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Pretty good deal, 32Gig class 4 sandisk for only $20
http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
That's a great deal! But don't we want a faster class (like 10)?
This is a matter of debate that can be argued from many angles, most commonly Cache Vs Class. There has been lots of debating on XDA and other forums about how android functions and little to no advantage is seen. I'd really prefer this didn't turn into a debate yet again as there is plenty of places that this be read up on. I run this exact card in 3 nook colors and 4 Android phones currently in my house. never had any hickup in video playback yet.
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This is a matter of debate that can be argued from many angles, most commonly Cache Vs Class. There has been lots of debating on XDA and other forums about how android functions and little to no advantage is seen. I'd really prefer this didn't turn into a debate yet again as there is plenty of places that this be read up on. I run this exact card in 3 nook colors and 4 Android phones currently in my house. never had any hickup in video playback yet.
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know the exact threads where these debates are?
Chief Geek said:
This is a matter of debate that can be argued from many angles, most commonly Cache Vs Class. There has been lots of debating on XDA and other forums about how android functions and little to no advantage is seen. I'd really prefer this didn't turn into a debate yet again as there is plenty of places that this be read up on. I run this exact card in 3 nook colors and 4 Android phones currently in my house. never had any hickup in video playback yet.
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I wasn't gonna get into the tit for tat about speed.
But I have a legit question, how's about recording 720p? Seeing the Note is capable of it.
I usually have Class 2, that have worked very well in most of my phone/tablet devices. I rarely if ever record any video that would require any type of "high" resolution, yet.
As for playback, I've not had any issue with even the Class 2 SanDisk... YMMV with other "brands" and/or counterfeits..
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Basic write up about the usage. Article boils down if you depend heavily on apps2SD then you may want to go to class6
http://lifehacker.com/5804661/does-it-matter-what-class-micro-sd-card-i-have-in-my-android-phone
Here's a great write up on the Cache aspect.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/increase-the-reading-speed-of-your-sd-card/
And for the true nitty gritty numbers, and instructions on how to test your own card, check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
If you want to do a full on discussion then by all means please post it in the QA section, I'm not avoiding the topic, I'm avoiding a derail.
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That's a great deal! But don't we want a faster class (like 10)?
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I bought his same exact card about 6 months ago for $35. DISREGARD the "class 4" rumors and whatnot. My music and videos play at such an amazing rate you'd assume the card is an expensive high class etc etc. The only notable difference is when your copying your music/videos to the card from your computer. So what..wait acouple of hours for 4000 songs to get copied! I did and for the price how could you say no?
I seriously think Sandisc is really the best company to trust with micro SD cards
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I seriously think Sandisc is really the best company to trust with micro SD cards
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absolutely, for me they have far and away been the most consistantly fast cards. You just have to be careful, there are lots of fakes and knockoffs out there that look identical, especially on ebay. Beware anything anyone selling them without OEM packaging. I have fallen for the "these were returns, so we're selling them cheaper since they are out of package" If it's not in Sandisk authenticate packaging, I won't touch it. The 32Gb I bought at walmart a few months ago cost me $50, and that was a decent deal then.
Sorry. I didn't mean to derail the topic. I use the camera a lot for 1080P video, which uses large files and needs a fast write speed. For me, the class 6 or 10 might be better. But after reading the threads you linked to, it does seem that the Sandisk class 4 would be the best all-rounder for most people. Thanks again for the thread. I may order one and give it try anyway. I'll let you know.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to derail the topic. I use the camera a lot for 1080P video, which uses large files and needs a fast write speed. For me, the class 6 or 10 might be better. But after reading the threads you linked to, it does seem that the Sandisk class 4 would be the best all-rounder for most people. Thanks again for the thread. I may order one and give it try anyway. I'll let you know.
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I believe when recording it saves locally then once stopped it goes to perm storage, this used to be the way it was, may or may not have changed but would make sense to keep this this way.
I keep a card or two on hand loaded with movies and TV shows for when I travel or know I'll be sitting bored for awhile just incase the 32 I have installed doesn't have enough entertainment. For $20, you can't lose.
By save locally, you mean save/cache/buffer on phone then to external storage if so configured?
I doubt it would do that, as the phone's internal memory is write limited by the same limits as an SD card, correct?
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I believe when recording it saves locally then once stopped it goes to perm storage, this used to be the way it was, may or may not have changed but would make sense to keep this this way.
I keep a card or two on hand loaded with movies and TV shows for when I travel or know I'll be sitting bored for awhile just incase the 32 I have installed doesn't have enough entertainment. For $20, you can't lose.
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Def a good deal. Compare to $80 64 Class 6 card i just bought.
I like to post a good deal and LIKE to see how ppl react. Some appropriated because they just got a good deal, some will be *****y this and that because they are not free??, ... . People will never be satisfied.
Suggest to others: if you don't like it just because of ANY REASONS, swallow it then move on to the next thread. It may not be useful for you but will be useful for some others.
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By save locally, you mean save/cache/buffer on phone then to external storage if so configured?
I doubt it would do that, as the phone's internal memory is write limited by the same limits as an SD card, correct?
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I'm not real sure to be honest man, it's mostly theory because in the past on slower android phones, after I finished recording it would take a few seconds as it "saved" anything more then a few moments of video. I contributed this to holding locally then transferring to external afterwards. In my head, doing it this way would eliminate any pauses in recording caused by what I would imagine would be slower read/write speeds as the primary partition access is faster then the external SD. We would need a dev/programmer with knowledge of these things to confirm/bust this theory. But anyways, back on track, great deal for a big card.
other sites I check daily for these deals is Woot.com and Tanga.com
Tanga is especially known for funny tshirts for dirt cheap. They both have a few deals per day. Sometimes amazing sometimes less than.
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I'm not real sure to be honest man, it's mostly theory because in the past on slower android phones, after I finished recording it would take a few seconds as it "saved" anything more then a few moments of video. I contributed this to holding locally then transferring to external afterwards. In my head, doing it this way would eliminate any pauses in recording caused by what I would imagine would be slower read/write speeds as the primary partition access is faster then the external SD. We would need a dev/programmer with knowledge of these things to confirm/bust this theory. But anyways, back on track, great deal for a big card.
other sites I check daily for these deals is Woot.com and Tanga.com
Tanga is especially known for funny tshirts for dirt cheap. They both have a few deals per day. Sometimes amazing sometimes less than.
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It's a sound theory to me, though I don't 100% agree it does make a lot of sense. Personally I'd chalk it up to having an older phone, I do know what you're talking about my G1 did the exact same thing.
As for speed differences between different classes of SD cards, though it is hotly debated, I've personally did a little seat of the pants bench marking between my class 2, 4, 6 and 10 and in the end my class 10 was only 2 or 3 seconds faster on multiple smaller file transfers, when it came to one large file (such as what you'd expect from a 720p video) the difference was negligible.
As for the main post, it's one heck of a deal. if i hadn't already bought a class 10 i'd jump on this. Heck, I own a tablet, I might still order one.
Also if you want to check out daily deals, check out dodtracker.com. it's a collection of deal sites. its not very pretty, but it does get the job done.
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It's a sound theory to me, though I don't 100% agree it does make a lot of sense. Personally I'd chalk it up to having an older phone, I do know what you're talking about my G1 did the exact same thing.
As for speed differences between different classes of SD cards, though it is hotly debated, I've personally did a little seat of the pants bench marking between my class 2, 4, 6 and 10 and in the end my class 10 was only 2 or 3 seconds faster on multiple smaller file transfers, when it came to one large file (such as what you'd expect from a 720p video) the difference was negligible.
As for the main post, it's one heck of a deal. if i hadn't already bought a class 10 i'd jump on this. Heck, I own a tablet, I might still order one.
Also if you want to check out daily deals, check out dodtracker.com. it's a collection of deal sites. its not very pretty, but it does get the job done.
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Wow, you wern't joking that is ugly. Once I figure out how to navagate it I'm sure it'll be useful. As for my theory, ohwell, it's just a shot in the dark. If anyone's thinking about this card, act now before it's too late, there will be a new deal tomorrow.
Missed it by 2 minutes while reading the thread... SMH
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I was on the fence about ordering this one, and then I read another post on how to store a second flash card underneath the back cover.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550541
So I decided to go for it. I'll use it for everyday stuff. If it works well for HD video recording and playback, then I'm all good. If not, I'll just keep a second card for backup. Thanks again, Chief.
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I was on the fence about ordering this one, and then I read another post on how to store a second flash card underneath the back cover.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550541
So I decided to go for it. I'll use it for everyday stuff. If it works well for HD video recording and playback, then I'm all good. If not, I'll just keep a second card for backup. Thanks again, Chief.
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Glad I could help. Todays deal is a set of decent looking BlueTooth headphone for $15, perfect for anyone looking for a cheap set of gym headphones. After having a nice pair stolen I buy cheapies for the gym now. Usually RocketFish, but may get a pair of these to keep on hand just incase.
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
I understand where you are coming from but when you look from a "normal" consumers point of view they probably could care less because most dont know how it works.
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So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I have to agree. I dont use my phone to store movies.
I use DropBox & Drive to store music and short video's. With the 100 or so apps I have on my 8GB thunderbolt and tons of pictures, I still have about 1.8GB of free space on it.
Still, it woudl be nice to have a 32GB option, or the SD slot.. very silly of HTC not to have more storage capacity in their new 'flagship phone' ... but 16GB is going to be fine for me for the next 2 years.
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Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
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Strange...... pdadb.net states that the DNA has a micro SD slot supporting up to 32gigs. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3950&c=htc_droid_dna_adr6435__droid_incredible_x_htc_dlx but that might have been a rumor or based on the Japanese sister phone "J-Butterfly". The Verizon website makes no mention of a micro SD slot though. Deal breaker for me!
I would have loved if it had 32 gigs on board as well. Then the I could have dealt with the lack of micro sd.
I don't want to have to have to play the cloud storage file management game where I have to keep uploading and downloading and deciding what I want on my phone. I don't mind 16GB internal as long as I have a micro SD slot or I don't mind having 32GB and no Micro SD right now. The problem is files and apps are only going to get larger so by the time 16GB goes away in favour of 32GB that'll be too small then too.
I mean just give me an option to have the storage size I want. 16GB is only like 11-13GB usable..... well over half of that goes to my music and then some games are a couple GB now....... suddenly I'm out of space and cannot record video.
Just had an online chat with Verizon Rep and she put me on hold while she checked and confirmed that the micro sd card slot is not mentioned on the specs on the verizon page (as I told her). I told her that Verizon had made a big mistake (with less total memory than my Rezound) on the DNA. She said "Verizon is not the manufacturer" (Duh!). I said true but it is made to Verizon's specifications by hTC.....oh well! I might be forced into the arms of the Galaxy Note II (which at least has up to 64 gigs of micro sd storage available to go with its paltry 16 gigs on board).
Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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I agree. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 32gb version (if we do).
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Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
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I've been interested in getting a new handset since the Nexus 4 purely because it was so cheap, however without a 32GB model at least it becomes useless for me even at the price, it would be like downgrading. Now however I'm interested in buying a new mobile just because I've gotten myself excited at the thought, even though my upgrade is in April and I'm perfectly happy with my GS2. Now this phone was announced I thought great it's basically a Nexus 4........ no 32GB or Micro SD...... FFS!
I'm just gonna end up waiting till April and hopefully the GS4 will be on the horizon and I'll get that, no way would Samsung design it without a Micro SD or at least a 32GB model.
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verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I just realized that you are absolutely correct ! freakin verizon... why else would they make such a small internal capacity, amazing screen to make u watch more videos and no sd storage
I dont know why that didnt click in my head
I wonder how long will HTC keep bending over for verizon ? until they lose all their customer base completely... ?
It's like a crippled expensive horse. I will wait to see some DNA+ edition etc. Then maybe if the storage is right i will buy it
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verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I wouldn't say Verizon spec'd out the phone. HTC took many users considerations into this phone. Remember XDA and/or developers are only a small part of the cell phone world. I'm not saying I like the ideal of 16gb without a SD card, but......
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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Not everyone has an unlimited plan, I'm stuck on a shared 4GB data plan w/ 4 people if I go with Verizon. Sprint is starting to get tempting though...
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Tachi91 said:
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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I keep EVERY THING on clouds, picasa , 100 gb google drive , google music
I just dont trust verizon to let me keep my grandfather unlimited forever, and i am terrified to wake up one day to realize that i have a 2gb cap to access 160 gb worth of material
between custom roms , and recoveries and the rom backups , 16 gb is barely enough . at that point , where i will have to buy an mp3 player and carry that separately.
and i can kiss pandora goodbye if verizon caps it
the only thing i am certain of is the phone specs and that verizon are flat out without any conscious or loyalty.
Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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Of course the 8GB Nexus 4 will sell! Dirt cheap price for a top of the line device with no contract = win. For me the storage isn't a huge issue, mainly the locked bootloader and tons of VZW crapware on the phone. Who knows if HTC will offer the dev unlock for this device..They have been bending over to Verizon a lot as of late. Hopefully this doesn't turn into the old troll Rezound forum.
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Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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I'm definitely still purchasing it. 16gb is enough.
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Yeah I love sense but I would also love to have like venomrom or viperrom
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot. On the flipside, phone does sound like it will be a beast.
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot.
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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Lol you know what i created an off topic thread for dna following the traditions and i am myself spamming other threads going off topic !
Nah am waiting for pc release
It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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I have to try to figure out how much I will want to. It's tough to tell as I don't like most games out now, but if Assassin's Creed gets a real pc like release like GTA3 etc then I might want to a decent amount. Then again, maybe the controls on the phone will be annoying and I won't ever really want to and could get by with N64oid in situations where I have to sit around for a bit. I'd feel dumb giving up the amazing camera and screen if I don't end up using more space. I miss the good old upgradability of desktops and laptops.
I dont know why people are saying that
The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
You're kidding, right?
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The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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As a loyal Verizon Wireless Business customer, I'm completely dumbfounded. One of the main reasons I left the iPhone was due to no SD card.
On my Rezound, the internal storage is FULL with apps only and the 32GB SDHC is half+ most of the time. HD video and 8mp pics will fill up your storage fast. Love it or hate it, the Rezound can replace my laptop 95% of the time. That's freedom baby!
I guess if you only use your phone to call, text, web searches or simply to show off to your friends then this is the perfect phone for you but if your phone is a business necessity rather than a show pony then you will agree that the numbers just don't add up. I thought it odd that Verizon promotes their phones with adds about streaming movies over the 4G LTE network and at the same time eliminating the unlimited plan. Do they really think people will spend $10 in data charges to watch a movie? We would switch to another network tomorrow but only Verizon has the coverage we need even though we have unlimited data grandfathered in on most of our phones.
I want a 1080p phone just as bad as everyone else but this defies all COMMON SENSE!!!
Maybe I'm only one person but I will only reward a business with my cash for giving me what I want and need.
Just say NO...
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
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I can see them (or another carrier) within a few years having a 4G LTE home plan that's unlimited for all of your devices. Then you just put your phones on and some mifi hotspot devices in your home. Verizon has already mentioned that they want to move away from FIOS to something wireless because of the expense of setting up and maintaining the cords. This is all I'd need since I never use cable anyways, and within a few years I'd bet almost all channels have their own internet live streaming and/or watching shows when you want. Were already getting there.
Not sure but I heard it's VZW's fault because they force HTC to have low mem with no sd which means using clouds which means using data and some don't have unlimited which means more money for VZW.
Also they do sell usb to micro usb cords to plug your usb into your phone as an external harddrive I guess and store games on there. Just plug it in when you want to play a game I guess. The thing is don't know if DNA supports this. I know GSIII does as well Note II I think.
Look folks I own the latest HTC phone built with an sd card. The evo lte. Having an sd card really isnt that big of a deal. The onboard sd card is much faster and i have a class 10 sandisk 32. Nothing is faster than that but onboard storage. Basically i use root explorer alot and any files not being used or accessed at that time you keep on the card anything current or needed to be flashed you keep onboard. Its almost like you have 2 sd cards not one. Now obviously the dna will not have this but a simple flash drive and adapter is the exact same thing! The only difference would be you cant run the files off the flash drive without transfering them but im not sure why you would run them off an external anyway if you had them? Onboard memory is faster anyhow? I just dont see why the fuss? Yall are mad about nothing lol. Flash drives cost about 20% more than a sd card. Relax its not a big deal. Lol
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16GB isn't future proof for apps (mostly games). I wouldn't want to plug in a flash drive to play some games - that would be incredibly annoying. Other than that, I don't see it as a big deal. I also never listen to music while out though (besides car radio). I currently only use 3GB of space on my Incredible, but it also just can't handle any real games lol.
They have games bigger than 16 gb lol? I dont play games really but ok.
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They have games bigger than 16 gb lol? I dont play games really but ok.
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Some are over 2GB already, HD ones that inevitably come out soon will be 3-4GB. Well, the free roaming ones anyway - Angry Birds never will be. That means if only storing apps you could only have 3-4 games before running out of space. It's only 11GB free after formatting and the Jellybean/Sense etc.
I dont game on phones and never will. just got a 32gb nexus 7 so when my nephews come over they can play all the .99 cents games I bought last year. Stay away from my phone lol. I game but true joy is on big screen, xbox, pc, ps3, I really could care less about gaming on 5inch or 7inch screen where I get tired of controls after 5 mins.
Man im on my phone enough as it is! The last thing I need is another addiction lol.
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It's a big deal for me as I have >35GB of music on my 64GB card currently. I had been looking forward to looking at this phone but not any more.
Guess it's the limitation
With the LTE clocking in around 20-50 Mbps where I live, I'm carrying about 20 million songs with me everywhere I go
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With the LTE clocking in around 20-50 Mbps where I live, I'm carrying about 20 million songs with me everywhere I go
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Until Verizon inevitably takes away unlimited data. Then if you listen a lot...
People always bring up that they have like 50GB of music.
I have a ton of music too, but come on people. Do you need to carry every single song you own with you in your pocket? REALLY?
I pick a few hundred songs to put on my phone and when I get tired of it I put new ones on.
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Look folks I own the latest HTC phone built with an sd card. The evo lte. Having an sd card really isnt that big of a deal. The onboard sd card is much faster and i have a class 10 sandisk 32. Nothing is faster than that but onboard storage. Basically i use root explorer alot and any files not being used or accessed at that time you keep on the card anything current or needed to be flashed you keep onboard. Its almost like you have 2 sd cards not one. Now obviously the dna will not have this but a simple flash drive and adapter is the exact same thing! The only difference would be you cant run the files off the flash drive without transfering them but im not sure why you would run them off an external anyway if you had them? Onboard memory is faster anyhow? I just dont see why the fuss? Yall are mad about nothing lol. Flash drives cost about 20% more than a sd card. Relax its not a big deal. Lol
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I'm sure that not only 16GBs (11GBs usable), 8GBs (yep, 3GB usable only) storage is enough for many people who only surf webs, facebook, sometimes take some photos, listen to music a little bit and have some small apps. I think at least 50-70% smartphone owners use their device this way.
However, there are still a lot of people needing bigger storage for many purposes, and I dont know what you wanna ask. For you it's enough, and for others it's not, that is personal opinion and purpose.
Something similar that I saw in other fanboys' topics, such as when people blamed on iPhone about it's storage, close OS, small screen or just no bluetooth sharing, and many shew a ton of evidences that it's enough. The same thing with Samsung's plastic and Motorola's bootloader.
I personally don't use my phone for games, music or movies. I use it for email, calls, texts and web-browsing (as well as for certain productivity apps). However, I can certainly see how someone looking to use their phone as an all-in-one multimedia device would not be satisfied with 16gb.
In the end, like everything else in the world, it really is just subjective and based on personal use requirements which is why there is no reason for people to bash a device for so-and-so reason or for people to bash the people doing so because, at the end of the day, there's always a group out there that will find the specs of any piece of technology adequate for their needs.
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Until Verizon inevitably takes away unlimited data. Then if you listen a lot...
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There's no way I'll ever come close to the limit listening to streaming music. To take up 4GB of data I'd have to listen to 128 Kbps streaming constantly for 69 hours. Some people might have issue with that but I know I won't. Plus I tend to use the spotify feature to download my favorite playlists to the device so it's rarely streaming anyways. Automatic sync and everything. It's a wonderful setup for music for only $10/mo.
thank you
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There's no way I'll ever come close to the limit listening to streaming music. To take up 4GB of data I'd have to listen to 128 Kbps streaming constantly for 69 hours.
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Aren't the data plans 2gb/$30 and 5gb/$50 a month? There is a big difference between streaming up to 2gb vs. 4gb.
Simple. They need access to more than 13gb of stuff. Is it really beyond your comprehension that there are people in the world that need this? I think using a flash drive with my phone is really cool but its a bit ridiculous to think it could replace the function of an SD card. You may as well ask why anyone would want more that 8gb of data on a phone or 4gb of data.
Or better yet why do you think you need more than 1gb of storage on your phone. I only use my phone for email and the internet so I can't understand why anyone in the world would need more than a gigabyte, I mean my email cache is like less than 100mb and the internet is LITERALLY on the internet so I don't need ANY storage for that. Even if i downloaded an app, that's like what, a few more mbs? What could anyone possible have on their phone that would exceed 1gb.
Your experience ≠ everyone else.
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Aren't the data plans 2gb/$30 and 5gb/$50 a month? There is a big difference between streaming up to 2gb vs. 4gb.
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Not really to me. I track my usage and over the past six months on my Sprint EVO 4G I've averaged ~415MB per month total. That includes my spotify usage, internet, maps, searches, occasional youtube, etc. Of course I see my usage going up somewhat when I get on LTE, but not by tenfold. My original point was that the need to carry around 50GB of music is nullified (at least for me) by using something like Spotify.
My remaining question to those who insist on carrying that much music, why are you only limiting yourself to that much? I mean, I have 200GB+ on a storage drive at home. You can't carry all that around so what's the difference between 50 and 200?
I could care less about not having an SD card, but I don't play games or store music so much less memory is needed for my use. I can completely understand those who game a lot and store music and vids needing one. My biggest concern would be getting it rooted and being able to access the hotspot hacked of course. When this can be done ill be very tempted to pick one up.
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It's a big deal for me as I have >35GB of music on my 64GB card currently. I had been looking forward to looking at this phone but not any more.
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I was worried about the lack of storage expansion in my current device, but I soon realized I didn't need my entire music collection with me all the time.
I have a lot of music, but I just don't listen to it often enough for an SD card slot (or lack thereof) to be a deal breaker
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So as everyone knows the GS6 will be available mid April. When Samsung first announced the GS6 I was pretty certain I wanted to get it, however I've wanted a bigger screen (currently using gs4) and the more I compare the note 4 and GS6 the specs are extremely similar. My question is 1 obviously which phone should I get and 2 does the gs6 offer anything the note doesn't. I know I can get a back for the note for wireless charging so that doesn't concern me. And I don't really use my camera to much so that's another factor I'm not concerned about.
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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ShadowLea said:
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
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Well, I find it pretty easy to manage.
I did have to extend my pockets, but then the pockets in female jeans can't even fit a classic phone. :laugh:
It felt a bit big the first day, but after a week you won't even notice it. By then everything else will feel tiny. In terms of handling, I can manage it with one hand quite well. (Size 6 female hands, so really small hands.)
In truth the S6 isn't much smaller, the Note 4 is only slightly less than a centimeter taller and 0,8cm wider, in total. That's +-4.5 mm on either side.
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Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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What do you mean by more development?
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What do you mean by more development?
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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I'm not saying it happens to everyone, I'm just saying it's far more common than damaged whole devices. I haven't had a problem either with my SD card (using it for over 2 years now).
The cloud storage is an option (which I imagine most people can make use of), and it's not meant that you synchronize your data all the time, you can just do it once or twice every month when you have wireless internet. That should at least limit the loss of data because of any damage to your device. But regardless of this option, internal storage is still much more reliable than SD cards on its own.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Yeah i have a bit of an issue with cloud as well. Being that I'm on a 10gb family share plan I am limited to about 4gb a month. Since I use the most amount of my phones capacity when I am traveling(which I do often) I can't simply sync with the cloud. I use about 10-15gb of space when I travel for things like movies(6-7gb if I get the low file sized one), random extra games to play(2-3gb), books, music, etc. And I'll tell you what hotel wifi is the devil. And when I travel to Oregon for example, the person I stay with does not have wifi(I know unbelievable). But either way for me SD space is pretty important. Being that the S6 will be at least $50-100 more to go from 32 to 64 and then from 64 to 128 it starts to ad up pretty quickly.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
D15 said:
Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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There hasn't really been any pricing in the US yet. For us the s6 isn't released until april 10.