Got the phone on launch day and love it only gripe is the screen has scratched. Minor scuffs and 2 deep enough that I can feel with my fingernail. Haven't dropped and don't put it in pocket with keys, coins etc. I've been babying the device so I'm a little shocked there's anything being as how it's gorilla glass.. My previous smartphones didn't scratch at all so I'm wondering if it's common with this device or htc phones in general? Guess it's my fault for not getting a screen protector (even though I've never used them with galaxy nexus or droid x)
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Got the phone on launch day and love it only gripe is the screen has scratched. Minor scuffs and 2 deep enough that I can feel with my fingernail. Haven't dropped and don't put it in pocket with keys, coins etc. I've been babying the device so I'm a little shocked there's anything being as how it's gorilla glass.. My previous smartphones didn't scratch at all so I'm wondering if it's common with this device or htc phones in general? Guess it's my fault for not getting a screen protector (even though I've never used them with galaxy nexus or droid x)
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One grain of sand is mightier than any gorilla glass.
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One grain of sand is mightier than any gorilla glass.
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yeah understandable but i've been SUPER careful with it and its got multiple scuffs on it. My galaxy nexus before never scratched and I could care less about that phone and it was supposively not even gorilla glass.
I babied my rezound, but one day I went to the beach........ Sand, chicks in bikinis, and sun tan lotion ruined my screen
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typeriz said:
I babied my rezound, but one day I went to the beach........ Sand, chicks in bikinis, and sun tan lotion ruined my screen
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Haha sounds like a fair tradeoff
JoeDroid said:
yeah understandable but i've been SUPER careful with it and its got multiple scuffs on it. My galaxy nexus before never scratched and I could care less about that phone and it was supposively not even gorilla glass.
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The only way any glass can scratch is if it brushes up with something with a higher mohs rating than it does.
Gorilla Glass is rated at around 6.8 I think. So its going to have to take something that is harder than 6.8 to scratch it. Dirt will do it if sand is in it, other glass may do it, hardened steel will do it, sandpaper for sure, jewelry might do it, and so on.
There are very specific things that can hurt GG. While its tougher than non-tempered glass, its not invincible by any means. Dirty fingers could have sand (even if you don't notice it, and a swipe of your screen it will scratch. All over but the crying.
My wedding band is tungsten carbide and can scratch Gorilla Glass like it is butter (mohs rating of 9).
adrynalyne said:
The only way any glass can scratch is if it brushes up with something with a higher mohs rating than it does.
Gorilla Glass is rated at around 6.8 I think. So its going to have to take something that is harder than 6.8 to scratch it. Dirt will do it if sand is in it, other glass may do it, hardened steel will do it, sandpaper for sure, jewelry might do it, and so on.
There are very specific things that can hurt GG. While its tougher than non-tempered glass, its not invincible by any means. Dirty fingers could have sand (even if you don't notice it, and a swipe of your screen it will scratch. All over but the crying.
My wedding band is tungsten carbide and can scratch Gorilla Glass like it is butter (mohs rating of 9).
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Maybe I just got really unlucky
Hello, Ghost Armor? I'm headed your way....
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Hello, Ghost Armor? I'm headed your way....
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I just ordered a skinomi for it.
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Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
jje
Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
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I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
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Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Ok, i just got my first scratch, never had it with SGS but here it is, and i always put it alone in my pocket.
So much advertising for what?
You didn't use a screenguard?
So do you think gorilla glass is scratch proof or just harder to scratch.
Is it deep or just the coating on top?
Suggest getting a screen protector maybe. I have one tiny scratch but could have been avoided with protection.
I remember life before gorilla glass.
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I was using the phone for a few days after i got it without a screen protector. I knew it was gorilla glass and stuff, but something inside kept gnawing me about getting a screen protector.
Just buy a screen protector and have that mental peace.
Better safe than sorry
Gorrila baby skin
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
Yep, got a tiny scratch as well out of seemingly no where.. it's definitely more fragile than my partners iPhone 4 which gets yanked in and out of her handbag daily vs my careful nurturing
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Well,that sucks.
Still scratch free here without protector
On milestone and droid 2 global gorila glass I never had a scratch having each one about a year and with no screen protector at all...
Maybe the cover for not having so many finger prints can make gorilla glass less "gorila" on SGS2?
Cheers
buxz777 said:
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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Dammit, yesterday i went to the beach with the phone, sand may be the reason of the scratch
I already have a screen protector, but i didn't set it because there was no reason to me, now i got one
Yeah, I scratched mine too but I've kind of got used to it. It's a little annoying I guess.
Anyway, suppose it's a bit like shutting the door now the horse has bolted but might as well get a protector. Don't they change the feel of the screen though? I've always thought they might be kind of annoying.
As a user of both sgs and sgs2, I find the Gorilla glass on sgs2 to be far superior in every department
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You folks are aware that no one ever said gorilla glass is hard as a diamond, right?
In fact, no substantial claims about it's hardness were *ever* made. It's supposed to have a better tensile strength and be less breakable, not harder.
In fact, the treatment it gets plus the oleophobic coatings and whatnot might even make it more susceptible to scratching than regular glass.
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily. I made money repairing the hd2 because it couldn't take a bump.
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G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily.
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Shatter or scratch?
There IS a difference, you know.
Hardness and (tensile) strength aren't the same thing.
And they're usually inversely proportional.
Materials that have a high hardness (resistance to scratching) are usually VERY brittle.
Materials that have a high tensile strength (resistance to breaking) are usually VERY scratchable.
Well,everything is destroyable in therm of a bad usage,even this "mighty" glass.The real example is Titanic,the unsinkable ship in my a..
I also have very small scratches, there was nothing in my pocket when it happened!
My SGS was stronger, but the SGSII's screen is sweeter!
I decided to buy a brando screen protector, as far as i know they're washable
The sooner i receive my screen protector the better, im ultra careful not to have anything else in my pocket like keys or coins when then phone is there in case i do get a scratch,so far so good but after spending all that cahs on this phone it's important to get a screen protector.
This is one of the weak points with our phone, "hard"ware wise.
I also got a small scratch from putting it in my pocket without anything else. Compared I never got a protector for my old smart phone (competitor brand and os ) and only a few small scratches in some years, I was a bit disappointed.
Though, that scratch isn't that bad, and now that my protective foil arrived it can be neither seen nor felt.
But: Without the cheap foil the "feeling" was better
Still, I like my new phone
Hi guys, i have a question for those of you who own this awesome device since the intl version came out... what are your thoughts on the scratches resistance of the screen, and more generally the device itself?
I just got my NA version three days ago and i was wonderinf if it was worth putting a screen lrotector on it or the screen is scratches proof?
Thanks!
Sam
It will scratch..... Get a screen protector as soon as possible.
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I've had it a few days now, and i swear i have been consciously very careful with it, but i have a few scratches on my screen. only really noticeable when the screen is off, but still a pain in my ass.
i made sure nothing else was in my pockets and everything. i really don't know how they got there.
so if you're of the protection persuasion then yeah put one on imo.
Read the do i need scratch protector posts in accessories .
jje
Hmmm that sucks ... ok well I'll go buy one asap.. do you have any recommendation for the brand? I really would like one as unnoticable as possible.. I bought some cheap ones on ebay for my old touch pro2 and they are ugly as f**k :/
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I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
its hard to predict the future , as caution as one can be ,accidents do happen , dont regret till it happen
Certainly not scratchproof, got a scratch in 1day and i was carefull... get a screenprotector
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I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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I agree and I also have a Rock case and absolutely love it.
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
It's really sad, if you think about it. The GS3 has Gorilla Glass 2. If anything, it should be much harder to scratch.
That being said, my employer ordered a bunch for a launch event and all but one came back with multiple scratches on the screens. I get the distinct impression that even the iPhone's screen is more scratch resistant. Why are we going backward?
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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DD-Ripper said:
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
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I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
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This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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2 weeks naked. Not a mark on it.
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DD-Ripper said:
This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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you are incorrect
gorilla glass IS made to be scratch resistant and not drop resistant.
also gorilla glass 2 is not more fragile then gorilla glass 1, gorilla glass 2 is 20% thinner but same strength
personally they shouldnt have made it 20% thinner instead same thickness and 20% stronger
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
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Bull****
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NoOneCanHelpMe said:
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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not true I was very careful I have scratches! if you look at it you will say its not but if you look with screen off in the light you will see them
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My cruzerlite cases put a couple light scratches on my marble white gs3 after a day or two. Probably dust that was trapped inside, i can always buy a new backplate.
Honestly, I'm of the opinion (<--note that keyword) that anyone with scratches on this device is doing something wrong. I've had the phone just over two weeks. I don't have a screen protector, or even a case for it. It's just like it was when I got it out of the box (except that I actually put the battery in it and removed all the sticky transparent film from it). I constantly have this in my pocket with nothing besides the occasional spare change to keep it company. No scratches. At all.
Anyone know if the s pen ultimately scratches the screen over time?
I doubt it. It's plastic vs gorilla glass 3. I used my spen everyday for a year on my note 2 and sold it without a mark on it
Impossible
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Anyone know if the s pen ultimately scratches the screen over time?
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Worn out nib. Change it.
Gorilla glass is harder than most metals, and most metals are harder than the plastic in the spen. It'll never scratch the glass.
The s-pen itself may not scratch the screen, but something on it or on the screen would certainly scratch the glass!
I did it while playing Glow Hockey... So beware
Put a tempered glass - 100 times better than this "Gorilla Glass" ...
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The s-pen itself may not scratch the screen, but something on it or on the screen would certainly scratch the glass!
I did it while playing Glow Hockey... So beware
Put a tempered glass - 100 times better than this "Gorilla Glass" ...
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Exactly. One tiny grain of sand, game over.
I have a protector on my screen and the phones in an otterbox 5 hat has a built in sp lol
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Just for peace of mind I would get one.
I just bought one from here for about a buck each after discount: http://dealnews.com/Xtreme-Guard-coupons-85-off-sitewide-extra-discount-free-shipping/932871.html
I have the exact same sheet on my htc vivid for 2 years and still look like new.
Oh god better find a screen protector fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=571pu66vEBc
That's just really sad...
It makes sense because it's more shatter resistant but more soft. Screen protector it is...
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I just ordered some screen protectors. I planned on going naked but screw that! I'm very disappointed to see how easily it scratches. I swore I read something that GG said the scratch resistance was the same as GG 4. REALLY messed up!
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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Lol what a dumb comment
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Pointro said:
What was wrong with those tests? He even made a 2nd video to detail the structural flaws in the phone.
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Nexus 6P is nowhere near as flimsy as he made it appear - a lot of people were very doubtful.
Also, with this one, how was the IMEI sticker removed already yet all the plastic was still on the phone? You even saw the residue where the sticker was!
(and no, don't use the "he put all the plastic back on the phone" excuse. No way would you get it back on that perfect).
Yeah, I'm skeptical, but that's my own opinion. I also don't put a lot of faith into drop tests, as each case is different. I've also been one to take very good care of my phones, and don't generally use screen protectors. No real scratches either!
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Lol what a dumb comment
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Oh boo hoo - someone doesn't agree with your opinion. Not like I give a damn.
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Devhux said:
Ever since I saw the Nexus 6P bend test from the same person, I've been very hesitant to trust him.
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And the 6P did not bend? My bent after some weeks of normal use
Looks like i will have to use a full body skin.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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The biggest cause of scratches is not keys or scissors or razor blades.
It's the simple elements of our earth that do the damage, namely Sand and Grit.
It only takes a particle of sand or grit to come into contact with the screen, add the element of friction and that causes the vast majority of all scratches.
No matter how this is spun, poorer scratch resistance is not good especially considering this is a device designed to have constant friction on its surface with the stylus.
Zolares said:
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
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A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
BarryH_GEG said:
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Yeah, I believe it was the first time that they have released an official screen protector. So they already know.
Zolares said:
Honestly, I'm pretty sure Samsung did this on purpose.
The conclusion seems to be:
Gorilla Glass 4 - More scratch resistant, less shatter resistant
Gorilla Glass 5 - More shatter resistant, less scratch resistant
This makes me feel that Samsung chose Gorilla Glass on purpose due to their intentions of reintroducing the Edge screen to the Note series.
I'm sure everyone has seen the Tempered Glass Screen Protectors made for Edge screens and the truth is... they're not effective at all as compared to their flat counterparts.
I'm not sure about others, but regular film screen protectors are already highly effective in blocking scratches and they're cheap to replace.
On the other hand, the main reason to get a glass screen protector is to protect against shattering which film protectors aren't effective against.
Which makes me think...
The Note7 has an edge screen which makes it very difficult to have a glass screen protector as protection, yet regular film protectors are still possible.
So, the switch to the more shatter resistant gorilla glass 5 is to make up for the inability to use tempered glass screen protectors and gives us the opportunity to use film screen protectors as a scratch resistance alternative.
Well, that's my theory at least. Might be complete BS, but it doesn't seem that bad to me.
At least, for a device that can't use tempered glass screen protectors, I would want the glass to be more shatter resistant rather than scratch resistant since film does a good job at guarding against scratches.
If a good tempered glass screen protector was available, then I would probably still want Gorilla Glass 5 since glass screen protectors is also extremely effective against scratches.
But if I was to use my phone naked... I'm honestly not sure which I'll want more. Let's hope Gorilla Glass 6 is both scratch and shatter resistant.
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Flexibility (shatter resistance) and hardness (scratch resistance) are mutually exclusive. Maybe some kind of formulation of glass or a different material at some point will help, but honestly I don't think a solution to both of these issues at the same time will come any time soon.
I have never shattered a phone screen and I use minimal cases to protect against scratching. I have had a bad drop or two over the years, but the phone has always survived. I'd take scratch resistance any day of the week.
Film protectors suck ass. They offer no oleophobic properties, gunk up, and feel like **** compared to glass. I will never use of these. I even dislike glass protectors, because if you get a single spec of dirt under them during application or misalign it, might as well throw it in the trash if you have OCD because you're never going to get over it. Plus you add another layer between you and the pixels which is never good for image quality sake. Samsung did a great job with this display and the glass in front of it (e.g. lowest reflectance ever). Putting some cheap ass protector over it, even glass, will be detrimental. Also, good luck finding a decent glass protector that works with the curves. Samsung is probably going to be the absolute best option, so I would skip everything else and just buy that and pray you get the install perfect because knowing Samsung it won't be cheap.
BarryH_GEG said:
A little tin foil hat, isn't it? GG5 is Corning's latest and greatest and by next year it'll be on all flagships and pseudo-flagships. Some scratch resistance was traded for some shatter resistance. Good or bad that's what we've got. Samsung's selling an official screen protector which might be telling us something. I ordered two sets of two.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/accessories/
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Where did you order them from, Samsung's own site? I did a search but can't get to an actual product page for it.
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mk89pwnz said:
Naked... this is just BS, in real life how can u scratch it if you use a case? and don't put it with your keys...
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EXACTLY. If you shove this in your front pocket with keys and the rest or in a purse with a bunch of crap then I don't feel sorry. I've never scratched a screen, shattered a screen or any of the crap I see. Maybe I'm too AR to let this happen. IDK.
I really hate screen protectors! Although I haven't tried tempered type. To me they degrade viewing . Really irks me that you pay a premium to get a great screen that easily scratches and takes away from the experience .
I'm still gonna try it out, but may be my last samsung if that becomes the new norm.
Having owned the Note 1, Note 2, Galaxy S4 (terrible), I moved to Nexus/Apple and did not want to buy Samsung ever again. I went against myself and pre-ordered the Note 7 thinking maybe this would be a perfect phone for an old man. This video made me cancel the pre-order, I will wait for the next Nexus or iPhone.