actually for the most part liked it alot. I have rooted and done some roms with my 3d when it was Hboot 1.4 with Rev S off and root method. But my phone is currently Hboot 1.5 after replacing it. I havent loaded it to the OTA for ICS. But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Ive done some searches here and there on the forum. But really after taking time out for a medical issue I havent been in the loop til now. Thanks ahead of time for any help and suggestions you can push my way.
constevens said:
But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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Here's what I would do in your situation:
1. Do HTC unlock and flash 4EXT recovery
2. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of GB stock
3. Root GB stock ROM and do JuopunutBear (wire trick) with GB version to gain S-OFF
4. Flash 2.89 RUU.exe to get solid Sprint ICS base (firmware and software)
5. Flash Jbear Sprint ICS (1.58.5858) or engineering (ENG) bootloader
6. Flash 4EXT recovery (via fastboot flash recovery.img)
7. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of ICS stock
8. Flash whatever ROM's you want to try and check them out
If all the ROM's you are interested in are ICS Sense, then the JB Sprint ICS bootloader is fine, but if you want to flash and run GB and AOSP ROM's the ENG bootloader is a better choice, but it won't run the 2.89 stock kernel.
That's one opinion.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
constevens said:
Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
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The Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2 release with Sense 3.6 is the latest official build, but there have been several CM10 based ROM's released using the AOSP 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean) base, and some Sense 4.0 and 4.1 ROM's that run on the E3D.
My favorites are still MeanROM ICS 2.6 and SOS M 2.6.1 which use the same base. Here's a post I wrote back in May that enumerates the fixes mikeyxda had done to the VM leak base at that time and most of those fixes and enhancements were transferred to the Sprint ICS 2.89 based version, with some new ones added. SOS M is de-Sensed and offers a lot of customization built-in and via the Aroma installer with a minimal amount of effort. Both ROM's are fully functional and have good reliability, performance and battery life.
I've tested a lot of interesting ROM's with some unique features including Paranoid Devil with a tablet configuration option and Charmander with Sense 4, but they both have some stuff not working, including 3D and WiMax/4G. If you don't need those features you might also want to try some of the AOSP ROM's (CM9, CM10 and MIUI) since they are very light and clean, and a lot of the current development activity seems to be with those ROM's. If you want a full ICS Sense 3.6 based ROM with a lot of mods integrated, Cool ICS is worth a look too.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. Im gonna check out the MeanRom ICS, SOS and Cool ICS. In past ive liked a sense based rom but Im open to other stuff. My main thing is wanting as few as issues or non working things as possible. Even the OTA of ICS has to muc issues. But the in general feel and look was good.
Thanks for the input and direction. I may hit you up on some advice if thats cool? Thanks again.
Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
constevens said:
Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
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A lot of the information and links that you will need are in mpgrimm2's guides in this forum. Just do an advanced search on threads started by user mpgrimm2 and you should have most of the information and links you need in those threads.
ramjet73
Thanks you Ramjet!
Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
constevens said:
Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
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This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
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Have more questions but will gladly move it over to the Q and A if you dont mind more questions... So many write ups on stuff.. Little confusing sometimes.
Thanks RamJet.
Here is my questions thread for help in the Q and A section..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31102158#post31102158

[Q] S-Off Clarification and ROM advice

Hi, I rooted last night.
I'm boot unlocked.
S-ON
TWRP 2.6.3 (updated by Goo Manager)
SU User 1.8.6
Unlock took me down to 4.1.1
I tried to flash the most recent CM ROM in Goo Manager after a dalvik cache wipe and got stuck on boot. Is this likely because I'm S-ON or because I didn't use the right type of wipe?
Also, I know the MikMik ROM was the gold standard for a clean, lean and stable ROM without many bells and whistles on OG EVO. What is the equivalent for LTE/jewel? And so I need S-OFF for it?
Thanks in advance!
You have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM when S-on. Having said that, you don't have to be S-off to flash a ROM, but, as easy as the process is, it's worth it to be S-off. Take a look at the top link in my sig for more info. As for ROM advice, just start flashing until you find what you like. If you ask ten different people what their favorite is, you'll likely get ten different answers
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Something equivalent I'd say "MeanBean " read the OP for this rom
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Thank you!
Thank you. I was finally starting to understand that I would probably need to S-Off so I could flash the kernel for a ROM other than one that uses a stock kernel. I was just hoping to avoid it, because I usually know just enough to be dangerous to my electronic devices...
I'll be sure to check out Mean Bean.
Mean Bean actually has a kernel installer to make flashing while S-on easier. Just make sure you read the Mean Bean OP so you follow the correct steps to get it installed properly.
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