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I have been so busy catching up with all the amazing stuff Da_G has been pumping out (thanks!) that I didn't even take a look at this until now. I am showing that we only have 733MB of avaliable RAM. That is a far cry from 1024MB.
I am seeing 733MB w/ both Android System Info and with the built-in Task Manager.
Does anyone know if we indeed have 1024MB of RAM and... if it is just assigned else where?
Yes we have 1GB every phone has RAM missing because the system is holding it.
I remember one time the OS didn't support that much not sure if that's the case now but the phone has 1GB to my knowledge and.what I've read
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I have also read that is has 1GB everywhere, but missing 291MB seems like an awful lot.
I beleive my Atrix showed 897MB. I just seems like an awful lot 'mssing' w/ the Note.
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I am with you on that! Makes me
I noticed the same, it's showing short but using the same app(system tuner pro) on my G2 it showed the correct 512mb.
It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
Graphics memory
As with any computer your phone has a gpu which needs graphics memory and because the gpu is integrated (SOC) it takes its memory off the top. This can be seen with any computer you have with integrated graphics it will section off some memory for your gpu.
As for the flash memory space many issues can take it down such as the file system, operating system, it just depends but trust me before the phone was turned on and android installed it had 16gb of memory and 1gb of ram
I'm about 100% CPU and GPU can't share ram as they do completely different tasks. They could have just added the cram and the ram to get 1GB though... But otherwise, the missing ram is from system tasks and the OS.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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Do we have a reference or any proof of this?
And to the post directly above this, any computer that does not have a dedicated graphics card uses shared system memory, just like our phones. 733MB is just quite a bit away from 1024MB.
they can and do use the same memory because they are the same soc aka system on chip. all this is integrated.
So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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I am not talking about FREE. I am talking about the system as a whole. Do we really have 1GB of RAM? Where it is being used I am not so concerned about at this point, but it may help us figure out if we do indeed have 1GB (Where is the remaing 291MB assigned).
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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i have international version of note.its same way on this one.the missing ram is held by system tasks.as for 16gb storage memory.if you wipe all area on usb storage .u will have 16gb but not a working phone.another thing about free ram.dont use task manager to stop apps.all it does is make the phone lag.leave everything running.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
tizzy said:
You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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I have 700 free. With just 2 home screens 2 Widgets and a few apps and live wallpaper.
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Two dozen open apps on mine right now, and it shows 283 MB used, 302 MB free.
On my AT&T gs2 I consistantly show 830 to 850 MB free. On my note I only see a lil over 700. How can this have less ram than my gs2? I have over 80 app on my gs2 and less than half that on my note!!!
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Probably xtra things (like snote )loaded on note that wouldn't be on your s2
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Mainly processor wise. Is this the fastest phone on the market currently?
I know the Xperia S is using a 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon CPU but is it as fast as the processor used in the Galaxy S2?
Memory and most other specs seem similar to all other new phones.
Although I did see recently that in a benchmark test it was quicker than the Galaxy Nexus for most if not all applications.
Just wondering how this phone will hold up after a year.
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Mainly processor wise. Is this the fastest phone on the market currently?
I know the Xperia S is using a 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon CPU but is it as fast as the processor used in the Galaxy S2?
Memory and most other specs seem similar to all other new phones.
Although I did see recently that in a benchmark test it was quicker than the Galaxy Nexus for most if not all applications.
Just wondering how this phone will hold up after a year.
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First year is OK. Arc came where they were dual cores and other stuff and it will even stay longer because phone's usability differs from person to another.
For what this phone is, it pretty good to me and what I have seen and after ICS hits this phone the true power will come out.
Very few applications are even designed/optimized for multi-core use, let alone quad-core.
While the lack of a quad-core will turn away most measurebators who want to buy the latest, glitziest quad-core model, from a software perspective there isn't much out there that will benefit from the extra 2 cores out yet for the next 2 years or so.
I'm a bit bummed about the 14.4 mbs d/l speed and the pathetic 2.1 bluetooth profile. They could have at least done 21mbs and Bt 3.0
Is it true this phone has 2gb RAM also?
I just checked my phone memory and it has 1.78gb free.
It's different from internal storage which I have 25.5gb free.
ssj_jaypee said:
Is it true this phone has 2gb RAM also?
I just checked my phone memory and it has 1.78gb free.
It's different from internal storage which I have 25.5gb free.
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Hmm!
There is 1 partion for internal system storage, and it is about 2Gb, other partition we known as sdcard, ~ 28 Gb.
So i dont think the phone has 2 Gb ram!
ssj_jaypee said:
Is it true this phone has 2gb RAM also?
I just checked my phone memory and it has 1.78gb free.
It's different from internal storage which I have 25.5gb free.
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Just like with PCs, there's a difference between internal storage and RAM.
AFAIK, the Xperia S has 512 MB RAM, of which about 340MB is available for applications to use while they are running. Right now, with the optimizations I have in place, I get about 370MB free RAM, which is a HUGE boost from the 100-140 I had on the Arc.
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Just like with PCs, there's a difference between internal storage and RAM.
AFAIK, the Xperia S has 512 MB RAM, of which about 340MB is available for applications to use while they are running. Right now, with the optimizations I have in place, I get about 370MB free RAM, which is a HUGE boost from the 100-140 I had on the Arc.
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This is incorrect Xperia S has 1gb RAM. The 2GB partition is for app installs and the ~28gb is your internal sdcard storage. The 2gb and 28gb internal storage is just partitions off of the 32gb internal flash storage.
sabre31 said:
This is incorrect Xperia S has 1gb RAM. The 2GB partition is for app installs and the ~28gb is your internal sdcard storage. The 2gb and 28gb internal storage is just partitions off of the 32gb internal flash storage.
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Yes, you may be right about the 1GB - I currently see 178MB used, 453MB free, so the rest would be used by the OS.
Still a massive boost over the Arc.
ssj_jaypee said:
Mainly processor wise. Is this the fastest phone on the market currently?
I know the Xperia S is using a 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon CPU but is it as fast as the processor used in the Galaxy S2?
Memory and most other specs seem similar to all other new phones.
Although I did see recently that in a benchmark test it was quicker than the Galaxy Nexus for most if not all applications.
Just wondering how this phone will hold up after a year.
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No this phone does not have the fastest CPU this is only downside to Xperia S. They released an excellent phone with last year CPU. The CPU Sony has is snapdragon scorpion or S3 while most phones being released in 2012 will have a snapdragon Krait or S4. The S4 actually performs faster than a Nvidia Tegra 3 quad core CPU which the HTC One X will have. If Sony released this phone with an S4 it would have best the ultimate android device IMO. However the Xperia S is still a good device that will last you a year easily and it beats a galaxy nexus which is the premium android phone right now as far as CPU.
Phones with 1gb of ram will have 256mb for dalvik virtual machine, so only 744 mb ram availble, and ram for system cache is about 200mb, that why you see free ram is about 400 mb.
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I think it will be appropriate to ask users of SGS 3 international version . Do they feel and performance issues or hiccups with 1 GB ram that is available in device or 2 GB is what i should go for that is available in Note 2.
i am not really worried about size , S pen , overclocked CPU. so its basically down to RAM only... this is only difference. So hope i can get some good suggestion.
I have a HTC Flyer with 1 GB RAM... but so many times it even sucks on performance basis. like htc sense reloading and all.
So suggest, should i go for SGS3 with 1 GB RAM or Note 2 with 2 GB RAM?
Go with note 2 unless you plan on installing cm10 on your phone. 1 GB ram is not enough for all the bloat on the S3. Multitasking is also a joke.
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I thought the new Galaxy s3 9305 has 2GB Ram?
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I thought the new Galaxy s3 9305 has 2GB Ram?
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Well that's only region specific bro. You can't get that phone in other region.
To OP: Well personally i would chose S3 due to Note 2's bigger screen size. You will need to root your phone anyway after buying it. So it's your choice. As you stated you have no problem with size, go with Note 2, it's a heck of a phone. But S3 is more compact, handy and afaik has bigger dev community than Note2( please correct me if i'm wrong)
Remove samsung bloatware, and S3 is a great performance device.
The only time i really multitask and have the most load on my SGS3 is when i listen to a stream with tunein and play a game like GTA3 or Asphalt 7 at the same time.
1 GB ram has never been an issue here.
This is on a debloated and touchwiz frozen custom rom.
But the real question here is if you want a smartphone or a phablet.
the only question here is 1gb ram or 2 gb ram.... i already have htc device with 1 gb ram... and i am not happy with it....after reading above i think samsung is also the same....looks like i will not be happy with s3 also.... note 2 gets the nod right now.....but i will see live display units in a samsung store and then decide... better safe than sorry
I never have any issues and I am a heavy user of multi-window and also gaming
Hi everybody, I'm Gabri, I've bought this nice Lg L9 II and I need help
The phone is branded, and out of the box I found already installed in it Android 4.4.2.
After having stopped and disabled the unwanted brand apps, I checked the resources and I had a bad surprise. Considering that the specs are 1GB of RAM and 8 GB of ROM, I have only 240 free MB of RAM and 3.07 GB of ROM available. And I haven't even installed any app or started to use the phone. Is it normal?
Thank you four your help / advices guys.
Yes it's normal. The 8 GB storage is divided in two partitions, 4 GB each. One for the android system and one for apps, music, photos etc. The pre-installed apps are using 1 GB of the second partition so you have 3 GB available.
As for the RAM many apps start running by default when the the phone boots (keyboard, dialer, sms, maps, weather etc) and the system automatically stops some of this apps to free RAM when needed to run other apps.
thank you l3t0m,
this makes me think that kitkat is very eager of resources, so how is it possible that you can find kitkat also in devices with only 4GB of ROM and 512MB of RAM? considering that my phone has 8GB and 1GB and more than half of both are already taken by the system....
One more question: the used RAM memory is 523MB (even if the processes in the list of the active apps do not reach that amount of occupied RAM at all), and the free RAM is only 240MB... so where is the rest of memory necessary to have a total amount of 1GB??
Sorry for such a kind of questions, maybe the everyday experience with the device is still satisfying and one should not worry about this stuff (yet I don't have a direct comparison with previous android versions in my device), but I simply would like to understand if everything is ok or maybe I need to changes something to have the best possible experience with this nice L9 II.
Thank you!
The devices with 4 GB ROM have about 1,5 GB available for the user which is obviously not so much considering that many popular apps are taking up to 100 mb and if you use a GPS navigator the maps also need some hundreds mb of storage to be downloaded on your device. Add to this the frequent app updates and the photos/videos you shoot with the 8MP/1080p camera and you will be out of storage.
I think that 8 GB is the minimum you need to have the best experience with a device like the L9 II.
I have no idea why the rest of the 1 GB RAM is not showing (that's happening on my device also), maybe someone with more technical knowledge could explain this. Anyway, as far as the device works fine (and it does!) there is no reason to worry about.
Personally I'm a bit worried about the phone only having 3GB of RAM. I am a power user and play games pretty often too. I constantly switch from Chrome, Line messenger, whatsapp, facebook, skype, clash of clans, and a few other games. I switch from literally all these apps pretty much every time I pickup my phone to use.
I had the S6 Edge before and the downtime all adds up because of the crappy memory management. Even my Xiao mi 3 with 2gb RAM handles multitasking literally twice as good, but its not good enough for what I do on my phone.
Does anyone out there have a similar habit to me with 3GB/4GB of RAM device that can comment? Would love to hear from the experts here that has similar usage as me!
Is 3GB enough? How much do you have spare after loading all your daily apps?
I don't worry.as Nexus 5X has only 2g ram.
Dont worry about the 3GB RAM it will be sufficient for your needs. And dont based it on SGS6 because RAM management on that phone is veerry aggressive and I actually sold my S6 for MXPE 2015 because of that issue.
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I'm not necessarily worried per se but I would have liked for it to have 4GB of RAM only for future proofing.
I'm buying this phone for my dad. Unlike me, he doesn't like to change his phone for at least 2- 3 years, he's been using his Lumia for 3-4 I believe and for someone like that, I think it is worth it to get something that can last a while.
Not worried at all. I'm hesitant to get my wife the 5x because of only having 2gb though.
Too many screen redraws on my xperia devices but far less on a nexus device with 2gb ram. Less bloatware on Nexus devices meaning more free ram.
Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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Nope 3gb is more then enough
It's plenty.
Nexus is Pure Android, So no worries at all
The oneplus two I had almost never went more than 2.4gb in usage.
3gb lpddr4 should be plenty.
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Lol you guys realize 3gb of ram is a ton...its a freaking phone! Can you remember not so long ago computers had on average 1 to 2gb ram. Now we expect our cellphones to have 4gb... Pretty crazy!
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that was well over ten years a go and technology moves fast
more typos!
More to the point in, 5 years:
N1 512MB LPDDR;
NS 512MB LPDDR;
GN 1GB LPDDR2;
N4 2GB LPDDR2;
N5 2GB LPDDR3;
N6 3GB LPDDR3;
N5X 2GB LPDDR3;
N6P 3GB LPDDR4.
500% increase in RAM and each new LPDDR generation doubles fetch size and transfer speed.
At first I was slightly concerned about the 6p only having 3GB. But after finding out it utilizes LPDDR4 RAM, I'm not too concerned anymore. The extra bandwidth of LPDDR4 will do wonders for the 2560 x 1440 display.
LPDDR4 Specifications: http://www.androidauthority.com/lpddr4-everything-need-know-599759/
I worry all the time.... Just 3gig.... I need like 128gig of ram.... F Google....
Can you recognize my sarcasm over here.... It's a nexus even my nexus5 can multitask better than any phone out there
people, I can play crysis 3 with 4gb on my pc at extreme.
3gb DDR4 is more than enough for a smartphone. look at the iphone (1gb)
i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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i understand where you guys are coming from. I'm worried about 3GB because my xiao mi3 with 2GB has over 1GB available with no apps open. When I start using it, I have apps reloading left right and center because I have everything on the go inc 3 games. But the Xiao Mi3 defo handles it better than the S6 Edge.
LDDR4 doesn't mean it will keep apps open better than DDR3 right? Its just faster.
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Yeah ddr4 is only faster.
yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
ocp15k said:
yeh thought so. Also the quad HD display is just gonna hog more memory too.
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More RAM will be used up as video RAM for the QHD, yeah. To be honest, as bad as the Samsung phones are for memory, they're not unusable and work ok. When you think of all the crap the 6P won't have running in the background compared to the Sammys, I really think it'll work well.