Hi,
XBMC is coming out for Android and it looks like it's requiring ICS or higher for proper support. This is driving me to upgrade my Flyer from HC. At the same time, I want to retain front facing camera support as I use my Flyer for Skype & SIP video calling.
The Dexter Jellybean ROM looks really good but it appears that there is no camera support (that's not knocking the work he's done - I appreciate there is a technical issue here)?
Does anyone know if Camera support is coming for this ROM? If not - can anyone recommend an ICS ROM.
Thanks
Xbmc works fine with flyer on gb
Flyer
mcord11758 said:
Xbmc works fine with flyer on gb
Flyer
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You're right - and it works on my HC Flyer as well. I've heard that development is going to be focussed on ICS and above only though - so I guess there 'may' be issues as the application develops. I currently have problems with my HD Homerun stream dropping out and was wondering if a newer Android build was a better foundation stone.
I'm starting to see one or two other apps that are not supported on HC as well. It would just be cool if I could upgrade without losing the front facing camera but I appreciate it's not everyones priority.
Xbmc for android does not support 1080 hd as it does not have hw acceleration enabled. There are sides builds out there that use external players like mx that can provide hw acceleration
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I have looked all over but can't seem to find a specific answer to this question. Does the latest build of CM have hardware acceleration? I know full hardware acceleration is not possible because Nvidia is withholding drivers from us. I have read that the CM team put together "partial hardware acceleration." What exactly does this mean? Thanks for the answers.
As far as I know, no. In fact, its one of the reasons I'm considering a throwback to Froyo, as it is the only place to find 100% acceleration.
Dishe said:
As far as I know, no. In fact, its one of the reasons I'm considering a throwback to Froyo, as it is the only place to find 100% acceleration.
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is there a CM6 ROM with full acceleration or you mean stock tnt?
fosser2 said:
I have looked all over but can't seem to find a specific answer to this question. Does the latest build of CM have hardware acceleration? I know full hardware acceleration is not possible because Nvidia is withholding drivers from us. I have read that the CM team put together "partial hardware acceleration." What exactly does this mean? Thanks for the answers.
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From what I gather, from reading other posts, the CM team was able to "accelerate the hardware" without "hardware acceleration" In other words, they were able to overclock to the point where the system would accelerate the video hardware. Think of it in terms of Windows, you can allocate more of the system memory to "push" certain aspects, be it video, cpu, etc. The problem with this is that to gain the "hardware acceleration" they needed to lose performance somewhere else.
is there a CM6 ROM with full acceleration or you mean stock tnt?
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He means any froyo rom. CM is a gingerbread based rom. Calkulin/Clemsyn, Brilliant Corners/Vegan 5.1.1, TNT Lite/Mountain Laurel, Gadam/Century eyes...take your pick, there are lots of Froyo roms out there. The Froyo roms are the only ones that will have 100% video hardware acceleration, because it is the only OS that NVidea provides drivers for.
i use beastly's rom, its non tnt, but is closest to stock that i have seen. not cm6.
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He means any froyo rom. CM is a gingerbread based rom. Calkulin/Clemsyn, Brilliant Corners/Vegan 5.1.1, TNT Lite/Mountain Laurel, Gadam/Century eyes...take your pick, there are lots of Froyo roms out there. The Froyo roms are the only ones that will have 100% video hardware acceleration, because it is the only OS that NVidea provides drivers for.
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CM just means Cyanogen Mod, CM6.x is Froyo, CM7.x is Gingerbread.
I was asking if there is a CM6.x ROM with working hw acceleration and basically asking if the limitation was the OS version, or the ROM, meaning you had to use a TnT variant which had built in drivers.
Since you list Vegan as one of the ones that has it (which is not TnT) then I have to assume a CM6.x ROM would also have working hw acceleration, is this correct?
edit: The reason I want CM so bad is because it is the only ROM where netflix works, so I could not only have hw acceleration but also netflix streaming in the same ROM.
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CM just means Cyanogen Mod, CM6.x is Froyo, CM7.x is Gingerbread.
I was asking if there is a CM6.x ROM with working hw acceleration and basically asking if the limitation was the OS version, or the ROM, meaning you had to use a TnT variant which had built in drivers.
Since you list Vegan as one of the ones that has it (which is not TnT) then I have to assume a CM6.x ROM would also have working hw acceleration, is this correct?
edit: The reason I want CM so bad is because it is the only ROM where netflix works, so I could not only have hw acceleration but also netflix streaming in the same ROM.
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Many people (myself included) have been complaining about this very problem for weeks (if not longer). Netflix only works 100% with CM7.03, so far. Which is Gingerbread. Hardware acceleration has only been fully enabled on Froyo roms.
You can get netflix "half working" with other roms using various patches, which basically will enable it to work, but there will be video artifact problems (big green line through video, colors shifted position ie. red and greens don't line up, etc). Vegan Rom Gingerbread edition can be hacked to work with it as well, however after you basically replace a bunch of libraries with the ones used on Cm7.03, which all just goes back to the following: Netflix really only works on CM7.03.
I'm currently using that rom exclusively because of netflix support, however the jittery performance I'm experiencing elsewhere (like, even opening the app drawer) is driving me crazy. I know the Tegra 2 shouldn't stutter like that.
Having real, bonafide Gingerbread on this device would be a g0dsend, as far as I'm concerned- not only would netflix, etc, work perfectly fine with full hardware acceleration, but also the new Skype video chat.
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Many people (myself included) have been complaining about this very problem for weeks (if not longer). Netflix only works 100% with CM7.03, so far. You can get it "half working" with other roms using various patches, which basically will enable it to work, but there will be video artifact problems (big green line through video, colors shifted position ie. red and greens don't line up, etc). Vegan Rom Gingerbread edition can be hacked to work with it as well, however after you basically replace a bunch of libraries with the ones used on Cm7.03, which all just goes back to the following: Netflix really only works on CM7.03.
I'm currently using that rom exclusively because of netflix support, however the jittery performance I'm experiencing elsewhere (like, even opening the app drawer) is driving me crazy. I know the Tegra 2 shouldn't stutter like that.
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I've been having problems with netflix on CM7.1, can you point me to the exact ROM you're using?
actually, is there even a CM6.x ROM for the gTab? If not, why not?
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I've been having problems with netflix on CM7.1, can you point me to the exact ROM you're using?
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On 7.1, I think you need to edit your build prop to make the app think you're an htc device or something.
On 7.0.3, it just worked out of the box.
apologies, I hadn't realized that there was a froyo version of CM...I've only ever known the GB one for the G-Tablet. I've never used it, however, because frankly (and my opinion is known on this) Netflix itself, is not worth having a specific rom, JUST to run it.
WHat REALLY needs to be done is people putting pressure on Netflix to develop a Froyo version of their app. When the app first came out, I read that they were simply testing the waters with the version(s) that were released, and that future development would be based on those reactions. Perhaps there is a way to contact NEtflix, explain your situation, and try to convince them to develop an app tat does work with the tegra 2 hardware and froyo OS.
Rather than modifying your firmware to work with the app, has anyone attempted to modify the app to work with the firmware? I know, personally, I've had problems running most popcap game releases. I'm not going to start messing with my firmware ot play Chuzzle, though...I'll just wait until Popcap releases versions/updates that work better. (oh, and ofr me, the entertainment value of Chuzzle and Netflix are basically the same, lol)
Thanks for the reply's. Now all we need is viewsonic to push nvidia to release the 2.3+drivers...
So I currently have a Thrive but looking to get a Flyer since I miss my old 7 inch Samsung tab and how portable it was but I have a couple questions?
1. Is there a difference between the wifi HTC flyer and Sprint's Evo View other then the 3g radio? (different rom, codecs, stock apps, color?)
2. Once flashed to 3.2 is there a way to get back to 2.3 if needed (US model)?
3.Will it run apps made samsung 7 tab or dell 7? (ex: Gameloft HD game for
Samsung Tab)
4.What codecs does it play natively? (H.264,avi,mov,mkv,divx?)
5.Is there tv-out?
6.Are the speakers and good/loud?
7.What the best Honeycomb and Custom 2.3 roms out now (I'm asking for experienced opinion for this one)?
8.When on Honeycomb can it run Tegra 2 app/games?
Lastly,
9. Where the cheapest place to get one (best buy has them for $300)?
If you can answer some or all or these it would really help me decide.
I trust XDA members opinions over stupid reviewers on the web.
Thanks Everyone
The Stock ROMs are the same for wifi or 3g.
The processor is not Tegra 2 so cannot run Tegra specific apps.
Other than Samsung proprietary apps, anything that ran on the Sammy 7 should run even better on the Flyer.
As of yet if you flash to HC, you cannot go back on US wifi only models, that is being worked. All the HC ROMs have pretty much the same features and issues as they are all built from the same leaked base.
There is HDMI out via the MHL Micro USB port, requires small MHL to HDMI adapter.
As far as I know BB has the best price.
the stylus is neat, there is a Ebay source for $30.
The speakers are good, the internal Mic is excellent.
Thank you
... anyone else wanna share some input?
synplex said:
So I currently have a Thrive but looking to get a Flyer since I miss my old 7 inch Samsung tab and how portable it was but I have a couple questions?
1. Is there a difference between the wifi HTC flyer and Sprint's Evo View other then the 3g radio? (different rom, codecs, stock apps, color?)
2. Once flashed to 3.2 is there a way to get back to 2.3 if needed (US model)?
3.Will it run apps made samsung 7 tab or dell 7? (ex: Gameloft HD game for
Samsung Tab)
4.What codecs does it play natively? (H.264,avi,mov,mkv,divx?)
5.Is there tv-out?
6.Are the speakers and good/loud?
7.What the best Honeycomb and Custom 2.3 roms out now (I'm asking for experienced opinion for this one)?
8.When on Honeycomb can it run Tegra 2 app/games?
Lastly,
9. Where the cheapest place to get one (best buy has them for $300)?
If you can answer some or all or these it would really help me decide.
I trust XDA members opinions over stupid reviewers on the web.
Thanks Everyone
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1. Yes. 3G Flyer is GSM, for AT&T, T-Mobile, stuff like that. Evo View is only for Sprint, and Wifi is, well, Wifi only.
2. No there is no way to go back. @globatron is working on a downgrade method, but it is not complete yet.
3. Well if it is a game made specifically for the Tab's hardware then it may or may not run. But most apps (non-gameloft) will work fine, even better than the Tab.
4. DigitalMD has a great explanation:
DigitalMD said:
As far as video formats, the Flyer supports all the standard Android supported formats. The stock player will only play standard formats that it has built-in codecs for.
AVI and MKV are not formats, they are containers and it depends on what is actually inside. For non-standard formats there are a number of 3rd party players on the android market that will play just about anything but if it does not match a hardware codec, performance may be degraded, but it will play.
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5. Again, haven't tried it out, but look here: http://www.myhtcflyer.com/htc-flyer-accessories/anyone-tried-tv-out-yet/
6. Speakers are amazing. They work great, no fuzz or anything.
7. HC, I don't know, all ROMS are really almost the same. GB Roms, IMHO, LeeDroid + FlyHigh are the best, they are both fast and have good Overclocks. Westfire is OK. This is personal choice.
8. Tegra 2 is hardware. The Flyer doesn't have Tegra 2, so no go.
9. Best Buy. Flyer for $299, Pen from ebay they are pretty cheap.
As far as video formats, the Flyer supports all the standard Android supported formats. The stock player will only play standard formats that it has built-in codecs for.
HTC Flyer Supported Audio formats
aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
HTC Flyer Supported Video formats
3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9), .avi (MP4 ASP and MP3), .xvid (MP4 ASP and MP3)
The stock player does not recognize the .mkv extension. That does not mean there is not a comparable accelerated codec necessarily.
Because...........
AVI and MKV are not formats, they are containers and it depends on what is actually inside. For example a .mkv file could contain a standard mp4 format. For non-standard formats there are a number of 3rd party players on the android market that will play just about anything but if it does not match a hardware codec, performance may be degraded, but it will play.
If you are rooted, you can install ChainFire3D, which has a Tegra-2 plugin. If it works, you'll be able to run Tegrazone games.
I've not actually tried it on my Flyer as I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus TF anyway, but did use it on my 7" Galaxy Tab and it worked fine.
Regards,
Dave
hello,
i've seen that ics for g-tablet came out and i am thinking to try it.
but i already ahave installed Flashback Honeycomb witch looks the same like ICS.
Any ideas if there are any differences?
Honeycomb:
- No hardware acceleration
- No HD videos
- No Camera
- Flash works in some apps, but not all.
- Been around for a while and has a good dev team.
ICS:
- New kernel built from the ground up.
- Hardware acceleration works.
- HD video works.
- Flash works.
- Camera and mic not working (yet).
- HDMI output not working (yet).
- Still a work in progress with a good dev team.
A impressed as I was by the Honeycomb ROMs, I'm just too pleased with the DRH ROM.
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Come on man you really have to think about it. Hardware accelerator thats worth flashing right away. Youtube HD video will explain it all, 1080p.
Anyone know if there is a ROM out there for our lovely tablet where HDMI audio for 5.1 or even multichannel works at all?
I've been using stock since ICS came about. It sucks as they have not resolved this matter. It worked fine with Honeycomb.
Anyway, I don't feel like flashing a bunch of ROM's at this point unless it appears promising. Input very much welcome and appreciated.
Thanks all.
Hi Guys,
as I'm thinking of getting a new phone sooner or later, I was thinking how to use my Atrix and my Multimedia-Dock later on.
I never used the Lapdock mode or HDMI mirroring, but I bought the multimedia dock because it was really cheap and I can use my Atrix as a digital clock also.
So please forgive me if I'm asking questions that only work with the lapdock mode
My idea is:
I want to use the Atrix as a media-station for music (on storage and streaming).
As the multimedia dock as a 3,5mm line-out, I thought this might work. I'm on MIUI V5 with JB right now and just plugging in something in the 3,5mm line-out won't let me listen to any music, as I guess this line-out only works in lapdock-mode, because it will get the audio signal from HDMI (?).
I want to know if this might work with any rom that supports lapdock, because for the functions I want, I don't need the newest Android with the latest features.
Another function that would be awesome is to pair the Atrix via Bluetooth with other devices so the Atrix can play music via BT from other devices. Is this possible, too?
Like: Music on new phone --> BT --> Atrix connected to speakers plays music.
If there are any threats like this already, I'm really sorry, but a quick search didn't give me any results
Thanks!
P.s.: Can I put USB-storage on the multimedia dock when the Atrix is in lapdock mdoe?
Indeed, you need to go back to gb or atrics to fully use the hd dock.
You can connect any pendrive to those usb, phone will mount them.
Not sure about bt. Guess is possible
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Indeed, you need to go back to gb or atrics to fully use the hd dock.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Going back to gb won't be the problem
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I recently received back an Atrix that I purchased on behalf of a friend sometime ago. I also figured it could perhaps be of use at the mother-in-laws when my son is there. I have another account with xda though it has been so long since I used the forum to post that I could not remember my username! So I just clicked to log in via G+. Its been great seeing that such an old (at least in terms of android developement) device has still got some very good support and excellent contributers. Before my Nexus4 I had a Galaxy S and that got flashed regular from the great work that goes on here.
It didn't take much reading to work out that Atrics looked as if it would suit my needs best for some simple internet use and perhaps media viewing on the Bravia the phone will be hooked to. I am hoping I may also find an XBMC build that will be stable enough to enhance the system! So today I found the time to get the basic Atrics 2.0 up and running, One or two little bugs too work out but am sure they will have been covered already. Installed FlashFox browser to make sure flash works without any hassles and just completed a rom backup and upgrade of the kernel to 14-02-05. The difference is noticeable straight away Krystian, good work.
I'll try to keep up with my project and how it goes. How is your project working out muhski?
Thanks again to just about everyone within this forum who has posted, I narrowed initial problems down quickly due to the very useful guides and information
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So I set up everything up nicely using the atrics ROM. Due to the TV and setup at the mother in laws, using the stereo out on the dock was not viable. This forced me to roll back to Nottatrix4g for a quick fix of using the HDMI to pass sound as well as audio. As a result I have a nice portable setup which will reside at the mother in laws for my son to use and perhaps his grandad too. I kept the ROM install as slim as possible without removing any functionality that may be required if we take the system on holiday for example. I installed several addons in xbmc and went through each to check the ones that wouldn't work easily for example asking for an external player, (the ones that did work easily all diverted to mxplayer). I added both Firefox and dolphin for flash based browsing, a couple of the games he plays on my Nexus 4 and an emulator to play the games I still have from the NES. The emulator is tied into wiimote for an easier experience for him although I would have preferred a more manageable pad but since that's as good as free.
So the the real test will start tomorrow, my main concern would be the system recovering from any crashes but up to now with the exception of xbmc occasionally closing, I have only had one issue with Bluetooth and the mouse showing paired but not. I deleted the db and that resolved the issue which I was unable to replicate.
So my experience would be to tell you if a similar project was looked at, check your hardware and see how the audio can connect best. If you can only do audio with HDMI stay on 2.x.x ROM, if you can stereo from the dock into the TV by RCA's or an amplifier you can use atrics ROM or a 2.x.x based ROM. Other than this you shouldn't need to spend too long finding a good use to a redundant Atrix.
The xbmc version came from xbmcandroid as the official xbmc does no longer support tegra² chips. If your reading this regarding a newer phone then the official version may suit you better.
Thanks to everyone who has made this possible I will try and name everyone and their apps in a review of the system in the hands of the young and the old in a week or two!
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So I set up everything up nicely using the atrics ROM. Due to the TV and setup at the mother in laws, using the stereo out on the dock was not viable. This forced me to roll back to Nottatrix4g for a quick fix of using the HDMI to pass sound as well as audio. As a result I have a nice portable setup which will reside at the mother in laws for my son to use and perhaps his grandad too. I kept the ROM install as slim as possible without removing any functionality that may be required if we take the system on holiday for example. I installed several addons in xbmc and went through each to check the ones that wouldn't work easily for example asking for an external player, (the ones that did work easily all diverted to mxplayer). I added both Firefox and dolphin for flash based browsing, a couple of the games he plays on my Nexus 4 and an emulator to play the games I still have from the NES. The emulator is tied into wiimote for an easier experience for him although I would have preferred a more manageable pad but since that's as good as free.
So the the real test will start tomorrow, my main concern would be the system recovering from any crashes but up to now with the exception of xbmc occasionally closing, I have only had one issue with Bluetooth and the mouse showing paired but not. I deleted the db and that resolved the issue which I was unable to replicate.
So my experience would be to tell you if a similar project was looked at, check your hardware and see how the audio can connect best. If you can only do audio with HDMI stay on 2.x.x ROM, if you can stereo from the dock into the TV by RCA's or an amplifier you can use atrics ROM or a 2.x.x based ROM. Other than this you shouldn't need to spend too long finding a good use to a redundant Atrix.
The xbmc version came from xbmcandroid as the official xbmc does no longer support tegra² chips. If your reading this regarding a newer phone then the official version may suit you better.
Thanks to everyone who has made this possible I will try and name everyone and their apps in a review of the system in the hands of the young and the old in a week or two!
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Did you ever get around to making the list of applications used in your media center build?
Also, does the remote control work with it?