Need some talking into One X+ - HTC One X+

I know this isn't going to be the most unbiased place for honest opinions but I'm up for a dealer line on AT&T and I can choose from a couple different devices. I can get the S3, Optimus G, and One X+. I've always loved HTC phones and ESPECIALLY love the way the HOX feels in hand. I went into AT&T and tried playing around with the Optimus G but was turned off by how wide it felt in my hand. It's not Note wide but still wider than I'd like a phone to feel in my hand. I thought I was gonna fall in love with the screen but the One X is still a little better. The ONLY thing (and the reason I'm here) holding me back is the RAM. I'm not going to be tweaking the hell outta my phone, but I plan on unlocking it and putting a few custom ROM's on there. I just wanna know how limiting the 1GB of RAM is going to be for me? More is obviously better, but from an end result how important is it? Thanks guys. And one last question, how far along is development for ROM's? Is it comparable to something like the S3? Or better?

It's not 1 gig of ram it's 1.7 quad-core and very fast and smooth I can't speak on the other phones mentioned but I'm pleased with it.
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Paradoxically I suggest Samsung.
2 is more than 1.
The HTC is as fast as laptop and sound is amazing if you play high res flacs.

Gotta love these useless threads. Oh please tell me what to get, I can't read phone specs on my own, I can't have a mind of my own, I need someone to tell me. Oh geez. Just go to ATT and play with em all. Walk out with what feels right.

I'm not one to "tell you" what to get, but I've had all 3 (S3, Optimus G, and finally, the HTC One X+) and I can easily say, the HTC is the best physical designed phone, while the Optimus G is way to wide for my liking. I also didn't like the S3 because of its plasticy build and that it only had a dual-core and wasn't new hardware. I'm really digging the HTC and am gonna keep that.
P.S. From what I've read on other forums, the HTC's 1GB of RAM is faster than the 2GB of RAM, but I still would have preferred the Snapdragon S4 Pro and 2GB RAM over the Tegra 3 and 1GB RAM.
Hope this helped!

I think its simpler.
Don't forget that Samsung produce memory for different devices. For them fit 1Gb or 2Gb its not cost effecting final product but as we can see it works as marketing.
And even that little thing stops buying HTC.
Phone its very fast and can close all apps as to start it again is almost the same time.

I agree with you on the optimus, had the s3 and I just didnt like the samsung home button and ran kinda of hot for me. I ended up going with the "2 gb ram" note 2, hello a bigger s3 and returned that as well and now have an htc one x+ and so far pretty pleased. It kinda reminds me of my favorite smaller android devices that I got early on which was the htc aria. Just feels right in the hands so far and very powerful. I'd definitely go with the one x+ from the ones you mention.

Phones only need 1GB of ram. My note had 2GB of ram but i see no performance advantages to having it.
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Pandasaurus12 said:
I'm not one to "tell you" what to get, but I've had all 3 (S3, Optimus G, and finally, the HTC One X+) and I can easily say, the HTC is the best physical designed phone, while the Optimus G is way to wide for my liking. I also didn't like the S3 because of its plasticy build and that it only had a dual-core and wasn't new hardware. I'm really digging the HTC and am gonna keep that.
P.S. From what I've read on other forums, the HTC's 1GB of RAM is faster than the 2GB of RAM, but I still would have preferred the Snapdragon S4 Pro and 2GB RAM over the Tegra 3 and 1GB RAM.
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SGS 3 has a quad core exynos not a dual core
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smok15 said:
I think its simpler.
Don't forget that Samsung produce memory for different devices. For them fit 1Gb or 2Gb its not cost effecting final product but as we can see it works as marketing.
And even that little thing stops buying HTC.
Phone its very fast and can close all apps as to start it again is almost the same time.
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I am sorry to say but I do not understand what you are trying to say...at all! Not one single post
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AndroHero said:
SGS 3 has a quad core exynos not a dual core
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The S3 for AT&T had a dualcore Snapdragon S4 as it has LTE support.

AndroHero said:
Phones only need 1GB of ram. My note had 2GB of ram but i see no performance advantages to having it.
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SGS 3 has a quad core exynos not a dual core
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smok15 said:
I think its simpler.
Don't forget that Samsung produce memory for different devices. For them fit 1Gb or 2Gb its not cost effecting final product but as we can see it works as marketing.
And even that little thing stops buying HTC.
Phone its very fast and can close all apps as to start it again is almost the same time.
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This is pretty much what I was asking about. I wanted to know if HOX's 1GB really puts it at a disadvantage vs other 2GB RAM devices. Especially in the next year or so.

FYI:
On Android OS free RAM is dead RAM as discussed here
I never had ANY problems with running out of RAM on my One X nor my One X+
If a capped RAM of 1GB would be a problem for totally now mobile devices, these forums would be flöooded...go figure!

hardstuffmuc said:
FYI:
On Android OS free RAM is dead RAM as discussed here
I never had ANY problems with running out of RAM on my One X nor my One X+
If a capped RAM of 1GB would be a problem for totally now mobile devices, these forums would be flöooded...go figure!
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The two Meg of memory have a rather noticeable impact making multitasking much more powerful letting more apps run in parallel and reducing lags due to gc.
However, the one x+ apparently does some trickery to keep a good amount of memory free (even though the official Android parameters are still set lower).
In short, 2GB are a plus, but the one x+ never lets you feel the 1GB "limit". All runs smooth as butter...
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Painful legacy left Windows more and more memory.
You didn't write what phones you had before but I think One X is one of the best and like everyone here I am pleased.
You don't need that 2Gb. Its plays with big files faster than my brand new laptop. And don't crash like Windows.
You will be happy.
If you go to shop you can find that those guys use stereotypes or therms what they read or heard.
Also they are on commission what sell. So can direct you somewhere else.

smok15 said:
Painful legacy left Windows more and more memory.
You didn't write what phones you had before but I think One X is one of the best and like everyone here I am pleased.
You don't need that 2Gb. Its plays with big files faster than my brand new laptop. And don't crash like Windows.
You will be happy.
If you go to shop you can find that those guys use stereotypes or therms what they read or heard.
Also they are on commission what sell. So can direct you somewhere else.
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I've had an Evo before, a Galaxy S2, Lumia 900, couple Blackberries, etc. Pretty much a bunch of midrange devices through different OS'es. This is my first jump into flagship territory and just about the only two things holding me back from the One X+ are the 1GB of RAM and the mixed reviews on the Tegra 3 vs say a Snapdragon S4 or other dual core chips. I sell phones myself and that's why I cam get an OG, HOX+, or S3 right now. I wanted to just wait for the N4, but tbh I wasn't completely blown away by it. I initially looked at the G until I held that and the HOX+ in hand and I really liked the way it felt. So I may just go in and change that order.
Thanks for all the advice guys.

I came from a long line of HTC phones. I decided to give the s3 a shot. I used it for about two weeks and I flashed some custom roms. All the software and performance were great. However my main reason to exchanging it for the X+ was the s3 build quality. At the end of the day your phone is a phone. How does it feel in your hand? Can you use it with one hand? I could not get over the plasticy feel and loose bottoms. Side note on the loose buttons: I had the sales rep show me 3 brand new s3s they all had loose or some what loose buttons. I have to say the build quality and performance are fantastic on the X+. Exactly what I was looking for.
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Till now, 1gb of ram is enough on HOX+ as it's fast & smooth. I suffered with huge amount of installed apps on my Galaxy Nexus in term of ram (1gb). But I never noticed that with same apps on HOX+.
As the new Nexus is coming with 2gb ram, I think 2gb of ram will be needed soon.
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Looks like Nexus soon will get more operational memory than for apps and music.
Is internal memory slow? How many heads has a disk in HTC. 64Gb could be one. LOL

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[Q] Considering the SGS2

Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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TeamKilo said:
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
noneabove said:
I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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IamSnah said:
I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
IamSnah
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.

One X+ looks awesome but is that it?

Hey guys, I love the look of this phone, my favorite color scheme has always been red and black. But I don't want a good looking phone if its not going to perform like I want it to.
So my first concern is developer support. Since this is a very slight upgrade it is possible not many people in the development community will buy it unless it is compatible with the International One X roms? Will this be the case or not?
Second is to due with the Tegra 3. From my understanding the new S4 Pro destroys this processor. My current phone being a sensation which constantly lags I don't want to ever be subject to lag again. Is there really that much of a difference in the two processors?
Third is to due with the ram, 1gb compared to the 2gb in phones coming out now seems lackluster. What do you guys think of this, is it a huge limitation or is the 2gb of ram a fad?
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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Would also like to know if it will be able to run the one X roms.
I dont think it would take much to change to get it to boot correctly.
But who knows until its released and people try
Im due for a upgrade, and looking at this, unless people have a better device option to upgrade to.
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Would also like to know if it will be able to run the one X roms.
I dont think it would take much to change to get it to boot correctly.
But who knows until its released and people try
Im due for a upgrade, and looking at this, unless people have a better device option to upgrade to.
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I would imagine there would be some modifications that would need to be made and then ported over. I say this because from what I have seen on the one x, the Jelly Bean base which is out there for the one x+ will not work properly.
I would say go for the one x+ as it is the perfected version of the one x. All of the mistakes have been rectified. I have always stuck with HTC, although I do hear good things about Samsung.
Joshua3109 said:
Hey guys, I love the look of this phone, my favorite color scheme has always been red and black. But I don't want a good looking phone if its not going to perform like I want it to.
So my first concern is developer support. Since this is a very slight upgrade it is possible not many people in the development community will buy it unless it is compatible with the International One X roms? Will this be the case or not?
Second is to due with the Tegra 3. From my understanding the new S4 Pro destroys this processor. My current phone being a sensation which constantly lags I don't want to ever be subject to lag again. Is there really that much of a difference in the two processors?
Third is to due with the ram, 1gb compared to the 2gb in phones coming out now seems lackluster. What do you guys think of this, is it a huge limitation or is the 2gb of ram a fad?
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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1gb ram is plenty for the moment. It will be good to go for another year or two even. Tegra is very good from personal experience, and from modifications they have made for the one x+ it seems it will be a worthy contender to be matched with!
Quad core is only really utilised when gaming. So if your a mobile gamer then this shall do the trick!
meleelord said:
1gb ram is plenty for the moment. It will be good to go for another year or two even. Tegra is very good from personal experience, and from modifications they have made for the one x+ it seems it will be a worthy contender to be matched with!
Quad core is only really utilised when gaming. So if your a mobile gamer then this shall do the trick!
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I don't understand your points:
- 1GB is enough because of non-multitasking "feature" doesn't need more RAM? (Though it's a bit better now)
- Tegra is very good from personal experience? Are you kidding? I owned Galaxy Tab 10.1 (tegra 2), Asus TF Prime and Asus TF Infinity and for me Tegra SoCs are [email protected]

[Q] HTC One X+ v.s. Sony Xperia T v.s. LG Nexus 4

Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
Edit:
Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.

[Q] Convince me: One X+ over Galaxy S3

Ok. I'm planning to upgrade from my LG G2x (Wind Optimus 2X) to either with Galaxy S3 or the One X+ (North American - Telus Canada versions). I'm leaning to the S3, but I want to see if people on this forum can change my mind. My criteria:
- Real-life performance (benchmarks are moot)
- Battery-life
- Camera performance
- Construction quality
- Future proofing (ROM development both 3rd party or manufacturer)
Coming from the LG G2x, I've learned a lot of lesson on areas I've gotten burned. That's one reason I've ruled out the Nexus 4 (being LG) and that fact that 16GB is not freaking enough. Google is smoking dope if they think we can get everything off the cloud and don't need much storage...not when we're on a plane or in the subway. I've learned that nVidia is terrible and doesn't support or provide source code for the Tegra (at least for the Tegra 2), I've learned, that though the processor was great, the G2x was totally short on RAM 384MB (usable), I've learn that given all these issues both LG and developers here and there weren't spending much effort supporting the device.
I much prefer the design and construction of the One X+ over the Galaxy S3, I also prefer, Sense over TouchWiz, but I'm open to trying new ROMs, skins, and launchers. I prefer things to work well stock, out of the box, but again if I need to rolling in a new ROM (or just a nice update on Android, I'm happy to do so.)
So I've probably already convinced myself based on my criteria, the S3 is better choice for me, even though, I dread the look and the feel in hand, and the fact that it's as ubiquitous as the iPhone. So someone convince me otherwise to go with the One X+ instead.
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I just came from the s3 and all I can say is if you like features speed and a beautiful phone one x plus is for you as for development the s3 is going to be best if you like switching roms
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How do you find the battery life and camera compared to the S3? Reading reviews online and the battery thread here, I still sense the still S3 wins in those categories.
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I just came from the s3 and all I can say is if you like features speed and a beautiful phone one x plus is for you as for development the s3 is going to be best if you like switching roms
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I too came from the S3. I exchanged it for a One X+ yesterday. So far, the build quality is like day and night between the S3 and one X plus. The 64 gb of storage is useful as well.
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How do you find the battery life and camera compared to the S3? Reading reviews online and the battery thread here, I still sense the still S3 wins in those categories.
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It depends on what ROM you plan to use for battery life. I can't make a solid answer about battery yet, but I will say if you plan on gaming it eats up battery pretty quickly. IMO, I prefer the One X camera. Audio quality on the one X plus seems better as well. My advice would be to go to a store and try both phones out and see which one is best for you.
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How do you find the battery life and camera compared to the S3? Reading reviews online and the battery thread here, I still sense the still S3 wins in those categories.
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The battery is about the same as my s3, that I owned for 4 months it's about 8-19 hours depending on how heavy I use my phone mostly tapatalk YouTube pulse facebook talk and texting all day with some GPS navigation. The camera is about the same, (HTC camera software blows Samsung's out the water) HTC one x wins all the way in my book, the phone works great s3 software is still ics stock while the one x is jellybean.
One thing I wanna note is the one x plus has no lagg at all the speakers on the s3 internal and external sucks compared to onex+
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It depends on what ROM you plan to use for battery life. I can't make a solid answer about battery yet, but I will say if you plan on gaming it eats up battery pretty quickly. IMO, I prefer the One X camera. Audio quality on the one X plus seems better as well. My advice would be to go to a store and try both phones out and see which one is best for you.
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Not a lot gaming at all. More surfing, videos, and I tend to use navigation a lot when I'm travelling. I hate having my phone out of juice in the middle of the afternoon especially when I'm travelling in another city because I was using the navigation/GPS a lot.
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Not a lot gaming at all. More surfing, videos, and I tend to use navigation a lot when I'm travelling. I hate having my phone out of juice in the middle of the afternoon especially when I'm travelling in another city because I was using the navigation/GPS a lot.
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I too came from the S3. I exchanged it for a One X+ yesterday. So far, the build quality is like day and night between the S3 and one X plus. The 64 gb of storage is useful as well.
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It depends on what ROM you plan to use for battery life. I can't make a solid answer about battery yet, but I will say if you plan on gaming it eats up battery pretty quickly. IMO, I prefer the One X camera. Audio quality on the one X plus seems better as well. My advice would be to go to a store and try both phones out and see which one is best for you.
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For me personally there is also a non technical/specs related reason. I've always been a fan of HTC devices. Design, build quality and reliability is the best among Android devices. Eventhough competing brands might offer a specs wise slightly better device, I keep supporting HTC by buying their products. I want the company to stay in the Android phone business! Otherwise Samsung or Apple will soon be the only main manufacturers...
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For me personally there is also a non technical/specs related reason. I've always been a fan of HTC devices. Design, build quality and reliability is the best among Android devices. Eventhough competing brands might offer a specs wise slightly better device, I keep supporting HTC by buying their products. I want the company to stay in the Android phone business! Otherwise Samsung or Apple will soon be the only main manufacturers...
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Agree 100% on HTC as company. In fact, I was using HTC for my two previous devices prior to going to the LG G2x. Again big regret going to LG. But times have changed a bit and Samsung is really pulling ahead in the Android market. My biggest concern with One X+ reading around is the battery life. Right now it seems some people are doing fine with while others are having some serious battery drain issues. I might need to get the device and try it a couple of days to really find out for myself.
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Agree 100% on HTC as company. In fact, I was using HTC for my two previous devices prior to going to the LG G2x. Again big regret going to LG. But times have changed a bit and Samsung is really pulling ahead in the Android market. My biggest concern with One X+ reading around is the battery life. Right now it seems some people are doing fine with while others are having some serious battery drain issues. I might need to get the device and try it a couple of days to really find out for myself.
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Isn't there a 14-30 day period when u buy a phone that u can return it no questions asked with a new contract? If so, why does anyone need to tell anyone answers to questions they can figure out on their own? Lol. Get the S3, play with it for 10 days, return it for hox+, return it in 10 days, then stick with the one u like best. If u can't figure out battery life in 10 days then a smartphone probably ain't for u, lol! Some people
If you had to choose between phones, choose between the Optimus G or the HTC One X+. I say this because I personally want to spend $200 on a phone with 1.) Good Build Quality and 2.) not outdated Hardware (the S3 has a dual core, all phones now have quad core). If you want many ROMs, then get the S3. I've had all 3 phones, and I'm sticking with the One X+. Battery life is on par with S3, but the Optimus G has the best out of all. One X+ screen is on par with Optimus G, and they both blow the S3 screen. S3 and One X+ cameras are both good, Optimus G's is mediocre.
Hope this helped.
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Isn't there a 14-30 day period when u buy a phone that u can return it no questions asked with a new contract? If so, why does anyone need to tell anyone answers to questions they can figure out on their own? Lol. Get the S3, play with it for 10 days, return it for hox+, return it in 10 days, then stick with the one u like best. If u can't figure out battery life in 10 days then a smartphone probably ain't for u, lol! Some people
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I'm in Canada, so things are a little different with our carriers. My current provider had a 30min voice and 50MB data usage limit to void the device return policy even though the period is 14 days. I'll have to look into Telus's policy more closely if they also have something similar. That and we have 3 yr contracts and better healthcare...
I just returned my One X+. I wanted it because I really like the 64GB of internal storage. Plus I was getting bored with my Galaxy S3. I knew I was losing RAM but figured it was worth the trade off (the U.S. GS3 has 2GB RAM vs 1GB for One X+).
I have the GS3 with AOKP and after using the One X+ I realized it is NOT faster than my GS3 like I was thinking it would be. I knew the One X+ was not as friendly to root and flash ROMs like the GS3 but I was willing to just leave it stock. It's not that it lagged or anything. It works great as is. It's just that having the Galaxy S3 and iPhone 5 (Nexus 4) it did not offer the performance boost I was looking for. As for the storage, my GS3 does have less internal storage but it does accept SD cards.
It does play better looking games than the US GS3 with its Adreno 225. It will get really hot playing the high end games but I had a case on so I didn't feel it as much. The One X+ GPU is not better than the iPhone 5 GPU or even the Nexus 4 with its Adreno 320. I knew that before hand but was still fine with that. I just mention it here in case you didn't know.
As for battery life, I had a PowerSkin on my One X+ that offers some protection AND has spare battery power if and when needed. So I didn't have a battery problem myself.
If your fine not having a device that's as friendly to hack and has as much developer support then I would say the One X+ would be good over the GS3. I didn't like that by keeping my One X+ stock that I couldn't disable all the bloat but it was a small price to pay I guess.
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I just returned my One X+. I wanted it because I really like the 64GB of internal storage. Plus I was getting bored with my Galaxy S3. I knew I was losing RAM but figured it was worth the trade off (the U.S. GS3 has 2GB RAM vs 1GB for One X+).
I have the GS3 with AOKP and after using the One X+ I realized it is NOT faster than my GS3 like I was thinking it would be. I knew the One X+ was not as friendly to root and flash ROMs like the GS3 but I was willing to just leave it stock. It's not that it lagged or anything. It works great as is. It's just that having the Galaxy S3 and iPhone 5 (Nexus 4) it did not offer the performance boost I was looking for. As for the storage, my GS3 does have less internal storage but it does accept SD cards.
It does play better looking games than the US GS3 with its Adreno 225. It will get really hot playing the high end games but I had a case on so I didn't feel it as much. The One X+ GPU is not better than the iPhone 5 GPU or even the Nexus 4 with its Adreno 320. I knew that before hand but was still fine with that. I just mention it here in case you didn't know.
As for battery life, I had a PowerSkin on my One X+ that offers some protection AND has spare battery power if and when needed. So I didn't have a battery problem myself.
If your fine not having a device that's as friendly to hack and has as much developer support then I would say the One X+ would be good over the GS3. I didn't like that by keeping my One X+ stock that I couldn't disable all the bloat but it was a small price to pay I guess.
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You do realize the one x+ has a 12 core gpu. IPhone 5 is a quad gpu and I'm not sure about the s4 pro.
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lol. You believe because it has more cores that makes it better? The “cores" are not equal at all. The GPU's are different. And although you see that number you are very mistaken to think that makes it more powerful. Its not. Its not even close to being the same.
No the iPhone 5 has a 3 core GPU. The iPad last I check has the quad core GPU to push all those extra pixels. Benchmarks can show how many frames the devices run loading and playing certain things. The iPhone 5 in mine and others who done it handles and plays way smoother with mores frames in those intense benchmark 3D tests.
I forgot some people can't accept a device they like or has being less powerful and beaten by other devices. In whatever area. I didn't mean to make think the One X+ GPU is not good. It just really is not better than the other two I listed. Once my devices GPUs are beaten by others I have no problem accepting that. In fact, I said the Tegra-3 was better than my Adreno 225 in my GS3.
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not outdated Hardware (the S3 has a dual core, all phones now have quad core).
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the international version has a quad core.
Why would anyone bother convincing you. Its your flipping choice.
If you wanna follow the crowed like a sheep then you will get the s3 any way.
Ow by the way the s3 is made for humans, we aliens use the one x...
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If you had to choose between phones, choose between the Optimus G or the HTC One X+. I say this because I personally want to spend $200 on a phone with 1.) Good Build Quality and 2.) not outdated Hardware (the S3 has a dual core, all phones now have quad core). If you want many ROMs, then get the S3. I've had all 3 phones, and I'm sticking with the One X+. Battery life is on par with S3, but the Optimus G has the best out of all. One X+ screen is on par with Optimus G, and they both blow the S3 screen. S3 and One X+ cameras are both good, Optimus G's is mediocre.
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I'm passing on the Optimus G and Nexus 4 as well given my bad experience with my LG G2x...it's probably the worst experience I've had with a phone.

[Discussion] Does a Snapdragon 600 processor really a deal Breaker for this phone?

The title says it all, is having a Snapdragon 600 processor really a deal breaker?
Share your thoughts! Please no bashing, or rude languages. Respect everyones opinion. This is a discussion thread.
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Absolutely not a deal breaker for me.
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Not me but there are other reasons why I might not get the ONE Max
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I'm glad the One Max will have the Snap 600. I'm on Verizon and *hope* that we can break what I'm sure will be a locked bootloader with the same unlock method beaups created for the Verizon One.
It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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Wow you going from one extreme to another. The One Max which is a over size overweight phablet with probably a upgrade price of $299 to a slim lightweight phone with a 5.2 screen with a upgrade price of $0.
With that said see you over at the G2 side of things.
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Wow you going from one extreme to another. The One Max which is a over size overweight phablet with probably a upgrade price of $299 to a slim lightweight phone with a 5.2 screen with a upgrade price of $0.
With that said see you over at the G2 side of things.
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I can't get the BestBuy discount. I'm on EPRP plan. G2 looks like $200 on upgrade price via Sprint.......
It will be $249.99 on Sprint with contract.
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The 600 is not slow by any means and the phone feels amazing. Even the size is OK, initially OK it does feel massive but like all phones you get past that and it just feels normal, the 600 is still going to be fast in 2 years time so not the end of the world.
Also contracts in the UK are free to get, it appears that its only in the states were u have to pay stupid money just to get a contract.
Im due two upgrades, one this month and one in November, plus I've already got the HTC one, so might even hold fire for something better.
Only problem for me is that HTC will probably release an 800 version and call it the one max XE. Which will just be a massive sucker punch to anyone who bought the original.
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htc wont bring out a snapdragon 800 version
they said the one line is the 600er line this year ... thats it ... next year it will be the next line of products .... htc two or something
and then they will use another soc
Yes that's one of the deal breakers for me and i am guessing that's the same for most of the tech crowd around. i am not saying that SD 600 is slow and old, but the competing phones just win so easily.
I am not happy to put my money on a phone that's running an old processor. If it was like computers that i can swap out the CPU later after 1 year i would happily get this phone.
800 has improvements in GPU and power utilization that will be easily seen in such a phone, it could have been the most brilliant thing if an 800 was used and under-clocked to 1.7 Ghz
not to mention, in a few months even the 800 will be thrown away from the top spot.
It was for me plus the 4MP camera and a few other things. I held out for this phone hoping for something great but HTC failed to deliver. As soon as Max launched I went out and bought a Note 3 - totally awesome phone. Now just one failing HTC phone (Sensation) in the family soon to be replaced by an S4.
I watch HTC's demise with sadness.
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paulrh said:
It was for me plus the 4MP camera and a few other things. I held out for this phone hoping for something great but HTC failed to deliver. As soon as Max launched I went out and bought a Note 3 - totally awesome phone. Now just one failing HTC phone (Sensation) in the family soon to be replaced by an S4.
I watch HTC's demise with sadness.
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I just ordered my One MAX. i have used the HTC One and from my experience i know that this 4MP camera is amazing and more practically usable than the other phone camera. There is with a reason that HTC One was crowned the best mobile phone of the year.
It came very close to being a deal breaker, but I'm not a big gaming enthusiast or a Samsung fan (GS3). Additionally I found enough articles saying the One Max's performance -- benchmark scores not withstanding -- felt on par or just as good as the Note 3. Personally the lack of a specialized stylus was a bigger potential deal breaker than the Snapdragon 600.
With that being said, I have a Note 3 Developer Edition on backorder with the Samsung site. If Samsung ever delivers on the backorder, I'll know more then as to whether the 800 really makes that much of a difference.
I couldnt care less what kind of processor is in ANY phone I buy. If it is smooth, quick, no lag, and handles everything I throw at it, THATS all that matters in the real world.
I came from a Note 2, which had the same processor and ram, and, frankly, this phone is smoother than the note 2 ever was, even with the custom roms and AOSP that I had on it...I'm sure its because TouchWiz sucks the life out of any phone, and Sense 5.5 doesnt seem to.
Hopefully, development picks up for the one max, so we can see how it handles ASOP roms, but, no matter what, this phone is super smooth, handles anything you ask it to do effortlessly, so stop getting hung up on processor names, and model numbers, and just pay attention to how a phone works for YOU..
Geronimo.USMC said:
It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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One up promotion, $10 Employee referral discount. This is what I have. I gave them an 8 y/o phone to start it up, and I only paid tax.
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I couldnt care less what kind of processor is in ANY phone I buy. If it is smooth, quick, no lag, and handles everything I throw at it, THATS all that matters in the real world.
I came from a Note 2, which had the same processor and ram, and, frankly, this phone is smoother than the note 2 ever was, even with the custom roms and AOSP that I had on it...I'm sure its because TouchWiz sucks the life out of any phone, and Sense 5.5 doesnt seem to.
Hopefully, development picks up for the one max, so we can see how it handles ASOP roms, but, no matter what, this phone is super smooth, handles anything you ask it to do effortlessly, so stop getting hung up on processor names, and model numbers, and just pay attention to how a phone works for YOU..
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i wish HTC releases a Google play edition for the MAX.i wonder how difficult it will be for dev's to port the GE version of One to the MAX.
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i was really worried about the processor, however i do take back my words, SD 600 is good enough for me.
Having come from a Galaxy Note 2 to the One Max, I would say the One Max would have definitely benefited from the SD800. While the Note 2 did have a 720p screen as opposed to the 1080p, it was snappier due to less strain on the gfx processing. I can feel lag in gaming due to the increased resolution on the One Max. When I used my friends Note 3, I saw none of the same lag I was getting on the One Max.
Now, do I regret choosing the One Max over the Note 3? Not really. I kept flip flopping back and forth between them for my upgrade. I really like the bigger size of the One Max, the front speakers, and aluminum body (minus the horrid choice of white plastic in between the sheets). One the Note 3, the faster processor was nice, but overall, that's all it had to offer. There was one game that I really enjoyed that made use of the Note stylus, but I already beat it and hardly ever took the stylus out for anything else. Plus the upgrade only cost me $109 through Amazon as opposed to $199 for the Note 3 only made it even sweeter.
Ryououki said:
Having come from a Galaxy Note 2 to the One Max, I would say the One Max would have definitely benefited from the SD800. While the Note 2 did have a 720p screen as opposed to the 1080p, it was snappier due to less strain on the gfx processing. I can feel lag in gaming due to the increased resolution on the One Max. When I used my friends Note 3, I saw none of the same lag I was getting on the One Max.
Now, do I regret choosing the One Max over the Note 3? Not really. I kept flip flopping back and forth between them for my upgrade. I really like the bigger size of the One Max, the front speakers, and aluminum body (minus the horrid choice of white plastic in between the sheets). One the Note 3, the faster processor was nice, but overall, that's all it had to offer. There was one game that I really enjoyed that made use of the Note stylus, but I already beat it and hardly ever took the stylus out for anything else. Plus the upgrade only cost me $109 through Amazon as opposed to $199 for the Note 3 only made it even sweeter.
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if you are gamer, do follow the gaming thread from the original HTC one. we have scripts which would making your gaming lag free and last long without thermals. I believe these scripts should work for the One MAX as well.
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And once we get the kernel sources, the dev's will be able to unleash the GFX power of SD 600. From what i know gaming (atleast with help of devs) on SD 600 is highly smooth and long lasting - It seems like SD 800 is very power hungry and makes your battery drain faster compare to SD 600. I know SD 800 is supposed to be better at battery usage, however this is specifically for gaming and SD 800 also seems to heat faster which also will contribute to battery drain.

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