Well... After an issue with the digitizer in my phone I had to finally have it recently replaced. I had recently loaded the ICS OTA and actually for the most part liked it alot. I have rooted and done some roms with my 3d when it was Hboot 1.4 with Rev S off and root method. But my phone is currently Hboot 1.5 after replacing it. I havent loaded it to the OTA for ICS. But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Ive done some searches here and there on the forum. But really after taking time out for a medical issue I havent been in the loop til now. Thanks ahead of time for any help and suggestions you can push my way.
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But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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Here's what I would do in your situation:
1. Do HTC unlock and flash 4EXT recovery
2. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of GB stock
3. Root GB stock ROM and do JuopunutBear (wire trick) with GB version to gain S-OFF
4. Flash 2.89 RUU.exe to get solid Sprint ICS base (firmware and software)
5. Flash Jbear Sprint ICS (1.58.5858) or engineering (ENG) bootloader
6. Flash 4EXT recovery (via fastboot flash recovery.img)
7. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of ICS stock
8. Flash whatever ROM's you want to try and check them out
If all the ROM's you are interested in are ICS Sense, then the JB Sprint ICS bootloader is fine, but if you want to flash and run GB and AOSP ROM's the ENG bootloader is a better choice, but it won't run the 2.89 stock kernel.
That's one opinion.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
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Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
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The Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2 release with Sense 3.6 is the latest official build, but there have been several CM10 based ROM's released using the AOSP 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean) base, and some Sense 4.0 and 4.1 ROM's that run on the E3D.
My favorites are still MeanROM ICS 2.6 and SOS M 2.6.1 which use the same base. Here's a post I wrote back in May that enumerates the fixes mikeyxda had done to the VM leak base at that time and most of those fixes and enhancements were transferred to the Sprint ICS 2.89 based version, with some new ones added. SOS M is de-Sensed and offers a lot of customization built-in and via the Aroma installer with a minimal amount of effort. Both ROM's are fully functional and have good reliability, performance and battery life.
I've tested a lot of interesting ROM's with some unique features including Paranoid Devil with a tablet configuration option and Charmander with Sense 4, but they both have some stuff not working, including 3D and WiMax/4G. If you don't need those features you might also want to try some of the AOSP ROM's (CM9, CM10 and MIUI) since they are very light and clean, and a lot of the current development activity seems to be with those ROM's. If you want a full ICS Sense 3.6 based ROM with a lot of mods integrated, Cool ICS is worth a look too.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. Im gonna check out the MeanRom ICS, SOS and Cool ICS. In past ive liked a sense based rom but Im open to other stuff. My main thing is wanting as few as issues or non working things as possible. Even the OTA of ICS has to muc issues. But the in general feel and look was good.
Thanks for the input and direction. I may hit you up on some advice if thats cool? Thanks again.
Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
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Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
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A lot of the information and links that you will need are in mpgrimm2's guides in this forum. Just do an advanced search on threads started by user mpgrimm2 and you should have most of the information and links you need in those threads.
ramjet73
Thanks you Ramjet!
Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
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Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
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This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
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Have more questions but will gladly move it over to the Q and A if you dont mind more questions... So many write ups on stuff.. Little confusing sometimes.
Thanks RamJet.
Here is my questions thread for help in the Q and A section..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31102158#post31102158
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So I am a somewhat new tech savvy root happy android user. I was so impatient to wait for ICS, that I flashed my phone yesterday. I tried to post in the thread for the new release, but being a new user, I was unable.
Anyway, is there any possible way to get root on this latest build? Con and some others were working on some stuff, according to what they posted in the thread, but it has been dead for a few days. I would like to S-Off, but apparently I can't go back to 3.14.605.05 to do it. Has anyone had any success achieving root on this new build? I did unlock hboot with htcdev again after flashing, but that is as far as I can go. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Flash recovery, install a rooted rom like mine or cleanrom for example, then do S-OFF. Hboot hasn't changed so they haven't patched S-OFF
Ok
I thought the roms were slaves to firmware in which they were created, i.e. a 605.05 rom could not run on the 605.10 If so, I didn't see your 605.10 rom, could you direct me? I already have Amon Ra installed, so I am good there. Also, his original post with the S-Off toolkit said to only use on 605.05, and didn't know if it would work on 605.10, even if I could achieve root. Thanks in advance for all your help, I've found your replies to other users to be most helpful in untangling the web of android modding in my mind.
Also, one more questions. I made a nandroid backup before I upgraded to ICS. Is that backup essentially useless unless I get S-Off and go back to the firmware that I created that backup on?
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"This is a stock, rooted, debloated version of the new 3.14.605.10 leak. This is the only 3.14.605.10 based ROM with APM, Tweaks, Aroma Installer, and Aroma based Sense and De-Sense! It was also the first to have working root."
Sorry, was so busy reading everything else in the thread, I completely missed that. So I guess I need to install your Rom first, and still use the PH98IMG.zip because I am not S-Off? After that, I should have root and will be able to S-Off?
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"This is a stock, rooted, debloated version of the new 3.14.605.10 leak. This is the only 3.14.605.10 based ROM with APM, Tweaks, Aroma Installer, and Aroma based Sense and De-Sense! It was also the first to have working root."
Sorry, was so busy reading everything else in the thread, I completely missed that. So I guess I need to install your Rom first, and still use the PH98IMG.zip because I am not S-Off? After that, I should have root and will be able to S-Off?
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Also interested in this. I'm on stock rooted 3.14.605.05 because I was trying to get s off, which failed miserably.
Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If I'm reading right, just search the development forums for an ics rom, flash it and you're good to go. NEVER TAKE OTA
Sent from my EVO 3DMA with a little "Common Sense"
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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coal686 said:
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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More information > less information :thumbup:
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after downgrading from ICS to GB, my free ram become low from free 380mb on ICS to 222 on GB
Hey guys, I love the EVOLTE so far, but sense is slowing it down way to much, so I'd like to get CM10 nightly on it. A few questions:
1) I'm on Hboot 1.9, so I assume I can't go S-OFF yet, can I install CM10 with S-ON?
2) What do I need to do first before I can reach these steps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417266&postcount=1397
3) From the CMX zip, all I need is the boot.img right?
4) This video seems to be what I need to do, but not knowing any of these terms is providing a stumbling block http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdHQsYhb-Fw&list=UU7YzoWkkb6woYwCnbWLn3ZA&index=60&feature=plcp
Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I apologize if my search through the forums didn't find the links I need.
- a noob
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Hey guys, I love the EVOLTE so far, but sense is slowing it down way to much, so I'd like to get CM10 nightly on it. A few questions:
1) I'm on Hboot 1.9, so I assume I can't go S-OFF yet, can I install CM10 with S-ON?
2) What do I need to do first before I can reach these steps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417266&postcount=1397
3) From the CMX zip, all I need is the boot.img right?
4) This video seems to be what I need to do, but not knowing any of these terms is providing a stumbling block http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdHQsYhb-Fw&list=UU7YzoWkkb6woYwCnbWLn3ZA&index=60&feature=plcp
Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I apologize if my search through the forums didn't find the links I need.
- a noob
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1) Nope, you cant get S-OFF
2) Root the device?
3) Yes, fastboot flash your kernel (boot.img) http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
You'll need to use HTC dev to root. Regawmods rooter might work as well
lifeofsilence said:
Hey guys, I love the EVOLTE so far, but sense is slowing it down way to much, so I'd like to get CM10 nightly on it. A few questions:
1) I'm on Hboot 1.9, so I assume I can't go S-OFF yet, can I install CM10 with S-ON?
2) What do I need to do first before I can reach these steps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29417266&postcount=1397
3) From the CMX zip, all I need is the boot.img right?
4) This video seems to be what I need to do, but not knowing any of these terms is providing a stumbling block http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdHQsYhb-Fw&list=UU7YzoWkkb6woYwCnbWLn3ZA&index=60&feature=plcp
Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I apologize if my search through the forums didn't find the links I need.
- a noob
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My best advice is to read the information posted, read the how to's and read threads where people have failed, this is the best way youre going to learn, videos can help but often times the person assumes you have some knowledge and that causes problems. dont youtube anything without learning what you can here
I honestly think the best guide on the net for what you need to know is posted here
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte...panda-s-htc-dev-ltevo-root-dummies-guide.html
I'm on hboot 1.9 s-on running synergy. What I did was first unlock the phone through HTC dev... Once unlocked I then dled twrp 2.2.0 and flashed the IMG through fastboot. After that did a nandroid backup and then flashed latest version of supersu through twrp to gain root access. I then dled Flash Image GUI (playstore app) which this helps for flashing kernals instead of doing through fastboot. When done flashing whatever kernal for watever Rom you choose which I'm sure cm10 you then go into recovery and flash the Rom like normal. One thing though I remember reading something about flashing a aosp or aokp kernal over a sense one could brick ur phone but look into that and you'll be all set. Hope it helps.
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Hi Guys,
All apologies, I could not find reference to this question anywhere for the HTC Evo 3d forum but my forum foo is not yet strong. So if you'd like to hit me with the D3rp Bat feel free, but provide linky to reference as well if you could.
So I'm going to be upgrading my phone to a Samsung Galaxy Note II and am handing my HTC Evo 3D to my wife. She is entirely new to Android (and smartphones) and I want her experience to be smooth. So given that we're all still playing around with JB and lots of functionality items aren't rock solid or hammered out yet (wifi tether, for ex.) I would like to downgrade her to ICS where I can load a bunch of tried and tested ROMs that I know will be solid for her.
Question: Is there a guide to do this somewhere? I've looked, can't seem to find it.
My understanding is I'll need to reflash the hboot, kernel and rom, am I forgetting anything else? I'm currently running JB kernels and roms and my HBOOT is 1.49.1107 Rev ShooterU. My recovery is TWRP (LOVE twrp!) v2.3.1.0
Also, if I have unlocked the sim will I need to flash the sim unlock file again after downgrading?
Sorry for the nubbin questions.
Thanks folks!
You don't need to change hboot and considering you are s-off you could just flash an ics rom from recovery (after wiping ofc). Then if you want you can change your kernel as well. not sure about the sim unlock though..
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You don't need to change hboot and considering you are s-off you could just flash an ics rom from recovery (after wiping ofc). Then if you want you can change your kernel as well. not sure about the sim unlock though..
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You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman for answer me!
I'd need to flash an ICS Kernel too though, yeah? Simlock isn't such a big deal since I can just flash the file again from Hboot if need be. I'm currently running the 3.0.16-poonkang+ kernel but truth be told I'll likely go back to Turge's ICS Rogers build since it was rock solid and I know my wife will be really turned off of the whole smartphone experience if the phone is buggy.
Thanks again man.
The kernel comes with the rom zip file sir. As long as you are s-off there no need to flash the kernel seperately. Just wipe data, flash rom,reboot and you're good to go
Running Venom's Viper3D ROM right now (which is an amazing ROM by the way) and I was looking for some different ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love Sense, but there's always a time for change. I was wondering if people could point me in the right direction to some really good AOSP, AOKP, & MIUI ROMs that could be used on the daily. Any help would be much appreciated. I've looked and looked but there are just so many out there. Possibly deodexed and themeable would be great. 3D and 4G not working isn't really an issue as I don't use 3D and I can't use 4G cause I'm in Akron. I'm not saying I'm ever gonna leave Viper3D, its just I wanna get into the dual/multi booting and I want some good, clean ROMs to run.
My phone specs are:
rooted using htcdev
jbear's 1.585858
radio 1.09------
TheKnux said:
Running Venom's Viper3D ROM right now (which is an amazing ROM by the way) and I was looking for some different ROMs. Don't get me wrong, I love Sense, but there's always a time for change. I was wondering if people could point me in the right direction to some really good AOSP, AOKP, & MIUI ROMs that could be used on the daily. Any help would be much appreciated. I've looked and looked but there are just so many out there. Possibly deodexed and themeable would be great. 3D and 4G not working isn't really an issue as I don't use 3D and I can't use 4G cause I'm in Akron. I'm not saying I'm ever gonna leave Viper3D, its just I wanna get into the dual/multi booting and I want some good, clean ROMs to run.
My phone specs are:
rooted using htcdev
jbear's 1.585858
radio 1.09------
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If your gonna flash an AOSP based ROM, your gonna have to downgrade your hboot to 1.4 or 1.5.
Flash an AOSP ROM
I personally use TeamJB's Gangman style. Hope that helped.
The Viper3D ROM I'm running now is about 600+mb in size and I've seen that CM's are only about 200. I'm left with 400mb system space to install apps and I would like a bit more. I'm trying to steer away from a senseless ROM, but I know that might not be possible if switching to another ROM. I've downgraded to the engineering 1.4 boot loader before and had to flash the stock ROM just because most ROMs that I'm into have to be running 1.58. I just don't wanna downgrade to a 1.4 hboot and be screwed with a non-working phone. I know that I can always upgrade back to the 1.58 hboot but I'm just trying to find a good ROM to flash using the least steps as possible.
A thread has been set aside by the mods for asking about ROMs. Papa Smurf usually locks others. I'd ask here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950596
How do I have them move/remove it if its already been asked somewhere else?
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How do I have them move/remove it if its already been asked somewhere else?
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I'd copy and paste your original request to the ROM discussion thread then just use the report button to request this thread be closed.
So there's no way to keep this thread open to opinions?
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So there's no way to keep this thread open to opinions?
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That's up to the moderators. If this thread gets closed, the one that coal linked has been approved by the moderators for getting information about ROM's, but not to discuss what is the "best" ROM.
ramjet73