So far I'm liking my HOX+ (AT&T), but want to unlock/root to get the full experience, backup with Titanium, delve into Tasker and BatteryXL, etc. However, I'm a relative newbie at this and need some help.
I understand you have to unlock the bootloader first, but so far the only way I've seen is through HTC Dev. Is that correct? And will that void my warranty? Or is it reversible in case I need to bring the phone back in for maintenance?
Or, will it not matter, because if I bring it in the AT&T Store staff won't bother to check? I did swap out my phone for a non-defective one on Tuesday and the dude didn't even turn it on or glance at it, just grabbed me a new one with a new SIM, so this may not matter. But before I go on I just wanted some reassurance that I can reverse this if need be.
Thanks in advance!
Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
Thanks!
I'll look into rooting if I can figure out how! Anyone know how to do this on Mac?
911jason said:
Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
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Exactly how you get around it! To be honest a few times i returned phones with only flashing the factory rom, left the phone unlocked and all, lol! I doubt the companies really look into it to see if you messed with it. Haven't heard 1 person returned a phone and getting denied because of root, unlocked bootloader, etc. I could be wrong but never heard of it myself...
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Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
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Rooting and unlocking alone only voids your warranty if you have a custom rom on your phone that caused the issue you had that broke it. I got that straight from a store managers mouth.
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my rezound is unlocke and rooted. my ear piece speaker make really bad cracking noise. if i unroot the phone, can i have warranty replacement? or will there be a problem?
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No one has an answer to this. You will not know you have a problem until months and months. If months from now you get a charge for a unit, because you voided the warranty and then sent it in for warranty exchange, only then will you know.
There just simply hasn't been enough time since HTC released the unlock, people unlocked (I still have NOT for this very reason), and then people started trying to turn in unlocked phones to Verizon.
if u can use asurion u would be fine... they take them back no matter if they are unlocked or not
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if u have no other choice i say re-lock and try it
even when you re lock it, it says that it is relocked, thus showing that it was once rooted, so it helps but it isn't 100%, I would just put the stock RUU on the phone, so stock ROM, recovery, and then re-lock bootloader as suggested and give it a try.
I think you will be ok, but dont take my word.
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even when you re lock it, it says that it is relocked, thus showing that it was once rooted, so it helps but it isn't 100%, I would just put the stock RUU on the phone, so stock ROM, recovery, and then re-lock bootloader as suggested and give it a try.
I think you will be ok, but dont take my word.
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+1 this should work unless they really check for it and know to lock for it saying unlocked
Call tech support and profit. I've gotten two replacements which are worse than the original... But I got them none the less! Both are going back to Verizon lololol.
I have seen many people say unlocking voids the warranty, but they are all lying. On HTC DEV it says unlocking MAY void you warranty. I think if the device is re-locked and has the stock ROM installed there shouldn't be any issues.
FWIW, and don't take it as 100%, I know a guy in the warranty department that told me as long as it can be flashed to stock when they hook it up and it works, they don't care about root or unlocking. People have even received phones already unlocked.
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FWIW, and don't take it as 100%, I know a guy in the warranty department that told me as long as it can be flashed to stock when they hook it up and it works, they don't care about root or unlocking. People have even received phones already unlocked.
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I'd bet that's it. At least for a physical defect. Unless HTC decides to go evil. But I doubt it.
So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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Most people who send their phones in to HTC for warranty replacement of hardware don't have any issues. They usually fix the hardware and send it back with no questions asked. If it is software related you may run into issues. Now there is a chance they will not replace your hardware and void your warranty for unlocked bootloader but from what I have read from users that have done this with previous devices they normally replace and ship.
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So I was recently thinking about how much I wanted to root my phone, but was afraid of losing my warranty. Which got me thinking about the fact that HTC seems to offer a warranty for the One. Would this mean I would be able to ship my phone for a replacement to HTC if something went wrong and they wouldn't care if I unlocked the bootloader? Anybody have any experience in this department?
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ROOTING DOES NOT VOID WARRANTY
If you BRICK your device due to something you installed, HTC will probably not cover it, if your screen goes bad, or wifi quits working, or anything else NOT caused by dropping it or getting it wet, AT&T or HTC will cover you.
AT&T's warranty department is the reason I buy phones from them rather than a manufacturer directly.
Something goes wrong, I call At&T, they ship me a new device and a mailing label to send them back my broken one. Takes a couple of days. HTC fixes your device and it can take a couple of weeks.
again ROOTING a phone is NOT a valid reason to deny a warranty claim.
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ROOTING DOES NOT VOID WARRANTY
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again ROOTING a phone is NOT a valid reason to deny a warranty claim.
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Rooting was never mentioned here. Unlocking your bootloader is different, and yes, it could allow them to deny you the warranty claim.
In the end, just because they can doesn't imply that they will deny you.
Almost all instances I've heard of including warranty replacement ended happily for the user. I would argue that even though HTC's replacement process takes a longer time, they're more likely to replace the phone without question.
AT&T = Faster replacements
HTC = Higher success rate if you have really hacked up the device
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Rooting was never mentioned here. Unlocking your bootloader is different, and yes, it could allow them to deny you the warranty claim.
In the end, just because they can doesn't imply that they will deny you.
Almost all instances I've heard of including warranty replacement ended happily for the user. I would argue that even though HTC's replacement process takes a longer time, they're more likely to replace the phone without question.
AT&T = Faster replacements
HTC = Higher success rate if you have really hacked up the device
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The OP mentioned rooting in his first sentence.
I wanted it out there that rooting in itself doesn't void a warranty.
Because we can root by unlocking our bootloaders doesn't mean that an exploit won't be found that roots without doing so.
We've said the same thing now we're just arguing semantics.
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The OP mentioned rooting in his first sentence.
I wanted it out there that rooting in itself doesn't void a warranty.
Because we can root by unlocking our bootloaders doesn't mean that an exploit won't be found that roots without doing so.
We've said the same thing now we're just arguing semantics.
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Doh, so true. Completely missed that in the first sentence too, thanks for pointing it out. :highfive:
Thanks a lot for clearing all that up. I apologize for the initial confusion with my first sentence, as you guys pointed out, it's the bootloader unlock that actually voids the warranty. My fears have been quelled and I'm very excited to take full control of this notification light.
I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
Unlocking the bootloader does not necessarily void your warranty in the U.S. But it will probably make your claim a little more difficult. HTC has, in the past, honored warranty when the fault was clearly not the users fault. For example, if your power button gets stuck in the down position and can't be raised. At this time, there is no way to get the phone to show LOCKED again instead of RELOCKED. Now if HTC gets your phone and determines the issue was caused by the user, they will still replace it but charge you for the parts. You will probably have more luck working with AT&T reps in your warranty claim because they aren't trained on how to tell if your phone is unlocked/rooted as long as you aren't obvious about it.
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I searched and couldn't find a clear answer to my question:
I bought an AT&T HTC One off CL and want to flash the international ROM, however, I am afraid of voiding my warranty...
1) is there any way to restore htc one back to its "locked" state after unlocking, from what I understand it is only possible to change it to "relocked"
2) Does the "relocked" status imply voided warranty? has anyone dealt with AT&T in the past?
I have seen my share of smartphones failing, including my international S3 failing into its 14th month so would really like to keep the warranty intact
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AHEM: /Taps mic....
Simply unlocking your bootloader isn't an automatic voiding of a warranty.
I am doing a warranty return myself and the terms I agreed to were the phone must not be physically damaged, or water damaged.
Also HTC THEMSELVES will repair a phone UNDER WARRANTY with a HARDWARE DEFECT despite having an unlocked bootloader.
I have never in my several years of dealing with AT&T had a warranty refused because I rooted my phone.
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Until we get S-off (which is coming soon) the bootloader cannot be made to say "LOCKED" once it has been unlocked.
Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
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Sorry for the double post, but thought of one more thing. I had to get my phone warranty swapped for dead pixels. The AT&T reps I dealt with in person tried to convince me that my device wasn't covered because, like you, I bought the phone from an individual. They said warranty are not tranferrable and only belong to the person who bought the phone. This is not true. Warranty is on the device and provided by HTC, not AT&T. They are simply acting as an intermediary to facilitate the exchange. I had a whole lot less trouble dealing with the phone support folks in getting it swapped.
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Thanks for that piece of information, MOST HELPFUL!
Any idea if there will be a different unlock tool for s-off our if I can unlock and just wait for s-off?
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If past exploits are any indication you're going to need root to gain s-off so go ahead and unlock.
Does anyone know if tmobile will warranty replace a unlocked device?
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handman29 said:
Does anyone know if tmobile will warranty replace a unlocked device?
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It appears to vary based on the store and who you happen to interface with.
The safest way is to do an S-Off, remove the tampered notice, modify the splash screen, and then lock it. But that is a lot of steps, some of them a bit risky if done wrong.
Unlocked as in carrier? If you bought it from tmo, then it should still be covered unless you did something else to void the warranty.If you mean bootloader, then that voids the warranty so you're probably gonna get hit with a fee, maybe on the back end.
FWIW, I had no trouble getting my last One replaced for a stuck pixel despite bootloader unlock. I took it to a store and had the rep there initiate the exchange, though I still had to receive the replacement in the mail since I bought it online. Before sending it in I just nandroided back to stock and flashed stock recovery and that was it. I was worried for a while that they would hit me with some extra fee because of my unlocked bootloader, but it's been over a month and nothing.
I'm guessing since I had a super-obvious hardware problem (stuck pixel) nobody bothered to do a thorough check., but getting S-OFF and fixing everything to look locked is probably safer.
I'm reading through the threads and forums and maybe I'm just missing it... Is there a way to get S-Off/Unocked on the Tmobile One besides htcdev.com? My One is a warranty replacement, and also I just now received it back from having the camera repaired, so I really don't want to officially unlock it via htcdev for warranty purposes. On Verizon we had Rumrunner just before I switch to T-Mobile. Is there something similar? I see rumrunner for the int'l variant, but can't find if it'll work on T-Mobile. Again I apologize if it's right in front of my face or if I'm looking in the wrong places, but I've been looking for about an hour with no luck.
TIA!
Forgot to mention I'm also on stock 4.3, 3.24.531.3
Ok correct me if I'm wrong - I've read (haven't tried yet) the int'l rumrunner will get S-Off, but you have to be rooted first - i.e. have to unlock via htcdev anyway.
You are correct the current T-Mobile build IS supported by rumrunner, and yes, you must be HTC dev unlocked first. Contrary to popular belief, however, this does not completely void your warranty with HTC.
Hardware issues (like your camera for example) will usually still be covered by HTC, but you can go directly through T-Mobile. Going through warranty with T-Mobile is very easy. When you go through them and the only downside is the replacement will be a refurbished phone, but sometimes they'll even send you the refurb before you send back the defective one. T-Mobile is really great with warranty replacement.
They honor a one-year device warranty, all you would need to do is set your bootloader back to "locked" (which you can do once you've gained soff) and place a warranty request with T-mobile directly.
Thank you - that's exactly what I needed to know. And I forgot you can set it back to locked with S-Off - good to know!