I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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I had the HTC One before the S4 that I have now. All I will say is that as soon as the One drops on Verizon, I will be switching back. I test phones on a daily basis and the One is the best phone I've used to date. You won't be disappointed with either, but I prefer the One. Sense is much better than Touchwiz now IMO and the build quality and audio can't be beat. I prefer the screen on the One also
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I didn't buy the ONE (or wait for it) because of the reviews. You might like the HTC ONE based on if you want metal build, smaller screen (equals 468 ppi to 441 ppi in S4 slightly sharper text) and the BOOM sound (front facing speakers). With no SD expansion or removable battery, that was a deal killer for me. S4 has better specs and is already made for the AWS network for Verizon (faster LTE speeds). Also, HTC is by far the worst EVER of getting updates out for their phones (yes, even worse then Motorola at their worst)
for me S4 was the no brainer deal for me
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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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If you will be rooting, the only thing the One would have over the S4 is BoomSound and a nicer case. Being unable to swap SD cards or batteries would bug me. If all you need is a bigger screen and you can wait, why not wait a few more months for a Note 3 or One Max?
I had an Evo 4G before the S4 (I never rooted it), so I've got nothing against HTC. HTC doesn't seem to offer (read, foist on you) the suite of apps Samsung does. Samsung seems to be trying to push their content store to compete with Google Play, so I hope future updates don't add tons of bloat related to the Samsung app store...
I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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Not a fan of HTC anymore. I had all the EVOs.
I'd take the S4 all day long over the One. Just a matter of personal preference.
Doesnt HTC take a lonnnnnnng ass time or never to release source? While Samsung does it on day 1, yea good luck with HTC and the handicapped Roms for it.
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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The firmware update that allows apps to be moved to SD card makes your invalid argument invalid again.
I pick the S4 for the reasons stated. No expandable memory, no removable battery, HTC has garbage update schedules, and weaker specs.
But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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It all boils down to preference. Most people want good battery life and cool apps or software. I've used both and when the One releases on Verizon I will have both and use both,
... But to answer the question I will use the S4 more since the battery does last a bit longer and it can do some pretty cool stuff, but most of all I believe there will be more customization on the S4. Lord knows I am a customization fool,. Cheers!!!
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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This is certainly important if you do not want to root the S4. I bet there will be root apps that can redirect app installations to the SD card, if they don't already exist. And Samsung will probably get native full external card installation working eventually. Or they're going to see sales drop off as more and more people bump up against that limit, and scramble to fix it. Why they didn't do this in first place is beyond me - especially with such a small built-in card. Either they wanted to sell more of their own SD cards, they wanted an excuse to charge heaps more for just a little more memory, or Apple sued them into not doing it.
And batteries get old. It might need replacing. Sometimes.
I used to be a diehard htc fan since the original evo but after the one was put on hold, and the poor development and official htc support for the rezound, I doubt I'll go back. I will miss htc but they dropped the ball far too many times and I know it will happen again (maybe not for their current devices) even though they cannot afford to screw anything else up. So bottom line, do you want a pretty phone with nice sound and a slightly, yet not noticeably better screen? Or do you want a larger screen, insane amount of dev and Samsung support for years to come, and removable battery and storage?
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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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No, the update that is coming out will not require root. It's an OTA update that lets you move apps to the SD card again.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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Thunderbolt was released in March of 2011. The first ICS device was the Galaxy Nexus which was released November 2011. Does not invalidate your point, though. I was a 'bolt owner, too. It was out for about six months before viable LTE phones were releases (Rezound, Bionic), and even those were not all that great. It got truly usable when Liquid 3.2 was released for AOSP and SkyRaider Zeus was released for Sense. Those were a LONG time after the phone was released, though.
I view it as an early adopter thing, not an HTC thing. We are going to experience the same thing with AWS. Odds are this phone will suck for AWS...the hardware is too far out in front of the service release...no way there won't be issues that are patched around, etc.
S-off will really help get the dev work going on the One. I think it is a perfectly viable alternative to this phone really. Just a different flavor. I have never had a Samsung phone so for me, that was part of the appeal...something different.
if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
YouTube benchmarks on comparisons... You may be surprised how much slower HTC one is.
If you don't like touch wiz, there's lots of options... I use nova launcher on cube mode and love it.
While many defend it, sense does eat up processor attention.
Main advantage with HTC is reading in bright sunlight, 95 percent of my reading is indoors, metal case is nice.
I like options for different batteries, external memory, better camera, better software.... To each his own but benchmarks alone mean little if those benchmarks don't depict real life use.
If you love the best camera you can get, go S4, if you listen to music through speakers then HTC, if through headphones S4 has nice equalizing software.
I personally feel real life pictures can be boring.. I like high saturation of Hd amoled screen.
The Hd mode on the camera makes a perfect picture in crappy lighting!
The S3 has up to a 7000mah battery avail, not sure what they will come up with for the S4 but I don't like bring limited. http://zerolemon.com/
Anyway, each phone is nice, but they both have things the other doesn't.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I own both and really like both. However, if I had to choose only one, it would be the S IV.
The main reason is battery life and how long the One takes to charge.
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if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
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Yea, that note 3 I have my eye on!
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Please read the post, in it's entirety before you scream "HEY NEWB!! This is how we do, hizere. You gots PWNED!"
Seriously. Read it. THEN reply.
I've got the TBolt now. Rooted, BAMF'd, and I've got it so that it runs. And is STABLE. The screen just died (dead spots in the touch sensors), but that's another story for another time. Aside from the communications aspect of what I need the phone for, I use the tether more than the 2-7,000 minutes a month that I'm using on the phone. I live in an area where I have no internets, aside from satellite, so the tether has saved me.
I like the phone. It works. It took me several months to get it to where I liked it. When I saw the Note, I swore that when it got to Verizon, I'd buy it. Well, here we are... So....?
What do I gain in giving up the TBolt for the Note?
Is the Note II rootable, and does the rooted tether work on it?
Is stability an issue with the ROMs for the Note?
I'm sure there are more questions, but it's midnight, and I'm fried. Thanks for you help.
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If you are wanting tether strong signal the RAZR max HD has a stronger radio.
What other selling points are you looking at?
The s pen and big screen(non pentile) sold me on the note. Other wise I was going to get the RAZR max HD.
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I live RIGHT next to the tower, so the signal at the house isn't a huge deal. Do the "antenna enhancers" work, btw? A little random, but I've seen them on Amazon, and wondered if they work.
The screen size is the biggest selling point. I'm a big dude, with big hands, and I like the feeling of something substantial in my hands. Battery life is a big deal, hence the reason I've got the extended battery on the TBolt. Sometimes, I can't get to a charger.
I am finding the TBolt a tad slow, these days. Loaded with apps and all of the stuff I've thrown at it, it's just a little slow. My GF has the Razr, and it's substantially faster than the Tbolt in everything it does. Speed is something I'll like more.
I like having a plug-in micro-SD card. I've heard that some of the newer phones have eliminated this feature.
All this said, what made me look at the Note, and say, "THAT ONE! I want that one!"? The size. Performance increase was acknowledged, but it was the size of the phone that was the wow factor for me. If there's something that is a better fit for my application, I'm all for it.
The bulk of my phone use is texting, video streaming, and web browsing. The TBolt is acceptable, but honestly, if I had high speed connectivity and the phone was just my phone, I'd have been looking for something faster, and more robust months ago. And ESPECIALLY now that the screen is hitting the skids on me, I'd be interested in seeing if there is a better fit.
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I live RIGHT next to the tower, so the signal at the house isn't a huge deal. Do the "antenna enhancers" work, btw? A little random, but I've seen them on Amazon, and wondered if they work.
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They do and they don't.
If your phone only receive and and never transmit they usually worked. The effect is that your phone through parasitic coupling got a bigger receive antenna and got more received signals even with antenna impedance mismatched. Similar to an old UHF TV whenever you get close or touch the antenna the reception usually improved.
When your phone do transmit they don't work, the enhancers messed up your antenna transmit power impedance match, causing lost of effective transmit power for long distance coverage.
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Signal boosters if your talking about the stickers no they need to be in direct contact with the antenna to work. Repeaters do work though you'll gain a bar or two depending on various factors.
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The primary requirement is that the sticker had to be isolated from the touch of your hand which caused drastic changes in the enhancer antenna characteristics.
I had never seen any autotune antenna designs that could compensate for such drastic variance.
You guys rock! Thanks for all of your help.
Thanks for all of the info about the antenna enhancers. I'll go with that they work, but they might not, and they can create a disturbance in the force. :good:
If, based on what you've read above, any of you think a different phone would be a better fit, please.... tell me! This is merely a tool that I use. I need THE BEST tool for the application, and, frankly, I'm not current in my phone knowledge. I'm not hung up on a specific model or brand, I just have some preferences, but can overcome those with a better all around tool.
I want to verify that the Verizon Note II IS rootable, at this point. I also want to verify that root tether is NOT available, yet, on the Note II. That, obviously, is going to be the single biggest factor as to when I purchase the phone.
Given that the T-Mobile Note II was rooted, I would think that when the VZW Note II is actually released, it will be rooted too, but it's kind of hard to confirm/deny root before the general public gets the device.
If tethering is very important to you then you should consider how well the phone do at making connections, rooting and turn on features are well and good but if the connection is terrible having no data connection then even the best optimized perfect browser won't help.
According to the data collected here --> www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/11
The Thunderbolt did fairly well but DroidX and Droid2 are the best of the lot.
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Given that the T-Mobile Note II was rooted, I would think that when the VZW Note II is actually released, it will be rooted too, but it's kind of hard to confirm/deny root before the general public gets the device.
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This makes sense, but if we're projecting forward, your guess would be that you super-nerds will crack that bizniz?
Is there ANY phone that has stumped the chump?
I'm sure it will get root fairly quick as well as the bootloader unlocked. You may have to wait a month though. But there are some app options that may let you tether without root (foxfi?)
I'm coming from the tbolt as well, 2 LONG years watching cool phones come and go. I'm very ready for this Note 2!
I am back on my TBolt after the last year on a GNex.. (shattered screen made me come back to my TBolt as a backup phone) And I put one of the newest ICS leaks on my bolt and I am shocked at how well it still runs.. on 3.x it ran like poop with horrible battery life, but on this ICS ROM, I can actually use the standard battery if I want too.. And the screen on the TBolt is not that hard to fix, might be worth it to resell or even to keep as a backup.. I did mine in about 25mins..
And Like you, I am beyond excited for the Note 2.. Its going to be awesome..
Note 2 is very complex Android device to say at the least. Probably the most complex Android device. For your use the Note 2 is way over kill. There are other large screen Androids that will be much more simple than Note 2. Like the HTC Droid DNA is a good example. Most Verizon devices right now will have the bootloader lock issue. But the community will find the way around that with each high end Verizon Android devices.
The point is that Note 2 is much more of a complex device than some would like to deal with. I would not be surprised that in Dec Verizon will get some Note 2 devices back because of the complexity of the device.
That said, if you are up to dealing with the complexity, then try out Note 2. If you can get over the complexity then you will love the Note 2 device.
Note: BTW - There is ClockworkMod Tether that doesn't need root. Just to let you know.
But yes, Verizon's Samsung Galaxy Note 2 will be able to root
The GN2 may have a higher learning curve, but it's by no means overly complex. My mom has one and she's figured out just about everything including multi window in under a week.
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They are people that are not geeks and yet have the knack for such things. My mom is one of those people.
But you will be surprised on how many people will find Galaxy Note 2 over complex for them. And yet Galaxy Note 2 attracts those same people to it. Those are the same people that asks questions like, why do you need so much storage space? And the same people that only uses their devices for facebook, email, texting, netflix, tethering, and checking the scores. For those people Galaxy Note 2 is way over kill. This device is more for organizing your life, productivity, heavy gaming, hand drawing, heavy media, and for the geeks. This is really like the difference between Microsoft computer vs Apple computer.
As long as one understands and accepts that then they will learn it and love it. But if simplicity is what you are looking for then this device is not for you. It is more about your personality if you find Galaxy Note 2 too complex or awesomely joyful. That is what I was trying to make the point.
Personally I would like to see Note 2 features, including the S pen, multi window, etc become the standard in all Androids. Well done Samsung.
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They are people that are not geeks and yet have the knack for such things. My mom is one of those people.
But you will be surprised on how many people will find Galaxy Note 2 over complex for them. And yet Galaxy Note 2 attracts those same people to it. Those are the same people that asks questions like, why do you need so much storage space? And the same people that only uses their devices for facebook, email, texting, netflix, tethering, and checking the scores. For those people Galaxy Note 2 is way over kill. This device is more for organizing your life, productivity, heavy gaming, hand drawing, heavy media, and for the geeks. This is really like the difference between Microsoft computer vs Apple computer.
As long as one understands and accepts that then they will learn it and love it. But if simplicity is what you are looking for then this device is not for you. It is more about your personality if you find Galaxy Note 2 too complex or awesomely joyful. That is what I was trying to make the point.
Personally I would like to see Note 2 features, including the S pen, multi window, etc become the standard in all Androids. Well done Samsung.
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I beg to differ. It is running the same software as the s3 (plus some s pen stuff) and the S3 sold a lot to non complex people. I have had 3 relatives all on iphones ask me about getting the s3. IMO the N2 and S3 are the simplest android devices for iphone switchers and the most complex for android vetrans that want complexity.
Why do you need root on the note 2 for? If its just for tether than its not needed, foxfi will work and it doesnt require root. If you need it for something else then that is a different story, but my guess is a month until the community figures out how to root and get around the locked bootloader.
My guess is a week. We kind of have kexec pros now just look at the s3 development before the BL got unlocked.
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Why do you need root on the note 2 for? If its just for tether than its not needed, foxfi will work and it doesnt require root. If you need it for something else then that is a different story, but my guess is a month until the community figures out how to root and get around the locked bootloader.
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Foxfi says in the description that it doesn't work well (at least wifi mode, which is all I use on it) on most JB phones. Obviously I dunno if it does or does not work on the VZW Note 2, but given its the same JB as all the other N2's, I doubt it will, as it didn't work on the Tmo Note 2 I sampled for a week. Hopefully that changes though (and they update foxfi to work on JB)
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The Note 2 is going to be big enough that I won't need to tether my tablet or computer to it.
And can you change the billing card for your pre order? I am thinking about getting my first credit card and putting my pre order on that just because most cards offer an extended warranty on products bought with the card. I have the money right now and I would pay it off right away. It would be an easy way to start building credit and get a extra warranty on the first phone I have bought new since my OG DROID.
Other then that I am stoked to get my new phone. Using my ThunderBolt kinda sucks after a year with my GNex.
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Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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Of course the 8GB Nexus 4 will sell! Dirt cheap price for a top of the line device with no contract = win. For me the storage isn't a huge issue, mainly the locked bootloader and tons of VZW crapware on the phone. Who knows if HTC will offer the dev unlock for this device..They have been bending over to Verizon a lot as of late. Hopefully this doesn't turn into the old troll Rezound forum.
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Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?
To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
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I'm definitely still purchasing it. 16gb is enough.
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .
Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
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Yeah I love sense but I would also love to have like venomrom or viperrom
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot. On the flipside, phone does sound like it will be a beast.
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For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot.
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !
Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
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Lol you know what i created an off topic thread for dna following the traditions and i am myself spamming other threads going off topic !
Nah am waiting for pc release
It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
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I have to try to figure out how much I will want to. It's tough to tell as I don't like most games out now, but if Assassin's Creed gets a real pc like release like GTA3 etc then I might want to a decent amount. Then again, maybe the controls on the phone will be annoying and I won't ever really want to and could get by with N64oid in situations where I have to sit around for a bit. I'd feel dumb giving up the amazing camera and screen if I don't end up using more space. I miss the good old upgradability of desktops and laptops.
I dont know why people are saying that
The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.
Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
You're kidding, right?
jmichaels1982 said:
The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.
The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.
Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.
Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.
What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.
we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.
I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.
They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
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As a loyal Verizon Wireless Business customer, I'm completely dumbfounded. One of the main reasons I left the iPhone was due to no SD card.
On my Rezound, the internal storage is FULL with apps only and the 32GB SDHC is half+ most of the time. HD video and 8mp pics will fill up your storage fast. Love it or hate it, the Rezound can replace my laptop 95% of the time. That's freedom baby!
I guess if you only use your phone to call, text, web searches or simply to show off to your friends then this is the perfect phone for you but if your phone is a business necessity rather than a show pony then you will agree that the numbers just don't add up. I thought it odd that Verizon promotes their phones with adds about streaming movies over the 4G LTE network and at the same time eliminating the unlimited plan. Do they really think people will spend $10 in data charges to watch a movie? We would switch to another network tomorrow but only Verizon has the coverage we need even though we have unlimited data grandfathered in on most of our phones.
I want a 1080p phone just as bad as everyone else but this defies all COMMON SENSE!!!
Maybe I'm only one person but I will only reward a business with my cash for giving me what I want and need.
Just say NO...
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maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
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I can see them (or another carrier) within a few years having a 4G LTE home plan that's unlimited for all of your devices. Then you just put your phones on and some mifi hotspot devices in your home. Verizon has already mentioned that they want to move away from FIOS to something wireless because of the expense of setting up and maintaining the cords. This is all I'd need since I never use cable anyways, and within a few years I'd bet almost all channels have their own internet live streaming and/or watching shows when you want. Were already getting there.
Not sure but I heard it's VZW's fault because they force HTC to have low mem with no sd which means using clouds which means using data and some don't have unlimited which means more money for VZW.
Also they do sell usb to micro usb cords to plug your usb into your phone as an external harddrive I guess and store games on there. Just plug it in when you want to play a game I guess. The thing is don't know if DNA supports this. I know GSIII does as well Note II I think.
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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Then they will fail along with Apple :good:. Oh wait.. *looks at HTC's profits*
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HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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With the iPhone being the gold standard in phone design and Google's Nexus phones moving towards no external storage and non-replaceable batteries, I think the other OEMs are taking suit and following. It is a shame since I utilize two batteries (both standard) to keep me afloat when I don't have downtime to charge my Rezound around 12-2pm every day. Android/Android+UI skins and the hardware are not optimized enough to offer what the iPhone can - a 1440mAH battery and all day or longer battery life.
To OP:
I disagree with HTC picking "a side". They release phones on multiple carriers, unlike Apple's original stance with AT&T-only. A problem is the fact they are having an identity crisis at the moment. They're phones are labeled under carrier-owned franchises (DROID, EVO, etc) rather than their own (e.g.: one), although it seems like they're working on that...slowly. They're definitely the last one to the game out of the big 3, with Motorola reviving the 'RAZR' platform and Samsung running with their 'Galaxy' series. It's fragmented in a way for non-carrier branded phones, like the Thunderbolt to the Rezound to now Droid DNA. No consumer who doesn't have an interest in phones like we do will ever realize the successors and predecessors because these are all new phone names...not just a new generation (like iPhone 5 or the GS3 or even RAZR HD). They need to stick with the 'one' branding and work on only a couple of phones at a time and spread it across all carriers possible to grant the most access to consumers. Motorola tried the whole 'let's throw a bunch of phones against a wall and see which ones stick'...it didn't get them too far and then they were overwhelmed with phone updates (sound ... familiar?). Although exclusivity is excellent for the carrier, it's negative for the manufacturer...and with no manufacturer, no phone. In the US, the manufacturer needs carrier support more than the carriers need an individual manufacturer.
In reality, I think HTC realizes this mistake due to the falling bottom line and is hopefully getting plans to turn this sinking ship around. After enjoying AOSP on the OG Droid to despising MotoBlur on the DX (and going with CM7) to actually enjoying the aesthetics Sense 3.5 and now Sense 4 (seriously, the Rezound should have had an OEM upgrade to Sense 4), my phone has been rock solid since launch day, exactly one year ago today (oh shiz, my warranty expires today!). I enjoy HTC's build quality and having an OEM-supported unlockable bootloader and a community-supported S-OFF initiative and wish them the best in turning themselves around. Never have I ever been so content with a phone until I got the Rezound...and a year later, I still love this device. It does everything I want and then some.
TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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I fail to see what's so Reddit about that post.
But I do agree that only 16GB of storage is a load of bull.
@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
u mean more iFanboys like ?
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@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
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With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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The weird thing is I saw a 32 gig sd card on ebay for the DNA. Which is weird considering no sd slot unless it's an internal sd slot like the early wp7 devices.
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Personally, at 11gb usable, I think this phone will have a hard time selling, especially when following the Note 2 (only reason I could see buying the DNA over the Note - price. That being said, people are picking up the Note 2, on AT&T, for $199. Yeah, the DNA has a better looking spec sheet...but, it is DEFINITELY not for me). I would buy a phablet so I would not have to carry a phone (to listen to my music) AND a 7" tablet to read/minor surfing. Still need a 10" Tablet... All that said...I love HTC products. Bought the Inspire, upgraded to the Vivid, downgraded to the Inspire again, bought the HTC Flyer tablet.
With all due respect, if so few people care about no "more than 16 gigs of storage", why did Google drop the Nexus 8 gig line? Why is their no 8 gig line? I think the people HAVE spoken by saying if you ARE going to take our storage cards away, at least give us the option to increase our storage space from the get go. My guess is, you will see other "options" available as time goes on. Also, though we are seeing more phones come available with no removable battery/no sd card, my guess is there will always be people wanting those features. As we become more and more mobile and phones become larger, we will change our viewing habits from TV at home to watching them via phone/tablet. There will be a need for larger and larger memory options. Add the clamp down on internet usage, throttling, etc., people are not going to WANT to use a cloud for their music/videos, especially as we are primarily an instant gratification society.
Today, there may only be a small percentage who care about more than 16 gigs (I would tend to disagree with that statement but anywho). Tomorrow, the numbers will grow...and grow...and grow. Apple is expecting to double the 7" tablet market every year for the next 2 years. The more I do away from my 10TB of HDD space at home, the more I am going to need when mobile.
I cant wait till I see all this blow over
Very simply said .
Google, apple and now HTC took away our SD card slots to put every thing on a cloud
Verizon took away our unlimited , even thought ATT let their old customers keep it with upgrading
The DNA takes away removable battery , so if you run out , well your not carrying a mobile any more
Then , to my surprise, this particular HTC phone (the DNA) doesent surf and talk on 3g like all HTC 4g phones . (DONT START THE ARGUMENT THAT 3G IS INCAPABLE OF IT, LOOK AT TBOLT, S3 AND REZOUND FORUMS).
to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
Where do you guys think this is going to go ? I simply can not predict an outcome, but i feel like not only are we just bending over, we just swallowed too
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to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good. Will the 1080 screen be nice, sure, worth buying another HTC device that will take 9 years to never see a update, not a snowballs chance in hell. HTC might could win me back as a customer if they actually start updating their devices and listen to their customers, but until then, no thanks. The rezound will be my last I believe. I damn sure am not buying a device that doesn't have a removable battery. And the only way I am giving up an SD card is if it comes with a 64 gb variant. Which it doesn't. Even apple realizes this, so this nonsense from google and HTC about not including SD slots is stupid if you won't at least give us ones with 32/64 gb internal memories.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
Furthermore, I suspect you can too: one foot is quite close, and if I bring the screen closer than about eight inches, I can no longer focus my eyes on it, so one foot is close to the optimal distance for seeing pixels, and you said yourself that you can see then from some position.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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Yes, but it does make the pixels distinctly visible, and shows that at 720p, pixels are easily visible, which is all that I was saying.
I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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If you're willing to spend the money, I strongly recommend the GSIII. I got mine for $99 right before Christmas.
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I'd rather have something like a gs3 too. I really like this phone but would trade it in a heart beat for a gs3.
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The rezound was ahead of its time so font let the one year mark scare you. However, if your gonna have to keep this phone for two more years you'd be better off with a newer peice of hardware, like the sgs3 or the DROID dna. Also the DROID razr m doesn't look to bad but idk about the modding process for moto phones
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I've had my Rezound for a while now and I'm always looking at which phones are new. So far, because I don't like huge screens and I like my micro SD card I don't see many new phones for me. I also prefer HTC phones because of the superior cameras. So at this point the Rezound is still a good phone, but it doesn't seem to have 2 years worth of life left.
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The DNA feedback has been surprisingly good. Battery life is amazing, and it runs like a beast straight out of the box unrooted.
However it's been out a while and like always, there's something better on the Horizon. The GS3 is a nice phone but I wouldn't burn an upgrade for it if you plan to keep your next phone longer than a year or so.
I can't say much about the rezound that's negative. Most of the comments people made who were unhappy was back before we had official ICS firmware and ice cream sandwich source code.
Since you're considering spending a little money on a newer phone anyway, have you considered buying a cheap rezound from a third party (as in a nice used one off contract) and saving your upgrade for the next batch of new phones?
The other advantage there is the readily available development, and HTC dev unlock and s off, all of which exist already.
A friend of mine had an older phone that was decent, but wanted a new toy. He held his upgrade but bought a mint nexus 7 off of somebody local for an extremely cheap deal. Just throwing out ideas, I know it's not likely that's something you're wanting to do.
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I can agree with that. I love the brightness and vibrance of my GSIII screen, but it is nowhere near as sharp as my rezound. The battery life is pretty sick though.
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The battery life on the Rezound is, in my opinion, very poor. The only way my Rezound is useful to me is with the extended battery, which renders the phone a brick. Also, I'm tired of "plasticky" feeling phones. I haven't held a Droid DNA in my hands, but from what I've read about it, it feels more solid. That being said, I wouldn't get a Droid DNA until there's a strong dev community around it.
Appreciate the response guys. I'm probably going to just hold on to my upgrade. My Xperia Play may be a piece of garbage but it makes calls, browses reddit, and plays gameboy ROMs. I would have loved to get the 4g version of my phone but they just keep phasing out old phones and bringing in new ones so damn often.
Any phones I should be looking out for? I'm considering the DNA, but at 200 dollars on an upgrade that's pretty steep for me. Also, is a lack of micro SD becoming an industry standard? I don't keep up with the news like this, but reading some reviews for the DNA leads me to believe the 16 gig internal storage is all you get. I hope they don't go the way of Apple with memory capacity.
No. Save your upgrade for the next generation of phones.
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Appreciate the response guys. I'm probably going to just hold on to my upgrade. My Xperia Play may be a piece of garbage but it makes calls, browses reddit, and plays gameboy ROMs. I would have loved to get the 4g version of my phone but they just keep phasing out old phones and bringing in new ones so damn often.
Any phones I should be looking out for? I'm considering the DNA, but at 200 dollars on an upgrade that's pretty steep for me. Also, is a lack of micro SD becoming an industry standard? I don't keep up with the news like this, but reading some reviews for the DNA leads me to believe the 16 gig internal storage is all you get. I hope they don't go the way of Apple with memory capacity.
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That's becoming the industry standard on high end smartphones. Completely sealed except for the SIM slot. No expandable memory, no replaceable battery. I can see good and bad in it. I could easily get by with 8GB if I had to with everything I do being so cloud connected, but having more is nice and I don't like losing the option. The battery being internal is definitely doubled edged. It lets them optimize the battery to better utilize the internal space, which lets them squeeze the most out of the battery they can, but there are days I just need to pop a new one in.
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That's becoming the industry standard on high end smartphones. Completely sealed except for the SIM slot. No expandable memory, no replaceable battery. I can see good and bad in it. I could easily get by with 8GB if I had to with everything I do being so cloud connected, but having more is nice and I don't like losing the option. The battery being internal is definitely doubled edged. It lets them optimize the battery to better utilize the internal space, which lets them squeeze the most out of the battery they can, but there are days I just need to pop a new one in.
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Unfortunately the downfall to non expandable memory and cloud solutions is the tiered data plans that people are being forced into. Streaming any kind of music from say... Google music's cloud storage will burn through your data like you wouldn't believe(I have almost 10 GB of music on my phone). I just... don't like it. That's one reason I opted for my GSIII. The ability to have a 64GB SD is worth being behind slightly in software or hardware.
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I just got the rezound today for free coming from an s2 on Sprint. I must say I'm pretty impressed! It's a bit heavy and I'm not rooting until I my 14 day trial is up. The beats headphones is a win win. Keyboard sucks but I'm overall happy for my first day. I'm more concerned about this 2gb of data I'm sharing with my girl than the phone itself. The DNA looks good but the battery and no expandable memory killed it for me
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I love my rezound, but like others said..save ur upgrade. Ive always wanted an xperia play
Battery life is the only complaint I have on the rezound. Even a year old its as good or better than most other phones except a few high end phones. My wife got a razr m two months ago and its a very nice phone. Aside from the screen resolution its better than the rezound in almost everyway hardware wise. It's exactly the same hardware as the razr hd but a smaller screen. And it has jb. The ppi is crap on it is the only bad thing. And built in battery. But it does have an sd card. For an inexpensive phone it is extremely nice. But I still love my rezzie.
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Right now is quite possibly one of the worst times to upgrade your phone. Just keep waiting, and you'll be glad you did. Seriously.
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I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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the GS4 is in production right now and the samsung mobile director said at CES that he needs to crank it out ASAP to stay competitive. Just be patient
I've had my rezound fit amidst a week and got 10 hours battery life today with light use and still have 30%
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I am in the same boat as you. I renewed my contract before they stop grandfathering unlimited contracts and got the rezound. At this point I see no reason to upgrade. The phone has GSM, great screen, good camera, 4G(best part ), and it feels good. I would recommend this phone if you are in the market for a free one. If your desires are for something else make sure to research the community behind the phone. The GSIII has a CleanROM for it but unfortunately the developer jumps devices faster than most people can keep up. The rezound just got a relatively stable version of jelly bean that is only going to get better.
Hey everyone, I've encountered a little nuisance with my HTC One.
Under Storage the phone claims around 7GB is in use under "Other". However, when I plug the device into my computer via USB, I can't find any directories that are taking up this amount of space using Windows Explorer or Android Commander, which lets me down into the root of the filesystem.
FYI, I have Nova Launcher active as my primary UI, so I'm not even using Sense 5 at the moment. I know that 7GB can't just be Sense 5 + Built-in apps.
Anyone else seeing this and know what it is?
It actually probably is just Sense 5 and the AT&T bloat apps. Apparently Android along with the manufacturer's skins are pretty large now. Then add AT&T's useless apps that literally no one uses and you have 7gbs of storage being consumed. This is one of the reasons I'm going with the 64gb.
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its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
cachookaman said:
its the system partition and you cant do anything about it. mine is 16 GB.
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Wow, that's crap. What exactly is that being used for? There's no way 16gbs of space is reasonable at all.
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That's asinine that it reserves that much storage... Completely inexcusable when you factor in the lack of an SD card. Epic fail.
I think HTC realized that since they are releasing the Chinese version WITH microSD support... >_<
At least they aren't pulling the crap they used to - like with the Inspire - saying it had 4GB of storage but then formatting it for speed, dropping it to 2GB and leaving 1.3GB or so to the end user...
Still what the hell would they reserve a quarter of the storage for?!
im guessing the extra 9 GB that are part of my "other" are the SD card data for some of the apps i have installed. but it still seems excessive.
Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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Ugh, now we're seeing the ugly side of the HTC One. I don't think I'm going to keep mine now. I can't justify 7GB of my 32GB taken up by the system when I don't even use Sense 5 or any of the AT&T apps. Especially since I can't add more space to the phone, it's just not a good deal for me.
It's a shame too, it's a sexy device.
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It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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jtc276 said:
It's pretty common, honestly. The S4 also has around 7gbs of storage used.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah, but at least you can add an SD card to the phone to get some of that back.
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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jtc276 said:
Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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Agreed :good:
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Yeah but have fun finding one that isn't a 16gb version. I played with both phones today. The HTC One is superior in almost every area. I wouldn't really consider the S4.
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I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Camera, screen, speakers, CPU......
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spectrumfox said:
I'm curious, how is the HTC One superior?
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Ok. Take in mind that this is from someone who was dead set on getting the S4 only a week ago. I also want to add that my non-tech-savvy iPhone-using mother was with me at the AT&T store while I was comparing phones and also agreed that the One is better.
1. The screen is smaller on the One but it has better color reproduction and, when playing the trailer for 'Star Trek Into Darkness' on both devices, produced clearer results.
2. The One's software is much more optimized and runs smoother than that on the S4. In my half an hour of constant use with both devices, the One maybe had three instances of minor lag while the S4 produced lag (sometimes major lag) every few seconds. The S4's lag was most prominent when multitasking, hitting the back button, or going home. Switching between home screens produced some stuttering but was not terrible.
3. Speaking of software, the "features" on the S4 aren't that great. Probably the most difficult thing about using the S4 was trying out the Smart features. Many of them were pretty useless such as scrolling through web pages with hand gestures. However, it did actually work and work pretty well. I also really liked having the ability to answer the phone by waving in front of the phone and seeing some general information displayed on the phone after waving my hand in front of it while it was sleeping. But that's about as useful as it gets. I could never get Eye Tracking to work. Some kid beside me finally did after nearly a minute and a half of working with it which completely defeats the purpose of using it in the first place. None of the other features really worked well either making me wonder why Samsung decided to add them to the device and bog it down in the first place.
4. Build materials are pretty bland on the S4. I'm not going to criticize them for using plastic because plastic is durable enough, but I am going to criticize them for not really differentiating the phone from the S3 in terms of look. I was, however, impressed with how they implemented the 5" screen into such a compact and usable package, but that's about it. The S4 is no looker. My mom was also not a fan of the design, thinking at first that the hyper glazed finish was some sort of case and not the actual design.
5. Sound quality through the headphones was good on both devices but better on the One due to its added amplifier. The S4 had definitely improved over the S3 and maintained a pretty loud volume. The One was slightly louder and produced more dynamic results with great highs and lows. The average person would be happy with the sound quality from either, though.
6. The general Android apps such as Texting and Email are hardly changed on the S4. For some users, this will be fine. But, personally, I hate the stock Android Messaging app. I have a Nexus 4 and have used GoSMS since the day I purchased it. I don't understand why anyone would want to view a multiple picture MMS like a slideshow instead of each photo separately. Thankfully, the One does exactly that and has a rather perfect Messaging app. Of course, you can always download GoSMS or Handcent or something from the Play store, but the fact that this won't be necessary on the One is nice.
7. This is picky, but I really liked the One's keyboard. Like, a lot. I've been a stock Android keyboard user since ICS and I didn't think that choice would change with the purchase of any new phone. But the keyboard on the One is nice. Really nice. I almost never made mistakes on the keyboard when using it. On the S4, I couldn't stop making mistakes. If you're just going to use SwiftKey or the stock Android keyboard, this probably isn't a huge deal to you. But I found it shocking that I loved the One's keyboard.
So, yeah. This is a huge post but those are my honest opinions. I was as subjective as I possibly could be and my honest opinion is that the One is the better phone.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
HTC's storage doesn't give the user a run-down of the apps that are classified as Other when you select Other.
If I go to Storage on my Galaxy Note 10.1, and push Other (on the Galaxy Note 10.1, it is classified as Miscellaneous Files), I am given a run-down of the all of the app data that is classified as Other/Miscellaneous.
The Galaxy S3 (which I switched from to get The One) has it's storage implemented in the same way on the stock ROM.
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The storage space being reflected in Other is from App Data.
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Exactly, specifically the /data/data folder.
Whoever said it's the system partition is incorrect.
BTW, when you buy a 32GB device, that means 32GB total NAND storage. On the One it's broken down like this:
/system 1GB
/cache 629MB
/data and /sdcard (share the same partition) 22GB, or 54GB on a 64GB model.
The rest goes to modems (/firmware/mdm and /firmware/q6), secure (/data/secure/data and /mnt/asec), and miscellaneous other partitions (logs, etc.)
Every device on the market is this way, the total NAND space is divided up between a variety of things and the usable /data and /sdcard space is generally 80 to 85% of the total.
It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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It's not supposed to be like that. I've had that issue a few times on my 32gb M7. Copied my files to PC. Formatted my SD card. Copied files back. Reclaimed about 14gb each time as far as I can remember. Then after a few weeks, the issue comes back out of nowhere.
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Yeah, I'm the same only 7gb though. Using TWRP I make a backup on my usb-otg. Wiped everything internal and restored from usb. Worked once or twice, didn't work today though. Probably is just system files.