The Web is still full of sites which use Flash which is why Adobe are still supporting Flash on Windows laptops and desktops for the forseeable future.
On Android there is excellant desktop support for Flash using premium browsers such as Dolphin, Skyfire, Boat etc. which provide the same Web experience on the Nexus 10 as using a Windows laptop or desktop.
However, because Apple does not support Flash then the iPad will never be able to use the Web as well as the Nexus 10 or a Windows laptop or desktop no matter how many apps there are to compensate.
Erm...okay?
so what's the question... xD
This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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This. If only Flash was dying, but it isn't. Half the web is Flash, and if you want streaming, an OS that supports it is a must.
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Not exactly a question lol. Are you trying to state that the Nexus 10 is better for browsing because it can support Flash?
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Sould I state my opinion with question marks? Hell, why not?
Which devices gives you the more complete browsing experience, the one that can display all pages and content, or the one that cannot?
You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
Neither will do it out of the box.Both do it with 3rd party apps.
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You do know that browsers like skyfire and puffin are available for the iPad as well and support flash pretty well right?
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Yeah but Adobe had longer support for Android, so I'd imagine flash content is more stable even post-ICS.
Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
I don't care about flash
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Who cares if the iPad can't run Flash. Flash is being deprecated all over the web. I don't have any special love for Apple but you can credit the iPad's lack of Flash for most of the video sites offering HTML5 instead.
I haven't bothered to install Flash on my Nexus 10. Not missing it at all.
What gives you the most complete web experiance ? The the new surface rt lol. What is the point of this post it is pointless and only brings up android vs apple.
Some one please close this thread its people like this that give android a bad name.
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Can anyone confirm this for me as I have not got a ICS or later device (yet).
If a website has a menu structure where the user hovers the mouse to get the menu to pop up on desktop, if the root of the menu had a link in android you could never get into the menu structure because whenever you press to bring up the menu it actually redirects you to the page, whereas in iOS it does not do that and will bring up the menu.
That is one disadvantage I have with Android, if there is a fix that I am not aware of then yea inform me
Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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Ok aside from flash, my big concern after owning a tf300 is just over all expereince..the tf300 was slow...tried every browser and it just wasn't as responsive. i know that most people blamed the I/O on the TF300.
At work we just got a shipment of Ipad 4's and just messing with them and surfing the web it is very fast and fluid. Can i expect the same from nexus 10? I konw the Chrome browser is not the best, but maybe using Dolphin or boat?
I have only seen a couple of youtube video's testing this
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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Thats good news, thanks for the info!
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With Ocean Browser the Nexus 10 is as smooth as the iPad 4. With Dolphin + JetPack is also comes close but it has a few wonky glitches that hold it back.
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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I tried to get a video demonstration on Ocean Browser but I couldn't find any. Not many comments on it either, that's one rare stuff, any review of it around?
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No luck here either, would love to see one
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Apple has 3rd party apps that support flash as well.
I would typically not be using flash in day to day Web browsing, and don't have my primary browser set to support flash.
Both tablets are pretty good for Web browsing. The n10 loads pages very quickly. I prefer the aspect ratio of the n10 for Web browsing compared to the iPad.
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Good 2 know, thx
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome
Sweet!!!
Chrome on Android... Yikes~!
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End of Story & Browser debate!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome
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Thanks Man!!! Installing now, this is huge!!!
Kan any one please publish the apk, for us pore non eng users
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Just installed it myself. In fact, I've using it for this post.
I've tried some of the more intensive sites that I know; cnet, ign and espn. I'm sure there are better test canidates.
So far, I'm putting it on par with Dolphin, but the native support for ICS makes me hopeful.
Its pretty fast, good for a beta. Faster than stock browser by a mile. Lacks request desktop site at the moment but thats not a big problem.
This is odd, but is anyone else having problems using a capital "c"? I'm using the dock and all it does is backspace.
Was super excited to see this, but the first thing I noticed was none of the keyboard shortcuts that work with dock+stock browser work in chrome . Can't Ctrl+t to open new tab or anything like that.
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Kan any one please publish the apk, for us pore non eng users
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Here you go.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3xaxwd2xrn0rkgr
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Now here too:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...et-the-chrome-for-android-beta-apk-right-now/
I'm going to use it because it seems quicker than the stock ICS browser, but it does NOT support Flash.
hate to say it but Opera still blows this out of the water for loading and smoothness even just loading these forums and scrolling down in threads......
this is sick! anyone know how to change the user agent?
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this is sick! anyone know how to change the user agent?
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doesn't look like its available yet... remember this is the first BETA.
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.3; en-us; Transformer Prime TF201 Build/IML74K) AppleWebKit/535.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) CrMo/16.0.912.75 Safari/535.7
Doesn't have the keyboard shortcuts of stock or a way to change UA and such AFAIK. Hopefully these will change in time and the Beta will get updated frequently (like Chrome) and not once in a blue moon like Chrome to Phone.
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My understanding is that flash for mobile is on its way out. Maybe that's why? I agree, it does suck though.
A single quick run on Sunspider 0.9.1 Javascript Test (smaller is better):
Stock ICS Browser: 2332.2 ms
Mobile Chrome Beta: 1858.7 ms
...about 25% faster on javascript. Not bad.
Edit: and Opera Mobile: 1746.2 ms
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My understanding is that flash for mobile is on its way out. Maybe that's why? I agree, it does suck though.
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Yeah... HTML5 will replace that and adobe has already said they are killing any more releases to Flash for mobile. But, that doesn't mean it is gone. And, granted the tablet is running android, it shouldn't be on the same par as a 'mobile' device like a phone. These things have more computing power than phones. Flash shouldn't even be an issue to run on the Prime.
You beat me to posting this. Awesome browser.
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I know its beta, but so far, I'm liking Dolphin a little bit better. Creature of habit maybe, but scroll speed and general ease of use are a notch above Chrome.
I think the big difference you will notice with this release is that after leaving your prime for 30 mins and returning your open tabs will not refresh.
I got better BrowserMark and Sunspider benchmarks on my TFP running the latest Virtuous ROM at 1.6 ghz than my wife's ipad2. I'm happy with just about everything on my TFP except videos on web pages. When it comes to loading and starting video clips, ipad2 smokes my TFP. For example, click on any videos at cnn.com website. Ipad2 loads and plays them much more quickly. I went to Best Buy and played with the Acer, Toshiba, Samsung tablets. They are all like my TFP. I wonder what Apple did to make ipad2 so fast in this department. Guys, don't tell me "Get an iPad2". I'm an Android guy. I'm curious why and how. Can Android one day match it, i.e. if it's not just hardware?
I'd suggest that the Android tablets are all playing Flash streams, whereas the iPad is playing H264 streams specifically optimised for it (as it doesn't play Flash).
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I'd suggest that the Android tablets are all playing Flash streams, whereas the iPad is playing H264 streams specifically optimised for it (as it doesn't play Flash).
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Yes, this. A better test would be to go to sites with only Flash video, and see which is faster...........
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Yes, this. A better test would be to go to sites with only Flash video, and see which is faster...........
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aren't these threads getting redundant? its a never ending battle..lol
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aren't these threads getting redundant? its a never ending battle..lol
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Very much so...
it's magic from the Foxconn factories. See, Foxconn bought the land not knowing it was laden with magical properties.
These magical properties are passed on to the iDevices, making them magically faster at rendering h264 than the TP can render flv streams.
@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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fair enough. one possible reason is because when you go to the site on the Ipad, it goes to the html5 version, which Ipad optimized for. when you go to same site on prime, its different and uses flash instead. Ipad doesn't play flash video so it automatically plays any html5 videos.
that's the reason. when you go to the same site on both devices, they aren't loading up the exact same thing. different versions of the same site.
it could depend on what browser you using on prime. IMO, stock browser sucks. Fastest one is Opera mobile and I've found it to play flash videos the best and fastest also.
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@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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@foxmeister already answered why. Those sites are optimized for the iPad, whereas the Prime is running Flash video. As to whether Android will ever catch up, sure, when all sites are converted to HTML5 for video. Until then, we have to be satisfied with a wider variety of video (more sites still support Flash video than are optimized for the iPad) but lesser performance in some cases.
I suppose it's just frustrating to see so many iPad - Prime comparisons that I knee-jerked a reaction. My apologies.
Change your UA string to iPad and try again....
Know what? Lot of these browsers let you choose the user agent: have you tried, say, Boat Browser set to iPad?
Just wondering, I haven't played with it much and it seems to like to crash with a lot of videos, but it's worth a try to play around and when it does actually work it feels pretty good.
Uninstall flash
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Because you're comparing apples to oranges. Don't like it? Buy an iPad2 already and get off our forums.
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Because you're comparing apples to oranges. Don't like it? Buy an iPad2 already and get off our forums.
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You don't even know what comparing apples to oranges means. I'm comparing the same video running on the same website. How's that comparing apples and oranges? "Our forums"? Really? You can't even read. Xda members are not dumb and unhelpful like you.
On CNN, if you access it with TFP (with User Agent set to Desktop or Android) and Windows 7, you get their video in Flash; with iPad, I'm guessing it's something else, probably H264/HTML5 like a couple of members said, which starts significantly faster, about 20-30 secs faster than the TFP on a side-by-side, and still faster than my wired Intel i5 1.6Ghz 4G RAM Windows 7 HP Folio notebook. CNN obviously has optimized a version of the site for iPad. But damn, it's really fast.
It's a similar situation on CNET. Flash for TFP and Windows 7, something else for ipad. The site's video starts faster for ipad but not as that much as on CNN. I guess not as optimized as CNN for iPad.
When I set User Agent to iPad on both ICS Browser+ and Dolphin HD. Video on CNN starts a little faster but still nowhere at the speed of iPad. I guess I will user iPad mode for the User Agent setting.
On sites, like Engadget, that has YouTube videos, videos start at about the same speed with iPad a tad faster. But when it comes to strict Flash video, I don't have to say it, but iPad is out of luck.
Another thing is iPad's robustness. My TFP has rebooted 3 times during my little tests while iPad is playing the vidoes merrily, going back and forth full screen to windowed screen. Don't tell me you don't want videos to start fast and be robust. I love Android for its enormous possibilities and choices so I can live with a few crashes, some lagginess here and there. I do want to have eventually a complete fast, smooth, and robust experience. I know there'll be a lot of people saying I'm wasting my time. But I think Google, Android developers should hear this more often, get competitive guys.
I use Dolphin religiously and Desktop user agent w/o AdBlock is going to get you pretty awful performance on any Android tablet.
Android user agent is most definitely the best way to go. Tried using Netflix's website on iPad ua and it was completely unusable. Couldn't even look at movie summary pages.
Will jelly bean get adobe flash support?
Thats a good question, i too would like to know. Im guessing ics versions will probably work, but i could be wrong.
Adobe said they were stopping flash for mobiles....so I doubt it.
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Adobe said they were stopping flash for mobiles....so I doubt it.
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That's what I read on my news feed a week or so ago too. I wonder what we will do without flash???
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That's what I read on my news feed a week or so ago too. I wonder what we will do without flash???
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HTML5
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HTML5
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html 5 is good enough but at the moment it can only play videos on youtube or daily motion etc but there are 10000 of sites which cant play video without flash plugin. i also use to watch online movies so what about that websites without flash?? how they will manage? and btw why google is adopting apple's like policy not to use flash!! ?? flash player is one of the major software which the end users of android enjoys alot!!
also there are many websites which requires flash for online games. i wonder what is going to happen?
btw why google is not adopting apple's like policy not to use flash!! ??
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Apple cares more about 'user experience' than legacy support.
Additionally HTML5 sucks big time at a lot of things because there is no real standard (only lots and lots of contradicting drafts and implementations) so it's the IE-nightmare all over for web designers.
I'm sure someone will figure how to port ICS-version to Jellybean, or at least to the AOSP/CM9 ROM's since it would be possible to implement compatibility to legacy versions.
Flash-support is one of the main selling points for Android tablets over iPads with normal users so I don't see the manufacturers dropping it lightly. They might adopt Chrome's approach of maintaining Flash support themselves.
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Apple cares more about 'user experience' than legacy support.
Additionally HTML5 sucks big time at a lot of things because there is no real standard (only lots and lots of contradicting drafts and implementations) so it's the IE-nightmare all over for web designers.
I'm sure someone will figure how to port ICS-version to Jellybean, or at least to the AOSP/CM9 ROM's since it would be possible to implement compatibility to legacy versions.
Flash-support is one of the main selling points for Android tablets over iPads with normal users so I don't see the manufacturers dropping it lightly. They might adopt Chrome's approach of maintaining Flash support themselves.
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yea thats the main point. flash should not be removed at any cost. and i think google wants to improve speed and performance in its upcoming versions just to run butterly smooth its buggy android !! so he is trying to remove flash. in this way he will also be independent from adobe.
Why wouldn't flash work? Is there a reason why it'll be incompatible with 4.1. Adobe just said it'll stop bringing new releases to mobile. The current one should work fine.
They said they were going to provide ONE update for ICS, but I have seen multiple updates since ICS was released... I think they will continue through the whole 4.X.X versions
Project Butter is making enough changes to my knowledge, that it could very truly break Flash quite easily. In such ways that we may actually have to choose: better surfing experience or flash experience.
Look for Flash in Play Store... You will see Adobe saying that "Flash Player will not be supported on any Android version above 4.0.X" So there goes 4.1....
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Why blame Google? Last I checked it wasn't Google that owned flash and last I read (just Google it) Adobe said THEY (not google) were moving away from the mobile market because it wasn't cost effective and took to much time. So go cry to Adobe. Not here... Unless you want to try and code a flash plugin yourself. ;-)
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It will not come to Chrome, as Chrome will be standard browser for JB and does not support flash. Maybe Samsung will keep the Stock browser who knows.
It is a weird one. I noticed that for instance the video on the BBC websites does not work in Android Chrome. This is despite them saying it is HTML5.
I'm assuming that is a user agent thing, if it thinks you are browsing the site from an iPhone/iPad it gives you HTML5, but it if detects Android it directs you to flash.
Anyone know if this is right, and if so how you get Chrome to look at the HTML5 versions of BBC embeded video?
Er, yes they do!
I'm watching the tennis on the BBC website
if google left flash and html 5 were not up equvialent standard to flash i m gonna pee on android's green robot !!and will move to iphone 5. atleast apple has excellent hardware with stable software too. and the battrey lasts long too. flash for me is a customer retaining tool to android.
Google spent some dollars for adobe flash or u will surely be in loss!
I find it weird how Chrome is now the only browser that actively supports Flash in Linux, yet it's only popular android browser that doesn't support. I'm hoping they'll add support for it.
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I find it weird how Chrome is now the only browser that actively supports Flash in Linux, yet it's only popular android browser that doesn't support. I'm hoping they'll add support for it.
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Anyone tried firefox on 4.1?
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Er, yes they do!
I'm watching the tennis on the BBC website
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Really? On Android Chrome? No videos *at all* on the BBC work for me in Android chrome just gives me a plugin message.
Maybe I have a fault then. Did you do anything to set the BBC to play videos in HTML5?
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Any1 tried Naked Browser yet on your SGPs yet? Its a really fast and very lightweight browser. Almost a Dolphin Browser replacement.
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Yeah, I just tried it. Very smooth and fast. Just needs a better ui.
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I like the UI. The dev said that he would rather have a fast, fully functional browser then making it look good. I uninstalled Dolphin and using this for now on. It rates a 95/100 on the Acid3 test which is really good. I forgot what Dolphin got but to score that high all for a fast and lightweight browser, im impressed.
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Yeah, I just tried it. Very smooth and fast. Just needs a better ui.
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Agreed, very ugly
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Agreed, very ugly
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Well, all what I can say is that it is a very lightweight browser that loads pages pretty fast. Just throwing that out there.
I'd stick with Dolphin since UI kinda matters.. And well.. Dolphin is the best!
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I'd stick with Dolphin since UI kinda matters.. And well.. Dolphin is the best!
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Depends for what..i found maxthon browser the best for GB but opera is still far the best in mobile rendering of pages (when you read something text is always filling the screen)
Like i use chrome on nexus 7 but text is always to small and if i zoom i want see all text and on opera i zoom and no matter how much i zoom text reformats for reading so i find opera best browser for reading.
And for speed AOSP browser is fastest (but only awailable for cm9 and cm10 and derivates) and this naked browser is also very fast.
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I always go back to Dolphin Mini. I've tried a dozen others and they don't quite match.
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Careful, Dolphin, Maxthon, Boat, and many other browsers out there spy on you, wasting battery power, bandwidth, and CPU in the process. I made Naked Browser in response to these privacy violations. You can check it out here in the Google Play Store.
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Careful, Dolphin, Maxthon, Boat, and many other browsers out there spy on you, wasting battery power, bandwidth, and CPU in the process. I made Naked Browser in response to these privacy violations. You can check it out here in the Google Play Store.
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You have done great work. The concept is well founded. It was fast browser, but the interface made my eyes hurt. Soften the look and add tabs on top and I will am sold. On the other hand, privacy can always be a good idea, but the tracking done is mostly to enhance the experience. This is why Google results are still most likely to be correct for the user. If you are not doing anything wrong while browsing, then what is the worry?
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You have done great work. The concept is well founded. It was fast browser, but the interface made my eyes hurt. Soften the look and add tabs on top and I will am sold. On the other hand, privacy can always be a good idea, but the tracking done is mostly to enhance the experience. This is why Google results are still most likely to be correct for the user. If you are not doing anything wrong while browsing, then what is the worry?
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Thank you very much.
If you can explain what exactly was hurting your eyes, I can fix it. Naked Browser has been out for less than 2 months and I am working on it daily. What do you mean by "soften the look"? Please provide mockup screenshots if possible.
Tabs on the bottom is on my list for the paid "pro" version.
I disagree that the tracking done by Dolphin, Boat, Ninesky, Miren, and most of the Android browsers out there is meant to enhance your experience. "Enhanced experience" is what these rats are telling you and certainly what we'd like to believe, but it's obviously not the truth. Read Dolphin's privacy policy. They don't care about their users. The reason they ask for the "Phone state & identity" privilege isn't for your enhanced experience. It's to tie the data that they collect to your real world identity. Read the thread that I linked previously. They're sending your data to China, and beyond. They're selling you out, all these browser makers.
Spying wastes your battery power, bandwidth, and CPU cycles. But if you don't care about all of that and you don't care about your own privacy...what's the point?
You mention Google collecting data. They do BUT they are a large, established, public company that has a strong incentive to treat your data properly. Also, a browser maker is in a unique position to know basically everything you do on line. Google, Facebook, etc. can't pull this off just by you visiting their sites.
This message is for everyone who uses spying browsers made by incompetent people. You don't have to use Naked Browser but you shouldn't be using all the other crap out there.
So I just got my nexus today and wanted to reserve judgment for a couple of days but couldn't help myself, mostly because I'm looking for answers. Out of the box I actually prefer the materials used for the nexus. The back has more grip to it but still manages to feel premium. The speaker grills are deceiving because sound only plays From the very top of them. The nexus is wider so it might just take some getting used to but for the time being it is a bit awkward to hold in landscape orientation. Watching movies that are intended to be in high def are actually sharper looking on the iPad than they are on the nexus. Both YouTube and Netflix movies. These are less complaints and more just differences I noticed
...That said my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own. I'm wondering if anyone else is in the same boat as me as far as the browser goes and what their solution was. I was going to root and flash cm10 but would like to stay in rooted so that I can use my time Warner Tv app. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate your help thanks.
Try a custom ROM / custom kernel combination. I'm currently on AOKP [PUB] / Trinity Ten and have nothing but smooth performance across all my apps, good battery life, etc. Also make sure you use a youtube app that can support HD. You might have better results with the above. YMMV
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Download Boat browser. It's fast and wastes less on screen space
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I also notice my WiFi is extremely slow compared to all my other devices connected to the same network
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So I just got my nexus today and wanted to reserve judgment for a couple of days but couldn't help myself, mostly because I'm looking for answers. Out of the box I actually prefer the materials used for the nexus. The back has more grip to it but still manages to feel premium. The speaker grills are deceiving because sound only plays From the very top of them. The nexus is wider so it might just take some getting used to but for the time being it is a bit awkward to hold in landscape orientation. Watching movies that are intended to be in high def are actually sharper looking on the iPad than they are on the nexus. Both YouTube and Netflix movies. These are less complaints and more just differences I noticed
...That said my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own. I'm wondering if anyone else is in the same boat as me as far as the browser goes and what their solution was. I was going to root and flash cm10 but would like to stay in rooted so that I can use my time Warner Tv app. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate your help thanks.
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Get the aosp browser on there. Its butter smooth. Also go to developer options and turn on force 2d rendering.
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blackhand1001 said:
Get the aosp browser on there. Its butter smooth. Also go to developer options and turn on force 2d rendering.
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Where do I get asop browser
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Where do I get asop browser
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Alot of custom roms have it pre-installed. Otherwise search for a thread here that will show you how to download and install it.
Cosign on aosp browser. Best browser to date imo.
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my real gripe is with the chrome browser because this is what I find myself doing with the tab most frequently. Safari and even chrome on the iPad were buttery experiences. Even chrome on my note 2 is fantastic but for whatever reason chrome on the nexus 10 gives me unbearable load times, and once its loaded scrolling up and down web pages is painfully choppy and basically has a load time of its' own
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Here's the thing with iPad browser compared to Android; Apple values UX above everything else, so as soon as you touch your finger to the screen, iOS devices stop EVERYTHING and handle the scrolling process exclusively making it nice and smooth. When using Safari, for example, if the page is half-loaded and you touch the screen and start scrolling, iOS stops the page from loading and will not load anything more until you release the screen. Sure, that gives wonderfully smooth scrolling, but it means it won't finish loading the page until you stop scrolling...
On Android, however, while Project Butter does raise the priority of the surfaceflinger and HWComposer, the pages still load when scrolling. On sections of the page that have already loaded it should be just as smooth, however if you scroll to a section that needs to be loaded, Android browsers will all load this section of the page while still scrolling, resulting in a small amount of jutteriness as the scrolling, rendering and loading processes fight for CPU priority. It's getting better as the OS slowly makes better use of multiple cores, but that's the basic jist of it.
This is all paraphrased from an Android development engineer as background explanation of Project Butter and iOS vs Android scrolling experience. (sorry if this is explaining what you already know, I figure the info could be useful to other people as well)
Anyway, as for Chrome vs other browsers, I personally HATE Chrome for Android (it messes up the rendering of lots of sites, only renders at quarter native resolution and loads mobile phone versions of sites by default), and so I use Dolphin Beta instead, which is incredibly smooth and fluid for my uses!
Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
You could try chrome beta too, its what I use and since then I haven't looked back.
jackie_jagger said:
You could try chrome beta too, its what I use and since then I haven't looked back.
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I'm happy with Chrome beta too.
thatg said:
Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
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Dat definitely sounds like a problem. What rom are you using? If you are using stock and having this kind of problems, maybe your N10 is a lemon :crying:
@thatg: if you keep the N10 and want to root, there is a modified version of TWC-TV that will work. I don't have a link handy, but there's a thread here where you can download it.
Later: found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604776
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Oh boy typical iPhone fan boi crying wah wah wah
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jay7264 said:
Oh boy typical iPhone fan boi crying wah wah wah
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Its people like you that give android fans a bad name.
thatg said:
Ok at this point I'm starting to think that the nexus 10 has an issue with wifi and connecting to some routers. After googling about wifi issues it returned way too many results to be a coincidence. My dads got an up touchpad that I put jellybean on and that thing is having absolutely no issues. This isn't an android issue this is definitely a nexus 10 issue. Every other device in the house connects flawlessly but the nexus could take a 30 seconds to google something and a minute to load theverge.com. I think I'll get it replaced. If the replacement has the same issue ill hang onto the ipad. Maybe get an up touchpad
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Disable Wifi power saver. My wife has an ipad 4 and she loves my Nexus 10. Every time I turn around she is using it. Wouldn't be a problem if I enjoyed using her Ipad 4 but I don't like it. I tell her she should have got one, but she says: " I don't want to mess with it, I just want to take it out of the box and use it." Whereas I like to play with settings, tweak, and flash different ROMS. I like to customize my experience. Doesn't sound like android is for you.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but Firefox will solve your problems perfectly. Its bloody fast and renders just as well as chrome. No need to root or anything, just grab from the play store and you're done. This is assuming you don't have a hardware defect. FYI, Chrome was unusually slow for me as well, but I haven't bothered to try again since using Firefox.
I would also suggest using something like the speedtest app while standing next to your router and making sure all other devices/computers are turned off - if that app is being slow under these conditions it may in fact be a hardware problem.
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WiFi is always a PIA but there is no issue specific to N10's, in fact I can get better throughput using it than any other I've ever owned...including my iPad 3.
Its important to note that WiFi is a protocol, not a specific product. Consequently there are many implementations, from many different parties. Not all implementations are compatable unfortunately.
Best advice I can give is to turn any 'speed boost' modes off, ditto using a wider frequency band. Turn any compatability modes available on. If all else fails, try a different router. If you're getting issues with all routers, you may have a fault with your device.
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WiFi is always a PIA but there is no issue specific to N10's, in fact I can get better throughput using it than any other I've ever owned...including my iPad 3. ...
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I totally agree with you. Eventhough I do not have an iPad to compare with the first surprise I had with my N10 was how much faster it was than my old Galaxy P1000, both using the same N only network/router. Web pages almost exploded onto the screen with the N10. My router is a ASUS RT-N16 using the latest Tomato-USB firmware, it is not even a dual-band router.