[Q] Updated and lost root access still have SU and CWM - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok sorry, so I accepted an OTA update and I of course lost root access. I thought I could go back and attempt to re-root the same way with odin, by flashing clockworkmod.TAR, but it did not work. I even tried a factory reset and attempted re-rooting this same way; and it still wont work. When flashing CWM, it installs successfully, but still wont give me root access. SU, and CWM are still on the phone after a factory reset. How do I get re-rooted access, and can I do it with CWM file, and SU still on the phone?

rrrydog said:
Ok sorry, so I accepted an OTA update and I of course lost root access. I thought I could go back and attempt to re-root the same way with odin, by flashing clockworkmod.TAR, but it did not work. I even tried a factory reset and attempted re-rooting this same way; and it still wont work. When flashing CWM, it installs successfully, but still wont give me root access. SU, and CWM are still on the phone after a factory reset. How do I get re-rooted access, and can I do it with CWM file, and SU still on the phone?
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You need to reroot with CF Root as you probably did originally.
This is done through ODIN.
It sounds like you're just reflashing the CWM recovery
EDIT - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238

mikep99 said:
You need to reroot with CF Root as you probably did originally.
This is done through ODIN.
It sounds like you're just reflashing the CWM recovery
EDIT - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238[/QUOTE
By re-rooting with CF-root, would the fact that SU still being on the phone cause any issues?
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Try to install busybox first
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Nishu_gamer said:
Try to install busybox first
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I tried that, but because I have lost root access, it fails to install.....

rrrydog said:
mikep99 said:
You need to reroot with CF Root as you probably did originally.
This is done through ODIN.
It sounds like you're just reflashing the CWM recovery
EDIT - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238[/QUOTE
By re-rooting with CF-root, would the fact that SU still being on the phone cause any issues?
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It worked!! Thanks, I really appreciate it!!
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[Q] Flashed SpeedMod, no root?

Hi Guys, first time flashing and just successfully done so with SpeedMod kernel. Checked the kernel version and yup it's there.
One problem though, I tried installing Titanium Back up but it says my phone is not properly rooted. So I downloaded Root Checker and it says that my phone is indeed not properly rooted. What happened? I thought SpeedMod automatically installs root?
Hope (and Im sure) you guys can help me. Thanks in advance!
Jiggeroo said:
Hi Guys, first time flashing and just successfully done so with SpeedMod kernel. Checked the kernel version and yup it's there.
One problem though, I tried installing Titanium Back up but it says my phone is not properly rooted. So I downloaded Root Checker and it says that my phone is indeed not properly rooted. What happened? I thought SpeedMod automatically installs root?
Hope (and Im sure) you guys can help me. Thanks in advance!
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1st i hope your phone was rooted lol. Did u install a rom then flash speedmod while still in recovery straight away?
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Jiggeroo said:
Hi Guys, first time flashing and just successfully done so with SpeedMod kernel. Checked the kernel version and yup it's there.
One problem though, I tried installing Titanium Back up but it says my phone is not properly rooted. So I downloaded Root Checker and it says that my phone is indeed not properly rooted. What happened? I thought SpeedMod automatically installs root?
Hope (and Im sure) you guys can help me. Thanks in advance!
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Installing speedmod kernal won't give you root access.. 1st you have to root your phone.. Search for it.. I will tell one method.. Flash an insecure kernel.. Then use 's2 root ' to root your phone.. There are many other methods..
Thank me if I helped
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I see. I thought it was gonna give me root straight away. I posted a topic here about that and the one who replied told me to just flash SpeedMod straight away.
So what I have to do is flash an insecure kernel, then flash SpeedMod again?
bibymon said:
Installing speedmod kernal won't give you root access.. 1st you have to root your phone.. Search for it.. I will tell one method.. Flash an insecure kernel.. Then use 's2 root ' to root your phone.. There are many other methods..
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errr....wrong
Quoted from the speedmod changelog:
Current features:
Root and CWM:
- Automatically installs root (su)
- CWM recovery
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perhaps you need to update superuser or download SU Update Fixer
What are you guys on about, speedomod and most if not all custom kernels do indeed root you phone. Try to flash it again and plz use odin, not recovery as some assume.
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Speedmod automatically roots your phone....
I expect superuser wasn't updated to the latest version,
Did titanium give an option such as 'yes, do it'?
If so, it's because your superuser app was not updated to latest version, check it on the android market.
I've flashed SpeedMod hundreds of times, it's never once failed to root.
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chrisjcks said:
Speedmod automatically roots your phone....
I expect superuser wasn't updated to the latest version,
Did titanium give an option such as 'yes, do it'?
If so, it's because your superuser app was not updated to latest version, check it on the android market.
I've flashed SpeedMod hundreds of times, it's never once failed to root.
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I flashed it using Odin. Titanium didn;t give me that option either. I guess Ill just check the market for the latest Superuser then. Ill get back to you guys once I get back home, still here at work.
Thanks for the replies!
Ok so I downloaded the latest SU. Tried updating from within the app. So i got to the black screen with the green fonts, it says i run the legacy version. Then when it gets to the gaining root access.... Part, it always says fail. I tried dling the Su updater but all its says is ok.
Any help anyone?
Jiggeroo said:
Any help anyone?
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My suggestion as you are going around in baffling circles .
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Clean Slate for those that balls up the firmware .Or need to return to service or decide if its hardware/firmware problem .
Backup data first if phone is working .
Boot CWM recovery
Mounts and Storage
Format cache data system sd card .
Remove battery
Boot to download mode
Open Odin
Install correct stock firmware .
Start over with your custom rom root whatever .
Thanks for the tip Jjegan but I can't afford to lose all my apps in the process as I still can't use Titanium Backup. I've already updated to Superuser v3.0.7 but Root Checker still says I do not have proper root access.
I was browsing the OneClick Root thread and I saw someone there with the same problem (Superuser installed but can't use apps that require root access) but was not answered (I went from page 1-39). Spekaing of OneClick Root, would it work? It says it installs Superuser, su and Busybox.
I hope someone can help me with this.
**Also, would reflashing the stock kernel then flashing SpeedMod again solve the problem?
Might sound obvious but anyway: go into su, scroll over to the log and check that su hasn't been inadvertently blocked.
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No use. My log is empty plus I set the automatic response to Allow. Still nothing.
Should I just reflash the original kernel, clear all data then reflash Speedmod?
I'm running stock firmware btw.
I ran S2 Root and it says my device already has PERM ROOT. I'm getting confused...
Try fixing permissions, if that doesn't work try flashing a CF kernel or the original one. If all else fails you might have to bite the bullet and follow the advice above and start with a clean slate.
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I just read somewhere that there no working root for XXKL1, I'm on XXKL1. Is this true? If it is then I guess we have our problem..
Jiggeroo said:
I just read somewhere that there no working root for XXKL1, I'm on XXKL1. Is this true? If it is then I guess we have our problem..
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Did you try the KL1 cwm and root ???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
Ok I got it. XXKL1 can't get root access (I bought the phone from someone so I didn't know this before). I went ahead and flashed CheckRom v6 and everything worked! Superuser, root, etc.. everything! Good thing I kept on reading. Anyways, thanks for the replies guys!
Speedmod will make you lose root. Root again and flash a kernel like redpill or siyah.
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(Q) galaxy s3 cwm

I picked up my galaxy today and i'm trying to root it. I followed the instructions and pass with odin but when i try to reboot into recovery it does not reboot into clockwork recovery only into Android system recovery. I've tried atleast 10 times with same results. Any help greatly appreciated
Depending on what kernel you flash, it does not include the recovery which is located in a different partition.
So you might have to install (flash) it seperatly.
If you want an all-in-one bundle, e.g. the Siyah kernel would be good.
Don't i need to be rooted first? i PASS the odin but when i try reboot into recovery so i can install the cwm superuser file it doesn't boot into clockwork recovery
Tyson11234 said:
Don't i need to be rooted first? i PASS the odin but when i try reboot into recovery so i can install the cwm superuser file it doesn't boot into clockwork recovery
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not sure what cwm procedure your trying to do but if your using cf root the SU already gets installed during root process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
SwiftSmoke said:
not sure what cwm procedure your trying to do but if your using cf root the SU already gets installed during root process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
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I'm using this method since my device is the SPH-L710
Tyson11234 said:
I'm using this method since my device is the SPH-L710
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Hmmm and youve definately followed the procedure to the letter? Incl not unzipping the downloads too much you only need the tar files.
If SU and cwm manager and rooting is succeeding then maybe just flash the cwm version from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684535
SwiftSmoke said:
not sure what cwm procedure your trying to do but if your using cf root the SU already gets installed during root process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
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I did it this method and it failed twice. The method i was using i passed but just can get into clockwork recovery. This is frustrating never had a problem rooting phones before
I'm having the same problem with my Sprint Galaxy S3. Using Odin I can successfully flash Clockworkmod but I am unsuccessful at getting into Clockwork recovery. I've tried having autoreboot checked, autoreboot unchecked, F. reset time checked, and F. reset time unchecked. Any ideas on how to root?
Also this might be irrelevant but after turning on my gs3 for the first time it wanted me to update my phone, so I did. Could this update prevent the root?
abrown128 said:
I'm having the same problem with my Sprint Galaxy S3. Using Odin I can successfully flash Clockworkmod but I am unsuccessful at getting into Clockwork recovery. I've tried having autoreboot checked, autoreboot unchecked, F. reset time checked, and F. reset time unchecked. Any ideas on how to root?
Also this might be irrelevant but after turning on my gs3 for the first time it wanted me to update my phone, so I did. Could this update prevent the root?
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If you're not using an International version of the phone then you need to be posting in the correct thread. Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1667
abrown128 said:
I'm having the same problem with my Sprint Galaxy S3. Using Odin I can successfully flash Clockworkmod but I am unsuccessful at getting into Clockwork recovery. I've tried having autoreboot checked, autoreboot unchecked, F. reset time checked, and F. reset time unchecked. Any ideas on how to root?
Also this might be irrelevant but after turning on my gs3 for the first time it wanted me to update my phone, so I did. Could this update prevent the root?
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It probably was the update cause i did the update also. I'm returning mine to exchange since i only got it yesterday this time i'm not gonna install the update and see if it works
Tyson11234 said:
It probably was the update cause i did the update also. I'm returning mine to exchange since i only got it yesterday this time i'm not gonna install the update and see if it works
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(UPDATE) Ok i exchanged my phone at sprint and this time i didn't install the samsung update and it rooted with no problems.
IM also having the same problem, I got my phone yesterday (sunday) and after turning on it pushed the sprint lf9 OTA update so i did. I tried to root followed the exact procedure but after passing odin it does not enter to clockwork rec. Does the OTA LF9 update re-write clockword rec??? Is there a other way to root the GS3 ??? i have the sprint version. Im kinda new with these types of procedures.
Thanks!
GeoNostiK said:
IM also having the same problem, I got my phone yesterday (sunday) and after turning on it pushed the sprint lf9 OTA update so i did. I tried to root followed the exact procedure but after passing odin it does not enter to clockwork rec. Does the OTA LF9 update re-write clockword rec??? Is there a other way to root the GS3 ??? i have the sprint version. Im kinda new with these types of procedures.
Thanks!
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Yes it's the update it frustrated the hell outta me that's why i got mine exchange and didn't install the update with the new phone, after that i rooted fine. until you find a way to get it exchange you'll be frustrated trying to root. Try getting it exchanged
QBKing's updates video explains how to make it work. I had tried it a dozen times w/ various cords, ports, and computers. The problem isn't Oden per se; it's apparently the update. The new video shows how.
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Thanks once again!!! Ive finally Rooted my GS3 with qbking's new video update. It will let you have root acces after LF9 sprint OTA update. Now hoping we get a full Jellybean update for are gs3 ! :thumbup:
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[Q] cmw not working and superuser not working after rom manager backup failed

Hi,
I have recently installed android rev hd 40 on my s3 I was going to back it up using Rom Manager before trying another rom. It failed to back up data and then said something about superuser access. I tried to reboot. It got to lock screen twice and crashed back to reboot. then stuck on samsung boot screen.
I used odin to re-root(i think) and phone started ok. but when i tried to update binary? as requested it failed. I tried to install chainfire from market and it said there was not super user installed and that this was a problem! that I should come to forums for advice.
I then tried to restore from rom manager.......rom manager not working due to no super user access.....I think. It cannot see any restore files.
Not sure how I use odin for anything other than cf auto root.
can anyone help me reinstall cmw and get super user access again???
thanks
First of all- see if you got app called 'SuperUser' installed in your app drawer (which is different from chainfire's SuperSU app you tried to install).
If the answer is yes- see if in-app root access permissions are disabled. If the answer is no and you have access to CWM, i suggest flashing SuperSU with CWM from this link (It should replace your current root manager): http://download.chainfire.eu/381/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.91.zip
If the flashing failed because it says that you dont have rooted device- try to reflash CF-Auto root with odin: http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
If you dont have acess to CWM or want to install a newer recovery- I recommend Philz touch: http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/i9300
(It can be installed with Odin (.tar file) in the same way as CF-AutoRoot, or in CWM mode with the .zip file)
Good luck
Thanks for the help.
I have flashed the philz recovery as suggested. Worked a treat. The only issue is that I have lost all my previous back ups.
Is it still possible for me to to unroot and clear rom counter if I needed to, if there was a warranty claim fault on the phone without access to the original back up?
Thanks again.
Gary Jones said:
Thanks for the help.
I have flashed the philz recovery as suggested. Worked a treat. The only issue is that I have lost all my previous back ups.
Is it still possible for me to to unroot and clear rom counter if I needed to, if there was a warranty claim fault on the phone without access to the original back up?
Thanks again.
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Sticked faqs and guides .
How to return to stock for warranty .
Gary Jones said:
Thanks for the help.
I have flashed the philz recovery as suggested. Worked a treat. The only issue is that I have lost all my previous back ups.
Is it still possible for me to to unroot and clear rom counter if I needed to, if there was a warranty claim fault on the phone without access to the original back up?
Thanks again.
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Its based on CWM (on steroids)- so any CWM based module should also work with Philz
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thanks
Thanks for your help and patience.....I realize these questions must have been asked lots of times....could not find specific enough help from previous threads.
Thanks again

Root for NG3?

Hi, I got my S5 today and out of the box it had NG3 installed, is there a root method for this yet? If so could someone point me in the right direction of where I can find it please?
Have you tried towelroot?
Let us know if you tried it and whether or not it worked please.
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TheArtiszan said:
Have you tried towelroot?
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I did but idk if I did something wrong, I soft bricked and had to odin back stock with the firmware off of samfirmware site
Kernel build date on NG3 is July 19 so the exploit has been patched. Can't root with towelroot since it needs a kernel build before Jun 3.
What I did was odin flash philz recovery, then went into the custom recovery and went to reboot, it asked me to root and so I did then was able to download su from play store and was rooted
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bigfdaddy2 said:
What I did was odin flash philz recovery, then went into the custom recovery and went to reboot, it asked me to root and so I did then was able to download su from play store and was rooted
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Thanks man, and you were on NG3 before u rooted?
JG96EVO said:
Thanks man, and you were on NG3 before u rooted?
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I was on nf6 rooted but then hooked phone to PC and used odin to flash the new bn3 and lost root..and towel root doesn't work so the only way I new of to get root back was flash custom recovery then root it through the custom recovery ...
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This phone will never not be rootable. It has an unlocked bootloader, so you can just flash the recovery of your choice, root it from there, then reboot and you're done.
aooga said:
This phone will never not be rootable.
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And why is that? Unless Samsung has restricted the bootloader permissions or set a new qfuse to block a downgrade of this firmware version, then the OP could use Odin to install a pre June 3rd build of 4.4.2 firmware, which Towel root can work with.
The previous update was revertible by installing an earlier firmware (confirmed). And NG3 is probably revertible as well (unconfirmed) i.e. it will be revertible unless Samsung took explicit steps to block a downgrade.
Provided that the OP doesn't care about the Knox flag, then the suggestion to install a custom recovery and root from there is valid too.
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bigfdaddy2 said:
What I did was odin flash philz recovery, then went into the custom recovery and went to reboot, it asked me to root and so I did then was able to download su from play store and was rooted
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You know, I tried this... I keep getting stock recovery though. Driving me nuts.
I have NG3 as well.
wifiguru said:
You know, I tried this... I keep getting stock recovery though. Driving me nuts.
I have NG3 as well.
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Did u Odin phillz recovery ? That's the only way to get custom recovery on the phone that I know of is Odin
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bigfdaddy2 said:
Did u Odin phillz recovery ? That's the only way to get custom recovery on the phone that I know of is Odin
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Thanks.
Yeah, I did it via download mode.
So, what I did, I flash it via Odin in Download mode, and when it auto-reboots, I instantly hold Power + Pwr Up + Home in order to get to Recovery.
If I let it boot up first, it seems that recovery is overwritten by the stock recovery.
All good now =)
wifiguru said:
Thanks.
Yeah, I did it via download mode.
So, what I did, I flash it via Odin in Download mode, and when it auto-reboots, I instantly hold Power + Pwr Up + Home in order to get to Recovery.
If I let it boot up first, it seems that recovery is overwritten by the stock recovery.
All good now =)
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Try unchecking auto-reboot.
bigfdaddy2 said:
Did u Odin phillz recovery ? That's the only way to get custom recovery on the phone that I know of is Odin
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Hi guys, no luck here, have the G900T, with the NG3, tried all with Odin, phillz recovery, bootloader+modem, downgrade to NF6 (failed too) or even the one before, nada, zero, just fail and fail resulting soft brick and only through Kies recovery I'm able to have the phone working again!
daniacorp said:
Hi guys, no luck here, have the G900T, with the NG3, tried all with Odin, phillz recovery, bootloader+modem, downgrade to NF6 (failed too) or even the one before, nada, zero, just fail and fail resulting soft brick and only through Kies recovery I'm able to have the phone working again!
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you need to revert to ne6 firmware for towel root to work. once rooted you can upgrade with mobile odin pro this will allow you to retain root and not trip knox
ashraf sharif said:
you need to revert to ne6 firmware for towel root to work. once rooted you can upgrade with mobile odin pro this will allow you to retain root and not trip knox
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Hi! Thank you for your answer! I already trip Knox long ago, it's not an issue for me, I'm been trying to downgrade to ne6 and it's the same, fail on Odin!
daniacorp said:
Hi! Thank you for your answer! I already trip Knox long ago, it's not an issue for me, I'm been trying to downgrade to ne6 and it's the same, fail on Odin!
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if you just want root you can try cf autoroot http://download.chainfire.eu/407/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-kltetmo-kltetmo-smg900t.zip
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if you just want root you can try cf autoroot
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Thank you
But as I commented on my first post here, nada, nothing, I have tried the Phillz, the CF-auto-root, downgrade, with the original cable and others, with and without the sim card and/or sd card inserted (all of this with usb debug on in the developers settings) i dont really understand why, everything I try goes to fail and soft brick, only recuperable with Kies and full wipe...
Mine is the MS-G900T with the latest firmware :S is very weird, isn't the first time I root a phone (Galaxy Vibrant and Blaze, Nexus and Nexus 7) and I have flsh a lot of times and I know the for this procedure you have to follow each letter step by step!
I'm start thinking that probably is a locked bootloader... dunno...
this was easy and thank you. i downgraded with the full stock file, no data loss. grabbed mobile pro and im now at ng3 rooted. tho my e-mail will not work. might have to factory reset the device.

Accidentally updated rooted phone

how do I root it again? ive tried z4root to try to remove SU binary, but it keeps crashing and wont work, and im not sure what to do... any help would be appreciated..
Try towel root
Maduro78 said:
Try towel root
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i had it rooted using towelroot before the update, when i use it again after update, it says the phone isnt supported
Chainfire's CF Root?
If you are on NG6, you'll need to downgrade back to NC5 using Surge's Odin Tars. Once back on NC5, you can use Towelroot again. Do yourself a favor at that point and uninstall the SDM application so that your phone no longer trys to update itself automatically.
MehStrongBadMeh said:
If you are on NG6, you'll need to downgrade back to NC5 using Surge's Odin Tars. Once back on NC5, you can use Towelroot again. Do yourself a favor at that point and uninstall the SDM application so that your phone no longer trys to update itself automatically.
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i tried doing that, but now towelroot says the phone is already rooted when im back to nc5, but SU says it doesnt have the binaries and cant install it
Did you use the No-wipe or the Full-wipe? If you used the No-wipe then that may be the problem. You may need to use the full wipe to make it work.
MehStrongBadMeh said:
Did you use the No-wipe or the Full-wipe? If you used the No-wipe then that may be the problem. You may need to use the full wipe to make it work.
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it worked thank you very much

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