I know that many people will tell me that with new batteries it doesnt matter, but I need to know anyway, because nobody seems to be really sure.
Think of this as a research.
When you buy a new phone, what do you do first: let it drain the initial battery charge or fully charge right out of the box?
How is your battery life (considering what you did)?
Thanks.-
I usually drain the initial charge
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I usually charge it and then drain in on the first use. It doesn't have an effect on the batteries, its more of a way to calibrate the device to its battery. But I don't really think it makes a huge difference. Your battery life early on is usually bad due to all the time you spend setting up a new deice.
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Hello dear members
I'd like to ask if an everyday charge will harm my battery.
It's my first week with my phone, and I can't keep my hands off it
As a result, battery runs out every day!! So I charge it...
Will something happen to the battery?
thanks in advance
This phone has a litium ion battery. They don't have a memory effect but in the first time they need some time to become the full potential. So it doesn't matter if you charge the phone every day.
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Thank you so much!!!!
It's a relief
To maintain better battery life it might be a good idea to make sure that u dont fully drain the battery
That shouldn't be a problem the most battery's should have electronic inside to prevent this but I can't guarantee it. You can read also the Wikipedia article about lithium ion batteries it's quite interesting.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
Thanks so much everyone Point taken
I'll never let it fall under 10%.
Well, Battery is average. If it weren't for the 2.3.3 bug, it would rock! In order for it to be normal, I keep ****ting Services.(under Services menu) like Voice talk, SocialHub(which drains a lot of battery) etc
Anyways, thanks to everyone
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
Sleepycat3 said:
It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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Nope. Li-ion batteries these days prefer constant top-ups and full drain actually kills it faster. Totally opposite of what people have been taught over years of NiCD battery use that I've got friends who absolutely refuse to charge their iPhones unless it's at 10% or less. Their loss.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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No that's only good to do once in a while. Full discharges daily put stress on the cells and wear out li ion batteries quicker.
CarpathianUK said:
I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
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Yes it's common for all lithium ion batteries to charge as often as possible. Its true for all phones on the market today and quite a lot of discussion on this is all around the web.
Also a replacement stock battery for any cell phone today is around 20 dollars, so really you can't do much wrong since its so cheap to buy a new OEM battery replacement.
Thanks for the replies. I think this will catch a few people out so hope the thread doesn't get missed amongst all the other battery ones!
Looks like I'd better change my charging habits!
I'm getting my S3 tomorrow second hand, is there anything I should do to ensure i get the best possible performance from my battery? I know there are apps that can wipe the battery stats etc, is that still relevant on the S3? Any general advice?
Battery calibration was a myth that has been debunked by Google engineers a while ago. It still seems to persist though.
Just charge your battery when you get your phone. You can play with it at the same time. It will just by charge a little slower. After that charge as necessary. Battery life will improve over the first few cycles.
Enjoy your new toy when it arrives
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^^ what he said. And then again I was reading on a thread that the starting battery calibration is not correct and needed to drain to 0% and then get a full charge to see better results. I havnt tried this yet so not sure cause everyone uses their phones differently.
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I just received my new 2000mAh Samsung replacement battery. When I say "getting the most" from it, I mean get the best performance and prolonging it's life. Now I've read about many myths regarding Li-ion batteries. Some say that upon first use you should do a full discharge and recharge cycles for at least 5 times. Some say that you should never allow it to discharge below 50%.. Some recommend to charge it only when the phone is in shutdown... Some say you should not charge it all the way to 100%...
What do you guys say based on your experience? Does this bat need a full charging cycles? What is considered a full cycle? Is anyone here using this bat? Did you notice any major difference compared to the stock bat?
Thank you for your cooperation
EB10000 said:
Hi
I just received my new 2000mAh Samsung replacement battery. When I say "getting the most" from it, I mean get the best performance and prolonging it's life. Now I've read about many myths regarding Li-ion batteries. Some say that upon first use you should do a full discharge and recharge cycles for at least 5 times. Some say that you should never allow it to discharge below 50%.. Some recommend to charge it only when the phone is in shutdown... Some say you should not charge it all the way to 100%...
What do you guys say based on your experience? Does this bat need a full charging cycles? What is considered a full cycle? Is anyone here using this bat? Did you notice any major difference compared to the stock bat?
Thank you for your cooperation
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Mate there are tons of information regarding battery life here on XDA. In most cases it depends on your ROM and Kernel as well as usage. You can do a search but for starters you can try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909996. I personally have the 2000mAh battery and yes there is a very noticeable difference compared to stock battery. It is probably best to fully charge your battery and let it run all the way down for at least 2 cycles. If you want to get more technical and tweak settings you can visit the thread I posted or do a search if this is not what you are looking for.
Just do what I do, don't care. Of course I don't want my phone dead around noon. That's why I use betterbatterystats, I just look for wakelocks and processes which eat up battery. That's it! It obsesses you if you always want to improve. Getting rid of wakelocks and stuff is all you want. Trust me, focus on not caring about the battery, find a ROM you like charge cycle it a few days and battery is fine.
Hey guys since the nexus 10 has a non removable battery, I was wondering how to increase the overall life span of the battery because I will probably keep this tablet for many years
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Rules for lithium battery best life is never full charge, and never full discharge.
Would be best to have an option in kernel to stop the charge at 80% and alert if go lower than 20% some notebook (sony) have this option
filthygoat223996 said:
Hey guys since the nexus 10 has a non removable battery, I was wondering how to increase the overall life span of the battery because I will probably keep this tablet for many years
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The Nexus 10 battery isn't really non-removable. Either you can take it apart and replace it yourself (I'm pretty sure I've already seen some places selling replacements) or pay a qualified professional to do it.. You really shouldn't ever have to worry about it unless you treat your battrery like garbage and leave it fully discharged for extended periods of time.
To the previous poster, I'm almost 95% certain Android is setup now to show 100% charge to the user but on the backend of things it's only charging it to like 95% or so to prevent over charges and damage to the battery.. Early builds in ICS it would actually show 94%/95% as fully charged but somewhere along the chain of builds they made it show 100% to the end user because so many forums and Googles help pages were flooded with support requests for their battery not charging to 100%.
I'm sure a dev can add to this and know the exact point Google stopped displaying a full charge 95% and masked it with a false 100%
The battery is pretty easily replaceable, and is readily available for $59 and change:
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Google-Nexus-10-Battery-p-24380.html
Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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beicuxhaven said:
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...