Okay... so... it seems like hell trying to figure this out... and I'm sure its probably a really dumb question BUT I have to cancel my order for the MAXX before Amazon ships it tomorrow if I can't figure this out. Trying to get info on the MAXX is worse than making my own damn HTC gold card.
The RAZR and MAXX have the same hardware from what I understand? But there are different ROMs depending on what phone you have? I ordered a Verizon MAXX through Amazon Wireless... I have a few questions.
First off, custom ROMs - how does that work?
Secondly, if Verizon pisses me off I understand these have GSM radios with at&t bands (I currently have Straight Talk running off of at&t's postpaid network) but it seems like different models don't support US bands?
I know about the OMAP bomb... Where basically if the bootloader is hacked, the phone basically self-destructs... at least that is what I heard - I haven't ever had to deal with it.
This is more confusing than the gold card mess so can someone please explain to me, within the next few hours, if I should cancel my order and compare the brick ratio to an HTC gold card process?
All I want is a phone that can run CM10 without losing anything but the camera - without having to worry about bricking it. I originally ordered the RAZR 4G... but I canceled the order because of people saying it was anything but durable and I wanted to grab an S3 but I won't pay 150 bucks when I can pay a penny...
Please tell me I didn't just make a huge mistake... My Captivate is on its last legs... the eMMC keeps crashing and I can't use wifi on it or it shuts off the phone when it goes to sleep... even on a stock ROM... I gave away my Inspire (which honestly only "inspired" me to want to smash it into the nearest wall anyway) ... so now I will be stuck with a refurb E-71 that won't power on unless I fidget with it - Unless I made a good choice getting the Maxx.
Any help is greatly appreciated - seriously... I understand the hardware is pretty much the same with the RAZR and RAZR MAXX? Besides the battery?
Sorry, I'm rambling, but for once, my head is spinning... And I already canceled one Moto order today because everyone said the RAZR 4G (that's what Amazon Wireless was calling it) was breaking randomly and the MAXX came highly recommended... I wanted a GS3 - but I don't have the money and besides I heard that the reception sucks on the GS3 and my roommate has one and I think its a plastic toy... Great camera, unlocked bootloader, etc., though...
Basically... if I'm going to leave my 50.71 a month Straight Talk plan and enter into a 2 year contract with Verizon paying 90 a month plus tax just for 1GB of data, I want to make sure I'm getting the right phone...
Razr and Razr Maxx are both Model XT912. The only difference is that the former has a 1780 MaH battery and the latter has a 3300 MaH battery. See this Wiki page.
Razr HD and Razr Maxx HD are both Model XT926. Like the XT912, the only differences between HD and Maxx HD is the battery.
Hi i font know about that omap bomb you mention.. I have had the razor maxx for about 5 months now and i can assure you will love it.. Well at least i do
I have it on ics stock with frequent CM10 booting so you can rest assured that you can relatively safely mess with it
There is a rom installer called Safestrap 3.05 that is probably the best thing ever
It bypass the bootloader by installing roms on a safesystem file that does not tamper with the stock system or bootloader. You can also load roms with custom kernels there
Hope you keepit ń
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As gierso says it is a great phone. I have had the Maxx since August.
Don't worry about the locked bootloader.
There is Safestrap as referenced above. It does not mess with the bootloader. For lack of a better term, it "hijacks" the boot process after the stock boot loader loads.
It will allow you to run multiple ROMS kind of like you can dual boot your computer into windows or linux if you wish.
I am running CM10 as a daily, but my factory ROM is still intact..
There are a few more problems on the Jelly Bean ROMs other than the camera. One is bluetooth. Mosst are minor. But with safestrap, if I need to take a video, I can reboot the phone into the stock ROM, take my video, and then boot back into CM10 and use the phone as normal.
You have not messed up. It is a great phone with the best battery life out there.
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Looking at swaping over to Verizon and debating the phones to get. Wondered what peeps are thinking of the new Razr? Is it "the" phone to get right now with verizon? looking for good battery life, connection, screen, all of that. I know they supposedly got Samsungs super molded (sp) screenn so it has much better quality and then that "gorilla" screen or what ever he called it, makes it tough to dmg...
figured see what you all thought...
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If you don't care about BL Unlock, it is a really, really, really good phone. At least I'm judging from my point of view on my RAZR (EU, not VZW).
If you care about it, I suggest you to wait for a while.
The VZW one 90% won't be unlocked, but the EU one should...or...well...in reality Moto said it already was, but they lied so it is locked and not unlockable, anyway probably the unlock will come with ICS (I repeat, ONLY UNBRANDED GSM/UMTS RAZR).
Or, anyway, I suggest you to not buy the GNex, just 'cause the ASUS PadFone is coming to the market. And it is a beast.
Hi guys.
I love Motorola, and I'm thinking on upgrading to a MAXX. But I have a few concerns. I live abroad so I need it to be GSM.
To my understandings, the ones who can take a Turbo SIM are GSM capable, am I right?
Also,
Is there a way to quickly recognize GSM ones? I'll buy it through ebay and I'm afraid I'll need to ask every seller just to make sure I don't buy the CDMA one.
I got a DROID 2 Global right now and it works wonders.
Is the battery life difference between and MAXX and normal Razr so huge that is worth the extra $100?
If you could have another phone other than MAXX, what would it be? (not S3 )
Kind a lot of question, but I can only change my phone yearly or so, so I need the best I can have.
The cdma RAZR with the verizon ICS update .211 has world capabilities, the GSM radio is accessible on it.
If you get a cdma one and its not updated yet, first check for update over wifi on it and if says up to date give it the middle finger then download matt's 1.7 utility and flash the .211 leak, its the same as ota,
If I could have another phone I would choose something like the droid 4. I kinda still miss my keyboard. But then again the RAZR's screen is larger, and OLED where the droid 4 is the old LCD pentile like on the bionic. (oled is pentile to but much less noticeable)
Just a note, I dont have a max, I have a regular RAZR that I want to maxx soon.
I would say that double battery life is definitely worth the $100, Im gona end up paying a extra $150, plus i got the razr on release so It was $300 then. $$$
A easy way to identify the GSM ones is the lack of the Verizon 4g LTE logo on the back. Also the official name on the GSM is Motorola RAZR, DROID RAZR is a registered trademark of Verizon I believe, maybe just the "Droid" part, not sure.
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The cdma RAZR with the verizon ICS update .211 has world capabilities, the GSM radio is accessible on it.
If you get a cdma one and its not updated yet, first check for update over wifi on it and if says up to date give it the middle finger then download matt's 1.7 utility and flash the .211 leak, its the same as ota,
If I could have another phone I would choose something like the droid 4. I kinda still miss my keyboard. But then again the RAZR's screen is larger, and OLED where the droid 4 is the old LCD pentile like on the bionic. (oled is pentile to but much less noticeable)
Just a note, I dont have a max, I have a regular RAZR that I want to maxx soon.
I would say that double battery life is definitely worth the $100, Im gona end up paying a extra $150, plus i got the razr on release so It was $300 then. $$$
A easy way to identify the GSM ones is the lack of the Verizon 4g LTE logo on the back. Also the official name on the GSM is Motorola RAZR, DROID RAZR is a registered trademark of Verizon I believe, maybe just the "Droid" part, not sure.
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That was very helpful man, thanks haha. But what you are saying is that it doesn't matter which one I get since I'll be able to use my SIM just by updating it? First time I hear something like that...what about the SIM slot? I don't think a CDMA phone will have one "just in case"...
Would you say that for 350 I should definitely get the MAXX? That's my budget and I know I can get one for that on ebay.
Many people still insisting I should get SII, but I want to believe Maxx is the better one...even though I'm fooling myself...
I just found out phones with bad ESN will work on GSM carriers.
Is that true?
Pretty sure that the XT912 is the model number of the CDMA (Verizon) RAZR and XT910 is the model number of the GSM one.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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The screen is better on the galaxy S2, fyi. The pentile on the RAZR really bothers me when viewing text. Hurts my eyes after only 5-10 minutes.
I recommend you spend some time with one before buying.
I'm looking forward to the RAZR HD.
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So in reading the latest news, I came across this article where Samsung states that Verizon specifically asked for a locked and encrypted bootloader for the new SGIII. In fact, the article stated they are the only carrier to ask for it.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ing-you-need-including-locked-bootloader.html
I know a lot of us feel like Motorola is not holding up their end of a promise, but perhaps it is a carrier-side issue. A little communication from Moto would help though.
I don't think it's any secret that it is the carriers that want locked boot loaders. Why would Motorola care one way or the other?
Wow, just wow. We got the only locked SG3.
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old news
thot this was old and not surprising news
verizon wants total control (monopoly and high prices)their excuse is people altering their phones can screw up their network....riiiight
i never blamed moto they only build what is ordered
And when I bought my phone unbranded and unlocked (international version) why is Motorola still locking my bootloader? I dont even live in the US.
Ya... no surprise vzw wants the bootloader locked! I think back to my evo on sprint... i had unlocked bootloader, and was able to use hotspot for free(sprint wants $30/mo) i was also able to flash full 3g verizon prl's.... what does that mean? I was able to use vzw towers 100% of the time roaming with full 3g data... that means sprint had to pay a lot of roaming fees, for me to try vzw's network b4 i actually made the plunge.... add that to the many other posibilities that an unlocked bootloader mames available, and i can see why they want a locked bootloader.
this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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thanks for the reply. but i am not just BLIND when I see there is very little development for the razr maxx?
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this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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Verizon phones are a little weird. The OG Motorola Droid was bootloader unlocked, as is the Motorola Xoom. HTC devices are typically locked but the bootloader can be unlocked (or bypassed) soon after released. At the end of 2011, HTC decided to unlocked all of their current phones (Thunderbolt, Rezound, etc). ALL Nexus' (any carrier / any Nexus) are unlocked. Google wont allow a Nexus device to be locked. Unfortunately a lot of other Samsung devices are locked. Hope that helps.
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My backup device is wifi only for a reason. I do not need verizon but for now the 1 line I have is good enough for all my phone needs and 69 bucks a month is about as cheap as you can get for a web phone.
The locked loader on the razr is an issue but rooted and an app turns on wifi tethering and works flawlessly, foxfi
they have a right to restrict but I will look to unlocked in the future, I expect to keep my razr for the forcible future. the battery in the maxx is no joke , 2 days using gps,wifi and data
As I said above I currently have a Droid X. My upgrade is up and I'm debating on whether or not to get the S3. I was really gun-ho about it until I heard of all the locked bootloader issues and thought "Oh boy it's the X all over again".
It is my understanding that currently what holds back the X is that it runs it's ICS roms on a gingerbread kernel which causes all sorts of lag and other issues. Being that the S3 is locked down, will it eventually hit this problem?
I mainly want a phone that's dev/manufacturer supported for at least two years, I can deal with the stock rom, but I've come to find that others are far superior. Will the S3 for Verizon be limited in it's roms because of the locked bootloader?
Basically it all comes down to should I get the S3 or wait?
PS~ Switching Carriers is not an option due to living in the middle of bum-f Egypt.
The bootloader i think has been unlocked...YES get the 32gb version of S3..its worth it..
I don't think that it is unlocked yet, there is a bounty on it though. I'm still skeptical. To add to the pressure of upgrading, my fiance wants to swap onto my current family plan to save an extra $40 a month.
What to do what to do.
I just wanted to say, I think our hard work with petitions and complaints along with the google buyout has finally turned the tables. We have possibly won the bootloader battle.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/motorola-to-allow-bootloader-unlocking-from-photon-q-4g-lte-on/
The photon Q will come out in august and be the first unlockable but the RAZR / MAXX will be unlockable soon after. This is amazing news I think, I have a feeling it has to do with the encription being nearly cracked and they decided to reduce the vulnreability and make it unlockable through them. And well admit it, we *****ed a lot about this.
Good news, but wait unlock before proclame victory
I doubt they'll allow older versions/handsets to unlock their bootloaders. Also you have to remember that Photon is releasing on Sprint so it is probably a deal they have made with the network thus allowing them to carry through with this. Regardless, I was hoping Motorola would live up to their targets of unlocking bootloaders and pushing the ICS updates out in their predicted timeframe. But looking at where we are now, I know well enough to take their announcements as a grain of sand and sadly this will be my first and last Motorola based Android device.
Beat me to it... I may not have my beloved RAZR anymore, but I wanted to share too...
http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...726/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
http://android-gz.com
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-starting-with-the-photon-q-26240460/
Here's another.
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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isn't the carrier unimportant if there's at least the retail version unlockable?
You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
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i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
They must be fool if they think that I will buy another moto phone just because of a "killer feature" like the unlocked bootloader... They screwed it with the Razr (and others) already and I will not support such company who thinks that everything must be as they said...-thats not what I am paying for. Thats the reason why I don't own an iphone and motorola's phones are next on this list...
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
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why should i buy a new phone if i've the ability to simply flash the retail version over it?
or is there something i didn't mention now?
It's only for the new phone :|
Man they should stop to mess up with their costumers
Anyway i'll not trust them until is real
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
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Motorola Xoom is GED
Just wanted to react to the topic name - no we didn't won but we probably completly lost it all because if motorola will provide unlocked bootloader for the upcoming phones there will be no reason for them to unlock old phones as its reasonable that they would want to sell as many new phones as possible and this "new feature" will help them...
If anyone can read the RAZR WILL be unlocked shortly after the new phone is released. This is because the DROID RAZR and DROID RAZR maxx are very popular phones. And Verizon doesn't want anyone complaining about the unlocked bootloader. So just get your panties out of a bunch and wait patiently until after August.
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Think about it a lot of people are still on their 2 year contract so people are not gonna want to pay full retail just to get an unlocked bootloader when they just got a new phone. If Verizon was smart they would give it to relatively new phones so customers come upgrading time will want a new phone. And won't jump ship to a new carrier.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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err, where did you read that?