Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
nikufellow said:
Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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Of course the 8GB Nexus 4 will sell! Dirt cheap price for a top of the line device with no contract = win. For me the storage isn't a huge issue, mainly the locked bootloader and tons of VZW crapware on the phone. Who knows if HTC will offer the dev unlock for this device..They have been bending over to Verizon a lot as of late. Hopefully this doesn't turn into the old troll Rezound forum.
nikufellow said:
Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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I'm definitely still purchasing it. 16gb is enough.
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Yeah I love sense but I would also love to have like venomrom or viperrom
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot. On the flipside, phone does sound like it will be a beast.
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot.
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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Lol you know what i created an off topic thread for dna following the traditions and i am myself spamming other threads going off topic !
Nah am waiting for pc release
It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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I have to try to figure out how much I will want to. It's tough to tell as I don't like most games out now, but if Assassin's Creed gets a real pc like release like GTA3 etc then I might want to a decent amount. Then again, maybe the controls on the phone will be annoying and I won't ever really want to and could get by with N64oid in situations where I have to sit around for a bit. I'd feel dumb giving up the amazing camera and screen if I don't end up using more space. I miss the good old upgradability of desktops and laptops.
I dont know why people are saying that
The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
You're kidding, right?
jmichaels1982 said:
The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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As a loyal Verizon Wireless Business customer, I'm completely dumbfounded. One of the main reasons I left the iPhone was due to no SD card.
On my Rezound, the internal storage is FULL with apps only and the 32GB SDHC is half+ most of the time. HD video and 8mp pics will fill up your storage fast. Love it or hate it, the Rezound can replace my laptop 95% of the time. That's freedom baby!
I guess if you only use your phone to call, text, web searches or simply to show off to your friends then this is the perfect phone for you but if your phone is a business necessity rather than a show pony then you will agree that the numbers just don't add up. I thought it odd that Verizon promotes their phones with adds about streaming movies over the 4G LTE network and at the same time eliminating the unlimited plan. Do they really think people will spend $10 in data charges to watch a movie? We would switch to another network tomorrow but only Verizon has the coverage we need even though we have unlimited data grandfathered in on most of our phones.
I want a 1080p phone just as bad as everyone else but this defies all COMMON SENSE!!!
Maybe I'm only one person but I will only reward a business with my cash for giving me what I want and need.
Just say NO...
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
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I can see them (or another carrier) within a few years having a 4G LTE home plan that's unlimited for all of your devices. Then you just put your phones on and some mifi hotspot devices in your home. Verizon has already mentioned that they want to move away from FIOS to something wireless because of the expense of setting up and maintaining the cords. This is all I'd need since I never use cable anyways, and within a few years I'd bet almost all channels have their own internet live streaming and/or watching shows when you want. Were already getting there.
Not sure but I heard it's VZW's fault because they force HTC to have low mem with no sd which means using clouds which means using data and some don't have unlimited which means more money for VZW.
Also they do sell usb to micro usb cords to plug your usb into your phone as an external harddrive I guess and store games on there. Just plug it in when you want to play a game I guess. The thing is don't know if DNA supports this. I know GSIII does as well Note II I think.
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http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
I will be all ears looking out for rumors of this if it turns out to be true. Im not high on a galaxy device at all. But if this comes to fruition and HTC steps up to the plate, I would definately be all over this. Possibly S5 processor, LTE and Jelly bean?? I would use one of my upgrades for this for sure.
BTW....notice how HTC states they will be upgrading current devices to Sense 3.6...What happened to Sense 4.0?
sign me up
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swaze said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
I will be all ears looking out for rumors of this if it turns out to be true. Im not high on a galaxy device at all. But if this comes to fruition and HTC steps up to the plate, I would definately be all over this. Possibly S5 processor, LTE and Jelly bean?? I would use one of my upgrades for this for sure.
BTW....notice how HTC states they will be upgrading current devices to Sense 3.6...What happened to Sense 4.0?
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current devices do NOT have the hardware spec for Sense 4.0 features. the lack of the f2.0 camera lens, and the dedicated ImageChip to work with "imageSense" and improve the camera as drastically as they did were 90% of the selling point of Sense4.0...
makes sense(no pun intended) to be honest and you can't fault them for the decision.
BUT a HTC Nexus device would be cool for sure.....can we get a little Nexus SD card love please? lol
I would take this rumor with a grain of salt. Considering Google recently purchased Motorola Mobility.
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current devices do NOT have the hardware spec for Sense 4.0 features. the lack of the f2.0 camera lens, and the dedicated ImageChip to work with "imageSense" and improve the camera as drastically as they did were 90% of the selling point of Sense4.0...
makes sense(no pun intended) to be honest and you can't fault them for the decision.
BUT a HTC Nexus device would be cool for sure.....can we get a little Nexus SD card love please? lol
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That is a must. And I would take 2GB of RAM also.
@xplicit815
They said Motorola is a totally seperate company and get no special treatment involving the nexus. Think locked bootloader...Not happening.
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...la-acquisition-wants-nothing-to-do-with-moto/
no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.
bloodrain954 said:
no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.
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ha ur crazy. only thing they could of done different was make the screen even bigger, and add SD card access.
how did they "drop the ball?"
I consider "dropping the ball" something like the kyocera echo gimmick device Sprint spent time on having its own event for.
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no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.
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What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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Because, someone can actually spend additional money on a 32GB SD card for their low-end device, while their higher-end device comes equipped with that amount of memory already.
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What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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The One V is coming with 512MB and it makes sense if you have too many apps installed to have an sdcard so you can use A2SD and save memory.
bagelicious said:
What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
nickmgray said:
While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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That sounds like an iphone owner.
No, it sounds like a general consumer who has never purchased a smartphone in their life. We have to remember that Android is taking over the world and most people buying these phones are upgrading from flip phones. These people have a hard time buying a new computer or choosing which iPod is right for them. Show them a selection of smartphones and they simply buy what the store sales rep says is the best option for them.
At the rate HTC is going now is that even a good thing?
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sgt. slaughter said:
ha ur crazy. only thing they could of done different was make the screen even bigger, and add SD card access.
how did they "drop the ball?"
I consider "dropping the ball" something like the kyocera echo gimmick device Sprint spent time on having its own event for.
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Uh how about adding a bigger battery to improve their phones ****ty battery life?
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At the rate HTC is going now is that even a good thing?
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Uh how about adding a bigger battery to improve their phones ****ty battery life?
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Looks like they have gone up to 1800 mah and used lipoly not Li ion, my EVO 3d lasts a fair while even with good daily use, no custom kernel or Rom. I use WiFi 3g, music and have sync on 4 hour interval for everything. I'm pretty happy with my battery life to b honest. Miles better then my old dhd n e way
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While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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what it comes down to is 1 thing. COST to HTC. If they can offer more on board memory and the price of having the SD is more than the extra onboard then its clear what way they are going to go with to achieve a "minimum" amount of memory for the phone...
Well this is weird... LG was "rumoured" to be next google device. Hmm.. perhaps there is some mighty trolling on the go?
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While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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That's short sighted and somewhat dependent on the demographic you are referring to as "typical consumer"...
My wife - just wants the phone to deliver her email, texts and phone calls and may not even know the Android Market exists.
My teenager - complains that she's out of storage space with all the music, movies, apps, wallpapers etc. I'm actually buying her a 32GB card so she can lose her iPod and just use a single device.
And me - i'm my teenager plus a flashaholic so these things are important.
Yes...there's google music but they haven't quite ironed out how my family can share my music like i can with my ipods so local storage is important (oh yeah..I also have sprint with **** network where i live so downloading is a house of horrors).
And anybody who thinks that an 1800ma battery is gonna suffice when you fire up some LTE is smokin crack.
I'm about done with HTC. Still upset about the s-off situation on my Evo 3D.
As for what they could have better on the One X...
S-off without needed to use their stupid tool.
Removable battery.
SD slot.
Add a kickstand.
Charging port on the bottom so you can use the kickstand (or case with one) while charging.
No buttons.
Did you guys see the rumored specs for the Galaxy S 3? Totally blows the HTC One X out of the water. And it will have s-off on day 1 too.
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That's short sighted and somewhat dependent on the demographic you are referring to as "typical consumer"...
My wife - just wants the phone to deliver her email, texts and phone calls and may not even know the Android Market exists.
My teenager - complains that she's out of storage space with all the music, movies, apps, wallpapers etc. I'm actually buying her a 32GB card so she can lose her iPod and just use a single device.
And me - i'm my teenager plus a flashaholic so these things are important.
Yes...there's google music but they haven't quite ironed out how my family can share my music like i can with my ipods so local storage is important (oh yeah..I also have sprint with **** network where i live so downloading is a house of horrors).
And anybody who thinks that an 1800ma battery is gonna suffice when you fire up some LTE is smokin crack.
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haha i had to read this twice here. lol
saw you say "my wife....my teenager..." and then thought i read "and me- im A teenager..." totally lost there shaking my head wtf is this guy a teenager, married, and has a teenager kid too? wtf is going on. lol haha
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
Proz00 said:
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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Then they will fail along with Apple :good:. Oh wait.. *looks at HTC's profits*
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HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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With the iPhone being the gold standard in phone design and Google's Nexus phones moving towards no external storage and non-replaceable batteries, I think the other OEMs are taking suit and following. It is a shame since I utilize two batteries (both standard) to keep me afloat when I don't have downtime to charge my Rezound around 12-2pm every day. Android/Android+UI skins and the hardware are not optimized enough to offer what the iPhone can - a 1440mAH battery and all day or longer battery life.
To OP:
I disagree with HTC picking "a side". They release phones on multiple carriers, unlike Apple's original stance with AT&T-only. A problem is the fact they are having an identity crisis at the moment. They're phones are labeled under carrier-owned franchises (DROID, EVO, etc) rather than their own (e.g.: one), although it seems like they're working on that...slowly. They're definitely the last one to the game out of the big 3, with Motorola reviving the 'RAZR' platform and Samsung running with their 'Galaxy' series. It's fragmented in a way for non-carrier branded phones, like the Thunderbolt to the Rezound to now Droid DNA. No consumer who doesn't have an interest in phones like we do will ever realize the successors and predecessors because these are all new phone names...not just a new generation (like iPhone 5 or the GS3 or even RAZR HD). They need to stick with the 'one' branding and work on only a couple of phones at a time and spread it across all carriers possible to grant the most access to consumers. Motorola tried the whole 'let's throw a bunch of phones against a wall and see which ones stick'...it didn't get them too far and then they were overwhelmed with phone updates (sound ... familiar?). Although exclusivity is excellent for the carrier, it's negative for the manufacturer...and with no manufacturer, no phone. In the US, the manufacturer needs carrier support more than the carriers need an individual manufacturer.
In reality, I think HTC realizes this mistake due to the falling bottom line and is hopefully getting plans to turn this sinking ship around. After enjoying AOSP on the OG Droid to despising MotoBlur on the DX (and going with CM7) to actually enjoying the aesthetics Sense 3.5 and now Sense 4 (seriously, the Rezound should have had an OEM upgrade to Sense 4), my phone has been rock solid since launch day, exactly one year ago today (oh shiz, my warranty expires today!). I enjoy HTC's build quality and having an OEM-supported unlockable bootloader and a community-supported S-OFF initiative and wish them the best in turning themselves around. Never have I ever been so content with a phone until I got the Rezound...and a year later, I still love this device. It does everything I want and then some.
TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
GrayTheWolf said:
This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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I fail to see what's so Reddit about that post.
But I do agree that only 16GB of storage is a load of bull.
@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
u mean more iFanboys like ?
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@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
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With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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kyuubi08 said:
With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
GrayTheWolf said:
Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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chrisjz said:
That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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The weird thing is I saw a 32 gig sd card on ebay for the DNA. Which is weird considering no sd slot unless it's an internal sd slot like the early wp7 devices.
GrayTheWolf said:
Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Personally, at 11gb usable, I think this phone will have a hard time selling, especially when following the Note 2 (only reason I could see buying the DNA over the Note - price. That being said, people are picking up the Note 2, on AT&T, for $199. Yeah, the DNA has a better looking spec sheet...but, it is DEFINITELY not for me). I would buy a phablet so I would not have to carry a phone (to listen to my music) AND a 7" tablet to read/minor surfing. Still need a 10" Tablet... All that said...I love HTC products. Bought the Inspire, upgraded to the Vivid, downgraded to the Inspire again, bought the HTC Flyer tablet.
With all due respect, if so few people care about no "more than 16 gigs of storage", why did Google drop the Nexus 8 gig line? Why is their no 8 gig line? I think the people HAVE spoken by saying if you ARE going to take our storage cards away, at least give us the option to increase our storage space from the get go. My guess is, you will see other "options" available as time goes on. Also, though we are seeing more phones come available with no removable battery/no sd card, my guess is there will always be people wanting those features. As we become more and more mobile and phones become larger, we will change our viewing habits from TV at home to watching them via phone/tablet. There will be a need for larger and larger memory options. Add the clamp down on internet usage, throttling, etc., people are not going to WANT to use a cloud for their music/videos, especially as we are primarily an instant gratification society.
Today, there may only be a small percentage who care about more than 16 gigs (I would tend to disagree with that statement but anywho). Tomorrow, the numbers will grow...and grow...and grow. Apple is expecting to double the 7" tablet market every year for the next 2 years. The more I do away from my 10TB of HDD space at home, the more I am going to need when mobile.
I cant wait till I see all this blow over
Very simply said .
Google, apple and now HTC took away our SD card slots to put every thing on a cloud
Verizon took away our unlimited , even thought ATT let their old customers keep it with upgrading
The DNA takes away removable battery , so if you run out , well your not carrying a mobile any more
Then , to my surprise, this particular HTC phone (the DNA) doesent surf and talk on 3g like all HTC 4g phones . (DONT START THE ARGUMENT THAT 3G IS INCAPABLE OF IT, LOOK AT TBOLT, S3 AND REZOUND FORUMS).
to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
Where do you guys think this is going to go ? I simply can not predict an outcome, but i feel like not only are we just bending over, we just swallowed too
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to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good. Will the 1080 screen be nice, sure, worth buying another HTC device that will take 9 years to never see a update, not a snowballs chance in hell. HTC might could win me back as a customer if they actually start updating their devices and listen to their customers, but until then, no thanks. The rezound will be my last I believe. I damn sure am not buying a device that doesn't have a removable battery. And the only way I am giving up an SD card is if it comes with a 64 gb variant. Which it doesn't. Even apple realizes this, so this nonsense from google and HTC about not including SD slots is stupid if you won't at least give us ones with 32/64 gb internal memories.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
Furthermore, I suspect you can too: one foot is quite close, and if I bring the screen closer than about eight inches, I can no longer focus my eyes on it, so one foot is close to the optimal distance for seeing pixels, and you said yourself that you can see then from some position.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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Yes, but it does make the pixels distinctly visible, and shows that at 720p, pixels are easily visible, which is all that I was saying.
Look folks I own the latest HTC phone built with an sd card. The evo lte. Having an sd card really isnt that big of a deal. The onboard sd card is much faster and i have a class 10 sandisk 32. Nothing is faster than that but onboard storage. Basically i use root explorer alot and any files not being used or accessed at that time you keep on the card anything current or needed to be flashed you keep onboard. Its almost like you have 2 sd cards not one. Now obviously the dna will not have this but a simple flash drive and adapter is the exact same thing! The only difference would be you cant run the files off the flash drive without transfering them but im not sure why you would run them off an external anyway if you had them? Onboard memory is faster anyhow? I just dont see why the fuss? Yall are mad about nothing lol. Flash drives cost about 20% more than a sd card. Relax its not a big deal. Lol
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16GB isn't future proof for apps (mostly games). I wouldn't want to plug in a flash drive to play some games - that would be incredibly annoying. Other than that, I don't see it as a big deal. I also never listen to music while out though (besides car radio). I currently only use 3GB of space on my Incredible, but it also just can't handle any real games lol.
They have games bigger than 16 gb lol? I dont play games really but ok.
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They have games bigger than 16 gb lol? I dont play games really but ok.
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Some are over 2GB already, HD ones that inevitably come out soon will be 3-4GB. Well, the free roaming ones anyway - Angry Birds never will be. That means if only storing apps you could only have 3-4 games before running out of space. It's only 11GB free after formatting and the Jellybean/Sense etc.
I dont game on phones and never will. just got a 32gb nexus 7 so when my nephews come over they can play all the .99 cents games I bought last year. Stay away from my phone lol. I game but true joy is on big screen, xbox, pc, ps3, I really could care less about gaming on 5inch or 7inch screen where I get tired of controls after 5 mins.
Man im on my phone enough as it is! The last thing I need is another addiction lol.
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It's a big deal for me as I have >35GB of music on my 64GB card currently. I had been looking forward to looking at this phone but not any more.
Guess it's the limitation
With the LTE clocking in around 20-50 Mbps where I live, I'm carrying about 20 million songs with me everywhere I go
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With the LTE clocking in around 20-50 Mbps where I live, I'm carrying about 20 million songs with me everywhere I go
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Until Verizon inevitably takes away unlimited data. Then if you listen a lot...
People always bring up that they have like 50GB of music.
I have a ton of music too, but come on people. Do you need to carry every single song you own with you in your pocket? REALLY?
I pick a few hundred songs to put on my phone and when I get tired of it I put new ones on.
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Look folks I own the latest HTC phone built with an sd card. The evo lte. Having an sd card really isnt that big of a deal. The onboard sd card is much faster and i have a class 10 sandisk 32. Nothing is faster than that but onboard storage. Basically i use root explorer alot and any files not being used or accessed at that time you keep on the card anything current or needed to be flashed you keep onboard. Its almost like you have 2 sd cards not one. Now obviously the dna will not have this but a simple flash drive and adapter is the exact same thing! The only difference would be you cant run the files off the flash drive without transfering them but im not sure why you would run them off an external anyway if you had them? Onboard memory is faster anyhow? I just dont see why the fuss? Yall are mad about nothing lol. Flash drives cost about 20% more than a sd card. Relax its not a big deal. Lol
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I'm sure that not only 16GBs (11GBs usable), 8GBs (yep, 3GB usable only) storage is enough for many people who only surf webs, facebook, sometimes take some photos, listen to music a little bit and have some small apps. I think at least 50-70% smartphone owners use their device this way.
However, there are still a lot of people needing bigger storage for many purposes, and I dont know what you wanna ask. For you it's enough, and for others it's not, that is personal opinion and purpose.
Something similar that I saw in other fanboys' topics, such as when people blamed on iPhone about it's storage, close OS, small screen or just no bluetooth sharing, and many shew a ton of evidences that it's enough. The same thing with Samsung's plastic and Motorola's bootloader.
I personally don't use my phone for games, music or movies. I use it for email, calls, texts and web-browsing (as well as for certain productivity apps). However, I can certainly see how someone looking to use their phone as an all-in-one multimedia device would not be satisfied with 16gb.
In the end, like everything else in the world, it really is just subjective and based on personal use requirements which is why there is no reason for people to bash a device for so-and-so reason or for people to bash the people doing so because, at the end of the day, there's always a group out there that will find the specs of any piece of technology adequate for their needs.
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Until Verizon inevitably takes away unlimited data. Then if you listen a lot...
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There's no way I'll ever come close to the limit listening to streaming music. To take up 4GB of data I'd have to listen to 128 Kbps streaming constantly for 69 hours. Some people might have issue with that but I know I won't. Plus I tend to use the spotify feature to download my favorite playlists to the device so it's rarely streaming anyways. Automatic sync and everything. It's a wonderful setup for music for only $10/mo.
thank you
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There's no way I'll ever come close to the limit listening to streaming music. To take up 4GB of data I'd have to listen to 128 Kbps streaming constantly for 69 hours.
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Aren't the data plans 2gb/$30 and 5gb/$50 a month? There is a big difference between streaming up to 2gb vs. 4gb.
Simple. They need access to more than 13gb of stuff. Is it really beyond your comprehension that there are people in the world that need this? I think using a flash drive with my phone is really cool but its a bit ridiculous to think it could replace the function of an SD card. You may as well ask why anyone would want more that 8gb of data on a phone or 4gb of data.
Or better yet why do you think you need more than 1gb of storage on your phone. I only use my phone for email and the internet so I can't understand why anyone in the world would need more than a gigabyte, I mean my email cache is like less than 100mb and the internet is LITERALLY on the internet so I don't need ANY storage for that. Even if i downloaded an app, that's like what, a few more mbs? What could anyone possible have on their phone that would exceed 1gb.
Your experience ≠ everyone else.
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Aren't the data plans 2gb/$30 and 5gb/$50 a month? There is a big difference between streaming up to 2gb vs. 4gb.
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Not really to me. I track my usage and over the past six months on my Sprint EVO 4G I've averaged ~415MB per month total. That includes my spotify usage, internet, maps, searches, occasional youtube, etc. Of course I see my usage going up somewhat when I get on LTE, but not by tenfold. My original point was that the need to carry around 50GB of music is nullified (at least for me) by using something like Spotify.
My remaining question to those who insist on carrying that much music, why are you only limiting yourself to that much? I mean, I have 200GB+ on a storage drive at home. You can't carry all that around so what's the difference between 50 and 200?
I could care less about not having an SD card, but I don't play games or store music so much less memory is needed for my use. I can completely understand those who game a lot and store music and vids needing one. My biggest concern would be getting it rooted and being able to access the hotspot hacked of course. When this can be done ill be very tempted to pick one up.
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It's a big deal for me as I have >35GB of music on my 64GB card currently. I had been looking forward to looking at this phone but not any more.
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I was worried about the lack of storage expansion in my current device, but I soon realized I didn't need my entire music collection with me all the time.
I have a lot of music, but I just don't listen to it often enough for an SD card slot (or lack thereof) to be a deal breaker
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As you guys know (or if you don't, you will now) that many manufacturers are releasing phones in which do not have an external SD card and are banging us over by providing really low storage option inside of phones. What got me thinking is that there is a 64GB SD card on sale for 40 bucks at certain retailers and i wanted to buy one and then i came out with the thought that, almost every new phones coming out doesn't have a slot for the SD card. Sure the s3 does but i wont have the s3 forever. What would you guys do?
I know some say, turn to cloud but lets be realistic (at least here in the states). For starters, t mobile doesn't have the best coverage meaning internet is not available everywhere which means if you go visit grandma's farm, you are bored to death and forced to play with cows or ride horses (although riding horses should make you put your phone down lol). Lets say you have glorious verizon with its "great" LTE network and coverage. Well then you are stuck at 2GB or what ever plan you have. point is that you are stuck, so once over the threshold, you are going to get rocked with a fee.
Taking a more personal look, my SD card consists mostly of music (7GB, 800 songs and counting..I like my songs high quality ala 320kbps mp3/aac or 1000kbps Flac), I have 2 nandroids (1 for stock TW JB and the other for AOSP...you know these can make dents on the SD card, apps that require large amounts of data on the SD card.) so right off the bat, i dont need a 64 gb but i know in the future (give or take 2 years, ill HAVe to go that high.)
What are your thoughts? should i just get it anyway? what do you think can be done to get the attention of manufacturers about this issue? any other thoughts?
It's really simple: if you need the extra space, then buy it (the prices will decrease after, hopefully).
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... what do you think can be done to get the attention of manufacturers about this issue? any other thoughts?
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Google doesn't think that's an issue, but rather the opposite. Google says "the SD Cards slow down the phone", so don't expect a "fix" to that situation (fortunately, that's not the policy of all manufacturers).
osmosizzz said:
As you guys know (or if you don't, you will now) that many manufacturers are releasing phones in which do not have an external SD card and are banging us over by providing really low storage option inside of phones. What got me thinking is that there is a 64GB SD card on sale for 40 bucks at certain retailers and i wanted to buy one and then i came out with the thought that, almost every new phones coming out doesn't have a slot for the SD card. Sure the s3 does but i wont have the s3 forever. What would you guys do?
I know some say, turn to cloud but lets be realistic (at least here in the states). For starters, t mobile doesn't have the best coverage meaning internet is not available everywhere which means if you go visit grandma's farm, you are bored to death and forced to play with cows or ride horses (although riding horses should make you put your phone down lol). Lets say you have glorious verizon with its "great" LTE network and coverage. Well then you are stuck at 2GB or what ever plan you have. point is that you are stuck, so once over the threshold, you are going to get rocked with a fee.
Taking a more personal look, my SD card consists mostly of music (7GB, 800 songs and counting..I like my songs high quality ala 320kbps mp3/aac or 1000kbps Flac), I have 2 nandroids (1 for stock TW JB and the other for AOSP...you know these can make dents on the SD card, apps that require large amounts of data on the SD card.) so right off the bat, i dont need a 64 gb but i know in the future (give or take 2 years, ill HAVe to go that high.)
What are your thoughts? should i just get it anyway? what do you think can be done to get the attention of manufacturers about this issue? any other thoughts?
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Don't think buy it man
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Hell ya! Buy it. My 32 gig card is almost full. I gotta buy a bigger one too!
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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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I had the HTC One before the S4 that I have now. All I will say is that as soon as the One drops on Verizon, I will be switching back. I test phones on a daily basis and the One is the best phone I've used to date. You won't be disappointed with either, but I prefer the One. Sense is much better than Touchwiz now IMO and the build quality and audio can't be beat. I prefer the screen on the One also
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I didn't buy the ONE (or wait for it) because of the reviews. You might like the HTC ONE based on if you want metal build, smaller screen (equals 468 ppi to 441 ppi in S4 slightly sharper text) and the BOOM sound (front facing speakers). With no SD expansion or removable battery, that was a deal killer for me. S4 has better specs and is already made for the AWS network for Verizon (faster LTE speeds). Also, HTC is by far the worst EVER of getting updates out for their phones (yes, even worse then Motorola at their worst)
for me S4 was the no brainer deal for me
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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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If you will be rooting, the only thing the One would have over the S4 is BoomSound and a nicer case. Being unable to swap SD cards or batteries would bug me. If all you need is a bigger screen and you can wait, why not wait a few more months for a Note 3 or One Max?
I had an Evo 4G before the S4 (I never rooted it), so I've got nothing against HTC. HTC doesn't seem to offer (read, foist on you) the suite of apps Samsung does. Samsung seems to be trying to push their content store to compete with Google Play, so I hope future updates don't add tons of bloat related to the Samsung app store...
I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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Not a fan of HTC anymore. I had all the EVOs.
I'd take the S4 all day long over the One. Just a matter of personal preference.
Doesnt HTC take a lonnnnnnng ass time or never to release source? While Samsung does it on day 1, yea good luck with HTC and the handicapped Roms for it.
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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The firmware update that allows apps to be moved to SD card makes your invalid argument invalid again.
I pick the S4 for the reasons stated. No expandable memory, no removable battery, HTC has garbage update schedules, and weaker specs.
But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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It all boils down to preference. Most people want good battery life and cool apps or software. I've used both and when the One releases on Verizon I will have both and use both,
... But to answer the question I will use the S4 more since the battery does last a bit longer and it can do some pretty cool stuff, but most of all I believe there will be more customization on the S4. Lord knows I am a customization fool,. Cheers!!!
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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This is certainly important if you do not want to root the S4. I bet there will be root apps that can redirect app installations to the SD card, if they don't already exist. And Samsung will probably get native full external card installation working eventually. Or they're going to see sales drop off as more and more people bump up against that limit, and scramble to fix it. Why they didn't do this in first place is beyond me - especially with such a small built-in card. Either they wanted to sell more of their own SD cards, they wanted an excuse to charge heaps more for just a little more memory, or Apple sued them into not doing it.
And batteries get old. It might need replacing. Sometimes.
I used to be a diehard htc fan since the original evo but after the one was put on hold, and the poor development and official htc support for the rezound, I doubt I'll go back. I will miss htc but they dropped the ball far too many times and I know it will happen again (maybe not for their current devices) even though they cannot afford to screw anything else up. So bottom line, do you want a pretty phone with nice sound and a slightly, yet not noticeably better screen? Or do you want a larger screen, insane amount of dev and Samsung support for years to come, and removable battery and storage?
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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No, the update that is coming out will not require root. It's an OTA update that lets you move apps to the SD card again.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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Thunderbolt was released in March of 2011. The first ICS device was the Galaxy Nexus which was released November 2011. Does not invalidate your point, though. I was a 'bolt owner, too. It was out for about six months before viable LTE phones were releases (Rezound, Bionic), and even those were not all that great. It got truly usable when Liquid 3.2 was released for AOSP and SkyRaider Zeus was released for Sense. Those were a LONG time after the phone was released, though.
I view it as an early adopter thing, not an HTC thing. We are going to experience the same thing with AWS. Odds are this phone will suck for AWS...the hardware is too far out in front of the service release...no way there won't be issues that are patched around, etc.
S-off will really help get the dev work going on the One. I think it is a perfectly viable alternative to this phone really. Just a different flavor. I have never had a Samsung phone so for me, that was part of the appeal...something different.
if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
YouTube benchmarks on comparisons... You may be surprised how much slower HTC one is.
If you don't like touch wiz, there's lots of options... I use nova launcher on cube mode and love it.
While many defend it, sense does eat up processor attention.
Main advantage with HTC is reading in bright sunlight, 95 percent of my reading is indoors, metal case is nice.
I like options for different batteries, external memory, better camera, better software.... To each his own but benchmarks alone mean little if those benchmarks don't depict real life use.
If you love the best camera you can get, go S4, if you listen to music through speakers then HTC, if through headphones S4 has nice equalizing software.
I personally feel real life pictures can be boring.. I like high saturation of Hd amoled screen.
The Hd mode on the camera makes a perfect picture in crappy lighting!
The S3 has up to a 7000mah battery avail, not sure what they will come up with for the S4 but I don't like bring limited. http://zerolemon.com/
Anyway, each phone is nice, but they both have things the other doesn't.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I own both and really like both. However, if I had to choose only one, it would be the S IV.
The main reason is battery life and how long the One takes to charge.
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if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
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Yea, that note 3 I have my eye on!
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4