So I've had my Prime for a while now. Got it from GameStop, and of course it game pre-loaded with some games. However, it is obvious GameStop sideloaded those games because although the Google Market, sorry, I mean the Google Play Store will tell me some of the games need updates, it won't let me install such updates. The error is typically that when trying to update they realized I didn't own those games.
I had emailed GameStop about this some time back. Their response was simply that nothing could be done.
I tried emailing one of the developers, for Shadowgun, and to date they haven't bothered to respond to me.
This is irritating to me. My games are stuck in time because GameStop won't provide updates, and the Market/Play Store won't let me update cause it thinks they aren't valid copies. Is there ANYTHING I can do here to get these apps updated legally?
Thanks,
K.
Hm, doesn't sound very good bro, if GameStop themselves refuse to do something against it, I don't think anyone else will care. Sorry to say that, but I think there's not a big chance for you to get your updates.
However, there are still two steps I would think of:
1. Have you written to Google and described your problem to them already?
2. If you really are keen on those updates, you could look for a guide to remove those games, uninstall the Play Store updates and buy them a second time (as they are marked as "Paid" up to now, aren't they?). As I said, I don't think that's an option for ya, but, who knows...?
Yeah, trying not to have to repurchase...but I figured that is the only way I can do this...hence why I posted. Was hoping there might be a way.
I suppose emailing Google might be worth a shot, but my gut tells me they'll just say its up to GameStop since they put the games on the tablet. AKA: you installed from outside our market, not our problem. I could be wrong though.
K.
Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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I had bad experience with Amazon store, they take long time to approve apps.
Imo there is no good enough alternative for Google Play at the moment
Same here, rather bad luck with Amazon to date...
wststreet said:
Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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I have tried amazon app store and publish it for free, i see your app is live wallpaper and as i know Kindle users do not like live wallpapers.
i suggest you try slideMe appstore.
Buddy... Wait till google add romania to the merchant list... ..
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Both amazon and getjar weren't really useful for me. I did get more traffic from the Opera store. Since my game focuses on in app purchases to make $ it's hard to get traction on any other store since currently I use IAB.
What kind of app did you have? Games I think are most successful with ads, but in the end it depends from app to app, I guess.
You can try Samsung App here: http://seller.samsungapps.com/
I have bad experience with Amazon. Low downloads and last weeks Admob ecpm is extremely low (about 0.05). Has anybody tried to integrate Amazon's banner ads?
Amazon app store is an avenue that developers are still figuring out how to utilize optimally for their purpose.
I agree with most of what has been said here... I don't get even 1% of the amount of downloads from Amazon as I do from Play. In my opinion it is just not Amazon's focus as Play is "THE" store front for apps. I think like most business ventures, it has a lot to do with timing. What kind of niche are your getting into. If super saturated, you may need to create a category within a category in order to reach new users.
You can win Kindle Fire HD now for integrating their api.
https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/mobileads.html
Agreeing with previous posters that Google Play doesn't have a good enough alternative yet...
Have tried SlideMe and Amazon and neither have got close to the Play Store in my case.
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Agreeing with previous posters that Google Play doesn't have a good enough alternative yet...
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True, but ARPU on Amazon is far better than on GPlay. Of course GPlay is x10 (at least) when it comes to its reach but if you have a good app, use Amazon's APIs (ads, inapps, etc.) and talk to them, you might get featured. My experience is they actually respond to emails
Amazon Appstore will not make you uber-rich but it's a valid option, much better than GetJar imho.
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Just a company who thought they could add Google play without permission. Google will shoot down their request and people will have to sideload like we do on gg
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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They're still working on it, actually, and my understanding is that no 240x240 screen sized device will be capable of supporting it under android 4.3, so they may have it out when they update to 4.3, pending Google's say-so.
So a device that does not have certification for a version of Android that doesn't even exist yet is a fraud?
As far as it not coming on the Android 4.2.2 version, that was public knowledge back in early September.
Oh BTW
"While all efforts are made to ensure timely completion of software functions, software development too can have unforseeable delays which may result in software functions being delivered in an update after a product has shipped."
On the Omate KS page since Aug 21st 2013
Hell. At least they updated you about it vs threatening folks publicly when ever anybody brought up any real issues.
BAWWWWWWWWWW QQ more. This isn't new knowledge and you're an idiot for thinking a company is a fraud because they hit a hiccup they didn't count on when bringing their product to the US.
This is XDA. You're complaining in the wrong place.
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kevinb77 said:
That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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Are you serious?!? Name at least one crowdfunding campaign that treated their backers with as much respect, which had as many detailed updates, which had stayed on schedule, which has worked so hard around the globe? They came up front about Play store hiccup and even offered an alternative of another on-line store until they will resolve licensing issue with Google (which btw they are working on actively).
I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week. But I work for a manufacturer of medical devices and if we advertise something to be in our product it has to be there or we would get our assess sued into bankruptcy. My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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No need for name calling man. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this situation.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I certainly was not trying to belittle anyone in the XDA universe.
But the solution of sideloading the Play Store apk is unsettling to me. I own an OUYA and was an early adopter of one of the first Android tablets, the Viewsonic G-book. I have also been rooting and roming since the DROID 1. While ROMS and sideloading is great, it's just unstable and in some situations becomes a full-time job of keeping up with updates and fixes.
I love messing with my devices as much as anyone else here, but for once I'd like to just buy an Android device that I didn't feel the need to have to change in someway, and spending upwards to $300 on an Android device in 2013 with its fair amount of promises should deliver on them.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until they definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week.
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ORLY. AGAIN, the play store (Google Services) issue was a matter of public knowledge for over a month.
kevinb77 said:
My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Should they have removed the mention of Play Store being included back in early Sept? In my opinion yes. The release that recently came out should have also been done back then as well. "unethical"? Maybe. Criminal? No. The disclaimer that was a the bottom of their KS since day one covers their ass. Period, end of story, thanks for playing.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until that definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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All the KS units are in the clear. The pre-orders may be another matter.
In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent. Regarding Omate, I have a pretty good feeling that even if they would have published this disclaimer while campaign was active - they still would have gotten as much supporters/backers because for a lot of the people not including Google play store is not a show stopper. With a ways around it (sideloading), and alternative store, and active updates about working with Google to resolve this officially, I still say they built a strong community trust.
Btw, with Google planning to release their own smartwatch and probably a pressure from tanking Gear, something tells me there are political reasons for Google to continue delaying their decision. Just my conspiracy theory
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In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent.
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At least Omate have admitted that Google Play support won't be there out the box, unlike AI Smartwatch, which is in the same position. They are still giving the impression it comes with Play store.
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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It does not sadly. I mean its still useable but the issues it does have make it not very good to use so it really needs a rom that works properly.
the rom thats on it is custom build version: OMATE_HW2.0_20130923.115849 and the model number is listed as OMATE.
but yeah I'd be really grateful if someone does make a custom rom for it that works properly and tells me which google play store version to install and were to get the apk etc, I'm also guessing they would need to make a rooting app for it too so it could be flashed tho right?
Why can't I trust another app store on my android devices besides google play store? My Amazon fire also is restricted to Amazon's App store, and consquently I have a few paid apps on both google and amazon. I trust Amazon just as much as Google when it comes to Applications, so why can't I make my phone trust it? Instead everytime I update I have to trust unknown sources. To me this is a huge vunerability over giving Amazon trust to install over any .apk the ability to install.
At this point I'm actually surprise no one has gone after Amazon, Google, Apple, and even Microsoft for violating monolopy laws. They are restricting us from efficiently going to their competitors for software; saying if you use this hardware you must us our software.