I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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Samsung's the single source for the LCD panel. If there are big variations between them it's because the tolerances on the production line are off and their slipping through QC. Some deviation from panel-to-panel is normal. If you put three SGS3's side-by-side each will have a slight variation in temperature. But what you're describing doesn't sound slight.
BamAlmighty said:
I ordered a replacement N10, because of back flex and got it today.
Not only is the back flex worse, the screen looks worse. Compared to my original N10 the replacement looks duller. My original N10 by far looks more vibrant while the replacement has a noticeable warmer and duller color temp.
Back the replacement goes... I will live with the back flex. I really don't want to play exchange roulette like I did with the nexus 7. Those of you considering exchanging your Nexus might want to consider you might get a worse one.
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I think I had a similar issue to you, but for the better.
My replacement arrived yesterday as my original device had bad back flexing
The new one has a much more vibrant and brighter screen than the old one (the autobrightness seems to react much faster and ramps the brightness more appropriately)
The replacement came shipped with build JVP15L, so I had to two updates, one to JOP20C and then again to JOP20D, weird huh?
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so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
This is somewhat good news as I seem to have a warmer screen and also suffer from light bleed so I'm probably going to get it exchanged. Hoping I get a replacement with a neutral or cooler screen. neutral or cooler toned screens tend to have better contrast for some reason vs the warmer screens.
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so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
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Yeah my first device had quite severe bleed in 3 corners, but my replacement has ever the slightest amount in the bottom corner, but its really not noticeable, even on a black background, so I'm gonna keep this one
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so your telling me you got two devices without light bleed? I can't even get one out of them.
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First unit which I kept has very little light bleed, nothing significant. The replacement had horrible light bleed, there were light streaks coming from the lower right corner.
Other than back flex, I am happy with my N10's screen.
I thought the same about my device but then I turned my brightness up and took it off automatic brightness. I can hardly believe that the difference is that stark between the two units
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Back flex????
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Back flex????
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Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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It is considered a defect because normally the internal components should touch the inside of the casing, so there is no cavity between the two and therefore no flexing when pressed .
In the case of the flexing units, the casing is bowed ever so slightly outwards, thus creating a cavity, so the casing flexes inwards up until it touches the components inside.
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It is considered a defect because normally the internal components should touch the inside of the casing, so there is no cavity between the two and therefore no flexing when pressed .
In the case of the flexing units, the casing is bowed ever so slightly outwards, thus creating a cavity, so the casing flexes inwards up until it touches the components inside.
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Is it actually a "bow" or is it just an air gap between the battery and the back? Mine flexes when I press it, and makes a "click" like glue forcibly coming unstuck when I release.
It's hardly the end of the world though. I'd never have realised it until it was mentioned on XDA because I'm not heavy handed enough to go squeezing it, nor would I have had cause to "press" hard on the back of it while it's lying face down.
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Is it actually a "bow" or is it just an air gap between the battery and the back? Mine flexes when I press it, and makes a "click" like glue forcibly coming unstuck when I release.
It's hardly the end of the world though. I'd never have realised it until it was mentioned on XDA because I'm not heavy handed enough to go squeezing it, nor would I have had cause to "press" hard on the back of it while it's lying face down.
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Mine was both, a bowing which caused an air gap. It didn't click at all, just flexed even when i was just holding it as the bowing was greatest directly underneath where you place your fingers. If i looked edge onto the tablet from the top, the bowing was apparent.
Figured seeing as i'm paying for it, wanted a perfect device and Google were happy to replace it, why not get it replaced?
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Mine was both, a bowing which caused an air gap. It didn't click at all, just flexed even when i was just holding it as the bowing was greatest directly underneath where you place your fingers. If i looked edge onto the tablet from the top, the bowing was apparent.
Figured seeing as i'm paying for it, wanted a perfect device and Google were happy to replace it, why not get it replaced?
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Indeed, why not. I would have done the same thing.
joke
Now all of you shut up, before I go poking around mine any more and realise I'm not happy with it and end up sending it back for replacement :laugh:
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I feel bad for you people searching for the perfect device. Chances are, the people on their 3-4-5th return are never going to be satisfied, and the devices they returned would most likely have been perfect for someone else. Having OCD about a mechanically flawless techno-gadget is like a Heroin addict chasing the dragon.
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TheEmpyre said:
Yeah if you push hard enough on the back of your device it will dimple inward. I can't really see in my mind why this is considered even remotely a functional defect lol. This just in: plastic flexes when you push on it
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Shocking news. This flex thing is like that old joke -
Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this. (Patient flexes a joint.)
Doctor: Then don't do that.
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I feel bad for you people searching for the perfect device. Chances are, the people on their 3-4-5th return are never going to be satisfied, and the devices they returned would most likely have been perfect for someone else. Having OCD about a mechanically flawless techno-gadget is like a Heroin addict chasing the dragon.
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I wonder how much cheaper our gadgets would be if hordes of people on XDA didn't RMA 5-6 times because they go actively looking for defects they wouldn't notice otherwise?
I've been thinking about this all day. My N10 has some ripples around the detachable rear cover that I hadn't noticed until looking at the photos in this thread. Is it obvious when I show it to others? No. Does it affect operation in any way? No. Have my fingers ever felt the ripples as I use it or rotate viewing mode? No.
So why are the cosmetics such a big deal to some and not others? Obiously some rate the appearance of the device to be more important than what it does. I know I'm going to get flamed big-time for this, but worship of form over function seems to be a common trait of the Apple crowd. I truly appreciate beauty, but not so much in a tool. I used an iPad for a year and always felt like I was using a fine watch: attractive, but not adaptable to what I wanted to do. Those of us that value function more will probably never understand the other way of thinking.
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Mine has ZERO light bleed and I know all about that. I use to own 3 Infinity's and that's because the first two had intolerable light bleed the third I just lived with.
I'm guessing google sacrificed build quality so they could keep prices down -- Dont really understand why it is important for your device to "look" cool when the purpose of the device is media consumption / productivity. Besides, I would bet upwards of 60% of consumers get a case for their device...whats the point of that back-flex when you have a hard shell case?
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I was just wondering if anybody else has an issue with loose glass panel towards the edges of your asus transformer prime? In particular folks who just purchased one. There is about a 1/4" of play mostly at the top/left side of the screen around the volume rocker and to a lesser extent on the right side. It's not a lot, but noticable since that's right where you normally hold it.
I already exchanged it for another one at Office Depot, and this new one has the exact same issue. I can't imagine this would be "normal." Maybe just a defective batch? In either case, I haven't noticed any other issues in the 2 days I had the first one.
They both started with S/N# C30KAS...
C1O from office depot reporting in. Have the exact same issue, right out of the box. My case does make it unnoticeable, though. I'd hate to have to rma it for this.
It is not normal. There are little hatches which hold glass to the frame. If they are broken (they are very thin, I guess they can easily be broken on assembly line) there is no way to fix it apart from taking it apart completely and putting some double sided tape. I would, and did, return it.
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There is about a 1/4" of play mostly at the top/left side of the screen around the volume rocker
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Do you realize how much that is? (I assume you mean a quarter inch)
I would just return it.
Yes, it's about a quarter inch. Unfortunately it seems as though these 2 were the last in stock... anywhere. But that's kind of what I thought; just seemed odd to have 2 in a row like that. I guess I'll play with it for a few more days to make sure I still like the TF201 in general and return it later (within the return window). Or maybe if they get a new batch in... exchange it again.
I like to see a picture of this. Quarter inch is really massive.
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I like to see a picture of this. Quarter inch is really massive.
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Yeah, it wasn't good, but it's returned now. Although this 2nd one isn't nearly as bad. In fact, it's only loose on the right side. This is probably closer to an 1/8". So it's doesn't go above the outter bezel.
But I guess the question is whether folks consider any play whatsoever acceptable, normal, or something they even care about. In particular if it's in a case. Not to mention the concern that it might get worse or seperate completely.
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Yeah, it wasn't good, but it's returned now. Although this 2nd one isn't nearly as bad. In fact, it's only loose on the right side. This is probably closer to an 1/8". So it's doesn't go above the outter bezel.
But I guess the question is whether folks consider any play whatsoever acceptable, normal, or something they even care about. In particular if it's in a case. Not to mention the concern that it might get worse or seperate completely.
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On a good unit there is no play. Actually, there is, but it's so small that you have to be looking for it and even then you'd struggle to find it.
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Had it on a C0 along with light bleed and lint inside the glass...return it 2 days later. Talk about QC...
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Hmm, maybe I'm just being more picky given the much worse amount of seperation I had with the first device. So here is a quick video I just shot with my phone. Not the best quality, but maybe you guys with "good" primes can let me know what ya think.
Edit: Embed didn't work, so here is the private link.
http://youtu.be/xV6IE16Dj2o?hd=1
I'm having the exact same problem, mine also makes an audible "squeek" when pressed, and the compression is definitely visible. The difference though is that mine came back repaired from when I sent it out for RMA, not a replacement. I'll be getting on the phone tonight with them, as the screen is now also starting to display Mura (which it was sent in for the first time I RMA'd it.), and the screen bleed is getting notibly worse to the point where it is very annoying.
mine is also loose in the upper left hand corner area when held in landscape.
On mine there's still lots of areas I can press down but its under 1mm.
I'm more bummed about dust I now see under the screen. Doesn't Apple laminate the lcd to the screen? Wish Asus done it.
i have the same issue. My wife noticed it and I decided that I could live with it.
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To me, this is not a defect. It's definitely an imperfection, but it's not a defect.
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To me, this is not a defect. It's definitely an imperfection, but it's not a defect.
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I see it kinda the same way... I only notice it from time to time in landscape mode. But sometimes I have to test the whole side to find the spot again.
I'm having a really great time with the device, can't think about returning it for for this imperfection.
I've got the same problem albeit the flex is very small.
Well, I decided to at least order a MoKo folio cover case and see if that minor flex is still going to be an issue for me or not. I already don't like the way it feels carrying it around by itself. The edges make it feel somewhat awkward and uncomfortable. So maybe the case is all it needs. Because other than that, I haven't found any other issues, yet.
Hi guys,
My Nexus 10's back, on the left side when facing the screen, has a slight creak to it when pressed. Does anybody else's have this (it can be slightly hard to find at first)? I'm curious, as I'm not sure if there is a DIY way to fix it, and whether or not it is a common occurrence.
I get a click or two from the removable strip but I assume that is just it moving in its seating. Very minor and not a problem. I ignore it.
Yeah, I have that, too. Nothing seems to indicate that the cover is loose somehow, though. Seems to me that it's just the rubber. I wouldn't worry about it. Of course, I wouldn't go choking it there, either.
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I too get a "Crack Sound" or creak when I grab my tablet from the left side.
Mine is same although my removable strip actually has a probg yhat won't go it so it juts out... Very annoying but I have a case.
So, besides the creaking sound (which doesn't bother me too much), my back actually has two "bubbles" where the back material meets the dimpled strip, and when you look at the tablet top-down, you can actually see the two gaps where the rubbery material is lifted up higher than the dimpled strip. The "bubbles" are basically directly above the "N" and "S"...
I'm assuming this isn't normal and should probably go get an exchange at the store, right?
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My left rear has a little more give than the right. Otherwise, the build is clean and sturdy. Did hear a noise once when i was gripping it at a funny angle. Of course if I grip my Vivid wrong the rear plate falls off and the battery even drops out at times. Overall I am very happy with the construction of my nexus10.
like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998388
I got my N10 yesterday and I found two problems.
1. The back is really loos. If I press in the middle of the back cover it wobbles and make click sound.
2. There is some light bleeding at the bottom right corner of the screen.
Are these things normal? Or should I exchange it.
shahidhussain said:
I got my N10 yesterday and I found two problems.
1. The back is really loos. If I press in the middle of the back cover it wobbles and make click sound.
2. There is some light bleeding at the bottom right corner of the screen.
Are these things normal? Or should I exchange it.
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The back is fine. As far as light bleed, it's a common problem. How bad it is depends on how much it bothers you.
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The back is fine. As far as light bleed, it's a common problem. How bad it is depends on how much it bothers you.
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I got exchange.
i get some slight play in the back but compared to the note 10.1, this thing is build like a rock
I received my Nexus 10 at the end of January and have just ordered a replacement...
The creaking and cracking from both sides of the back (directly behind the speakers) is horrendous when I gently squeeze the nexus, for example to lift it - I can usually just ignore these little things, but this is just too bad!
I have a Galaxy Nexus and I love it...the build quality is superb and the fact the Nexus 10 isn't up to the same standard is disappointing.
I will upload a YouTube video to demonstrate it...as I've not seen or heard anyone having creaking this bad...
When I receive my replacement, I'll update this topic. The only saving grace was the Google RMA process was flawless IMO.
CASES
I used to get it too but i figured out a way to fix it. Wanna know how? lol Get a nice smart case by Poetic or another brand you prefer. I know theres a thread designated for all the accessories for nexus 10.
but check out this website and pick what you like. - nexus 10 accessories . com
Hey guys, so it seems I have a near perfect HTC One, where I even don't have that gap at the top, but I do however have on the left side near the top left corner a small manufacturing defect that leaves about 2-3mm of the LCD edging out a bit making it feel as if brushing against a sharp ruler on that spot. I rarely have my hand there to really feel that defect through natural use of the phone and certainly not visible unless specifically looking for the LCD edge line very very closely, my concern is if I go in and swap the phone that the swapped phone will have other things wrong with it.
Should I bother replacing? I have no experience replacing/exchanging the same exact phone for a better build quality so this is why I ask.
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
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raqball said:
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
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By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
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I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
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I don't think their parts are manufactured to a tolerance small enough. It should be down to about 0.001" instead of around 0.003".
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I don't think it's any secret that HTC has a few QC problems to correct..
The normal user would probably never notice to be honest. We are the 1% that are hardcore users and notice everything.
Most people open the box, turn it on, and don't even arrange their icons never mind tinker..
None of the 3 I had were serious flaws that a normal user would even notice..
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True.
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By your descriptions this phone's QC sounds like a piece of ****.
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It was the same with the One X unfortunately.
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raqball said:
It's a roll of the dice..
My original pre-order was almost mint but had a similar / minor flaw. I called AT&T and they sent me a replacement..
The replacement they sent had a more brown'ish looking screen and the backlit buttons were very dim. It also had a small gap on the top.
I kept the original and sent back the replacement that had just arrived.
I then went to an AT&T store and the replacement he brought out had some flaw where the backlit buttons would only turn on if it was pitch dark. I refused that replacement and still have my original pre-order One.
If you have one that's close to mint and it only has a minor flaw, I'd keep it..
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Thanks for sharing your experience, definitely going to stick with this one then considering the hassle and very low probability of finding that "perfect" One.
Also, I want to clarify that the phone is absolutely stunning every time I pick it up and am impressed and excited by it just as I was when watching videos or reviews for it before its release while waiting for my preorder. I've had it since the 18th and certainly not bored with it, which goes to show for something I think. These minor QC issues aren't even noticed by the larger majority, as said in previous post.
Thanks guys/gals, my nerves are calmed about exchanging it
So I'm asking this because I'm planning on returning my nexus 9 tomorrow and getting a replacement, because I have the following
Light bleed
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
crappy buttons on the side
The back creaks slightly
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
J
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So I'm asking this because I'm planning on returning my nexus 9 tomorrow and getting a replacement, because I have the following
Light bleed
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
crappy buttons on the side
The back creaks slightly
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
J
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I suggest you to wait. As far as I know it's a matter of luck of getting a device with none of the known defects. Older and younger builds do have defects.
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Although I brought my mine in December, I guess I got a crappy unit
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LOL, characteristic of LCD. Get used to it -- they ALL do it. If you don't like it, your ONLY option is LED.
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
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Turn down the brightness. Its a big screen, the brighter its set, the less the life. And 5 hours screen on is HUGE.
crappy buttons on the side
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I quite like the buttons on these things, bit harder to press so you have to really mean it. Nexus 7 is a problem because it is too easy to accidentally bump the buttons.
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So quit twisting it.
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
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Definitely not worth returning. All you do by returning, is make the next version more expensive for the rest of us by costing HTC and Google for your pointless warranty claim.
I did return it and got a decent unit
J
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LOL, characteristic of LCD. Get used to it -- they ALL do it. If you don't like it, your ONLY option is LED.
Turn down the brightness. Its a big screen, the brighter its set, the less the life. And 5 hours screen on is HUGE.
I quite like the buttons on these things, bit harder to press so you have to really mean it. Nexus 7 is a problem because it is too easy to accidentally bump the buttons.
So quit twisting it.
Definitely not worth returning. All you do by returning, is make the next version more expensive for the rest of us by costing HTC and Google for your pointless warranty claim.
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Are you ****ing kidding me here? Ya let's let ALL these issues go, so the NEXT tablet that comes out is an even bigger piece of **** with more problems because people like you let them get away with it.
Let me ask you this, should we accept ALL light bleed as OK no matter how bad, or is there a cutoff at some point where its no longer acceptable? Right off the bat I'll tell you youre wrong because they don't ALL do it. I just returned a nexus 9 that had next to 0 light bleed. I've never, not once in my life exchanged a device for any reason. Never. But im on my 4th nexus 9, 2 of which had almost no light bleed at all. My last ones screen flickered so bad and the speakers froze and cut in and out so much I couldn't deal with it anymore, which was number 2 nexus 9. Open the new one tonight in the parking lot and boot it. Horrendous lightbleed and volume buttons that were literally ****ing recessed into the frame. I don't know about you, but I'm not a god damn woman so I don't have fingernails to reach a recessed button, and I for damn sure ain't carrying around a ****ing paperclip to adjust the volume on a tablet. So I exchange it. Get nexus 9 #4. Buttons stick out of frame perfectly. Completely different from the one i just had in my hands. But that's not a quality control issue to you. I should have kept the one that had unpressable volume buttons so you won't have to pay more for your next tablet. Too ****ing bad buddy. I'll return EVERY single piece of **** I get, and GLADY pay more for the next version if I don't need a paper clip to adjust the volume, Dramamine for the constant screen flicker, and a speaker that actually plays sound.
Yes or no is this acceptable light bleed?
And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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I've got the same thing. Plus, the microphone seems to have issues (sensitivity is so low, that it won't hear any "okay google" unless i really scream at it, for instance)! I would return it, but i am too afraid i might get an even worse unit.
Turns out HTC and Google really messed everything up with this one. I guess i was lucky to end up with a yellow-tinted Nexus 9 because, according to all people's reports, that might just be the best hardware version of it! With that in mind, I've never been so unsatisfied about a purchase before. I've always accepted some minor issues as i don't believe there are perfect devices, but i've never heard about so many different and major issues, especially for a tablet of this price. Not even to mention about the software issues, so far. This is just rediculous!
Huh ...
My new Sand model arrived with no issues out of the box ... excellent build quality, no issues with colors in the screen, and no bleeding backlight.
Where are y'all buying these things with all these issues?
I ordered mine directly off the play store.
I bought mine from Expansys (Europe). It's a pretty late batch (HTC4CC, which I think means December) therefore no back bending, no deep volume buttons and normal lightbleed for an LCD. But the fact that there are still issues and the quality of such an expensive tablet is questionable enough to make you stick with a yellowish screen, is really depressing. Anyway, I am really glad yours is perfect and I hope next batches manage to be as good as this tablet should be, but that doesn't change the fact that HTC and Google really dropped the ball on this one.
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And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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Your image is designed to exaggerate a non-problem into a problem.
Dark ambient = long exposure.
Also your picture isn't taken straight on. Its at an angle with the "bad" corner closest to the camera.
doitright said:
Your image is designed to exaggerate a non-problem into a problem.
Dark ambient = long exposure.
Also your picture isn't taken straight on. Its at an angle with the "bad" corner closest to the camera.
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OK, so you're telling ME, the one who had the tablet in front of my face it didn't have light bleed and I purposefully 'designed' this picture to exaggerate a problem? Here's the bottom line and I could not give 2 flying ****s what you think I did or didn't do. My tablet had horrible HORRIBLE light bleed. How it looks in that picture is pretty damn close to how it looked in person while in a dark room. Period, end of story. You can check my post history going back to 2010 and see how many times I've complained about devices or *****ed about light bleed. Good luck finding any.
Im a member here to gain knowledge and help people when i can. I have enough devices to damn near fill a small bathtub, and theyre all the the same ones i bought day one never exchanged. In case you werent aware, most of us here are not ****ing retards and know lcds will have a SMALL amount of light bleed.. This is not a small amount, its an unacceptable amount. If You think I'm suddenly trying make **** up or make unwarranted complaints about a screen for no reason, you're flat out wrong.
For someone with the name doitright, you for damn sure aren't holding HTC to that standard.
So if take a picture of all my older tablets next to the nexus 9, they should all basically look the same then correct? By your logic they should all look similiar(according to you, this is a normal, acceptable amount that should be exhibited by all of my older tablets- including 2 nexus 7's) and the nexus 9 should look no worse than the rest correct? 100$ says they don't. Willing to put your money where your mouth is?
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OK, so you're telling ME, the one who had the tablet in front of my face it didn't have light bleed and I purposefully 'designed' this picture to exaggerate a problem? Here's the bottom line and I could not give 2 flying ****s what you think I did or didn't do. My tablet had horrible HORRIBLE light bleed. How it looks in that picture is pretty damn close to how it looked in person while in a dark room. Period, end of story. You can check my post history going back to 2010 and see how many times I've complained about devices or *****ed about light bleed. Good luck finding any.
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No, what I'm saying is that you are too picky and expecting something unreasonable from your hardware, which is working perfectly well. People like you who repeatedly send your hardware back under warranty for imaginary "problems" that are perfectly within the design specifications of the device **AND NOT EVEN CORRECTED** by the warranty replacement, cause the price of hardware to increase for the rest of us, because the cost of that warranty replacement is distributed to EVERYONE who buys that hardware.
I suggest that you return it and buy yourself a ROCK AND A CHISEL. At least if you complain about that, it won't increase the price for the rest of us.
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No, what I'm saying is that you are too picky and expecting something unreasonable from your hardware, which is working perfectly well. People like you who repeatedly send your hardware back under warranty for imaginary "problems" that are perfectly within the design specifications of the device **AND NOT EVEN CORRECTED** by the warranty replacement, cause the price of hardware to increase for the rest of us, because the cost of that warranty replacement is distributed to EVERYONE who buys that hardware.
I suggest that you return it and buy yourself a ROCK AND A CHISEL. At least if you complain about that, it won't increase the price for the rest of us.
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Are you a ****ing moron? Let's try reading shall we?
1) I just said in the post you quoted I've NEVER in my life exchanged or returned any devices out of literally dozens. Obviously besides the nexus 9, but since you don't seem to fully read my previous comments in this thread I feel I need to point this out.
2) I haven't warrantied ONE nexus 9. I bought mine from best buy after launch and had until Jan 15 to exchange. So I did. If you actually READ my posts you'll see each one was returned for multiple issues, light bleed being at the back of my list of issues that concern me.
Would you keep a device that had speakers that didn't work? Yes or no? Would you keep a device that had volume buttons LITERALLY recessed inside the frame, making them completely unable to be pressed? Yes or no? Light bleed just happened to be another issue to top these major defects off.
So, since all these problems HAVE been noted in this thread, in fact I'm pretty sure they were in posts you quoted me on, you're telling me non-working speakers and unpressable buttons are both imaginary and within design specs?
Throw horrendous light bleed on top for icing on the cake.
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Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
glad screen saved
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adeelraj said:
glad screen saved
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A screen isn't much good when the warped chassis is holding down the power button.
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This ain't good at all. Sad story, I imagine we will hear more of those. Hopefully Google will accept rma because this will happen to more, and careful, people.
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They initially refused - but agreed to escalate it when I mentioned SoGA. Gawd bless our consumer-friendly laws.
IF that fails I'll claim on our insurance, but honestly I want googz to take the hit here. Shipping a flagship which warps when dropped is not acceptable.
Simply lower grade, cheaper Aluminums been used.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
Should of had a case. I would agree with WilliamStern. Aluminum is not a strong metal and especially since its on a phone, its going to be thin.
SupahSpankeh said:
http://imgur.com/a/Py5Hq
Tl;Dr version:
Bought 6P for wife. Fitted a google folio case. Phone fell off table (like 3 feet) onto a lino floor. Screen and case unmarked, but chassis warped (can see silver stress webs near power button) and is stuck in boot loop.
Can't say I would recommend this phone. Build quality is miserable. Bitterly disappointed in it.
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where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
anglerstock said:
where is the problem here? every device gets a ding or a scuff when dropped from 3 feet.
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There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
To summarise:
1) not a ding. Was dropped on flat surface. No corners or edges present.
2) was in a case. Google supplied folio case.
3) chassis has warped at the point where the power button sits. Stress fractures visible as silver lines in aluminium. Not a cosmetic issue; power button is forced in.
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I don't know..? Clearly the phone took a fall, and looks like it hit the edge of something in a very unlucky spot. I don't see this as a weak chassis, nor do I see it as Google's fault. I don't understand how Google made you drop your phone? I also don't understand why you think Google should take the hit? That's pure nonsense if you ask me. That's like me hitting a mailbox with my new car, and putting a dent in my fender. Am I supposed to rush to the dealer, and say hey... fix my fender because you guys made it too weak! Oh, and you guys need to take the hit! C'mon man, they would just laugh in my face!
I'm sorry that your phone got messed up, I really am. I do think its 100% your fault though. I also think that we can very well see that same kind of damage on just about every phone in today's market given the same circumstance. If Google takes the hit, lucky for you, but if they don't, they'll be doing the right thing IMHO.
Good luck.
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It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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Rainstalk said:
I think the more important thing here is that he dropped his phone and now it is stuck in a bootloop. Did you try Odin or any other service?
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The important thing is: a) it's a nexus not a Samsung b) it's a hardware fault
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I just watched this drop test video https://m.youtube.com/watch and it kinda looks like you might have got a lemon. I too dropped mine from approx 3ft on to a similar surface, mine was in an adopted case and the phone was just fine. Those kind of hard shell cases don't offer much shock protection.
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SupahSpankeh said:
It hit a flat, soft floor from 3 feet up while in a google case, and it warped to the point that the power button is stuck in.
If that sounds like a satisfactory product to you, fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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I guess I'm surprised that you're getting grief from people about being disappointed in the inability of the N6P to take a shot. Of course we should do our best to avoid drops, dings, smashes, etc. But they are a fact of life and a good design is capable of taking "some" abuse. LG even has a commercial running right now showing one of their naked phones being dropped off a table with no damage. I am so careful with my phones that I am ALWAYS able to sell my old devices on eBay and get top dollar because they are in mint condition. In fact, I just got $100 for my old Nexus 4. But that doesn't mean I haven't had accidents. My Nexus 5 took a fall onto a tile floor, hit on the side and skidded across the floor - not a mark on it and 100% functional (yes, it was in a standard case and not some bubble wrap behemoth). I also would expect a new "flagship" to do the same.
tokenbest said:
There's a warp at the power button there if you look closely.
OP is really unlucky but i think that this is really unacceptable as well, i'm not a fan of iphone but have to say i don't think it will happen to my gf's iphone 6s.
Currently waiting for my 6P to ship over so i really hope i don't get a weak phone that will bend/break just from normal usage and unfortunate drops.
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Yeah I saw it and it looks like that's the point of impact with the floor or no?
That's why plastic is fantastic! Plastic can take a lot of abuse. I'm still struggling in making a decision which one to get 5X or 6P, battery life is important to me and i'd like an AMOLED over LCD but can compromise. But so far, if you have a look at 5X forum - they have no quality issues, in comparison with this forum where every second thread is something wrong with the build quality. Battery life also seems to be quite similar, especially after disabling encryption on 5X, although 6P would always have 30min - 1hour more SOT than 5X... Do i wait till xmas and see of 6P issues will be resolved or get a 5X as i've been rocking Nexus 5 with a smashed screen for the last 6 months waiting for new Nexuses to come out...
I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
Jygar said:
I am almost grateful for the delay on my graphite if this has been part of the production issue....
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I highly doubt it's a production issue. More likely it's because cheaper aluminium is being used and that part is the thinnest part of the side on the phone. Huawei /Google aren't going to suddenly use a higher spec Alu, we'll just have to live with it.
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I am guessing Google knew, hence the Nexus Protect option that suddenly materialized for this Nexus launch. I have been told that there are "production issues" (not sure if this is actually why..) when calling and inquiring about my missed ship/delivery dates for my PREORDER.
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