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I have seen multiple mentions about Prime's touch screen requiring 'stronger touches' to react. Is that true?
I would like to use the tablet for sketching, which is done with capacitive pens (like the one made for iPad 2 by Bamboo) which have a sort of an 'air pad' on the tip, making every brush quite light. Does anyone have such a pen and has tried it on a Prime?
It will be frustrating if I cannot use the pen at all if Prime does not react to the less-prominent touches. I also prefer light touches for actions such as swiping across the screen in galleries or on Google Maps instead of making the swipe very prominent.
If you have Prime, could you share your touch-screen experiences with it?
Or is there a video that demo's Prime touch screen with a multitouch app with varying touch stroke strengths? If you have the Prime, could you record such a video? I am sure many would appreciate it
I dont have a pen but it seems that sometimes it takes a harder touch to select anything on the home screen but for.example when im using the browser a very light touch will scroll just fine
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yeah i'm interested in that point to. I have the Bamboo stylus but not the prime.
Asus stated that the touch screen was more responsive (faster) than the average Android tablet and I 'd love to see how that goes compare to say...the original Transformer !
I get my tab tomorrow I have like 3 different stylus I can test out.
Got a rocketfish stylus, cosmonaut, and a dagi. (hoping to get an adonit jot soon too)
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ravizzle said:
I get my tab tomorrow I have like 3 different stylus I can test out.
Got a rocketfish stylus, cosmonaut, and a dagi. (hoping to get an adonit jot soon too)
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Do any of them have an air-pad type of build? Bamboo stylus looks like an 'eraser' from one end, but it is actually an air-pad of sorts, so it is very light. I know that many capacitive pens are like less-friction erasers, completely filled. These are easier to make taps with on less-responsive screens. But they are not as smooth and light for writing naturally.
I am especially interested in the air-pad type of capacitive pens like the Bamboo is, since they are better for sketching and natural handwriting. I wonder if such pens have issues with Prime (they work perfectly on iPad 2 which reacts very well to light brushes).
The cosmonaut and the rocket fish are both air pad type
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ravizzle said:
The cosmonaut and the rocket fish are both air pad type
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Great! Do let us know how they perform, it will play a huge role in my decision whether to buy the device or not.
I hope it works well with my Jot Pro stylus, too. It's really nice on a borrowed iPad 2.
my jot pro is coming today so i can report back then.
but as another poster said, some times selecting items seems to take a harder press than my xoom did but scroll in the opera browser is almost too senstive.. the slightest touch scrolls the browser..
i think you will be fine with your pen.
My touch screen is very responsive I feel no need for a stylus but it wouldn't hurt
I don't have a pen device, but can give a point of comparison...
The touch screen on the Prime is much less sensitive than the one on my Xoom. I wouldn't call it bad, but I definitely have to press harder to register inputs.
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my touchscreen seems very responsive. seeing this thread made me back out n test it again. on my prime, the slightest touch barely touching screen will have it scrolling up, down, left, or right very smoothly. I mean literally the slightest touch and the prime will react. I have a capacitve pen also that I used sometimes on my Ipad for drawing apps like Sketchbook n such. I can't remember the brand of pen. I think its the Targas one. I bought it at best buy when they had their sale on them for cheap. the end of pen is more like half a spongy rubber ball of sorts. if you press it too hard against screen it'll mash down end of tip. so end of my pen tip is not solid. more like hollow rubber end that flexes with pressure. I haven't tried it out on my prime yet. I will though after seeing this thread.
That's weird..Do someone have the original transformer and could give us a comparaison between it and the prime, maybe in a touch screen test apps (wich should not be limited in speed by the software optimisation)
I was looking forward to what Asus called a faster responding touch screen but it seems like they forgot about this one. Or maybe the xoom was very fast. Or it's a software thing or it needs more indepth test to tell
The thing is, I don't NEED a stylus but I'm using one to draw in sketchbook and it's already not always perfect on the Transformer (still good though) but I wouldn't want it to be even less sensitive. It's hard to draw correctly when you have to press the screen like a mad men.
When I first got my prime, I had issues with the touch screen. Typing was especially a pain because it wasn't recognizing key presses. I then used the cleaning cloth that it came with and cleaned the screen really well. Since then I've had no problems.
I'm guessing that the protective plastic left a film.
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When I first got my prime, I had issues with the touch screen. Typing was especially a pain because it wasn't recognizing key presses. I then used the cleaning cloth that it came with and cleaned the screen really well. Since then I've had no problems.
I'm guessing that the protective plastic left a film.
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The firmware updates helped alot too
The cosmonaut words terribly with the prime.
The rockfish works pretty good when writing, but for delicate touches when drawing it its a bit jittery. Looks like I'm making dotted line instead of solid lines. Needs a fair amount of pressure, but not super hard.
However when using fingers to draw even light touches work great.
Waiting on funds to get a adonit jot pro bc I hear that is the best stylus
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anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
Capacitive stylus vs. Active Digitizer
stratax said:
no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: (link) this is how it works
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
Vikingpus said:
This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
stratax said:
what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
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Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
mikeschevelle said:
Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
gypsy214 said:
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
ph00ny said:
My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm
Just for the heck of it I plugged my wacom bamboo pen tablet (no touch) into my stock N10, and wa la, it works out of box. I can draw pictures using marker and the app detects the pen pressure (I did not check all 1024 level . If I write really fast there is a small lag -- 1 second or two -- between my pen's movement and the resulting scribble on the screen, but the scribble is smooth.
This of course is not a replacement of Note 10.1, but in a pinch...
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Just for the heck of it I plugged my wacom bamboo pen tablet (no touch) into my stock N10, and wa la, it works out of box. I can draw pictures using marker and the app detects the pen pressure (I did not check all 1024 level . If I write really fast there is a small lag -- 1 second or two -- between my pen's movement and the resulting scribble on the screen, but the scribble is smooth.
This of course is not a replacement of Note 10.1, but in a pinch...
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do you have a link to buy?
tuffballa said:
do you have a link to buy?
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Good price here at Amazon
hah, that's awesome. I have the bamboo pen and touch, but no otg cable yet.
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Just for the heck of it I plugged my wacom bamboo pen tablet (no touch) into my stock N10, and wa la, it works out of box. I can draw pictures using marker and the app detects the pen pressure (I did not check all 1024 level . If I write really fast there is a small lag -- 1 second or two -- between my pen's movement and the resulting scribble on the screen, but the scribble is smooth.
This of course is not a replacement of Note 10.1, but in a pinch...
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I think you meant voila.
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My VisTablet PenPad also works fine too Pressure levels also seem to work according to Autodesk's Sketch thing (more pressure = darker lines).
I recently received a galaxy tab 10.1 with a damaged screen. While I was disassembling it I noticed it was very similar to the tab 2 which ive worked on before. I had a screen (with bad burn in ) and digitizer from a recent tab 2 repair so I wanted to see if they would work with the older tab so I sould test it before buying parts... sure enough it worked. I was wondering if they are in fact the same parts or would long term usage cause damge? I am wondering more about the digitizer at the momoment since the one I have functions fine but I am curious about the lcd also for future reference
It appears the lcd is the same/interchangeable the digitizer is not. The glass on the original tab is slightly larger (wider from left to right) so although it functions it's not an exact fit.
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I'm hoping to use the galaxy tab s7 spen on my note 20 ultra as I find it to be much better to grip than the small note 20 ultra spen, does anyone know how I would be able to charge the s7 spen, if I don't actually own the tab s7 tablet? I have a tab s6 so not sure if it can charge on the tab s6?. Also does the spen work on any other android phone or tablet?
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
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jeromekobriger said:
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
jeromekobriger said:
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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I have the Note20 Ultra and the tab S7+ and able to use both pens viceversa. Just make sure you have the option enabled in the spen settings that allows multiple spens. Can use the pen of the tab on the Note while the pen is still inside the phone.
So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
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So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
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They do that. Try resetting it and playing with it a couple times. The deep freeze didn't hurt it.
Not sure what reinitalizes it. I didn't use mine for 2 months and it behaved the same way. Wouldn't show or take a charge then after a couple days of playing with it, it started working again. It been fine for over a year now.
Try a reboot. Reset it.
Try a hard reboot. Reset it.
Try clearing the system cache. Reset it.
Try clearing it's data. Reboot
You get the idea... it just wants some wuv
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
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Supposedly, you can have multiple S Pens linked to one phone/tablet. I got my Tab S7 to work on my Note 10+ 5G like you said.
The S Pen setting is: Settings -> Advanced features -> S Pen -> Allow multiple S Pens (Let other S Pens write on the screen while your S Pen's inserted into your phone. This may drain your battery.)
Once you toggle that on, restart your phone and it works without you having to take out the S Pen.
I have my old Tab S3 S-pen I use on my note 10+ and now also on the Tab S7+...the Tab S7 pen works on my note 10, did not tried vice versa as the little note 10 pen is just an emergency solution for me.