[Q] Now It's December...any word from HTC on ICS? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is HTC still planning on updating this thing to ICS or have they just decided to scrap it? Has there been any official word from them regarding the Tbolt's fate? Some guy at Radioshack told me HTC has officially cancelled the ICS update, but I haven't seen or heard any other source so far that mirrors his assertion.
Have any of you guys read anything regarding whether or not ICS is still a go for us Tbolt owners?

Was wondering the same

I'll put it this way just give up hoping and you will feel better in about a week. Then when its cancelled officially you're not bummed. Then if by an act of god its released. you can be pleased by the news. We are going on what 5 months from the original release date? I think by now we can put the horse out to pasture with these threads every month.
Look at the facts this phone is about to hit its second anniversary. Another is its not a nexus device as that seems to be the only brand that gets updates even after the phone is old.
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And how old is the oldest nexus? I bet my sox they won't always get that treatment.
But yeah there's only a dozen threads like this and some of them are still getting new posts.
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Dark Jedi said:
I'll put it this way just give up hoping and you will feel better in about a week. Then when its cancelled officially you're not bummed. Then if by an act of god its released. you can be pleased by the news. We are going on what 5 months from the original release date? I think by now we can put the horse out to pasture with these threads every month.
Look at the facts this phone is about to hit its second anniversary. Another is its not a nexus device as that seems to be the only brand that gets updates even after the phone is old.
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I agree with everything that said here HTC says they will be coming out with another ICS update for all phones with greater than 512 MB of memory this would have 768. But the normal next up is one gig of memory the best thing to do is go back to gingerbread under volt your CPU and get a resound battery. between under voting and the Rezound battery I have passed up upgrades for the last six months because my phone not only last longer than when I got it but faster.
Even if this phone does get ics the battery will be cut in half. Ics it's a great selling point when you want to Craig's list it but the power drain will bee twice what it was on gingerbread

The power drain on ICS won't be twice as fast. What even makes you think that? In all reality it should be twice as good since ICS handles resources better and uses hardware rendering for the ui freeing up CPU cycles.
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disconnecktie said:
The power drain on ICS won't be twice as fast. What even makes you think that? In all reality it should be twice as good since ICS handles resources better and uses hardware rendering for the ui freeing up CPU cycles.
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Galaxy nexus is a prime example. Look at all the newer ics phones out there. Their battery like is like double ours. Its proven ics doesn't improve battery life. The gnex is a prime example as its battery size is somewhere close to ours. Even running twisted ics rom battery life is no better than a gb aosp rom. So I think you are in for a rude awakening when and if we get ics. I never heard Google say battery life with ics was suppose to be better. That's just what board member started. We all know the main power drain on phones are the screens. How can an os upgrade improve an old screen in being more efficient? In the end battery life on the bolt will either be the same or worse. Don't even think our little weak battery is going to have the same performances as the larger extended battery's.
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This post already exists, no need for a duplicate. A Mod should have caught on to this by now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932206&page=6
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ramnex said:
This post already exists, no need for a duplicate. A Mod should have caught on to this by now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932206&page=6
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And that thread was closed. What's your point?
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Dark Jedi said:
And that thread was closed. What's your point?
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Simply that any information on the topic already exists there. The ics update is in final carrier testing and will probably be out by the end of the year or mid January
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ramnex said:
Simply that any information on the topic already exists there. The ics update is in final carrier testing and will probably be out by the end of the year or mid January
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Really I heard HTC is still working on it. So how can it be in final daffier tests when Verizon by HTC stance said they don't have it?
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Dark Jedi said:
Galaxy nexus is a prime example. Look at all the newer ics phones out there. Their battery like is like double ours. Its proven ics doesn't improve battery life. The gnex is a prime example as its battery size is somewhere close to ours. Even running twisted ics rom battery life is no better than a gb aosp rom. So I think you are in for a rude awakening when and if we get ics. I never heard Google say battery life with ics was suppose to be better. That's just what board member started. We all know the main power drain on phones are the screens. How can an os upgrade improve an old screen in being more efficient? In the end battery life on the bolt will either be the same or worse. Don't even think our little weak battery is going to have the same performances as the larger extended battery's.
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The galaxy nexus also has a faster processor than this phone and sports a super amoled screen. Nexus phones are like muscle cars, they're fast as hell but man does the mpg suck.
I can verify that ICS won't make the battery life worse. I had my Nexus S 4G when ICS released and going from Gingerbread 2.3.7 to ICS 4.0 made a huge difference in battery life. I suddenly didn't have to carry my charger with me to college.
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It would probably be different for the bolt. I'm sure sense will slurp down the battery like it's cool.
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Shadow Death said:
The galaxy nexus also has a faster processor than this phone and sports a super amoled screen. Nexus phones are like muscle cars, they're fast as hell but man does the mpg suck.
I can verify that ICS won't make the battery life worse. I had my Nexus S 4G when ICS released and going from Gingerbread 2.3.7 to ICS 4.0 made a huge difference in battery life. I suddenly didn't have to carry my charger with me to college.
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Everyone says that the dual core processors are suppose to be more forgiving on power useage. Beings it doesn't have to work as hard like our single core processors do. I have seen the newer corvettes get close to 30 MPG. Its not the power but the gearing that really sucks gas lol.
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Ive never heard anyone say dual core saves battery. The lte chip in the phone is what sucks the battery most of the time. The newer phones like the dna have the lte chip embedded in the cpu which helps save battery. A friend of mine has one and can talk for an hour on the phone and only lose 7%. He can go almost an entire day without putting it on charge.
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disconnecktie said:
He can go almost an entire day without putting it on charge.
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Totally unacceptable. I'd take my BlackBerry off the charger at 7AM Friday morning, use it heavily Friday, lightly on Saturday and Sunday, I'd have to recharge Sunday night. That's acceptable.
I still have an old BB 9650, I'm so tempted to re-activate it.....

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Totally unacceptable. I'd take my BlackBerry off the charger at 7AM Friday morning, use it heavily Friday, lightly on Saturday and Sunday, I'd have to recharge Sunday night. That's acceptable.
I still have an old BB 9650, I'm so tempted to re-activate it.....
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Hmmm yea i highly doubt that blackberry has half the power of even a thunderbolt so if thats what it takes for you to make it through the day then more power to you.
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By comparison, I can't get 12 hours on the T'Bolt running NuSense and just over 12 hours running Infected ROM.
That's with all the tricks I can find and swapping Rezound batteries.
The T'Bolt is just a battery hog, most BBs have much longer battery life.
NOTE: I hear constantly that Sense uses a lot of juice but I have very little difference with de-sensed ROMs and...... I LIKE Sense.

xs11e said:
By comparison, I can't get 12 hours on the T'Bolt running NuSense and just over 12 hours running Infected ROM.
That's with all the tricks I can find and swapping Rezound batteries.
The T'Bolt is just a battery hog, most BBs have much longer battery life.
NOTE: I hear constantly that Sense uses a lot of juice but I have very little difference with de-sensed ROMs and...... I LIKE Sense.
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Dude, you cant really compare any blackberry to an android device. BlackBerry isn't even close to the power that android has. Also, nusense had to use an incomplete rom as a base which has had a huge affect on the battery life. Considering what has been done to nusense i have to give huge props to Santod for taking a crappy leak and making it great.
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And most blackberry can't do what the bolt can.
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[Q] How prevalent are the battery/power issues w/ the new kernel?

I'm thinking about flashing on the the roms based on the latest leak. Just wanted to know if everyone was having reduced battery life from it or just a select few?
I have had better battery since the upgrade.
GrayTheWolf said:
I have had better battery since the upgrade.
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Same here.
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Mines been about the same since the leak was installed, no major changes.
I am running the leaked ICS RUU from last month and my battery life is a lot better than when I was on Gingerbread.
3g enabled: same. 4g: better
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Better battery for me. You should have done a poll
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My battery life is better. But it will vary based on a lot of factors. I did somewhere around 30 firmware installs for other people. About 20 - 24 of those users have kept up with me. 2 are having really bad battery life and one more is poor but jot terrible, the really bad ones are both heavy users. They have high temp issues especially when downloading and streaming. Because I can't remotely look over their settings like I could on a computer, I can only deal with it further with some back and fourth trial and error while on gtalk. I know some is kernel related, as to why they have the heat and battery problems and others don't, I havent nailed it down.
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What's the best battery out without making.the phone look ugly with that bulge

I love this phone but the battery is not up to par yet... What's a good expansion battery that doesn't.make the phone look funny looking with that ugly back.cover
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Get a rezound battery
nowetdio said:
Get a rezound battery
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Yup. A rezound battery is the same size, works with the tbolt, and is slightly better. Just be sure you get a standard rezound battery and not an extended one (which also works with the tbolt but is huge and going have ti get a special cover.)
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Get a rezound battery
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ditto
I have the 2 hyperon 1500's with wall charger. 20$ = a sweet deal. Plus my extended is a lifesaver
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So is having one extended battery better than buy two batteries
ATHORNFAM2 said:
So is having one extended battery better than buy two batteries
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In my honest opinion yes. The extended battery really isnt that bad in terms of looks and feel. You do get a better feel and grip on the phone and its much easier to use it one handed. It doesnt look that bad and after a few days, you wont even notice it.
Everyone that has taken my advice loves it and wish they would have did it sooner...
Hmm ill take your advice on that battery
Ordered the official HTC extended battery for this phone... Hope to see some major improvements
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What kind of life do u get out of the extended battery? I'm getting more and more tempted to order one.
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mattamous said:
What kind of life do u get out of the extended battery? I'm getting more and more tempted to order one.
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depends on what you want they have battery they have 2750 mAh and 3500 mah thats what i know so far. so depending on the size of the phone you care for like if you want some life in the phone but not that bulky go with the 2750 mah. now if your like me always streaming videos or surfing the web and don't care about size go with the bigger battery
How much use could one expect from a rezound battery?
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Recieved my extended battery today.... Love the look and feel... So far so good... Everyone this is a must buy
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I can say that I have good battery life and I use the phone between moderate & heavy.
4G, Facebook, twitter (3 accounts @ 10 minute updates), texting, notifications. games & video watching plus email checks (3 accounts) every 2 hours. Start at 100% at roughly 6-7am and still have around 30% at around 1am. i do have it on wifi from 9pm to about 1 am most times when Im home because I control my roku unit with the phone.
Jrocker23 said:
I can say that I have good battery life and I use the phone between moderate & heavy.
4G, Facebook, twitter (3 accounts @ 10 minute updates), texting, notifications. games & video watching plus email checks (3 accounts) every 2 hours. Start at 100% at roughly 6-7am and still have around 30% at around 1am. i do have it on wifi from 9pm to about 1 am most times when Im home because I control my roku unit with the phone.
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Is this with an extended period battery or a rezound battery?
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I don't mind the bulge, i think it adds grip.
With the extended battery I get about two full days and part of a third, with one Gmail, one Yahoo email (15min), and Facebook. I also had an Exchange with push and got the same times.
However, I mostly do quick internet searches and 10-15min gaming sessions twice a day. On the stock battery I was getting a day tops.
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Is this with an extended period battery or a rezound battery?
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Extended battery. The rezound battery will only give you a little xtra. I hate to say it but some of the claims by people with the rezound battery are hard to believe.Not saying they are all bull but I dont think they are exactly as stated.
Well I haven't seen any claims from some that use the rezound battery and was kinda curious what could be expected from that battery.
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I bought the Rezound battery a while back hoping for some amazing numbers, but in honesty, you may get a few hours out of it. I've never had jaw dropping hours with it but if you r wanting a big boost, I would go with the 2750mah. I'm almost leaning towards it myself.
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Amaze Screen on time/battery life

So I might be trading my Gnex for an Amaze + cash, but my main concern is battery life. That, and learning a different process of flashing roms/radios, since I've only ever tinkered with Samsung/LG devices.
So my fellow members, what screen on time (best way to measure battery life I think) do you guys get? I get around 5 hours on my Gnex. Mention what rom/radio as well if you can.
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Moderate use on stock, change a few settings, no unnecessary background programs, I get a decent 12-16 hours with moderate use, though to be honest, I text a lot, check my facebook, be on xda and stuff quite a bit. I set my screen timeout to 15s. So you gotta tweak it and mess with it a bit. Some custom roms have reported better life.
On speed Rom I get a full day with 40% to spare with a lot of browsing and playing games through the day, I'm sure you could get that with other roms as well. The amaze has no custom radio or kernel for ics at the moment
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To be honest I've never measured/calculated my Screen On Battery Life. But total battery time for me is a good 12-16+ hrs.
Also its recommended, but not necessary, to S-Off your device. It makes flashing Roms much easier to flash. But if you don't want to perform that then use 4EXT Recovery and it can flash kernels without the use of fastboot to flash a kernel.
If the Amaze you get isn't updated to ICS then you're better off upgrading first before rooting and etc... Have Fun!
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Thanks guys! Definitely seems like its closer to what I got with my G2x.
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+1 for speedrom. With moderate use throughout the workday Im left with 30-40%
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Getting good battery from speed Rom 5.0 about 3 hours screen on
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cazper210 said:
Getting good battery from speed Rom 5.0 about 3 hours screen on
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Care to show a screenshot of the screen on time too?
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I am just stock ICS and generally get 9-11 hours. Screen is usually on 2 plus hours and do a lot of Internet, XDA, FB and the like. Actually use my phone for phone calls too.
Gingerbread was so much better for me, but used to it now.
That is with Juice Defender on as well.
I will say if not using the phone much, stand by time is phenomenal! I have gotten 24 hours on ICS, but I barely used the phone.
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ROM and Battery Life

Running UKB I don;t see an improvement.
1hr 20 min @ 88% with 20 min of web browsing. (wifi)
Thats garbage.
Can we list our battery life and settings? for specific roms?
"damn u HTC u ****ed me on battery with tbolt and now the dna is slightly better.
what an insightful thread.
there's already like 3 other battery threads. go in there and read up on peoples settings rather than start your own where you just complain about it, while the rest of us are getting along fine.
DNA slightly better than the tbolt...bwahaha u gotta be on some serious drugs to say that
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jayochs said:
what an insightful thread.
there's already like 3 other battery threads. go in there and read up on peoples settings rather than start your own where you just complain about it, while the rest of us are getting along fine.
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So much of this!
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Slightly better, lol.
I got 2 hours screen in time if I was lucky on my tbolt. On my DNA stock I get 4-5. I can get 6+ if I turn my brightness down and turn sync off.
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Not another battery thread. Seriously the battery life is fine.
Try the Optimus 4X HD (similar to optimus G) I have one and that battery life is terrible. Just turning on the screen to take a phone and I loose 3-4 % battery life
Ukb 1.2.1
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This phone sucks!!!

Is it just me or does this phone completely suck. Dont get me wrong I love android and Samsung. But this phones battery is terrible o have to charge twice a day and as soon as I play any game it heats up and drains all the battery. And everything is slow and laggy. I know its an older phone but this is rediculous. I am running stock att jelly bean
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dannytt07 said:
Is it just me or does this phone completely suck. Dont get me wrong I love android and Samsung. But this phones battery is terrible o have to charge twice a day and as soon as I play any game it heats up and drains all the battery. And everything is slow and laggy. I know its an older phone but this is rediculous. I am running stock att jelly bean
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The phone is actually pretty good, especially for its age...
You really need to ditch the stock ROM and try something like Cooked. It will perform better AND have better battery life to boot. There will be nothing laggy about it
Also, keep in mind that playing games will drain the battery quickly on any phone regardless of the ROM.
dannytt07 said:
Is it just me or does this phone completely suck. Dont get me wrong I love android and Samsung. But this phones battery is terrible o have to charge twice a day and as soon as I play any game it heats up and drains all the battery. And everything is slow and laggy. I know its an older phone but this is rediculous. I am running stock att jelly bean
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This was the best/fastest phone in the history of the world 2 years ago. Jesus Christ. What does the world owe you.
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This.
And, a few people have even stated they still like their SII better than their SIII or SIV.
Check out this battery life. This is on SHOstock3 with lite usage.
I still don't get the fuss about battery life when there are removable batteries ...
Definitely not normal to not last a whole day unless that battery is old. Either case, get some new batteries.
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This.
And, a few people have even stated they still like their SII better than their SIII or SIV.
Check out this battery life. This is on SHOstock3 with lite usage.
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Thats amazing but I doubt you are enjoying your phone to the fullest
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dannytt07 said:
Thats amazing but I doubt you are enjoying your phone to the fullest
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True. This is very light use. No gaming. Not a lot of screen time even. But it illustrates that the kind of problem that you described is due to firmware, and not the phone. There is a thread in this forum titled Known identified battery drainers that can help you understand how to correct battery issues. Part of the problem can be the rom, or more specifically the kernel, but there are other possible issues to consider. You can configure your phone to get very good battery life, even with heavy usage.

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