Where are the developers? - AT&T LG Optimus G

Before anyone gets all mad, I'm asking because I'm torn between getting this phone or the Galaxy Note II. The specs here are most excellent and its very, very similar to the Nexus 4. But there is just sooo much more happening for the Note II than there is over here. Why isn't the LGOG getting more love? It seems like that might be scaring people away. What do you guys think?
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You should read through this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988724

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Murasakiii said:
You should read through this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1988724
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I have read that entire thread; I've been lurking for a while. Also, Ibet myself you would be the first person to reply to me. So, thanks! I think it is rather short-sighted to go with a phone just for what it can do out of the box. Potential and upside are what people buy these shiny new phones for and what XDA is about. Otherwise it wouldn't be needed. That said, I'm only asking if anyone knows why there is such a disparity in the two communities. If no one knows, that's fair enough as I'm only asking.
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Welcome. :B
Perhaps you should think to yourself, "If XDA did not exist, which phone would I get?"
Good luck deciding, Mr. Sassafrass.

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Jank4AU said:
Before anyone gets all mad, I'm asking because I'm torn between getting this phone or the Galaxy Note II. The specs here are most excellent and its very, very similar to the Nexus 4. But there is just sooo much more happening for the Note II than there is over here. Why isn't the LGOG getting more love? It seems like that might be scaring people away. What do you guys think?
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Welcome Jank4AU, i too am coming from the I777 GS2. You have helped on that forum once or twice if i recall correctly. I to was on the fence between the two devices. I love samsung devices and the dev community over there. Its very robust as you know. But the Note is and was just to big for me. Size is what made me decide. I believe in a month or two the Lg optimus g just may take off. Maybe. If you are patient, i say wait it out. Good luck making your decision. Btw. I'm rooted and unlocked.
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Cojam1 said:
Welcome Jank4AU, i too am coming from the I777 GS2. You have helped on that forum once or twice if i recall correctly. I to was on the fence between the two devices. I love samsung devices and the dev community over there. Its very robust as you know. But the Note is and was just to big for me. Size is what made me decide. I believe in a month or two the Lg optimus g just may take off. Maybe. If you are patient, i say wait it out. Good luck making your decision. Btw. I'm rooted and unlocked.
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Yeah man, almost all my XDA posts have been on the I777 forums. I learned how to do my boot animations over there. Just made the latest one for SHOstock3. I wish Shoman94 would jump over here; THAT would make up my mind. But, that's neither here nor there. I should probably just put my darn money where my mouth is and try to make my own ROM. How hard can it be right? Obviously kidding...
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Bit the bullet and got the OG. I know better than to give an impression of a device immediately after spending a wad of cash on something, but this is pretty cool. Looking forward to using it for a few days then rooting. Will work on a custom boot animation and some signatures in the coming weeks. But, I am excited...
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Jank4AU said:
Bit the bullet and got the OG. I know better than to give an impression of a device immediately after spending a wad of cash on something, but this is pretty cool. Looking forward to using it for a few days then rooting. Will work on a custom boot animation and some signatures in the coming weeks. But, I am excited...
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That'd be awesome man!

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I've been asking that same question ever since the OG came out. It's actually quite strange that development has been so relatively slow considering the fact that the Nexus 4 hardware is based off of the OG. It could be because of the locked bootloader, even though it's already been unlocked through an exploit. I'm planning on getting it myself since my contract expired 3 months ago, but the slow pace of development has worried me a bit.

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Jank4AU said:
Before anyone gets all mad, I'm asking because I'm torn between getting this phone or the Galaxy Note II. The specs here are most excellent and its very, very similar to the Nexus 4. But there is just sooo much more happening for the Note II than there is over here. Why isn't the LGOG getting more love? It seems like that might be scaring people away. What do you guys think?
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Just my two cents, and just guessing!
Bad news first:
Even though the OG has expandable storage & LTE, the dev community will support the Nexus 4 50x more than this phone (I feel like this is very likely).
For one, the Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
I gather from other posts that the OG has a locked bootloader? I bet that will eventually be overcome, but that's still sorta like a red flag, and could make it more prone to bricking.
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
The price of the N4 is really attractive, and will probably have a huge market, and a larger market is (IMO) more attractive to develop for. Some devs have multiple devices of the same model, so price could definitely be an issue!
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone!
Now some good news!
If the bootloader gets an easy unlock, then after some time - like, winter/spring 2013, perhaps - I expect some of the N4 devs will gain interest in the OG for the LTE/expandable storage/familiar architecture. Some of the popular Nexus 4 ROMs will get "ported" to the OG, which I imagine will be fairly simple, considering the similar chipsets. I feel like this is fairly likely.
Sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to hear, just throwing out my guesses
If you need LTE/SD, sit tight, devs will come eventually... after all, this phone is still basically BRAND new. If ROMs are what you want in a phone, and can live with 3G and USB OTG for SD storage, then jump ship for a Nexus 4.
oh HUGE EDIT: didn't realize you were considering Note II, not N4, sorry! Go for the Note II, that's what I would get if I could choose between the two! The Note II really lends itself to ROM/theme stuff, some reallyneat things happening over there!

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Komodo Rogue said:
Just my two cents, and just guessing!
Bad news first:
Even though the OG has expandable storage & LTE, the dev community will support the Nexus 4 50x more than this phone (I feel like this is very likely).
For one, the Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
I gather from other posts that the OG has a locked bootloader? I bet that will eventually be overcome, but that's still sorta like a red flag, and could make it more prone to bricking.
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
The price of the N4 is really attractive, and will probably have a huge market, and a larger market is (IMO) more attractive to develop for. Some devs have multiple devices of the same model, so price could definitely be an issue!
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone!
Now some good news!
If the bootloader gets an easy unlock, then after some time - like, winter/spring 2013, perhaps - I expect some of the N4 devs will gain interest in the OG for the LTE/expandable storage/familiar architecture. Some of the popular Nexus 4 ROMs will get "ported" to the OG, which I imagine will be fairly simple, considering the similar chipsets. I feel like this is fairly likely.
Sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to hear, just throwing out my guesses
If you need LTE/SD, sit tight, devs will come eventually... after all, this phone is still basically BRAND new. If ROMs are what you want in a phone, and can live with 3G and USB OTG for SD storage, then jump ship for a Nexus 4.
oh HUGE EDIT: didn't realize you were considering Note II, not N4, sorry! Go for the Note II, that's what I would get if I could choose between the two! The Note II really lends itself to ROM/theme stuff, some reallyneat things happening over there!
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Did you just get here???
Boot loader has been unlocked for quite some time now... we have both clockwork and team win recovery.
Lg will have everything the nexus 4 has as it is the same phone and will be ported to this phone very soon. Mark my words...
This is the nexus 4 minus the name..Lol.. everything else is the nexus... read a bit before spouting out bs...
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Komodo Rogue said:
Just my two cents, and just guessing!
Bad news first:
Even though the OG has expandable storage & LTE, the dev community will support the Nexus 4 50x more than this phone (I feel like this is very likely).
For one, the Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
I gather from other posts that the OG has a locked bootloader? I bet that will eventually be overcome, but that's still sorta like a red flag, and could make it more prone to bricking.
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
The price of the N4 is really attractive, and will probably have a huge market, and a larger market is (IMO) more attractive to develop for. Some devs have multiple devices of the same model, so price could definitely be an issue!
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone!
Now some good news!
If the bootloader gets an easy unlock, then after some time - like, winter/spring 2013, perhaps - I expect some of the N4 devs will gain interest in the OG for the LTE/expandable storage/familiar architecture. Some of the popular Nexus 4 ROMs will get "ported" to the OG, which I imagine will be fairly simple, considering the similar chipsets. I feel like this is fairly likely.
Sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to hear, just throwing out my guesses
If you need LTE/SD, sit tight, devs will come eventually... after all, this phone is still basically BRAND new. If ROMs are what you want in a phone, and can live with 3G and USB OTG for SD storage, then jump ship for a Nexus 4.
oh HUGE EDIT: didn't realize you were considering Note II, not N4, sorry! Go for the Note II, that's what I would get if I could choose between the two! The Note II really lends itself to ROM/theme stuff, some reallyneat things happening over there!
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Komodo Rogue said:
Just my two cents, and just guessing!
Bad news first:
Even though the OG has expandable storage & LTE, the dev community will support the Nexus 4 50x more than this phone (I feel like this is very likely).
For one, the Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
I gather from other posts that the OG has a locked bootloader? I bet that will eventually be overcome, but that's still sorta like a red flag, and could make it more prone to bricking.
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone.
The price of the N4 is really attractive, and will probably have a huge market, and a larger market is (IMO) more attractive to develop for. Some devs have multiple devices of the same model, so price could definitely be an issue!
The Nexus 4 is a Nexus phone!
Now some good news!
If the bootloader gets an easy unlock, then after some time - like, winter/spring 2013, perhaps - I expect some of the N4 devs will gain interest in the OG for the LTE/expandable storage/familiar architecture. Some of the popular Nexus 4 ROMs will get "ported" to the OG, which I imagine will be fairly simple, considering the similar chipsets. I feel like this is fairly likely.
Sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to hear, just throwing out my guesses
If you need LTE/SD, sit tight, devs will come eventually... after all, this phone is still basically BRAND new. If ROMs are what you want in a phone, and can live with 3G and USB OTG for SD storage, then jump ship for a Nexus 4.
oh HUGE EDIT: didn't realize you were considering Note II, not N4, sorry! Go for the Note II, that's what I would get if I could choose between the two! The Note II really lends itself to ROM/theme stuff, some reallyneat things happening over there!
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So, you have 1 point: The OG isn't a Nexus phone and the N4 is? Thanks for your brilliant insight.

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The problem I see is that the devs, or at least the ones I work with, have all upgraded recently and are stuck paying full retail for phones. That gets expensive. I'm the only one on our team with the phone, and it is too much for me to take on with work and family. What is crazy to me is that I read in other threads where members are donating to devs so that they can get them to work on a phone. Not only that, but I know of a dev that got the donated phone, did one little ROM (took out all the bloat which anyone can do with TB) and then turned around and sold the phone! That is just plain wrong. Hell, any money we get from out TN site goes right back into the site to pay for the server and such.

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Why in gods name would people give a phone to someone like that.

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whiteguypl said:
Why in gods name would people give a phone to someone like that.
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No idea. I've also seen people pay for someone's early termination fee just so they could keep developing for that phone. That's a crock of sh!t too...
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droidiac13 said:
No idea. I've also seen people pay for someone's early termination fee just so they could keep developing for that phone. That's a crock of sh!t too...
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I almost paid for a guy to get an early upgrade just to get him a new phone and off our message boards...real nuisance and PITA!
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I dare anyone to go to the Nexus 4 forums and not cry after seeing all the ROMs over there...
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I admit that I am a bit jealous after seeing the amount of development already going in the N4 but I am sure that we will also get some cool roms pretty soon. What I am more worried about is the lack of accessories since we can't even get a decent case for the AT&T version.

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Rattles said:
I admit that I am a bit jealous after seeing the amount of development already going in the N4 but I am sure that we will also get some cool roms pretty soon. What I am more worried about is the lack of accessories since we can't even get a decent case for the AT&T version.
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Tell me about it. My LGOG is still naked, and I'm terrified to drop it...