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Why is it that the EVO and EVO 3D just @#$%^&% love to turn themselves on and unlock themselves in my pockets? Isn't the proximity sensor supposed to let the OS know the thing is in my damned pocket?
For some reason it seems to like my Levi's more than any other pockets. When I wear dress slacks it's not quite too quick to wake and play.
I'm becoming severely tired of being reminded that I didn't put the phone in my pocket screen-side out by the fact that my leg is about 150-degrees, only to pull the phone out of my pocket and find that I'm about 40 over par in a game of golf.
What the hell?!?!?!?
Sounds like a defect.... Try makei.g sure the power button is face up? If u have volume buttons set to wake ur screen unset them?
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A defect that both of my EVO 4Gs and my EVO 3D have?
Basically if anything presses the power button or wakes the screen when it's facing my leg, the simple fact that there's a capacitive transfer between my leg and the screen through a few layers of cloth can cause it to slide unlocked. (try unlocking it with your finger through your shirt, for example, it works just fine.)
If I put more security on the lock, it stays locked, but that's beside the point. The phone/OS should KNOW it's in a pocket and disallow that action altogether.
Well it doesn't... Touch screens work on heat, and the proximity sensor only seems to shut the screen off in q phone call.
I have never really had this problem(it happens once in a blue) that's y I thought it may be defective, it sounds like your best bet is the lock, that said I always have my phone in a otter box, dunno if it helps...
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Just put a passcode on it, it's not too much of a problem then. Of course, you'd lose a little battery life but not so much as when you find out you're half way through Tiger Woods' new game.
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Well it doesn't... Touch screens work on heat, and the proximity sensor only seems to shut the screen off in q phone call.
I have never really had this problem(it happens once in a blue) that's y I thought it may be defective, it sounds like your best bet is the lock, that said I always have my phone in a otter box, dunno if it helps...
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Touch screens to not work on heat. A capacitive screen only needs a conductive surface to work. Just an FYI.
Actually its both heat is for fine tuneing and
Conductivity is big movement, try useing a nickel it will follow the motion well but be choppy now heat said nickel n chop is gone
Ps pennys don't work at all what's up with that
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Install leedroid tweaks, set you screen button to something like the camera button, never complain again.
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Then y dosent a penny??? It is heat fyi
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Read up on Capacitive touch screens and then come back.
paallday said:
Actually its both heat is for fine tuneing and
Conductivity is big movement, try useing a nickel it will follow the motion well but be choppy now heat said nickel n chop is gone
Ps pennys don't work at all what's up with that
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Really??? I would love to see any kind of technical sheet showing that a capacitive screen uses heat in any way shape or form to do anything. If I am wrong, I will not edit my post to change what I said (like you did) but will post a public apology to you stating that I was wrong.
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Also, I have the same issue that the OP has, once in a while, I will take my phone out of my front pocket of my khakis and I will have 5 apps open and a call open to my wife or something of that nature. I have learned to face the screen out instead of in which seems to help (if I remember to actually do it).
I edited it because I first tried it with a penny and it did not work at all then I tried it with a quarter and it worked and was very choppy like it was wasnt touching it properly then I heated the quarter and it worked fine. I don't no y this did this but it did...
I was wrong at first, because o thought it was all heat, and I did say that, but I was also posting what I had figured out, that's all.
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I edited it because I first tried it with a penny and it did not work at all then I tried it with a quarter and it worked and was very choppy like it was wasnt touching it properly then I heated the quarter and it worked fine. I don't no y this did this but it did...
I was wrong at first, because o thought it was all heat, and I did say that, but I was also posting what I had figured out, that's all.
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No biggie...I think I might try the quarter trick to see if maybe a heated quarter has better conductive properties as an experiment becuase I am really bored.
Also an heat senseing touch screen does exist and here is the spec sheet (although deffinatly an inferior technology I new I had seen it somewhere...)
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_e900-1508.php
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Also an heat senseing touch screen does exist and here is the spec sheet (although deffinatly an inferior technology I new I had seen it somewhere...)
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_e900-1508.php
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Ummmmmmm.... Not even a touch screen.
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I prefer to keep mine on a holster. Alot of folks put there phone in there back pocket and forget and sit down on it and there ass bone smashs the glass lol.
Anyway's pocket carry shouldn't be turning ur phone on lmao.
I would try another rom or kernel if no luck and you try a stock kernel and rom and still have issues take the sucker back to sprint.
Just put a otterbox commuter case on it. Its a 2 part case soft rubber skin and a hardshell over it. You gotta put a little more effort in pressing the buttons, it never comes on in my pocket, I even got the volume buttons set to wake.
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Why is it that the EVO and EVO 3D just @#$%^&% love to turn themselves on and unlock themselves in my pockets? Isn't the proximity sensor supposed to let the OS know the thing is in my damned pocket?
For some reason it seems to like my Levi's more than any other pockets. When I wear dress slacks it's not quite too quick to wake and play.
I'm becoming severely tired of being reminded that I didn't put the phone in my pocket screen-side out by the fact that my leg is about 150-degrees, only to pull the phone out of my pocket and find that I'm about 40 over par in a game of golf.
What the hell?!?!?!?
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+1 NICE!! EXACT SAME THING happens to me! If I put the lock pattern on it, it stays locked but then the emergency calling gets activated! LOL!
I've never had this happen.. and I purposefully make sure to face the screen of my phone towards my leg, as I managed to break a screen with it facing out and something poked into it. had it been facing my leg it would've been fine.
Did u read????? cuz it deffinatly has a heat senseing touch pad such is the exact thingy wanted to c....
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Did u read????? cuz it deffinatly has a heat senseing touch pad such is the exact thingy wanted to c....
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Yeah, I am going to just stop arguing with you as you are a little out of your league on this one and it is way off topic from the OP. If you want to continue our debate on this, I am more than willing if you create a new thread.
I have tried to test the alarm that sounds when you walk away from the s pen and it is not attached to the phone. But I have to walk really far away and even then it takes a long time to sound. Is there some sort of setting I am missing to speed this up? The way it works now makes it a pretty useless feature as the pen could be long gone before my phone alerted me.
I think it senses it by walking so if you hold it in your hands and walk away that might be the issue. Did you try it in your pocket? When I tested it I got an alarm as soon as I stood up.
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No, I literally left it on my desk and walked away. Hmmm....
Just tried it again and it took about 10 feet.
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tried it yesterday and walked about 50 feet away and nothing happened. I will need to try it again today.
im not sure what actually triggers it. i jogged down my street about 100 yards and nothing. on the (winded) walk back it went off about 10 yards before i got back to my place.
Glad to hear it is not just me. I was getting worried about the case I had it in which had a magnetic closure. I had no idea that that could be a problem until I found a perfectly round s pen dead spot right where the magnet was. I did some quick research learned that magnetic cases are bad and took it out of the case right away. The dead spot works just fine now but I was beginning to wonder if I had created some other residual damage.
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tried it yesterday and walked about 50 feet away and nothing happened. I will need to try it again today.
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The pen alert does not work off of distance. It works off of the screen being turned off and the shaking like Its in your pocket. You can walk with your pen in one hand and phone in the other with screen off and shake and it will go off
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The pen alert does not work off of distance. It works off of the screen being turned off and the shaking like Its in your pocket. You can walk with your own in one hand and phone in the other with screen off and shake and it will go off
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Anyone who tests this should totaaaally video it for insane laughter afterwards (I tested it and it works).
Wow
A huge big thanks to Android_Fr3ak. I was wondering what it was that triggered the alarm. Now we all know.
Hahaha my wife just looked at me like i am retarded as I set the spen down and proceeded to shake the hell of the phone but it did work.
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A huge big thanks to Android_Fr3ak. I was wondering what it was that triggered the alarm. Now we all know.
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Not a problem. I edited the post because I saw auto correct put own instead of pen. It is fixed now.
Does anyone else get a weird halo if they push on their screen or on the back of the phone too hard? I can actually launch widget placement by pressing on the back left side of the phone. T
I would take it in to get a replacement. I had this problem with a DX and I couldn't figure out what it was. It turns out the battery was damaged and it swelled up and was putting pressure on the screen. Since you can't just swap out the batteries in these I would take it in.
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I just want to bump this up, as i feel this is a serious problem for the DNA... i too had this thing happen with my 3 week old DNA.
If you press half way down the screen and below you can see a rainbow discoloration happening on either left or right side of the screen(similar to when pressing the old school calculators display). I checked a coworkers DNA and his is doing it too. I then called VZ yesterday morning and i was 2 days out of my 14 day period but they did the exception of switching it for a new one. I got the new one at the store i bought it from and the new one is doing it too...
To do this test press about 3/4 of the way down on the display, bring up this page in your phone so you can see the discoloration.
The first 3 week old phone had done it for so long that it left a black shadowy print on my screen (similar to a burnt display) I will be calling VZ back this morning to see what they can do, since from what i was told by tier 2 is that they have no record of this problem being reported.
First DNA came with the old Software, and the new DNA has the latest installed.
You must be pressing pretty Damn hard because mine doesn't do that when I use it.
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It's not an issue, any screen will do this, it's just how screens work. There's absolutely no reason to be pressing hard enough for this to be an issue.
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Just got mine 3 days ago and just tried this on whole screen and no where can I get this to happen and I'm applying a lot of pressure. It is in a otterbox defender case though so maybe it's keeping it from flexing but I doubt it.
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Jaggar345 said:
You must be pressing pretty Damn hard because mine doesn't do that when I use it.
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Yea he has to be squeezing hard. I had to apply over 5 lbs of pressure(give or take ofc) to get the liquid crystal to move. Made my feet sweat a lil. This guys a nut.
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this is a common problem. ever hear of the blue haze and dots? it was prevalent with anyone who uses the holster shell.... it squeezed too hard on the sides and created a blue haze of screen discoloration. my first dna had it and I didn't even use the holster shell. I think it was from keeping it on my pockets when I sat down.. I never did screen in, and with the rounded back, it was pushing pressure on the edges which causes this... doing that overtime messed the screen up. just Google blue haze dna or something and you'll see tons of threads with pics. it really sucked. there's a soft spot on the back of every dna, it was just a design flaw. wonder if the one has it?
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I dropped my Note 2 right on the face and broke the glass. The top right corner looks like a spider web with a few cracks stretching to the bottom. The display still works though . I plan to get a new glass and replace it myself. I've found quite a bit of info on how to do it.
My only question is this. When I last made a call with it the screen wouldn't come back on when I pulled it away from my face. I'm hoping it's just because of the cracks that run right across the 2 sensors at the top. Do you think it could be that or do you think maybe one of the sensors broke when it fell.
I sure don't want to have to replace the whole lcd unit. That's about $250 while the glass is about $20.
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Hey yu... ...dirt has gotten in a few peoples proximity sensors making them not work...most people use an air compressor to clear it...broken glass.. probly a chard
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lukegman said:
Hey yu... ...dirt has gotten in a few peoples proximity sensors making them not work...most people use an air compressor to clear it...broken glass.. probly a chard
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Hey thanks Luke. It's good to see you again. I'm actually using my Charge again for calls and texts. I find I've gotten really spoiled by my Note. The old phone feels clunky and slow.
Thanks for the good info. I'll definitely look for that when I take the busted screen off. It'll take a few days to get the parts. Wish me luck. I think I'm gonna need it. It looks like a hard job.
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Another question. I'd like to be able to make the display stay on when I'm holding it up to my ear. Does anyone know a way to do that? I'd really like to use my Note even though the screen is broken. I don't like my Charge any more because it's too small.
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stueycaster said:
Another question. I'd like to be able to make the display stay on when I'm holding it up to my ear. Does anyone know a way to do that? I'd really like to use my Note even though the screen is broken. I don't like my Charge any more because it's too small.
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Open the phone to the dialer. Hit the menu touch button then call settings. Un check auto off during call. The setting even says turn off proximity sensor.
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Open the phone to the dialer. Hit the menu touch button then call settings. Un check auto off during call. The setting even says turn off proximity sensor.
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Thanks. I can't believe I never noticed that. Now I can use it til I can fix the screen. Just waiting for parts.
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small crack with resolution prob.
I have a small crack in upper right of screen & now my sharp color is gone. It is now very dull almost like I used a photo app & added an overlay to it. Need some advice
Well I got my parts and got the tools I needed to fix my screen. The problem was I got the wrong type plastic razor blades. I got scraper blades instead. I tried it anyway and ended ripping my LCD screen. Now it's costed an extra $ 200+ for a LCD Digitizer assembly. Hopefully the next day delivery will still work even though yesterday was a holiday and the post offices were closed.
Anyway, what I'm leading up to is don't try this if everything isn't kosher. It's a tricky job.
Update: I found out they won't even ship it til Monday. I guess I don't get it back this weekend. I really don't like my old Charge after using my Note all these months.
It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
Seems to work pretty well for me, i wouldn't say 100% but most times i pick up the phone, or take it out of my pocket.. it lights up
Laying down flat, picking up the device shows info.
Laying down flat, a little twist shows info.
Picking it up seems more reliable, but the nudge left or right when flat needs to be a decent "nudge". Otherwise it would be switching on constantly, which would be a waste.
And waking when touching any part of the screen when adisplay is showing is normal behavior.
Maybe when development moves ahead we'll have more control over it's behavior. I can see devs having fun with this feature.
+1 for the OP. I've been using the phone about a full day now and I've seen the active display like maybe 3 times, never when it really made any sense. Bummer.
Owned my phone less than 24hrs, installed a screen protector before using the phone. Ambient display want really working. I took the glass screen protector off, ambient display has come back. I'm wondering if the sensor is that sensitive.
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It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
Just turned it on to test. Seems to light up when its supposed to. Turned it back off because I use android wear and don't need it.
My switching from Active Display (Moto X 2013) to Ambient Display (Nexus 6) was tough, but I got used to it. My 6p seems to not work as well or the same as my N6 did.
In the morning if I wake up before my alarm I would grab my N6 to activate the Ambient Display and see the clock, as well as my notifications (I get the weather in the morning) to see if there was anything urgent (text from a coworker, etc).
With my 6p when I pick it up, nothing seems to happen, or at least not as quickly as it did with my N6. N6 would show it on almost any movement, but the 6p requires it to be fully picked up all the way and almost vertical before it shows anything. Not sure if this is gyro or software related. If I pick it up from flat and rotate 90 degrees right (like it would be if it was sitting next to my bed), effectively making it vertical in landscape mode) nothing happens. If I hold it vertical in portrait, it shows me.
Just something to get used to, I guess.
Active display is rubbish on the 6P lol. That's coming from a user BTW, its just not reliable.
I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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This is one thing that is reliable for me! Lol. When a notification comes through, it will activate once, then turn off, then activate again shortly after. I'm not sure if it's mean to do this or not, but at least it's reliable.
I should make it clear though that in my short time with the device, it is a definite top quality phone. The Active Display just seems to be, for me at least, a noticeable deviation from the very high bar set by the rest of the device. I did read other reviewers with issues, but then, how much faith can you put in a 48 hour review. I've had mine for almost a week and still feel like I'm just getting to know it.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
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True-ish. It is indeed possible to have a software solution that ignores certain touch events even though the hardware layer will consistently recognise touch events as long as the touch layer is active. If the Active Display becomes just another UI, then the notification icons/regions become touch targets and the rest of the screen can be written in software to not be touch targets and thus not respond to touch inputs.
I'm not sure what this method would look like in practice. So for example, when the Active Display has been activated, would there be a way to fully activate the screen by a touch method without touching a notification? Maybe a special region at the bottom of the screen? No idea. Just thinking out loud.
Coming from Active Display on the Droid Maxx, Ambient Display is very disappointing and actually leads to my emergency dialer engaging sometimes when the phone is in the pocket of looser pants. But it doesn't display when I would like it to, with just a nudge, like the Motorola implementation.
I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
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I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
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I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
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Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
..... i cant do it
My active display does nothing. Doesn't activate anything even shaking the phone.
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Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
..... i cant do it
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The Moto X (2014 and after) does it as it has other sensors on the front, the 6P doesn't. However, the Moto X (2013) did it with Kitkat as it used the proximity sensor, which was less reliable but still effective, but this was removed in Lollipop. To be fair, ambient display doesn't work nearly as well as Moto's active display. I bet a dev could activate it via proximity sensor, should people want it enough.
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I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
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When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
Phazmos said:
When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
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Tbh, the more I use it, the more I understand why it has this implementation and you are right, there would probably be a battery burden to make it more sensitive. I just wish they could have advertised it. Maybe a deep dive YouTube video or something.