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Thought I'd try to start a general Telus thread since there's stuff spread all over the place. Hope that's OK mods.
I bought my Telus Amaze on the second day out. Haven't tried to unlock the bootloader until now. Went through the HTCdev method and it failed. After submitting the hex code the dev site indicated it failed. No error code. Is there a solution?
I had trouble with the hexcode aswell, but I believe I just kept trying and it worked its self out, the htcdev website was being a dink half the time. I'm pretty sure there are other methods to unlock it
This is how I did it http://www.techzek.com/unlock-htc-amaze-4g%e2%80%99s-boot-loader/
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Unlock support for the Telus Amaze had been removed several weeks ago. There has been many request made to HTC for assistance. Last I seen on their Facebook page is that they are "working on it" ...no eta.
I've had the phone since day one and only decided to do the htcdev unlock after It had been removed.
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Trevorhimself said:
Unlock support for the Telus Amaze had been removed several weeks ago. There has been many request made to HTC for assistance. Last I seen on their Facebook page is that they are "working on it" ...no eta.
I've had the phone since day one and only decided to do the htcdev unlock after It had been removed.
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Yeah, tried to unlock several times now and no go. I don't understand why they would remove support for Telus when adding support for tmobile. It sucks. I can't help but wonder if Telus has something to do with it. Didn't HTC promise to unlock all future bootloaders? It makes no sense to allow it for one carrier but not another.
wow im glad i unlocked mine the first day i got it, this beastmod rom is awesome.
So, I called HTC Canada to ask about unlocking the bootloader. I explained that I had attempted to unlock and it had failed. She said, "It should work, hold the line a minute." She then came back on and said I don't see the Telus model listed under supported devices. I pointed out that prior to the tmobile being added the telus version could be unlocked, but now it can't. She had nothing to say. I asked if HTC is working on adding it. Her response was, "All I can do is refer you to the htcdev website." Basically, she knew nothing and was totally useless. She implied that all I can do is wait and hope. While I love the phone, I'm now regretting buying it due to lack of support from htc.
So unless things change, there's no way I'll ever have ICS on my phone since I know from experience that Telus never has any interest in updating their phones.
I decided to be persistent and have emailed htc regarding the bootloader. Here is the series of responses. My initial question was: Attempts to unlock the bootloader fail. When will the Telus Amaze be added? I thought HTC made a commitment to unlock all bootloaders.
Response 1. Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at HTC about the Bootloader for your HTC Amaze, Mark.
Here at HTC we encourage owners of our many devices to use their phones to their full potential. For many owners this involves unlocking the bootloader to experiment with different device ROMs. Although this is not something we would encourage everyone to do, we recognize that many cellphone users with a technical background may wish to do this with their device so that they can optimize the functionality of their device and customize it to suit their needs.
While we can't directly assist you with the process, because of the great demand from our customers we have provided you with the tools you will need to get the process started. Our developer site can be accessed at http://htcdev.com/devcenter. Once the bootloader for your device is available, it will be posted to this site.
This being said, HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. If your device is listed as unsupported, we would suggest you follow up with your mobile operator to let them know your interest in unlocking the bootloader.
Thank you for your interest in HTC and our devices. As always, we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have from 6am to 1am EST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358.
Sincerely,
Tara
HTC
My Response: Thank you for your response to my question about unlocking the bootloader. I just want to be clear about your answer. Are you saying that the bootloader is currently not unlockable because TELUS has placed restrictions which prevent me from unlocking my phone? I was under the impression that I bought an HTC phone, not a TELUS phone. Are you saying that HTC is waiting for permission or information from TELUS before it will add the TELUS Amaze to the htcdev site and make it unlockable. If so, do you know if TELUS has indicated a willingness to do this and it is forthcoming? If not I will be returning my HTC phone for a Samsung which is fully rootable.
Thanks again for your assistance.
HTC Response 2: Thank you for your response, Mark. Please allow us to clarify.
When it comes to the bootloader for each device, all the information we have at this time is that once the bootloader for your device is available it will be posted to our developer site, which can be accessed at http://htcdev.com/devcenter.
Unfortunately we cannot provide a timeframe for the release of the HTC Amaze bootloader, Mark. We do apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause, and we thank you again for contacting HTC.
My response: Thanks again for your quick response.
Sorry to be so persistent but I just want to be sure I understand. Does a team at htcdev.com (or one associated with it) develop the bootloader, or does it come from the provider (Telus)? Would contacting Telus make any difference or are they just going to tell me that it is HTC who must make it available and that Telus has nothing to do with it.
Thanks for your patience.
HTC response: Thank you for your prompt reply Mark.
HTC, not your carrier, is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.
For more information on unlocking the bootloader please feel free to visit our developer page at www.htcdev.com. We apologize as we here at Technical Support cannot, and do not support the bootloader unlocking of any HTC device.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you Mark. Keep in mind that we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358.
My last response: I'm sorry but you are not answering my question, but simply repeating an apparent canned response. Please explain what "operator restrictions" are. Aren't I the operator? By operator do you mean carrier? The Tmobile Amaze is unlockable but the Telus Amaze is not. Is that because Tmobile allows it but Telus doesn't?
All I really want is a straight answer as to why this is the case. How are the phones different given that prior to the Tmobile being added to the htcdev site one could unlock the Telus Amaze too. Since the Tmobile was added the Telus will not unlock.
Please provide a straight and clear answer. I am rapidly losing faith in HTC. Given the recent court case loss to Apple, HTC cannot afford to alienate customers. I want to remain loyal but I feel I am being given the run-around.
UPDATE: Htc's last reply: We apologize if you feel that we are not providing you with enough information regarding the unlocking of the bootloader. However; we here at Technical Support really do not have that much information regarding this issue. This is on the development side of things that we do not have access to or clearance for. We do not support or trouble shoot this area of development. This is really a hands off area for us.
With regards to your question regarding "operator restrictions". This is a restriction based on the carrier, not the end user. We apologize as we are unable to elaborate any further on this issue. Again, for more information on unlocking the bootloader please feel free to visit our developer page at www.htcdev.com.
So who know's where we stand on this. Maybe HTC's right hand is working on it but their left hand doesn't know. Or maybe Telus has no intention of allowing us to unlock our bootloader. I guess we wait. The GSII is looking better and better at this point.
I've gotten a call from HTC support and received the same canned answers as well as direction to get in touch with Telus' support system.
I basically told the lady that their support staff isn't going to be able to tell me any more than she could and that I would really appreciate it if she could pass my request on to her supervisor and from there on the development side of things so I could get a solid answer as to wether or not this is a software related issue, or a "Telus has told us not to unlock their phones" issue.
If its the latter I can call them and start up a storm of curses and complaints, but until I do get a solid answer, I'll have telus and htc sending me back and forth to each others support lines.
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Here is what I got from telus
I spoke with our Data and Network Assistance Team and they have advised that what you're inquiring about is all based on what HTC plans to do. In this instance, you may wish to contact HTC directly for any further information:
- 1-866-449-8356
- Web site: www.htc.com
- E-mail: [email protected]
Please note that once any software upgrade is available, it will be listed on our Web site, therefore, you can periodically click on this link and in the upper right hand corner you'll see notification about software updates:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/client_help/index.shtml
sbalko said:
Here is what I got from telus
I spoke with our Data and Network Assistance Team and they have advised that what you're inquiring about is all based on what HTC plans to do. In this instance, you may wish to contact HTC directly for any further information:
- 1-866-449-8356
- Web site: www.htc.com
- E-mail: [email protected]
Please note that once any software upgrade is available, it will be listed on our Web site, therefore, you can periodically click on this link and in the upper right hand corner you'll see notification about software updates:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/client_help/index.shtml
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Clearly somebody doesn't know what their talking about. Nothing will appear on Telus' website since it isn't software we are asking about. What a bunch of idiots.
This is typical. Htc says it's Telus' fault, Telus says it's htc's fault. In the meantime customers of both companies get ****ed.
Just saw this post and thought you all might be interested.
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Hey guys I just tried unlocking my mobilicity amaze 4g bootloader from htcdev.com and it just went through and I got the key with the email! :| I'm so excited YAY!
Telus and wind users you guys should try it out too. And let everyone know here.
Thanks!
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Just saw this post and thought you all might be interested.
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I just got another msg back from HTC stating the usual "we're working on it" and recommended I speak with Telus to ensure they are away that the unlocked bootloader is an interest of their customers...
Gotta love the game of pass the buck!
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Just tried it and it failed as usual. Blank error msg. I see that the Wind and Mobilicity Amaze are both now listed but the Telus is not. This leads me to believe that is it Telus who is holding things up for us. Hope it comes soon.
marleyfan61 said:
Just tried it and it failed as usual. Blank error msg. I see that the Wind and Mobilicity Amaze are both now listed but the Telus is not. This leads me to believe that is it Telus who is holding things up for us. Hope it comes soon.
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It is up and running now. I just finished unlocking my Telus Amaze.
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It is up and running now. I just finished unlocking my Telus Amaze.
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Hey, thanks for posting this. Although they still haven't listed the Telus Amaze on their supported devices list it actually worked for me too this time. Finally I am unlocked and can root and flash.
Im on Telus as well worked for me im unlocked and rooted
Holy ****.
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Holy ****.
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Last post in this thread was 3 weeks ago. Thanks for dropping in with this enlightening and insightful post. Was there a point you wanted to make?
I'd also like to root my Telus Amaze. Has anyone figured out a work around of some sort? Reading the above posts, it seems like some of you managed to get it working via the HTCdev site. What steps did you guys take exactly in order to get it working?
Thanks in advance.
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I'd also like to root my Telus Amaze. Has anyone figured out a work around of some sort? Reading the above posts, it seems like some of you managed to get it working via the HTCdev site. What steps did you guys take exactly in order to get it working?
Thanks in advance.
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Go to the HTCdev site above, sign up for a free account if you don't have one, log in with it and go to "Unlock bootloader" follow the instructions on the screen and they will walk you through the rest.
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I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day.
HTC, Samsung etc has a lot more leverage and money.
Since Moto was on the brink of bancrupcy for a long time, I guess they signed some panic-treaty.
The rest of the world isn't getting the 4g razr either.
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
milf33 said:
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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That was what I have been reading on some other forums.
milf33 said:
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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How long after, a year two years?
nerdslogic said:
I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
Now, if there's one thing we all know about Moto, it's that they're terrible with dates. So if you're looking forward to it, don't expect it until the ICS update, because I doubt they will make an update just for the sake of unlocking bootloaders. They originally DID say that ICS was coming later this year, after all. I don't know if they'll fight for it as hard as Google/HTC did to get Verizon to agree with them, though. The way they have it worded is very... laid-back sounding. Kind of more like a "hey is this okay? no? alright we won't do that" approach
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
thats not a promise just a statement :/
Agreed.
Unlocking bootloader is a simple thing. Knowing Moto's track record and their laxness on this phone, how can we believe that ICS is even going to come this year, if at all?
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If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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Thanks for the advice....that is exactly what I did
Sent from my unlocked Nexus on XDA premium.
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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like I said....nexus and now all HTC devices are being unlocked.....only Motorola's are not
Sent from my unlocked Nexus on XDA premium.
Shadowdancer123 said:
Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day
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Then care to explain why the Motorola milestone was encrypted, while the Droid wasn't? I can count the number of un-encrypted devices that Motorola has released...worldwide with one hand.
If Verizon is against unlocked bootloaders then why are they allowing the galaxy nexus on their network? Or allowing HTC to unlock their devices?
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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It's more corporate laziness than actually the carriers decision. Honestly, Motorola must be hiding something in their phones to be so uptight about unlocking the bootloader.
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I really dont get why people complains about Motorola. As I know the decision to get this phone its our, Im agree with you in the idea that Motorola its making a really mistake blocking the bootloader but as I tell you before the decision its yours. Simply dont get the phone.
We need your help to unlock all Motorola bootloaders.
Help us by signing the petition to achieve 7500 signatures.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
Regards.
Have we not been over this 100 times already, its not up to the OM's it is the vendors.
Lol. Idiots will be idiots
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And that's why HTC and Sony Ericsson have been unlocking the bootloaders of their phones right?
You obviously don't have a clue so please stop replying nonsense!
Why don't you just show some support and sign the damn petition so that we can at least have a chance of finally being heard...
halfdriven said:
Have we not been over this 100 times already, its not up to the OM's it is the vendors.
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Lol. Idiots will be idiots
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The answer to your post.
HTC is going to unlock bootloaders for their future devices. And that could lead to loosing partnership with many carriers. As for existing phones - here is what I've asked to motorola support:
Customer By Web Form (Artur Korobeynyk) 26/01/2012 04.19 PM
Hi! I've just purchased your Motorola Photon 4G device of a Sprint Carrier here in Ukraine. It is a used phone, but in my country I have no other option. Best of your devices (like Photon, some Droids) are not available officially here as those are bound to some US carriers. And I wanted Photon so much. I read somewhere that Motorola is capable of unlocking devices for use with any sim card with some specific activation code. If that is true, than how can I get this kind of service (of course I understand that it should not be free of charge)
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Response Via Email (Adriana) 27/01/2012 12.33 PM
Customer Reference number:120127-003406
Dear Mr. Korobeynyk,
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
In response to your query, please note that Motorola is not unlocking devices, this network provider who locked the phone to their SIM cards should do this. You can contact them for unlocking code or you can try to contact repair center in Ukraine ( +380442963572 )
Kind regards,
Adriana
Motorola Mobility
+7 (499) 9228668
Beach_Head said:
And that's why HTC and Sony Ericsson have been unlocking the bootloaders of their phones right?
You obviously don't have a clue so please stop replying nonsense!
Why don't you just show some support and sign the damn petition so that we can at least have a chance of finally being heard...
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HTC unclocked and had repercussions, one being Sprint never approved it.
The petition will get no where when aimed at OM's, if you really understood it you would focus on vendors. They set the requirements, one being they do not want rouge devices on their networks.
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If that were true then why are they launching the Galaxy Nexus which has an unlockable/relockable bootloader?
I suggest you brush up on the subject a little more seeing as your "understanding" of it is a mis-understanding of it!
FYI, an unlocked bootloader won't do **** to the carrier or its network otherwise, Google wouldn't be doing it via their Nexus devices. And CM development would've stopped at version 1 instead of being at version 9 right now...
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HTC unclocked and had repercussions, one being Sprint never approved it.
The petition will get no where when aimed at OM's, if you really understood it you would focus on vendors. They set the requirements, one being they do not want rouge devices on their networks.
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halfdriven said:
HTC unclocked and had repercussions, one being Sprint never approved it.
The petition will get no where when aimed at OM's, if you really understood it you would focus on vendors. They set the requirements, one being they do not want rouge devices on their networks.
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Dude, you spent more effort being a tool than just signing the petition (or not).
It most likely isn't Motorola but the carriers. In an article about the new Droid Razr Developer Edition which can be pre-ordered now, Moto states that "consumer version of the Droid Razr is heavily protected against third-party ROMs, which Motorola says is necessary in order to "continue meeting our carrier and regulatory obligations,".
If you aren't aware this DE version comes unlocked and supplied with no warranty. It is supposed to be coming to a carrier in the US in the future.
What this tells me is the manufacturers have no problem unlocking devices and the carrier determines whether it can be unlocked.
Just some food for thought.
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It most likely isn't Motorola but the carriers. In an article about the new Droid Razr Developer Edition which can be pre-ordered now, Moto states that "consumer version of the Droid Razr is heavily protected against third-party ROMs, which Motorola says is necessary in order to "continue meeting our carrier and regulatory obligations,".
If you aren't aware this DE version comes unlocked and supplied with no warranty. It is supposed to be coming to a carrier in the US in the future.
What this tells me is the manufacturers have no problem unlocking devices and the carrier determines whether it can be unlocked.
Just some food for thought.
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+1
tools (6bowmans, Beach_Head) take note
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+1
tools (6bowmans, Beach_Head) take note
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Hey genius, if you had noticed, I thanked CCallahan for his comment. He and Beach_Head are at least adding differing opinions based on some facts. You (nor I for that matter) are not. Believe it or not, I tend to agree with you and CCallahan. However, Beach_Head has some valid points. Getting back to the OP, either sign the petition, or if not, provide some value in your response/rebuttal. That's all I have to say about that.
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Have we not been over this 100 times already, its not up to the OM's it is the vendors.
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Guess you missed my first post
dantonel said:
We need your help to unlock all Motorola bootloaders.
Help us by signing the petition to achieve 7500 signatures.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
Regards.
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Jeez - do people still think that online petitions do anything?
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Jeez - do people still think that online petitions do anything?
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Maybe not but it for sure doesn't hurt anything to do it and if peeps want to spend some of their time working on it then why not.
I support anyone trying to make a change even if it doesn't result in much. At least it is showing some positive community movement.
Haha. Motorola are full of it. Why are Samsung selling so many phones on most networks? Motorola are milking the consumer so they don't have to go through the amount of returns Samsung have.
Is it morally wrong to make use of the unlocked bootloaders, brick your phone and claim warranty? Maybe but very low percentage do and this could be user repairable if they made their chips load USB loader in hardware as a complete backup.
Maybe also could have a hardware bootloader which loads boot information from nand like PC's. That would make them virtually unbrickable without hardware damage. Win win.
Moto just wanna lay excuses for more money.
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Always take what Moto says with a grain of salt...
I was there when the first petition was made late 2010: Motorola Bootloader Groubal
We generated 11,303 signatures and Moto said they'd provide an unlock solution before the end of 2011.
It's 2012 now and nothing. That Razr DE phone is a slap in the face for everyone that relied on their promise for an unlock solution for their devices. Not to mention to the first adopters who bought the Razr when it launched and our now faced with the Maxx and that DE phone.
HTC and Sony Ericsson were taking the same heat and yet as early as May 2011, they had already launched their unlock solution. A solution that affected new and current devices at the time. So if it were really a carrier decision, wouldn't the carriers have had a field day when those solutions were announced?
And this year, Verizon, T-Mo, and AT&T still have HTC and Sony Ericsson phones in their line up. If a device with an unlocked bootloader would cause issues on their network, then why would they continue using devices from those manufacturers?
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It most likely isn't Motorola but the carriers. In an article about the new Droid Razr Developer Edition which can be pre-ordered now, Moto states that "consumer version of the Droid Razr is heavily protected against third-party ROMs, which Motorola says is necessary in order to "continue meeting our carrier and regulatory obligations,".
If you aren't aware this DE version comes unlocked and supplied with no warranty. It is supposed to be coming to a carrier in the US in the future.
What this tells me is the manufacturers have no problem unlocking devices and the carrier determines whether it can be unlocked.
Just some food for thought.
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All your scoreboarding and +1's prove nothing other than your ignorance on the subject matter.
If you're looking for a tool, look in front of the mirror...
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+1
tools (6bowmans, Beach_Head) take note
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Lol. Idiots will be idiots
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I know that you mean no harm, (let's not start an argument here), but some people don't realize that...
Signed.......... no matter the outcome. Took 5 seconds.
Petitions do work to some extent especially with the recent Stop SOPA/PIPA Campaign, however it only works with those who have money and are able to get enough media exposure. It never hurts to try.
I signed my digital John Hancock.
Hey Beach_Head, lets agree to disagree and move on. The discussion has been fun but like 6bowmans said were really not adding anything to the topic. Hope there are no hard feelings. My apologies to everyone.
I believe this has been posted before, but I wanted to bring it back to life.
I received a new phone from Asurion (I'm on Verizon.) today. It came prepacked with MK2.
You can imagine the frustration with this that I had after having AOSP KitKat on my previous GS4, and I'm willing to do just about anything to bring the new one to a firmware in which I can unlock the bootloader.
Anyway, here is the Change.org link: http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...ock-the-bootloader-of-the-verizon-s4-sch-i545
Were only 340 signatures away.
Good luck
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Well I signed it what the hell. I just don't think they care though.
They're too much into the big picture to care about us folks who want to flash ROMs . they made the dev s4 to address this, I think that's where they will stay. They'll just end up losing people like us as customers as we move to the other carriers that don't lock them down.
Hey I'm with you though... Why not try. Doesn't cost anything.
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I agree. The big picture is what Samsung cares about the most. (They are turning more and more into Apple everyday.)
However, maybe with a stroke of good luck and 1000 petition signatures...
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From what I know its not Samsung its Verizon att etc , if I buy the international version of this phone its bootloader is unlocked somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
swordmastr54 said:
From what I know its not Samsung its Verizon att etc , if I buy the international version of this phone its bootloader is unlocked somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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To be entirely honest, I'm not sure. Although you do sound correct.
However, I'm sure if this petition make 1000 signatures, Change.org would get it sent to the leads of the departments in both companies. It's called CHANGE.org for a reason, and if they weren't to do that, I would be genuinely surprised. I guess we'll just have to get it signed and see what happens! :fingers-crossed:
swordmastr54 said:
From what I know its not Samsung its Verizon att etc , if I buy the international version of this phone its bootloader is unlocked somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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Also, Knox was created by Samsung either way. Meaning that they technically could come out with a BL unlock, if they really wanted to for Verizon customers. (unless legal issues?)
I'm not sure, but I suspect Samsung is looking to expand into a corporate environment where security is king. I can see the possibility of selling unlocked bootloaders to those customers who know the risks involved, but their challenge is to protect the security of their products. I don't know where Blackberry is with the ability to "root" their phones, but when I was on the Storm, all kinds of people were looking to unlock their devices and were stymied by the security measures in place.
enterprise clients who represents the single largest bulk of cell phone sales vs those who mod their phones are driving the security for good reason...modders can purchase the dev edition with an unlocked BL if they want to...
safestrap is our option currently and gives us of plenty of choices.
retrogrymlyn said:
Also, Knox was created by Samsung either way. Meaning that they technically could come out with a BL unlock, if they really wanted to for Verizon customers. (unless legal issues?)
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Well of course they could, Samsung does the actual "locking" of course. But it's the carrier that makes them do it.
To be honest 1,000 signatures is a joke compared to millions of enterprise customers.
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Barack Obama will personally address this issue if we get enough signatures!
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Please unlock the bootloader of the SCH-I545, respectively. We wouldn't want this device to be retired due to the fact that the people are not fully satisfied with it in its current state.
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I'm not signing that. It doesn't even make sense. ITYM "respectfully." And, they're not going to retire a phone because people are not fully satisfied, they retire phones when they don't sell or a newer model comes out.
And why not call it what Verizon calls it - the Samsung Galaxy S4? Do you think some VP keeps track of the phones by model number?
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Barack Obama will personally address this issue if we get enough signatures!
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wrong site lol
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Such writing. Much horrible. Wow. If you want to make a petition you may want to proofread and/or learn the English language first. However, even if the petition was properly worded it would not help to unlock the bootloader any more than me praying for it to be unlocked. Nice try though.
mike.s said:
I'm not signing that. It doesn't even make sense. ITYM "respectfully." And, they're not going to retire a phone because people are not fully satisfied, they retire phones when they don't sell or a newer model comes out.
And why not call it what Verizon calls it - the Samsung Galaxy S4? Do you think some VP keeps track of the phones by model number?
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Not to mention that from a hardware standpoint, this phone is still pretty good a year after its release.
Funny fact is the verizon rep spoke yesterday to us saying "all of our phones are unlocked and are free to do what you want with them"
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Funny fact is the verizon rep spoke yesterday to us saying "all of our phones are unlocked and are free to do what you want with them"
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That's true from a carrier perspective. He was referring to "SIM locks," which prevent a phone from being used on a different carrier. People who've dealt with GSM phones are more familiar with the concept - other than some pre-pay phones, I'm not aware of any US CDMA ones which were ever locked (and they didn't have SIMs, so it's not a true SIM lock, they did it in a different way).
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Funny fact is the verizon rep spoke yesterday to us saying "all of our phones are unlocked and are free to do what you want with them"
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they are unlocked from carrier veiwpoint
again, its enterprise customers which number in the millions vs modders who number in the thousands who drive this.......
if you want to mod a phone, a developer edition is available
I'm sorry but I'm completely confused by your attitude toward this. Here you are on the largest modding website known to man and by your post count you've been here for quite a while. Yet you solution is "buy a dev phone".
I guess that might make sense for the devs who are creating roms for the community, but what about there userbase? Are you saying every single person on these boards (with a locked bootloader) should purchase a dev phone? I mean you might as well just close the site at that point because the userbase is going to dwindle, and then you've just got dev's making roms for devs.
I bought this phone, it is now my property and i should have the option to do with it what i please.
I guess I'll have to start buying dev car's and dev computers when i want to make mods to them too with that kind of attitude.
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if you want to mod a phone, a developer edition is available
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void4ever said:
I'm sorry but I'm completely confused by your attitude toward this. Here you are on the largest modding website known to man and by your post count you've been here for quite a while. Yet you solution is "buy a dev phone".
I guess that might make sense for the devs who are creating roms for the community, but what about there userbase? Are you saying every single person on these boards (with a locked bootloader) should purchase a dev phone? I mean you might as well just close the site at that point because the userbase is going to dwindle, and then you've just got dev's making roms for devs.
I bought this phone, it is now my property and i should have the option to do with it what i please.
I guess I'll have to start buying dev car's and dev computers when i want to make mods to them too with that kind of attitude.
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It's not about the attitude, it's about not much could be done to get Verizon to side with us in giving us unlocked bootloaders. Up to this day there has not being an unlock for the S4, Note 3, or newly updated S3. With it being so tight the only way to go is to buy a developer edition. User base or not, the answer for a bootloader unlock isn't going to just fall out of the sky the chances only get slimmer by the holes that get patched up from each loophole. Of course I see your side of your case but I also see why he'd say buy have a dev phone or simply jump carriers or a different phone that can be unlocked.
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First off I know this has been done before so please either help or keep your negative comments to yourself. Thank you
So I started a petition to AT&T to try to have somthing done about the locked bootloaders on devices purchased from them. And as I've read you guys with the m8 can unlock your bootloader. Not through att but other sources. So I ask you to put your John Hancock on the petition and try to help all of us with att devices so that we can enjoy the freedom that android OS was made for. Link below, I and the development community thank you for your support.
https://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
Also I've sent c.e.o Randall Stephenson a e-mail but have had no reply (to be expected). Samsung on the other hand at least replied.
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GDofWR420 said:
And as I've read you guys with the m8 can unlock your bootloader. Not through att but other sources.
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The boot loader unlock for the M8 is through HTC and with AT&Ts blessing. It's not a hack.
Just want to set the facts straight.
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redpoint73 said:
The boot loader unlock for the M8 is through HTC and with AT&Ts blessing. It's not a hack.
Just want to set the facts straight.
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Nothing to set straight. I never said att offered nor did they impede your device from being able to have that service through a third party. But for us Sammy users it's different. We have no third party offering this service and att is not wanting to let Sammy users unlock bootloaders though support software on their site. So we just want what you have, freedom to do with what we purchased. I do thank you for taking the time to reply and hopefully you took the time to sign.
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I signed the petition. I don't think ANY vendor should have their Android devices locked. I also don't think any vendor should be expected to un-brick our devices, should we jack them up. I'm the same way with Apple's junk. I jailbroke every Apple product I have had as well.
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I signed the petition. I don't think ANY vendor should have their Android devices locked. I also don't think any vendor should be expected to un-brick our devices, should we jack them up. I'm the same way with Apple's junk. I jailbroke every Apple product I have had as well.
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That's all I'm asking is for the option to willingly void our warranty if we so choose to. And if we brick our device then yes, no way should at&t be held accountable for your or my actions should we fubar our device. I thank you for your support in signing the petition.:thumbup:
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