Any reason to skip the Note II besides the money? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

My biggest issue is the money , the only thing that the note 2 has is the newer OS and multitasking and slightly larger screen size , Im assuming you can root, and or custom recovery /boot loader / rom with the Note , having said that , is it a better deal ,? I can see getting a refurb of this model ,49 bucks as opposed to a new note 2 at $250

Little features here and there. Slightly better screen, faster but nothing rooting can't cure. Im in no rush to upgrade
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My biggest issue is the money , the only thing that the note 2 has is the newer OS and multitasking and slightly larger screen size , Im assuming you can root, and or custom recovery /boot loader / rom with the Note , having said that , is it a better deal ,? I can see getting a refurb of this model ,49 bucks as opposed to a new note 2 at $250
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if your a first time buyer... for you I would say the Note 2...
Money is the issue as you said, and myself personally cannot stand the switch to 16:9 from 16:10..
BUT, for almost everything else, its worth it... going from the crappy S3 that powers the i717 (the US branded versions at least) to Samsungs own chip... an extra GB of ram and so much more in the software department (the AT&T GNotes ICS is a plagued beast... runs like trash comparatively)...
The Notification LED (why the hell they didnt have it in the OG note is beyond me), the bigger SPen...
TBQH, the ONLY thing I dont like about the Galaxy Note 2 is the change in aspect ratio and loss of PPI due to it... thats it! Nothing else can I dislike about it...

A reason to skip it besides money? The Note 2 being more narrow and a lower resolution are the only things I can think of (like Hammerfest mentioned). Since you don't even have the Note 1, you should be fine.

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joe3681 said:
Little features here and there. Slightly better screen, faster but nothing rooting can't cure. Im in no rush to upgrade
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A reason to skip it besides money? The Note 2 being more narrow and a lower resolution are the only things I can think of (like Hammerfest mentioned). Since you don't even have the Note 1, you should be fine.
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For my two pennies. I say passing up on a Note i717 , would be a mistake, let alone avoiding Note 2. Lots of GREAT offerings can be found in this neck of the woods.

No one has suggested he pass up on both... It's an "either or" question. So the only reason to get the Note 1 over the 2 would be because of the size (narrow), aspect ratio (decreased), pixel density (decreased), and price... but the OP said not to consider the price difference.

The reason I say this ,is rom development and kernal development , I mean I couldnt tell ya when the last time I had something stock was, ,stock lasts about a week on phones and tablets for me, my current phone is Samsung Focus 1st gen Win7 phone with the 7.8 rom on it , its a nice phone ,however the screen size is too small and yes Ive considered the Nokia 920 , but rom development is really slow ,Microsoft wont release the api's so its a difficult learning curve , my Table is an Acer a500 its running ICS right now and I continually change out roms , the price point is an issue , I can get the nokia 920 as an upgrade for like 50 bucks and the OG Note for 150 , I just think in terms of how far can I stretch the technology (my phone and tab are examples) , sure the latest and greatest are fun if I had the money but I dont , the screen is what gives it away for me , just seeing it is enough to make me a believer (plus I have big hands )!

I think if you are concerned about ROMs then you may be better off with the Note 1. It seems to me that the Note 2 is heavy on Touchwiz (Spen and multitasking), and you could potentially blow all that out of the water with a ROM. Plus, the Note 2 is divided into so many different variants that development may take a hit depending on the popularity of the one you end up buying.

BlackZenith states my point of view much better than I. i717, large and in charge, for some time now. Proven reliability, tonnes of groundwork laid thanks to the hard work of all the DEVS around here, some super sweet ROM/mod offerings. No signs of slowing, perhaps just at it's beginning. Very grateful to be enjoying it all.

I have a note l and from my look at the note ll if you can afford I would go with the ll. I like the larger pen a lot and with what I see as close to the end in development for note1 the whiz people will switch there talents over to the ll.

Note3
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Vintage144 said:
My biggest issue is the money , the only thing that the note 2 has is the newer OS and multitasking and slightly larger screen size , Im assuming you can root, and or custom recovery /boot loader / rom with the Note , having said that , is it a better deal ,? I can see getting a refurb of this model ,49 bucks as opposed to a new note 2 at $250
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I have the OG note and love it but im passing on the note 2 (even though I have an upgrade) because next year is the year of the 1080p screens on phones...and the note 3 should be very attractive if thats the case... Ill just save my upgrade and get the already subsidized nexus 4 from Google to keep the cravings for new phones down lol
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I have the OG note and love it but im passing on the note 2 (even though I have an upgrade) because next year is the year of the 1080p screens on phones...and the note 3 should be very attractive if thats the case... Ill just save my upgrade and get the already subsidized nexus 4 from Google to keep the cravings for new phones down lol
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At first, I was going to flip my OG Note for the Note 2. But, I decided to wait this one out. My OG Note is running FJ's AOSPxXx-ICS ROM right now and it feels good. I can only imagine how a custom CM based JB ROM will feel like (waiting for the source to be released, before I flash a JB ROM now) With that around the corner, that's why I'd rather wait to see what the Note 3 or the S4 for that matter (talks of a 5" screen on it...which I could do). Technology changes so quickly...devices are old before the ink dries on the manifest.
So if I were you, go with Note 2...

If money weren't an object, I would go with the Note II. The battery life alone seals the deal for me. Add in the processor and improved S-Pen apps and its the obvious choice to me.
Now, I have the Note I and am very happy. Development is strong and we have a new base for TW ROMs coming from the gt7005. JB will come soon enough and well have most of the features of the Note II.
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Note 2 is great.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"

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Samsung Galaxy S4 - Will you be upgrading?

I think at this point, if you have a Note 1, you're off contract or at least upgrade eligible. I was wowed by the HTC One, and looking forward to the event last night for the S4, but I was looking for a more significant hardware change. Samsung seems to be more interested in adding more and more features, but none of them were "must haves" for me. I'll be going with the HTC One for my next phone, and will keep my Note for work.
If this is the S4, the Note 3 will likely just be a larger version, probably around 5.8 inches.
Ironically, Samsung seems to be following in Apple's footsteps - they've found success with a particular design, so they have no impetus to push it forward, while HTC is designing some pretty amazing things, partly because they've always done that, but mostly because they need to do so.
When I saw the S4, I immediately thought of Samsung's dig at the iPhone 4S in one ad - "If it looks exactly the same as the last model, how will people know I upgraded?"
Plus, with all of that software, I doubt the S4 will get Key Lime Pie in the same year it's released.
Here's hoping for a $99 Note 2 in the near future.
I'll be getting the s4, the s3 has a ton of dev support and I'm sure the s4 will have just as much.
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Honestly, no, while I love my Note, I don't like the look of the the S IV or Note 2. I don't like the button and I want something that looks like it's awesome. I've been eying the HTC One quite a bit and as the HTC Hero was my first Android device it seems only fair that I go with them. However I don't want to go down on screen size. I'm not greedy enough for Huweai's (sp?) 6.3 inch screen, but definitely no less than the OG Note's screen. However the final deciding factor for me is how the whole JB thing has paned out. If I'm spending premium $$$ then I want the best for my money's worth, and that means the latest and greatest software. I'm not a mindless consumer that doesn't demand the best bang for my buck. Not only do I demand it, I also put my money where my mouth is.
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Honestly, no, while I love my Note, I don't like the look of the the S IV or Note 2. I don't like the button and I want something that looks like it's awesome. I've been eying the HTC One quite a bit and as the HTC Hero was my first Android device it seems only fair that I go with them. However I don't want to go down on screen size. I'm not greedy enough for Huweai's (sp?) 6.3 inch screen, but definitely no less than the OG Note's screen. However the final deciding factor for me is how the whole JB thing has paned out. If I'm spending premium $$$ then I want the best for my money's worth, and that means the latest and greatest software. I'm not a mindless consumer that doesn't demand the best bang for my buck. Not only do I demand it, I also put my money where my mouth is.
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Same here...
In not thrilled on the look but im tired of the og note and im sure there will be a ton of Dev support on it like most galaxy phones. I think the ONE is cool looking but I need a phone with removable battery and SD slot. The ONE doesn't have that so that's a no.
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I'd have to agree with a couple of the posts above - the button doesn't excite me one bit. At the same time however, the Note isn't starving for power though. I know the Note 2 and S4 have much better hardware, but I just don't need it right now. We'll see what the Note 3 has in store for us, and then I'll go from there. For once though, I don't feel I *need* to upgrade.
I almost hate to say it, but I agree. This is the second time I've been burned by samsung (OG captivate owner) and I think I've learned my lesson here. The S4 does have some nice software features, but it didn't wow me as opposed to the S3 over the S2.
I think i'm waiting for the new Nexus phone or possibly the rumored Moto X phone. No replaceable battery or Micro SD is a deal breaker for me so I'm hoping at least one of the phones above support that though i'm not holding my breath on the nexus.
I love the speed of the JB roms, I just wish we had the drivers to have the roms stable. I gotta say that HTC did a great job with the One, if that thing had SD and removable battery, it would have been a grand slam.
MWC this year should be interesting.
Why don't you guys like the button? I don't mind it at all, to be honest. The super thin bezel is sweet too
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If Nexus came out with a larger than 5 inch screen I'd jump right on it. Until something like that happen I'm going to keep on watching who treats their customers right and when it's upgrade time that's who'll get my money. I'm in love with the stylus and the screen size of the Note, but customer loyalty is a big factor when it comes to spending my shekels. You treat me good and I'll spend good money.
As far as why I don't like the button, it just seems old school and takes away from the elegance I want for $200 + device. And as far as the unremovable battery and lack of sd card slot...I can deal with that because you can't even really move apps to the sd card any more. And my N7 is the same way and we get along marvelously. All in all it's a preference thing.
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Considering the Note 3 comes out in September with a 6.3" screen I'll just wait for that. Got the note 1 in August so I can upgrade my phone when it comes out.
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Considering the Note 3 comes out in September with a 6.3" screen I'll just wait for that. Got the note 1 in August so I can upgrade my phone when it comes out.
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This^
I don't see any reason to upgrade just to have the newest thing. (Think about it SERIOUSLY. The "S" phones are Samsungs fanboy phone really. This is the phone that the AVERAGE user buys just because it's "new"....mostly Iphone converts and people that just want to have the "newest thing" to show off) Honestly, when I saw the s4 I was thinking, "wow, nice Note2 with a faster CPU". I didn't look at EVERYTHING the s4 is offering (software and all) but if I were to upgrade now (I have 4 upgrades I can use anytime I wish), I'd just get the Note 2 and be done with it. After using the OG Note (and the Dell Streak before this phone), I just can't see going to a smaller screen. Like dvdivx said, the Note 3 will be here before we know it and the S4 will look like a kids toy compared to what that phone is going to bring. They can call the S4 the "flagship" all they want but if you have read anything about what the N3 "is going to have" and then look at the specs of the S4 you can see that this phone is nothing but a little brother to the Note3. To me, the S4 release changes a lot of the N3 "rumors" to FACT and because of that, I'm not interested at all in this phone. Not to mention that there will be as many people walking around with the S4 as there are IPhone users. "I have the S4! It's the newest thing"......yeah well, I stopped thinking like that when I walked away from Apple FOREVER.
I'll be holding on to at least 3 of my upgrades though because there are BIG things coming at the end of the year from everything I've been reading. This might just be the year that changes what a smartphone looks and feels like. ( I'm sure there are some of you that know what I'm talking about)
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This^
I don't see any reason to upgrade just to have the newest thing. (Think about it SERIOUSLY. The "S" phones are Samsungs fanboy phone really. This is the phone that the AVERAGE user buys just because it's "new"....mostly Iphone converts and people that just want to have the "newest thing" to show off) Honestly, when I saw the s4 I was thinking, "wow, nice Note2 with a faster CPU". I didn't look at EVERYTHING the s4 is offering (software and all) but if I were to upgrade now (I have 4 upgrades I can use anytime I wish), I'd just get the Note 2 and be done with it. After using the OG Note (and the Dell Streak before this phone), I just can't see going to a smaller screen. Like dvdivx said, the Note 3 will be here before we know it and the S4 will look like a kids toy compared to what that phone is going to bring. They can call the S4 the "flagship" all they want but if you have read anything about what the N3 "is going to have" and then look at the specs of the S4 you can see that this phone is nothing but a little brother to the Note3. To me, the S4 release changes a lot of the N3 "rumors" to FACT and because of that, I'm not interested at all in this phone. Not to mention that there will be as many people walking around with the S4 as there are IPhone users. "I have the S4! It's the newest thing"......yeah well, I stopped thinking like that when I walked away from Apple FOREVER.
I'll be holding on to at least 3 of my upgrades though because there are BIG things coming at the end of the year from everything I've been reading. This might just be the year that changes what a smartphone looks and feels like. ( I'm sure there are some of you that know what I'm talking about)
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Agreed! Nice one!
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I won't be getting the S4. I'm looking forward to the Note 3, hopefully 6"-6.3" screen and a bigger battery than the Note 2.
Ive had my note since launch day and I have 1 upgrade available now another another in November so I can't wait. I love my note 1 but I want some official JB and I kind of miss TW after playing with a coworkers note 2.
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The S4 just isn't bleeding edge. It's just got some upgraded components that all the other phones are getting. Not interested. It would have been an awesome phone a year ago. It's an S3+, but the lemmings that will buy it have no clue.
I'm not eligible for an upgrade until early 2014. I just purchased the s3 on eBay and I'm planning on parting ways with the note 1. Next time I do upgrade, I'll probably go for the s4 or even the note 2 since they will probably be much cheaper by then with a contract extension
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Why bother? The US version will probably not have the dual quad, just single quad.. So yes, more CPU than the current S3 but not a big deal. Same ram. Software I couldn't care less about.
Might as well save money on an S3, it's otherwise basically the same phone.
That said, nope. Maybe the Note 3 sometime, unless it's much bigger than it is today. I like my Note 1, but if it gets much bigger I'm not sure it's feasible.
Maybe we'll see
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The fact that only the international version will come with the exynos 5 octa core while we'll get the Qualcomm in the US is a disappointment for me, and will be the only reason that as of now I'll say no, not getting it.
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I will not get for the s4 either.
I definitely want to wait for the note 3 though. I can't get anything else now that I am used to the note. But, will the note 3 really get that big of a screen?
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I will not get for the s4 either.
I definitely want to wait for the note 3 though. I can't get anything else now that I am used to the note. But, will the note 3 really get that big of a screen?
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I myself want to get the note 3, but not so sure, if it will have a 6.3 inch, that's just to big to carry on the front pocket. That is .7 shy of carrying a 7 inch tablet in your pocket.
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For those on the Fence!!!!

I know many people post and come here looking for guidance on whether they should keep the Note 1 or upgrade to the Note 2. And here is my honest opinion. Let me first start off by saying how much I loved the Note 1's size and that it pretty much keeps me locked into buying only a few devices based on that fact alone. And although the Note 2 is only .2 inches larger it packs enough other features to make it a great upgrade.
Now a little about Me. I am definitely a phone lover, I have had over 20 different phones in the past few years, and love trying out different brands and operating systems. But I usually like to stick to Stock and really don't mod my devices.
Let me first start off by saying had Samsung upgraded the Note 1 to Jelly bean, I probably would have the Note 1 Still. And yes, I know I could have installed Jelly Bean or had it installed by an experienced technician, but I prefer my devices to be stock. Although the Note 1 is an incredible device its hardware begin showing its age. The phone I once thought was very smooth started chugging along as more hardware intensive applications were installed on it. I would have too reset the phone every so often to help keep enough Ram free to keep things from slowing down too much, and did a few full factory wipes when things got too bad. But all in all the Note 1 is a good phone and I would still recommend it to someone who likes to mod, or to someone who wants the big screen of the note series but doesn't like the price tag of the Note 2.
Now onto why I think you will love the Note 2. Well, first If you like the Note 1 you will definitely like the Note 2, they share many things in common. Like I mentioned before the Note 2 screen is not much bigger that the Note 1. Second, Touchwiz although it has been refined more, its still touch wiz, and the software between most of the galaxy phones is very familiar which is a good thing. But, what the Note 2 improves on makes it worth purchasing. First the feature I love the most is the speed upgrade. With 2 GB of Ram this phones speeds through things and you will experience less waiting for web paged and apps to load. Second on the software side, Samsung has introduced knew features where when you take out the S pen or plug in the headphones It will take you to a special homepage where the necessary content is easily available, for instance if you plug in the head phones it takes you to a page with the music widget, this overall makes it easier to play music. A design feature that I love and is unique to the American Variants of the Note 1 is the home button. Fore some the four touch buttons might make navigating easier but I love double tapping the home button to turn the screen on especially when i'm trying to change songs while driving, and tapping once to exit an application.
Well I hope this helps someone on the fence, who is thinking but not quite sure what to do. To summarize the Note 1 is a great phone, but I believe the Note 2 packs enough new features and design elements to warrant an upgrade.
ive decided to keep my note, holding out hope for a JB update :good:
At this time I will wait for note3. We are only 5-6 months away...and I think we are going to get jelly bean upgrade soon anyway.with most of the note2 features included. There's really dont have any good reasons to get note2 now. Unless our phone broke.and u need a phone now..
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Yeah I wished they would have upgraded the Note 1 to Jelly Bean already, but I got tired of waiting. But thats Googles fault they should start holding manufacturers accountable for there upgrades. Better yet manufacturers should start shipping all phones out with pure Android on them and the owner of the phone will have the choice of installing there skin or rocking the pure experience, atleast that way when an update comes out it will be available immediately and all the manufacturer would have to do is update its skin to the newest Android version, problem solved.
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The Note 2 is a really good phone but in a few more months, the Note 3 is gonna be release and most of us are willing to keep our Notes til then. My girl has the Note 2 and even she says that the 16x10 screen ratio is better than the 16x9 ratio on the note 2.
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The note 2 is light years ahead of this phone in every regard. This phone was like an experiment gone wrong.
If you think about it the gnote1 was the guinea pig. Notice every company is coming out with 5 inch phones now to compete with Samsung? Remember when our phone was a niche and people thought we were crazy??!
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The note 2 is light years ahead of this phone in every regard. This phone was like an experiment gone wrong.
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Just wondering...How was the OG Note like an experiment gone wrong?
More like the Dell Streak was a bad experiment.
The OG Note was the first 5+ inch screen phone that gained traction for Phablets. Plus bringing back the olden day stylus but making it do much more with features is damn well amazing.
Now...almost every mobile manufacturer and their grandmas are producing 5+ inch screens.
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Just wondering...How was the OG Note like an experiment gone wrong?
More like the Dell Streak was a bad experiment.
The OG Note was the first 5+ inch screen phone that gained traction for Phablets. Plus bringing back the olden day stylus but making it do much more with features is damn well amazing.
Now...almost every mobile manufacturer and their grandmas are producing 5+ inch screens.
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Laggy, poor battery life, end of life nearly immediately... The note 2 is what the note should have been from the start
Note3 for me with Key Lime Pie then ..Lemon Drop or whatever they're gonna call it.
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Yeah I'm also waiting for the Note 3. Getting the Note 2 is pointless now...
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Laggy, poor battery life, end of life nearly immediately... The note 2 is what the note should have been from the start
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I believe AT&T still carries the OG Note so its not at the end of life like the HTC Droid DNA which got EOL within only 4 months. The Note 2 should've had 1080p full resolution...but I'm sure we'll see that on the Note 3 which will make the Note 2 obsolete. Nuff said
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Yeah I'm also waiting for the Note 3. Getting the Note 2 is pointless now...
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I believe AT&T still carries the OG Note so its not at the end of life like the HTC Droid DNA which got EOL within only 4 months. The Note 2 should've had 1080p full resolution...but I'm sure we'll see that on the Note 3 which will make the Note 2 obsolete. Nuff said
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I hardly think that difference in resolution makes it obsolete, especially considering when it came out... You're reaching
Is getting treated by Samsung like an old dog that should be put down, that's what I meant about EOL. Canadian carriers still sell it too
Proud owner of the I717 flashed to run on the Tmobile and it's MVNO's Network. Good points throughout this thread, the Dev Community has kept this device more than capable in my eyes. Had I the spare cash when the Note 2 came out, I probably would have grabbed one, but as other's have stated, the Note 3 is literally right around the corner, and will have the features that I'm looking for, namely the 1080 res, and more cores under the hood. Note 3 is my next device unless someone comes out of left field with something comparable.
I too wanted the Note 2 when it first came out. But since the Note 3 or Samsung's Mega phones are on the way, I'll just wait. Merry Christmas to me.
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Proud owner of the I717 flashed to run on the Tmobile and it's MVNO's Network. Good points throughout this thread, the Dev Community has kept this device more than capable in my eyes. Had I the spare cash when the Note 2 came out, I probably would have grabbed one, but as other's have stated, the Note 3 is literally right around the corner, and will have the features that I'm looking for, namely the 1080 res, and more cores under the hood. Note 3 is my next device unless someone comes out of left field with something comparable.
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You must be drunk cause there is no confirmed release or existence of the note 3 yet .. Rumor Lol.. Just giving you hell
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Well.......since getting the note 2, I can say without a doubt that it's simply a great device. Battery life is superb, and function with the quad core chip is nimble and effortless.
However, with every device comes it's setbacks, and the note 2 is no exception, with a borked up browser, weak glass screen, and resolution that is "NOT" improved over the note 1, just to name a few of the issues I've found.
The note 1 was a breakthrough device. And Samsung created a whole new user base with it. It's life is not even close to over, as the device is still sold in several markets world wide, and refurbished devices are flowing like water from Texas.
I love the note 1, and it will always hold a unique place in the handset world. so those of you who want to move over to the note 2, go ahead. It's a great device, but so is the note 1 in many ways.
Enjoy them both while they last, as we are sure to see a third version in the works soon. But for now, don't worry about it, as it's only a rumor......and we all know about rumors, and how they end up much different than the reality we live with.
Happy flashing....g
Samsung would be a fool if they didn't release another version of the BEST PHABLET on the market! It was probably the 2nd or 3rd Best selling Android last year. For all the doubters.
.Trust me...we'll see the Note 3!
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Greg, can you elaborate on the weak glass screen? Is it flimsy compared to the 717 or has it broken on you?
Thanks bud!
I'm thinking of downgrading the screen size and going for a HTC ONE. Having a nexus 7, a surface pro, and a computer makes me feel like the galaxy note is neglected a lot and there's really no need for such a device now. I still want a smartphone, just not one this big since the nexus 7 is with me anyway. Oh well, to each his own. I did try and end up not buying the note 2.
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The Note 2 is a really good phone but in a few more months, the Note 3 is gonna be release and most of us are willing to keep our Notes til then. My girl has the Note 2 and even she says that the 16x10 screen ratio is better than the 16x9 ratio on the note 2.
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if you ever break up, your girl has plenty of options...
I kid, and yet I dont, 16:9 drives me nuts! So nuts in fact that I refuse to buy ANY laptop/desktop monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio! Sure the laptop's are quickly becoming outdated, but ill switch to a tablet with 16:10 before I upgrade to a laptop with 16:9
A true 7" tablet phone (not phone tablet/phablet) with 16:10 before Id give up my GNote for the GNote 2 with 16:9! Well, that or a swap with my i717 for an n7000!

Looks like I'm going to keep my Mega (Note 3 related)

Although I've only had my Mega 6.3 for 8 days, I've gotten used to the large screen. Now that the Note 3 has been anounced, it's got a 5.7 screen and I think that's too small. Once you go large, you can never go back...
I love the features and the horsepower of the Note 3, but the design... it looks like the Note 1 again. Bigger rounder corners like the Mega are better for comfort in your pocket in your jeans. i think i have to hold it and try be4 i buy this one.
Yes me too mega is the beast... disappoint of note3 size
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Same here. Although I am still kind of on the fence.
I'm picking up a 16gb mega right now. I'm back lol.
I didn't like the note 3 design, I was hoping for a large 6 inch screen. Acer s2 liquid also looks good.
When I had the original Note I didn't feel attracted to the Note 2 because the difference in screen size wasn't big and it was actually lower resolution. It felt like a downgrade and anything smaller felt lacking even if they had better CPU/GPU. That changed when I saw the Mega and now I can't get excited for phones having a smaller screen. The things that I was hoping for that might interest me with the Note 3 was a bigger screen in the same pocketable size as the Mega, optical stabilisation, and 64gb/128gb standard internal memory. Those never happened so I'm much better off waiting for the Mega 2.
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When I had the original Note I didn't feel attracted to the Note 2 because the difference in screen size wasn't big and it was actually lower resolution. It felt like a downgrade and anything smaller felt lacking even if they had better CPU/GPU. That changed when I saw the Mega and now I can't get excited for phones having a smaller screen. The things that I was hoping for that might interest me with the Note 3 was a bigger screen in the same pocketable size as the Mega, optical stabilisation, and 64gb/128gb standard internal memory. Those never happened so I'm much better off waiting for the Mega 2.
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You took the words out of my mouth. The megas screen spoiled me.
I think the Mega screen spoiled all of us. I just can't see going to a smaller screen.
This may sound like sour grapes but it's not. IMO, the 3 has way too much stuff. I mean, if it gets unlocked and rooted and people install a custom ROM such as 10.2, then most of the stuff is not going to work anyway.
I came from the org Note and rooted and installed a ROM the first day I had it.....never used the spen as it was intended.
I've had my 6.3 for a little over a week and I'm still finding things on it. I just found the task manager two day ago.
So, my vote would be no on the Note 3. I'm very happy with the Mega and will be even happier when it gets rooted.
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This may sound like sour grapes but it's not. IMO, the 3 has way too much stuff. I mean, if it gets unlocked and rooted and people install a custom ROM such as 10.2, then most of the stuff is not going to work anyway.
I came from the org Note and rooted and installed a ROM the first day I had it.....never used the spen as it was intended.
I've had my 6.3 for a little over a week and I'm still finding things on it. I just found the task manager two day ago.
So, my vote would be no on the Note 3. I'm very happy with the Mega and will be even happier when it gets rooted.
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What you said about the CM rom disabling the features of the Note is actually a really good point.
True the screen resolution of the Mega isn't the highest but it sure looks good anyway!
So yeah, agreed too, will pass on the Note 3 ^^
Only downside of Mega is that it's such a niche product that I'm afraid that the developpement will be slow
I'm still hedging between the Mega and the Note 3.
I really want a powerful device with the latest specs, but the Mega's screen real estate keeps tugging on my heart.
I guess i'll wait until the Note 3 is actually in stores so I can play with it myself. That's the only way I'll be able to make a good decision. I am excited about all of the features. The enhancements to Multiview look pretty nice.
As an aside, I hope they do another Dropbox promotion soon. I need more space.
Techngro said:
I'm still hedging between the Mega and the Note 3.
I really want a powerful device with the latest specs, but the Mega's screen real estate keeps tugging on my heart.
I guess i'll wait until the Note 3 is actually in stores so I can play with it myself. That's the only way I'll be able to make a good decision. I am excited about all of the features. The enhancements to Multiview look pretty nice.
As an aside, I hope they do another Dropbox promotion soon. I need more space.
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Once you try bigger screen, you'll feel its the best. Im only using mega 5.8, when i look my iphone 4s its kinda smaaaal:laugh:
dparrothead1 said:
This may sound like sour grapes but it's not. IMO, the 3 has way too much stuff. I mean, if it gets unlocked and rooted and people install a custom ROM such as 10.2, then most of the stuff is not going to work anyway.
I came from the org Note and rooted and installed a ROM the first day I had it.....never used the spen as it was intended.
I've had my 6.3 for a little over a week and I'm still finding things on it. I just found the task manager two day ago.
So, my vote would be no on the Note 3. I'm very happy with the Mega and will be even happier when it gets rooted.
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I agree. High end devices tend to be more of a numbers race to beat the competition while the mid range is more value for money. With the Note 3 you will be paying for specs and features you will never use or don't need. If most people think like us in this thread then I'm confident more people will buy the Mega. It only had 2 months in the market and just available in the US so it's still early days. With the price getting lower after the release of high end phones (the Mega is now just £316 on Amazon) it will be a hit this Christmas.
This is somehow a re-post of mine from another thread but I think it applies perfectly to this thread too.
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I have been holding on and skipping devices that really appealing to me(LG Pro, Oppo, Sony Xperia Z, etc) for the Note 3.
I was going to order the Xperia Z Ultra but thankfully I convinced my self otherwise. I'm not playing many games now days nor using it heavily.
Mostly for above average media consumption, light gaming, browsing.
Also as I said I was waiting for the Note 3 since the day Note 2 was announced since I decided to skip a generation.
And thankfully I decided to skip the Note 3 for the Mega. I really wanna go even bigger this time. I don't mind the mid-range performance.
And since my original Note with Asylum 4.3 now feels so incredible(it felt good with custom JB 4.1.2 too), I can only imagine the Mega will blow my mind.
I got the Note 1 at launch and I paid for it quite dearly for it back then.
And today I got my Samsung MEGA(i9200). HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! I'm really in love with this devices. The size, the screen, its sound are just... amazing!
I can't even remotely explain how I feel about it. This IS really the device that ever wanted.
I'm using it for a couple hours now and I can tell you I wouldn't even think about trading it for a Note 3(for free yes as I could sell the Note3 and buy another Mega )
This is really my preferred size of a phone. But I can go down to 6" too if the N4 is released next year and its 5,9-6,0". The best device so far I ever owned.
I also stated that I can go up to 6" when I got my Note in previous post of mine. So I was kinda always wanted a phone this big,
Watched a few trailers, videos clip, youtube videos, listen to many songs. I can say the experience was amazing. I haven't played any games yet tho.
This phone is big. You cannot really how humongous it's unless you light up the screen. The you can understand how huge it is. But it doesn't feel THAT bigger than my Note tbh.
I think that sums things up for me. I haven't felt this excited for a phone since 21 months ago when I got my original Note. Really happy owner here.
I'm torn between this and the Note 3. I don't really use the phone for more than playing games, talking, texting and facebooking. Oh and a music player. I'll watch a movie when I can. I have the Note 1 and I'm cool with the display whatever it is. The only reason I'm getting something different is because my Note 1 is about to bite the dust. Does it sound like the Mega is good for me? The only reason I got the Note in the first place was because of the size if that helps at all. I use my S-Pen to draw on pictures every blue moon.
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I'm torn between this and the Note 3. I don't really use the phone for more than playing games, talking, texting and facebooking. Oh and a music player. I'll watch a movie when I can. I have the Note 1 and I'm cool with the display whatever it is. The only reason I'm getting something different is because my Note 1 is about to bite the dust. Does it sound like the Mega is good for me? The only reason I got the Note in the first place was because of the size if that helps at all. I use my S-Pen to draw on pictures every blue moon.
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I believe the Mega would serve you well. It is truly a great device that performs exellent. You don't have to waste money on the extra features on the Note III if you don't need them. I have had both the Note, Note II and now I am enjoying the Mega :good:
rikken said:
I believe the Mega would serve you well. It is truly a great device that performs exellent. You don't have to waste money on the extra features on the Note III if you don't need them. I have had both the Note, Note II and now I am enjoying the Mega :good:
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Quick question. Is the screen the same as the Note? I guess the density or whatever the hell it's called? Oh and is it the same speed or faster? Does it have MultiWindow? That's about the only thing that I want from my Note.
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Quick question. Is the screen the same as the Note? I guess the density or whatever the hell it's called? Oh and is it the same speed or faster? Does it have MultiWindow? That's about the only thing that I want from my Note.
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No resolution is slightly less due to ratio change
The original was 1200×800 this is 720 i think but could be wrong however its a brighter more natural screen as opposes to the note 1 which was a poor amoled. The note 3 is obviously a 1080p
Yes multiwindow is ther as is airview
Much faster than note 1 way slowe than note 3
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Christogq said:
Quick question. Is the screen the same as the Note? I guess the density or whatever the hell it's called? Oh and is it the same speed or faster? Does it have MultiWindow? That's about the only thing that I want from my Note.
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The mega screen is better than note 1 and 2 imo. I think the crispness of the LCD panel puts it over the edge.
Benchmarks wise, the Note 3 will beat the Mega but actual every day performance will not be that different specially if you do some tweaks (replace Touchwiz, disable unused features, set animation to 0.5 or 0, etc).

Galaxy Note 3 , will you buy it?

I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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androidindian said:
If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
corrado85 said:
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dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
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although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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[Q] From Note 2 to Note 3

Hi Guys, currently I have the Note 2. do you recommend taking the Jump to the Note 3 or waiting for the new stuff?. If so, what advantages do I have?
Thanks..
if money is not a problem only then otherwise it's a no no,as I myself have used both and I think there is no major difference that will open your mouth( like from note to note 2)
my advice wait until next August maximum, as in note 3 there is not a groundbreaking tech ( same octa, same 3 th etc etc) ,now next year the tech to own will be OLED CURVED DISPLAY ( like in galaxy round or LG g flex ,but they are nwe so they're mostly like prototypes ) and that my friend ,will be Chuck Norris like thing,
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Hi Guys, currently I have the Note 2. do you recommend taking the Jump to the Note 3 or waiting for the new stuff?. If so, what advantages do I have?
Thanks..
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No stay on the note 2.. As an addition I only say this cause of the Knox I The note 3.. If you are going to run stock then it doesn't matter and in that cause I would say yes. . Much faster better camera ability to move apps to sd slightly bigger screen.. But Knox is a real pain if you want to route and do things .
I have both and thought that the Note 3 was a waste of money. I no longer feel at way. I think the Note three is better in everyway. Looks good, feels good, Scover is very helpful. The software is better. The only thing I miss is text flow in the browser.
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i think it's not a leap like note to note 2. note 2 to note 3 is like a large step. it's nice. i was going to wait for the other rumored note 3's like flex display and active versions but I can't help it. i had to get it. the specs and full hd display was too alluring.
I listed the pros and cons here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2489871
Not worth the jump to me. Played with a Note 3 extensively and came away not so impressed compared to the Note 2. Would rather just wait for whatever official update is due the Note 2 (well the Sprint version) that brings to it some parity in terms of software features.
I find it interesting that so many people that say that the Note 3 is not worth the upgrade and won't do it are hanging around in a Note 3 forum... just saying.. LOL
I work at a company that has over 600 Note 2's issued to employees. In my opinion, the Note 3 is a good step above the Note 2. Maybe the Note 2 will get a software upgrade, but the hardware will not change. The Note 3 is faster, has more RAM, larger storage options, larger, higher resolution screen, etc.
If you're always waiting for the next best phone, you'll never get one. In today's world, technology is obsolete the day after it is delivered. That said, I recommend that you get your hands on a Note 3 at the Sprint store and compare how it performs to your current phone and make an educated decision based on your personal preferences.
Like most I'm incline to keep the Note 2. agree with the last post but in a couple of months something better may come up. don't get me wrong, I'm watching Swappa very close to see if there is a good price on a Note 3 but in the mean time I'm staying put....
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Like most I'm incline to keep the Note 2. agree with the last post but in a couple of months something better may come up. don't get me wrong, I'm watching Swappa very close to see if there is a good price on a Note 3 but in the mean time I'm staying put....
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pal like 1ghz this was a boom in 2010(galaxy s)
then dual core was a another blast in 2011( LG 2x)
then quad core ( LG 4x)
this year nothing is like New except the camera in lumia 1020 and other android phones just a little bit more ram a little bit processor (2.5 etc) and more screen and resolution there is nothing groundbreaking tech this year at all that stands apart( hmmm LG g2 rear buttons may be a exception)
BUT NEXT YEAR 2014 it's the time of oleds and CURVED DISPLAYs baby,and that my friend will be a awesome thing to have...
if you have money go note 3 but if you have wise money wait for note 4
(talking specifically about android and note series may have left something to mention like finger scanner in i5s)

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