So in reading the latest news, I came across this article where Samsung states that Verizon specifically asked for a locked and encrypted bootloader for the new SGIII. In fact, the article stated they are the only carrier to ask for it.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ing-you-need-including-locked-bootloader.html
I know a lot of us feel like Motorola is not holding up their end of a promise, but perhaps it is a carrier-side issue. A little communication from Moto would help though.
I don't think it's any secret that it is the carriers that want locked boot loaders. Why would Motorola care one way or the other?
Wow, just wow. We got the only locked SG3.
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old news
thot this was old and not surprising news
verizon wants total control (monopoly and high prices)their excuse is people altering their phones can screw up their network....riiiight
i never blamed moto they only build what is ordered
And when I bought my phone unbranded and unlocked (international version) why is Motorola still locking my bootloader? I dont even live in the US.
Ya... no surprise vzw wants the bootloader locked! I think back to my evo on sprint... i had unlocked bootloader, and was able to use hotspot for free(sprint wants $30/mo) i was also able to flash full 3g verizon prl's.... what does that mean? I was able to use vzw towers 100% of the time roaming with full 3g data... that means sprint had to pay a lot of roaming fees, for me to try vzw's network b4 i actually made the plunge.... add that to the many other posibilities that an unlocked bootloader mames available, and i can see why they want a locked bootloader.
this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
bigdookie said:
this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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thanks for the reply. but i am not just BLIND when I see there is very little development for the razr maxx?
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this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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Verizon phones are a little weird. The OG Motorola Droid was bootloader unlocked, as is the Motorola Xoom. HTC devices are typically locked but the bootloader can be unlocked (or bypassed) soon after released. At the end of 2011, HTC decided to unlocked all of their current phones (Thunderbolt, Rezound, etc). ALL Nexus' (any carrier / any Nexus) are unlocked. Google wont allow a Nexus device to be locked. Unfortunately a lot of other Samsung devices are locked. Hope that helps.
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My backup device is wifi only for a reason. I do not need verizon but for now the 1 line I have is good enough for all my phone needs and 69 bucks a month is about as cheap as you can get for a web phone.
The locked loader on the razr is an issue but rooted and an app turns on wifi tethering and works flawlessly, foxfi
they have a right to restrict but I will look to unlocked in the future, I expect to keep my razr for the forcible future. the battery in the maxx is no joke , 2 days using gps,wifi and data
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Is it even possible to force a locked encrypted bootloader open? Is anyone trying this? I'd hate to see such a great phone be so limited due to this locked bootloader bs,not to mention there are more and more being locked up tight. Gotta get this sucker opened up!!!
Easy way to make sure Motorola sends devices with unlocked bootloader is to REFUSE to buy any motorola devices until unlocked. Enough said. So come on everyone. Return all those Razr's and lets force motorolas hand.
can anyone tell me how you know if you have a locked bootloader or not? i have a Razr xt910 from Claropr and i want to check this. thanks! my Razr came in a red motorola box with car charger and hdmi cable included.
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prking07 said:
can anyone tell me how you know if you have a locked bootloader or not? i have a Razr xt910 from Claropr and i want to check this. thanks! my Razr came in a red motorola box with car charger and hdmi cable included.
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Boot into fastboot plug your phone into the computer and type
Fastboot oem unlock
On unlockable RAZR it will say something like unlock disabled
Might be different if phone is unlockable
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All locked until ICS update.
idle0095 said:
Easy way to make sure Motorola sends devices with unlocked bootloader is to REFUSE to buy any motorola devices until unlocked. Enough said. So come on everyone. Return all those Razr's and lets force motorolas hand.
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Lmao.
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Now is that going to be a carrier option or is Moto going to make it RAZR wide.
It's carrier-dependent, and the rumor is that Verizon said no to it. We still have hope though, in methods similar to the Atrix.. But that's after ICS.
Why is it dependant on ICS??
fastboot oem unlock is disabled, meaning the bootloader is off limits until Moto starts unlocking international RAZRs (which is coming with ICS according to them) and we have that to use as reference.
I'm on INTL Retail RAZR so, no problem for me, but anyway...
....we should see the signatures on our RAZRs, if Verizon RAZR's signatures are the same, it will be possible to flash EU bootloader on VZW RAZR.
It's only a matter of time, but prior talking I(we) should have something in our hands for working (like FXZ/SBF).
i learned my lesson with the droid x even though i love the design of the razr my arsenal of phones are enough to keep me from upgrading my verizon line until the edge or something worth it comes out but good luck to your battles and may it get unlocked sooner then later
i love razr very much,but it said that 912's 3g do not work in china.
can this problem be workout when the ICS come?
sorry for my poor english
@calvin1731
Strange. The RAZR supports all the human known GSM/UMTS/HSPA frequencies.
Go check on MOTODEV, there's listed all phones' capabilities: if you find your operator's frequency on RAZR specs then there isn't any reason for it to not work.
@kholk
i use cdma network,so i must choose verzion razr.
but is said that verzion razr is locked,so it could not use evdo 3g and there isn't a chinese Language rom.
I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day.
HTC, Samsung etc has a lot more leverage and money.
Since Moto was on the brink of bancrupcy for a long time, I guess they signed some panic-treaty.
The rest of the world isn't getting the 4g razr either.
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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That was what I have been reading on some other forums.
milf33 said:
I thought it's going to be unlocked after ICS update?
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How long after, a year two years?
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I don't know how to say this in a correct manor so I hope I don't get banned for this [email protected]#$ Motorola! I am serious pissed with Motorola now.
I feel lied to...even though they didn't promise anything they said they intended to unlock bootloaders late this year....well there are now 2 days left in the year....how much later can they wait?
I know they said "with carrier approval" well apparently VZW for one approves as the Galaxy Nexus has an unlockable bootloader and now this thread comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
am I missing something here? Or were we decieved....again
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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You are confused and you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs. Motorola NEVER promised you or any of us it would unlock the bootloaders. If you can find where they did, I would love to be proven wrong.
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
Now, if there's one thing we all know about Moto, it's that they're terrible with dates. So if you're looking forward to it, don't expect it until the ICS update, because I doubt they will make an update just for the sake of unlocking bootloaders. They originally DID say that ICS was coming later this year, after all. I don't know if they'll fight for it as hard as Google/HTC did to get Verizon to agree with them, though. The way they have it worded is very... laid-back sounding. Kind of more like a "hey is this okay? no? alright we won't do that" approach
"It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it."
thats not a promise just a statement :/
Agreed.
Unlocking bootloader is a simple thing. Knowing Moto's track record and their laxness on this phone, how can we believe that ICS is even going to come this year, if at all?
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If an unlocked bootloader is so important to you, I would seriously take your Moto phone back to the store and get the Nexus.
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Thanks for the advice....that is exactly what I did
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I googled for less than a minute. Do research yourself next time, okay?
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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like I said....nexus and now all HTC devices are being unlocked.....only Motorola's are not
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Apparently Verizon won't let Motorola unlock their phones.
Someone probably signed a really crappy contract back in the day
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Then care to explain why the Motorola milestone was encrypted, while the Droid wasn't? I can count the number of un-encrypted devices that Motorola has released...worldwide with one hand.
If Verizon is against unlocked bootloaders then why are they allowing the galaxy nexus on their network? Or allowing HTC to unlock their devices?
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"... where operator and channel partners will allow it"
THAT MEANS it's completely up to Verizon.
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It's more corporate laziness than actually the carriers decision. Honestly, Motorola must be hiding something in their phones to be so uptight about unlocking the bootloader.
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I really dont get why people complains about Motorola. As I know the decision to get this phone its our, Im agree with you in the idea that Motorola its making a really mistake blocking the bootloader but as I tell you before the decision its yours. Simply dont get the phone.
I am strongly considering this phone as a sidegrade to my GS2. The lure of unthinkable battery life is making it very tempting. I just cant go back to GB. I know the ICS rollout is set for "end of Q2", but on Moto's support page it only makes reference to the USA. Since the GSM version is not a USA phone, what chances will I have of getting an official OTA anytime soon? I researched this, but it seams that there are not many of these devices currently being used in the US. Does anyone have any info to help with my decision or am I just best off waiting until its officially official?
Thank you.
Read the forums. Seems like the ICS upgrade is imminent for Latin America and coming for EU/Asia.
Is there actually a US spec GSM RAZR, or are you importing from overseas?
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Negri is selling an unlocked version that is compatible with ATT bands. Definitely an import.
Actually, there are GSM/UMTS radios in the Verizon Razr MAXX that have recently been enabled.
There's an article in PCWorld that I can't link too that I'm too much of a n00b to be able to post...
(pcworld dot com slash article/258233/verizon_gives_motorola_lte_razrs_their_gsm_wings.html)
I too would be interested if an unlocked Verizon Razr MAXX could be used on AT&T. garment69, have you had any luck? Did you make a decision?
Valashtar said:
I too would be interested if an unlocked Verizon Razr MAXX could be used on AT&T. garment69, have you had any luck? Did you make a decision?
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It is probably locked to Vodafones SIMs.
Unlock? Attractive...
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It is probably locked to Vodafones SIMs.
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According to this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569055 the ICS update for the RAZR apparently unlocks the SIM slot.
Some further work may be required, as indicated by this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3 (scroll down to read the last two posts)
I just wanted to say, I think our hard work with petitions and complaints along with the google buyout has finally turned the tables. We have possibly won the bootloader battle.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/motorola-to-allow-bootloader-unlocking-from-photon-q-4g-lte-on/
The photon Q will come out in august and be the first unlockable but the RAZR / MAXX will be unlockable soon after. This is amazing news I think, I have a feeling it has to do with the encription being nearly cracked and they decided to reduce the vulnreability and make it unlockable through them. And well admit it, we *****ed a lot about this.
Good news, but wait unlock before proclame victory
I doubt they'll allow older versions/handsets to unlock their bootloaders. Also you have to remember that Photon is releasing on Sprint so it is probably a deal they have made with the network thus allowing them to carry through with this. Regardless, I was hoping Motorola would live up to their targets of unlocking bootloaders and pushing the ICS updates out in their predicted timeframe. But looking at where we are now, I know well enough to take their announcements as a grain of sand and sadly this will be my first and last Motorola based Android device.
Beat me to it... I may not have my beloved RAZR anymore, but I wanted to share too...
http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...726/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
http://android-gz.com
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-starting-with-the-photon-q-26240460/
Here's another.
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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Leviathan26 said:
They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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isn't the carrier unimportant if there's at least the retail version unlockable?
You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
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i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
They must be fool if they think that I will buy another moto phone just because of a "killer feature" like the unlocked bootloader... They screwed it with the Razr (and others) already and I will not support such company who thinks that everything must be as they said...-thats not what I am paying for. Thats the reason why I don't own an iphone and motorola's phones are next on this list...
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
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why should i buy a new phone if i've the ability to simply flash the retail version over it?
or is there something i didn't mention now?
It's only for the new phone :|
Man they should stop to mess up with their costumers
Anyway i'll not trust them until is real
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
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Motorola Xoom is GED
Just wanted to react to the topic name - no we didn't won but we probably completly lost it all because if motorola will provide unlocked bootloader for the upcoming phones there will be no reason for them to unlock old phones as its reasonable that they would want to sell as many new phones as possible and this "new feature" will help them...
If anyone can read the RAZR WILL be unlocked shortly after the new phone is released. This is because the DROID RAZR and DROID RAZR maxx are very popular phones. And Verizon doesn't want anyone complaining about the unlocked bootloader. So just get your panties out of a bunch and wait patiently until after August.
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Think about it a lot of people are still on their 2 year contract so people are not gonna want to pay full retail just to get an unlocked bootloader when they just got a new phone. If Verizon was smart they would give it to relatively new phones so customers come upgrading time will want a new phone. And won't jump ship to a new carrier.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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err, where did you read that?
My contract with Sprint is going to be up soon and, sadly, I am moving on to a different device. Although my Photon was a great device the unfulfilled promises from Moto/Sprint and lack of a trouble free ROM above Gingerbread leaves me no other suitable option but to upgrade. Tie that to the fact that I have moved to an area where Sprint service barely exists and my P4G's fate is sealed.
That said, everyone here in the Photon forums will be missed. There are some very talented dev's here that I owe a great amount of Thanks to. Loki, th3bill, jokersax and so many others made it possible to unlock much of my device's potential. If only Moto would have coughed up what they promised the Photon would have truly been a formitable device for anyone to reckon with.
Anyone have suggestions on the best place to list a near mint Photon4G with an unlockable bootloader? I'm sure it could possibly be of some use to a devloper somewhere.
(Mods please don't delete, I am not trying to sell here. Just want to know the best place to list.)
I got a Photon Q used for $100. No LTE here yet, but was able to Unlock bootloader and running CM10.2
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I got a Photon Q used for $100. No LTE here yet, but was able to Unlock bootloader and running CM10.2
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Sounds like a good deal. For me I'm going to Big Red, Sprint has no local service here (only roaming) and everyone else is either more $$ or bad service (did a lot of research). So I gave in and am getting the GS4.
The Moto X will be available soon on Verizon.
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The Moto X will be available soon on Verizon.
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But will it be rootable and romable??
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Sounds like a good deal. For me I'm going to Big Red, Sprint has no local service here (only roaming) and everyone else is either more $$ or bad service (did a lot of research). So I gave in and am getting the GS4.
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I switched to ATT for the same reasons you're talking about Verizon. I also got the S4 and I LOVE it. It has the best battery life of any phone I have ever had, bar none. I bought two extra batteries and a charger, as I always do when I get a new phone, it's been two months now, and I have yet to use them. One day I got the battery down to 17%, but otherwise, never below 30%, and I do use the phone a lot. I don't miss my Moto phones at all. Never again. Regarding selling your phone, I think they promote swappa around here. You could always use craigslist too. But if you're in a position to consider it, as I was, think about donating to one of the developers. I donated my phone and honestly hope some good has come of it.
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The Moto X will be available soon on Verizon.
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For me, I cannot think of a phone I want LESS than this moto phone. They used to have better radios but I don't think that's true anymore. My S4 works everywhere I've needed it. No dropped calls, 4G service that's much better than Sprints service, and we had 4G LTE here in Houston. Step away from the moto addiction, you won't be sorry you did. There is GOOD life without moto, and Punit Soni doesn't need your buisness, trust me on that. That guy has deluded himself about his honesty and ethics, to the point that he doesn't even realize he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
I agree with the sentiments expressed on the development here, and the community that was built. It was the friendliest, most helpful group of people I'd ever been around bar none. I miss that a lot, but I haven't missed the photon for 5 minutes. Well, I kind of missed it while I used the Galaxy Nexus I bought off ebay for six months, that thing had horrible battery life, but otherwise was an equivalent phone. Since I've had the S4, not missed the photon for a minute.
Thanks retailguy, you're the second person that has told me good things about the GS4. Hopefully I'll get the MDK build instead of ME7 when I pick it up this week.
I'm ditching smartphones completely and moving to the Omate TrueSmart. If I'm going to loose Ubuntu for Android functionality I see no reason for me to waste my money on a smartphone.
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But will it be rootable and romable??
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Most likely. Motorola has built a website to unlock the bootloader. But beware, the moment you use it, your warranty will be voided.
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Thanks retailguy, you're the second person that has told me good things about the GS4. Hopefully I'll get the MDK build instead of ME7 when I pick it up this week.
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Truthfully, I don't know which build I even have. Other than access to wireless tethering, and removing the ATT bloat, I see no reason to even root the phone. It's THAT good.
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Most likely. Motorola has built a website to unlock the bootloader. But beware, the moment you use it, your warranty will be voided.
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Moto may have built the site but I have read in many places that VZW does not support or allow unlockable BL's from the mfg's.
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Moto may have built the site but I have read in many places that VZW does not support or allow unlockable BL's from the mfg's.
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Yep, you're right. Not having Verizon, I forgot about that. Unless someone finds an exploit, the bootloader will stay locked. And considering that no one has found an exploit for the Photon, it's doubtful that anyone will find one for the X. Personally, I believe that's why Motorola never unlocked the photon bootloader, it was their unofficial "test" to see if the community could defeat their security. But, I've also been accused of being a bit paranoid too.
You must be talking about the Photon Q. I remember reading that before it was released. The Photon 4G was put out with an unlockable bootloader. That was the reason I picked one up. Mine runs CM10.2. I really like the features that Cyanogenmod puts into their ROMs. That's why I'm hoping to get the MDK build. If I do CM will be on my GS4 in a matter of hours.
If you are on Verizon or AT&T, expect every phone you buy to be locked down tighter than Fort Knox. To the people looking for the MDK build of the S4, YOU WILL NOT FIND IT. YOUR PHONE WILL BE PERMALOCKED OOB. The turnover was brutally fast, and 99.9% of all new units after the OTA were shipped with ME7 pre-installed. That's for both carriers. Unless you buy used or can verify that it wasn't updated. My friend has the AT&T one, and I keep telling him that I feel his pain haha.
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There is going to be a Verizon developer edition Moto X with an unlocked bootloader out of the box.
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You must be talking about the Photon Q. I remember reading that before it was released. The Photon 4G was put out with an unlockable bootloader. That was the reason I picked one up. Mine runs CM10.2. I really like the features that Cyanogenmod puts into their ROMs. That's why I'm hoping to get the MDK build. If I do CM will be on my GS4 in a matter of hours.
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Motorola pushed an update that locked the bootloader. Anyone who had 2.3.4 and accepted that update got a present of a locked bootloader that no one has been able to defeat. My understanding is if you got 2.3.5 from the factory you did not have this problem. Only those who participated in the soak test have locked bootloaders.
You must have a factory 2.3.5 phone, or one that originally had 2.3.4 and was not updated as part of the soak test.
Koopa777 said:
If you are on Verizon or AT&T, expect every phone you buy to be locked down tighter than Fort Knox. To the people looking for the MDK build of the S4, YOU WILL NOT FIND IT. YOUR PHONE WILL BE PERMALOCKED OOB. The turnover was brutally fast, and 99.9% of all new units after the OTA were shipped with ME7 pre-installed. That's for both carriers. Unless you buy used or can verify that it wasn't updated. My friend has the AT&T one, and I keep telling him that I feel his pain haha.
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Wow. This is surprising and disappointing, but truthfully, I haven't even thought about unlocking the bootloader on this phone. The stock rom does everything I want it to do, and since it's the most popular Samsung phone out there , it'll probably be supported longer than I care to use it. It will affect what I buy next time, the whole locked bootloader really ticks me off, but c'est la vie. I will survive. At least they didn't lock it during a soak test and take functionality away from me. I stupidly didn't investigate before I bought the phone. Won't do that again...
retailguy said:
Motorola pushed an update that locked the bootloader. Anyone who had 2.3.4 and accepted that update got a present of a locked bootloader that no one has been able to defeat. My understanding is if you got 2.3.5 from the factory you did not have this problem. Only those who participated in the soak test have locked bootloaders.
You must have a factory 2.3.5 phone, or one that originally had 2.3.4 and was not updated as part of the soak test.
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Could be. My understanding is if you have 2.3.4 you can unlock. If you have 2.3.5 you cannot unlock, regardless of how you got it. Root is still obtainable either way.