Is it possible to overclock the Adreno 130 GPU of the HTC Hero? Like with the SGS2 you can overclock the Mali400
I dont think so, since i believe Adreno 130 is not a real GPU like an actual chip, but a part of the CPU that does some GPU functions so we are very restricted...
That makes sense.
Thank you
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I think it's possible, but would not recommend doing so.
If i am not mistaken our heros work at 576 MHz by default. Changing the value to a higher one could damage the phone, as greater frequencies require more cooling and our heros were not made to deal with that.
Overclocking also means a faster battery drain.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
mickro said:
I think it's possible, but would not recommend doing so.
If i am not mistaken our heros work at 576 MHz by default. Changing the value to a higher one could damage the phone, as greater frequencies require more cooling and our heros were not made to deal with that.
Overclocking also means a faster battery drain.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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That is CPU, he is asking GPU, btw I can OC my Hero to 672 MHz CPU without any damage
kemoba said:
That is CPU, he is asking GPU, btw I can OC my Hero to 672 MHz CPU without any damage
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Oh, Thank you then (still a newb here)
But doesn't a hero at 672 MHz cause a faster battery drain?
mickro said:
Oh, Thank you then (still a newb here)
But doesn't a hero at 672 MHz cause a faster battery drain?
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It does, but i like speed over battery, it can still last a day or two
Related
www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/06/01/qualcomm-adobe-optimize-flash-for-snapdragon-powered-android-phones/
Saw this article today that indicates qualcomm is working with adobe to bring flash to the msm7x27 chipset.
Awesome
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Nice....
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Pretty interesting news
but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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but will the 800mhz thingy be the thing that limits us?
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Overclocking may be a solution?
These are really great news. I hope we will get flash as soon as possible. Let's see how these things will go.
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Sounds like it may be hardware accelerated. Hopefully it is because my nook with an a8 CPU at 1.2ghz has issues playing 480p flash videos without hardware acceleration. Would imagine my optimus overclocked at 806mhz would have issues with 360p flash videos without hardware acceleration.
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
Jaani said:
Good news but how will we get 800mhz on O1???It should be possible bcoz if not how Sam Ace & Gio are running on that speed!!!
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
doktornotor said:
You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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Well, sometime you can get 800MHz. But overclocking is strange device dependent. So, somebody have 768 very stable you, but somebody can have 800 and somebody have some problems also on 710 like me for example.
I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
Good news people let's wait and see...
Nice! I have been waiting for this from long time ago.
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I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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it is possible but for most peoples ROM anything past 787 will give a kernel error and reboot the phone the only ROMi got it to work on was Megatron ROM
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On Spica Max Neocore output was 7 fps and on o1 its 63 fps currently.
Even than I could play games like ninjump and mx moto.
So what difference would be there in performance even if we can clock till 768-787 and not 806.
Will the flash not run because our clock speed is 787 and not 800?
I hope people are getting what I am asking. When our o1 can handle things like Neocore 63 fps, 1gb ext partition, multi format video playback, then why would it be difficult to run flash on 787 instead of 800 even when flash would be optimized for our kind of processors?
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Awesome news. Hope we get it soon.
More or less flash should work on or device even at 600mhz, the real issue is to optimize it for our chip set instructions.
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I believe the ARM1176 processor is designed to 800 MHz for my LG Optimus V.
Not sure that everyone else is running the same processor, but I think there are two speeds for the ARM v.6, all flavors, which is 800 MHz and 1GHz. The cell manufacturers lower the speed to conserve power and I'm certain buy the less expensive 800 MHz version.
So everyones CPU should be 800 MHz capable...that does not mean that the memory I/O can take a similar speed up - I don't know exactly what is being sped up with the CPU overclock, but the CPU itself shouldn't have any issues. If it is the system clock, then the I/O is already being timed appropriately and a speed up is overclock for it, but 800 MHz is not an overclock for the CPU.
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I hope so i wonder if our Froyo(O1lg) kernel source varies greatly with Ace's kernel code ...SoC chipset is the same msm7227 for other devices code wud vary but the vga and other arm(assembly) code must be the same..If any kernel developers cud please look into it
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You probably will not. 768MHz is completely stable here though, anything above that => not good.
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Exactly. And even if there was a way to run flash on O1, I wouldn't bother with it myself. It would only slow down the phone and kill the battery life in two seconds.. I really, really don't understand what the big deal about this is. Low-budget phone, no flash. End of discussion lol.
I know that Wikipedia is not the most reliable source but it says that Ace's CPU i s overclocked. Is it?
Can it be overclocked to 1Ghz?
i actually wrote that in wikipedia
well, the Ace's CPU is a Qualcomm MSM7227 which originally runs at 600 MHz. but it can also run in "Turbo" mode at 800 MHz, which is the the case for the SGA.
whether it can be overclocked, i leave that to the experts to answer
This means that, as it is overclocked, it consumes more power and will last shorter than phones with CPU’s not being overclocked.
palito1980 said:
This means that, as it is overclocked, it consumes more power and will last shorter than phones with CPU’s not being overclocked.
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Jeah, probably you right, but it depends A LOT of kernel. If kernel configured RIGHT, then it can MAYBE(I SAY MAYBE), consume LESS battery(Still it depends ALL phone hardware IT SELF and MUCH more things)!
CHEERS!
Is there a way to overclock the Adreno 220 GPU that I consider to be laying dormant as of now inside the HTC EVO 3D and Sensation? I read some of post the the Desire HD section that mentioned they were jealous that the sensation already got a GPU overclock but they didn't provide a link and my searches have come up with nothing. If I could, I would post a link, but I didn't find anything. If anyone could provide a hit of clarity or insight into this topic, please do.
there is already a thread requesting that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285205
here is the sensation kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Dear god I wouldn't do that. The adreno 220 is a very good gpu. I think it's the fastest one commercially available.
Plus I've had a bad history with gpu overclocking. I tried overclocking my ATI 4820 and it just ended up not working at all
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
well thank you for redirecting me, and i was hoping somebody would have made some sort of app as was done for the Samsung GSII, but thank you nonetheless
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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From every ROM I've ever seen they never say the GPU has been overclocked. That requires Kernel modified.
Everything I've seen states "GPU Tweaks" which I believe only means they've tweaked the amount of memory allocated or the MPAA settings. Which is just a simple prop edit.
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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hao pley?
lol serious question.
>.<
mahbad
sometimes I post drivel
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how is this thread going ?
I would really much like to see the possibility to overclock the adreno 220 because I think we can gain a lot of preformance in games etc..
hope someone looks in to it
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
deadlocked007 said:
Umm its been here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
It overclocks the gpu to either 300 mhz or 320
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is this gonna work on Europe version?
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Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
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qualcomm spec was 320MHz max (for HW001 and HW002)
i have 2 kernels - 1 @ 300 and 1 @ 320
How the andrino 220 stack up now,compare to the iphone 4S one and the mali 400,any answers will be greatly appreciated.
I am looking to buy a new phone,i don't like iphones,my current one is a Vibrant,so i am thinking about the Galaxys 2 from T mobile.
But since it use a 1.5 qualcoom cpu and andreno 220 GPU i don't know,since i don't know that GPU well,i don't know if it is weak or not,i love the Vibrant GPU it was quite ahead of anything until the Tegra 2 arrived.
Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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I have see some performance test and at least vs the Mali 400 which the other galaxy have is actually the slowest,i actually have read some reviews that say the T mobile one is the weakest performance wise thanks to the Adreno 220,but saw some text in which the Adreno was faster than the Tegra 2.
Since i am looking to buy a T mobile galaxy S i am trying to get the most research to see if i get it or not.
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This thread is purely a discussion about our phone's processor ability to be overclocked.
Does anyone here have any idea how our beloved xperia mini/minipro/lww processor can be clock as high as 2GHz as opposed to its default clock speed(1GHz)? If you carefully goes beyond our phone subforums into the realms other phone you can see that much of the phone there can't be overclock as high as our phone can go. Eg; other phone with 1GHz processor can only be overclock to 1.3GHz.
Any ideas? Developers facts can be very helpful.
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Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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XperianPro said:
Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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I've tried 2GHz on my phone, seems to be okay w/o any instability issue.
Fortunately our phone isn't maxed out at 1.3GHz, almost all kernel for our phone support up to 2GHz, what I meant is, phone like x10 seems to be maxed out at 1.3GHz. Just small increment from 1GHz to 1.3. While our phone can go all the way up from 1GHz to 2GHz doubling its default clock speed.
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i've only tried to run benchmarks on my phone up to 1.6GHz,
did not try higher speeds because i am worried about the CPU might break...
as per x kernel latest release, they have set the limit to just 1.8GHz.
seems that would be the safest our CPUs would reach but still its not same for all units.
i am not completely aware about the technical specifics of the CPU but it seems that it could have been made that way.
the only thing that would limit the CPU capabilities is the temperature and the battery capacity, since running an overclocked CPU on a 1200mAh battery is not that efficient.
You're not exactly correct OP.
My Active, with the OC Spartan kernel, goes up to 2Ghz on my device and its perfectly stable.
On my Desire Z however, stock Mhz is 800, and i have oc'd it to 1.9Ghz stable, thats over 140% (russian election pun not intended ) oc. It is one of the most highly overclockable devices yet.
So it's not only our devices that go to 100% of stock speeds. Ill remind you that companies, take some "malfuncioning" processor chips that might have a specific part of them not working, lower their speeds to make them stable chips, and then ship them out to manufacturing.
That is why some devices dont go over 1.9Ghz. Its just a matter of quality of the CPU. I know this because back in the days of the ATI9500, which was actually a ATI9700Pro, just underclocked because a pipeline was malfunctioning, so instead of throwing them away, they locked the pipeline and sold them as a lower budget Video Card. With some tools though you could unlock the pipeline and if you were lucky you could have an ATI9700Pro in the price of a ATI9500
I have one question while we are on this topic.
Our phones have MSM8225 chipset while the Arc S has MSM8255T (clocked at 1.4 GHz). I'm curious, is there any noticeable difference between these two chipsets? If there isn't why aren't our phones clocked at 1GHz?
The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
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The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
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You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
ginryu said:
You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
ginryu said:
Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
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What I ment, was that the actual maximal overclock frequency, where you can set it, is set by kernel developer.
You can set the CPU max frequency 1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, whatever. But the really maximum, which you can set, for example 2Ghz in Rage Kernel, 1.8Ghz in X Kernel, is set by kernel developer.
It is not tested that phone can put up with that high frequency. That is your own responsibility to try and risk.
Imagine cpus being made like cookies.Although you use the same ingredients not all cookies are baked the same, not matter how good your oven is.Cpus get out of the "oven" and tested for stability.The less stable are clocked lower, the more stable higher and that depends from the voltage they need to run and the maximum safe temperature that is allowed so the chip can last long time.So they say that chips which fall between A and B specifications (temp voltage etc...) are going to clocked to 1 GHz and those that range between C and D to 1.4 GHz.But those who are close to A are not the same as B, same with C and D.That's why some cpus clock better than others even though they're clocked at the same speed.At least that's how computer cpus were made if i recall correctly.
Its marketing trick.
Why should I buy WT19i when I can buy Arc S with higher clock rate.
Same processor because if processor is diffrent they would need to make new S1Boot,if in arc s is new bootloader patch wont work.
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is there any option to raise SGS3 CPU to 2000mhz or something like that?
EDIT: NEW AS 14/7
kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
is there any need to overclock this beast lol its fast enough
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not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
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He wasn't referring to getting more RAM though was he? It read to me that he wanted to see if was possible to increase the clock speed of the RAM along with the CPU.
yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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Already there OC/UV running 1500Mhz right now. Max 1800Mhz.
Look into de developers topics for the kernel..
Ive looked there.. stiil misunderstand something-
there is any OC of 2000mhz now?
Note that the Exynos 4Core CPU is still not very well understood and may well get long-time damage when ramping up the clock speed aggressively.
Is there actually ANY need for going so high except to show off?
You'll be measuring any speed improvement in loading things up in microseconds because people say Samsung still hasn't fully optimised the phone to the OS yet, so I think it's a bit pointless stressing the phone that much.
1.8GHZ is currently the max however with kmemhelper you should be able to change the last frequency to 2.0...
Hell I'll even find out the script for you if you are mad enough to try it first
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I doubt you'll get it 2GHz stable anyway. From what I've heard most people have theirs crap out at 1.8GHz.
kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
to make it clear:
i wanna know which ram overclocking is available to do on the SGS3 as long as the device still stables.
same with GPU and all those stuff.. there is a really good lvl of OC like in S1 S2?
still waiting for help
I would go for Siyah kernel and try 1.8 GHz then under volt using voltage control or extweaks app. Most phones can go 100 mv on all steps except maybe the very highest clocks.
gpu overclock is not possible yet
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OC of the ram is connected to bus speed and this is very different to the fixed bus in the sgs1 so nothing like live oc is possible. Still 400 mhz bus speed is 4 times faster than the CHAt!
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I`am running RGUI v7 rom and siyah kernel 1.3.8a. My clockspeed is 1600 Mhz and is rockstable, snappy and battery life is great.
I don`t go any higher for daily use, it doesn`t make much difference in speed and i think it cuts down your cpu-life.
ho so no LIVE OC is available now? (like in S1 and s2)?
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
My Captivate (SGS1) can hit 1.92GHz... So I think that a CPU with a stock clock of 1.4GHz can hit 2GHz easily. We will just have to see. I am not pushing this phone though. I don't have $700 to replace it.
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
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That's not depended on the ROM but on whether the hardware allows to modify the values and if kernel developers figure out how to do it.