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Hello Vibrant Community
I am a 40-something former Female Techie and I have had my Vibrant for 90 days. I have Build Number ECLAIR.UVJI6, Firmware version 2.1-update1, and my last software update was around the end of September.
I came from MyTouch3G, can't remember the build or the firmware but I believe I was on 1.9(??) in July when my dear phone hit the deck one too many times. I need some help with changing environments. After 90 days I am still having some "transition" issues (yes, user error I am sure!). While Vibrant and MyTouch are essentially the same OS, the packaging and "custom" interfaces HTC and Samsung use are a little confusing. There were features on the MyTouch I absolutely loved and relied on that I simply can not find on the Vibrant... even in searching for apps, I still can not recreate some of the features. So I am coming to the best place I can think of - to the men & women who create the applications. What I love most about my Android is the Apps, and it is people in this forum who could best explain how to find what I want.
My search of the forums over the past few months hasn't netted the results I am looking for, so if you know of a thread that will answer my questions, please direct me!
My questions:
The dialer & contacts on the Vibrant with the Gmail/Twitter/Facebook synch. I am unable to assign ringtones to contacts from either app if the contact is "coming from" gmail, and not a saved contact on my phone. Even if I create the contact and save to phone, then go back and synch manually, I lose the ability.
I have downloaded several apps to try and fix my issue, but so far I can't find anything to work correctly with the resident dialer.
Visual Voice Mail - a TMobile package app. I simply can not get it to work since the last firmware update. I have removed, reinstalled updated, you name it - and nothing works. Do any of you have any info?
Battery. Is there anything I can do? Any new insights? The last thread I saw on this topic recommended App Killers, and mentioned a few specific apps. A TMobile rep recommended TaskOS I kill apps through out the day with TaskOS, but lately it's been 3-6 hours before it dies completely, whereas before the last update I could get nearly 12-16.
Thanks for your help. The MyTouch was my epiphany into Android - and I am never leaving. I have joined the Borg and I have assimilated. I got my first Droid at the MyTouch Online LAunch in 2009. A TMobile sales rep convinced me to wait instead of buying an iPhone to run on TMobile's network. Honestly, the lack of support and equipment protection was the clincher, but I am so glad I listened to that young lady. I beat the crap out of that phone, constantly dropping it... in water.... on cement.... MyTouch was a champ, usually surviving 3 drops before I had to call the insurance. I truly thought I would never leave MyTouch, but.... the Vibrant has stolen my heart and you will have to pry the device out of my cold dead hand.
And thanks to all the developers. Without you my phone would be a brick!
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Hello, I thought I would try and offer some answers, but thanks to your post I now realize I also am not able to assign a ringtone to a specific contact.
I also came from a MYT3G and completely love my Vibrant.
For visual voicemail, is your phone rooted? If it is I may have an idea and am looking now to see if it will work, I don't use the app myself, but may be able to assist.
Battery life, we will start with task killers do more harm than good. There is a very good write up about it on XDA, being a noob, I am not able to post links. Basically the OS is designed to multitask and will kill apps as needed. So there is no reason to worry about this.
Having said that, the latest update will cause considerably more drain as it boosts the antenna signal, but you should still be getting more than 3-4 hours from your phone.
Do you have tons of widgets running, each time a widget updates, you are using battery, have you tried turning off wifi and gps when they are not in use.
Also I have noticed that when I am in a area that doesn't have a strong 3g signal, the phone will bounce from 3g to edge and that will cause the battery to drain faster. If this is happening, just set the phone to use only edge networks.
We can also try to recondition the battery. To do this, drain the battery down to about 5-6%, charge all the way up with the phone turned off. Then drain again, turn off phone and charge, this will recondition your battery and give you considerably longer life.
After making the changes I have listed, I now go from 7AM to Midnite with only 30% drain on an average day.
It is also possible that you may have a rogue app that is killing your battery. If you go to settings>about phone> battery use, you will see a list of what services/hardware is using resources on your phone. You can also go to settings>applications>running services to see what services are running. There could be something here that is causing you extra battery drain.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
It has been discussed actually (and with that application), but anyways, at least you tried
Assuming your speeds are bad due to one application isnt exactly a very good test (more so since you did not say what version of the application you are running since that could matter). If you want to be certain, try internet connection mode via usb and download a test file from a location around you, such as from one of these data centers http://www.linode.com/speedtest/ and watch the speed. Doing that, you can eliminate plenty of variables, like the wifi connection on either end acting up for whatever reason and the application.
If it stays constant, then it's the app. If it doesn't, well that's not a 100% indication either. LTE is unstable speeds will fluctuate. If you're only testing from one location, that's not a very good conclusion either.
Whenever you have a problem, try to go through the total process of elimination only focusing on one variable at a time and try to keep everything else the same. Most likely it's you or the current setup on your phone or the application, not verizon. How do I know this? Because many have downloaded way more than you have and haven't been throttled (just from people I know locally with an LTE enabled phone).
Exusting all possible outcomes is a much better conclusion than wildly guessing you are being throttled though.
Another way you can test directly on your phone:
1) open up the terminal
2) type the 3 lines below: (downloads a file, gets the time it took and then removes it after)
cd /mnt/sdcard
time wget http://207.192.68.6/100MB-newark.bin
rm 100MB-newark.bin
*if the above doesn't work, then you need busybox, but nearly every rom/kernel has it that's not stock, so you should by default, have it. If not, search in the market for busybox installer. The reason you see an ip there is wget doesnt play well with hostnames on the android due to the way it resolves domains and busybox generally being statically linked. If you want to try another url, you have to get the ip like above (you can do that by pinging the hostname on your phone).
3)Note "real" the time it took in seconds and divide 100 by that to get Megabytes per second (MBps not Mbps) or by 102400 to get Kilobytes per second (I suppose you could get Megabits, but that's a pretty pointless measurement other than making your connection look fast compared to saying bytes, since your files all appear in bytes and browser downloads show in bytes). If you really care about mbps, multiple what you did above already by 8.
4) when it finishes you have an answer totally on your phone alone.
ignitros said:
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
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I believe there is a problem with the "Wireless Tether" app. I don't think it plays well with the 4G, this could be a reason for it. Have you tried used the "Mobile Hotspot" app, that comes with the phone? Do you get the same results?
I have also used the stock mobile hotspot app as well as tether via usb and get the same result. For clarification... I am downloading large files (500mb or larger) from a work server so I know that it's a problem on my phone end and not a problem on the server end. I can be on my home computer and download the files and never drop below 5MBps download the whole time... usually never drop below 10MBps to be honest.
Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/27/psa-take-it-easy-att-isnt-targeting-unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
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That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
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yeah...backup your current rom, flash and restore your phone back to near stock (still rooted) and try without any meddling (custom stuff) http://www.multiupload.com/26WG1UZCXR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
you also never mentioned what android version and rom you are currently using. if it's anything other than froyo, that could be your problem since nothing else is anywhere as stable (by stable, i dont mean "oh it works" i mean as in tested throughly and was put out for non testing release).
Though the above suggestions stated above likely are the culprit, and will help you...there is also a chance that you are indeed being throttled occasionally. Infact, I'm sure we all have been. Verizon has several manned data centers throughout the state who monitor all the traffic happening, and can, and will, activately manupulate the speeds, thoroughput, etc depending on how conjestion things are. And yes, they can even pinpoint it on an individual level...though they rarely do that, tending to focus on what's happening on a more macro level.
I actually wasn't even aware of this until recently, but some guy who worked at Verizon who was also in school for that sort of thing let it slip when we started chatting for a second, to which he received a scathing look from the ***** manager, so that ended the conversation.
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
ignitros said:
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
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Find someone else with a 4g device and have them download next to you at the same time. Only other option I can think of doing.
I'll try that.
Update:
I got with a few friends and tried a few different things. 3 people with Thunderbolts and 2 with Droid Charge. 2 in Seattle and 3 in Spokane. The Thunderbolts rooted and running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and the Charges fully stock. We tried the download using 3 methods for the TBolt's (wireless tether for root, mobile hotspot and USB tether) and the Charges used the mobile hotspot.
We all downloaded the same files. A 512mb video file, 400mb zipped picture file and a 300mb document file.
My Seattle friends who have had the "official" 4G LTE launch had no issues downloading at all... 1 TBolt and 1 Charge. Download went smoothly and never throttled down at all.
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
ignitros said:
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
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I would say that's a possibility. I get around 130 kbit/sec down, and LTE was officially launched here in december but only at our airport. I've been checking for nearly two weeks now and it's stayed the same. the upload is normal, was 3.5mbit/sec today.
This is all good to know. I'll be in Seattle next week for work. Can't wait to have 4G for a week
PLEASE MOVE THIS THREAD TO GENERAL MY APOLOGIES
I know battery life issues have been talked to death but...Here's a new perspective:
so I have been doing some experimenting with my amaze in terms of battery life and asking my friend who works at T-mobile regarding his SGS2...He says his battery life seems to be pretty crappy too, marginally better than the amaze....so, I hard reset my phone and I did not sign into google, left my phone on airplain mode, basically I did not set up anything...I turned off wifi, and data everything was truned off...I went for 10 hours with only 2 percent battery drainage...then I signed into google....and in a matter of 10 minutes I went from 98 percent to 92... Watever is eating the battery up is not the phones hardware fault or the screens fault... I turned off background data sync and it seemed to make little difference...It seems the google programs or any program that needs internet connect regardless of syncing or not will have significant effect on your battery life...between 4g and wifi I saw little difference in battery life drainage...my phone signal is completely green so I cannot blame the signal... I cannot possibly kill gmail, market, maps etc...these are programs I use constantly...lets hope with the ICS update some of these sofware issues will resolve...
google needs to start managing applications better and not leave a bunch of applications running in the forground and background...
I've heard different theories regarding task killers...some say it actually worsens battery life since programs keep wanting to restart and some say it saves battery life...can anyone elaborate on this? I have juice defender ultimate, it seems to make minute difference in battery life as well.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
I've tried juice defender, um... I would suggest you read about instructions on flashing a custom ROM I'm on quiksense and when 2.0 comes out I heard xboarder's got some really nice improvements with the 1.4.1 version I almost doubled my battery life. My phone used to go down to 50~60 idle over night, now it's about 90~ idle over night.
Teo032 said:
Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
Teo032 said:
use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
seansk said:
I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
You may want to try an AOSP based rom, (if you rooted)
I was getting 18 hours of use with 36% left, Medium usage (ie browsing, texting)
Teo032 said:
for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
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ya i clicked twice enable/screen off...still no go for those particular programs i tested and tested it....oh well..my batterly life is not bad at all...besides I have a car kit which charges it in the car. once i started using the thing tho, battery drains fast...its no mystery its got a big screen bigger than my old N1 which used to be amoled and this is lcd...also this uses 4g which consumes significantly greater battery...faster processor etc....its not a mystery!!! they need to come up with a new battery technology soon!!!!
Well I have been using My data manager it has been very accurate, but this one produce so many wakelocks that drain a bit faster the battery.. So which other you will recommend. ??
That is almost as accurate, and the most important thing is that keep record for various sims.. I switch sims (3) very often.. My data manager, always detect which sim is used, and never loose the previous use.
Have you tried Onavo?
I literally JUST installed Onavo before seeing this thread. Gonna try it out to make sure I don't go over my 3 GB LIMIT ON MY UNLIMITED DATA PLAN
I wouldn't use the 3G watchdog or whatever. That was way off for me. I had used about twice what it said. :/ I even tried the option it had for a different way of counting and it got worse. I don't use anything now, I just periodically check that usd code thing.
SHOStock + ICS theme + ICS themed gb keyboard = the flashaholic cure!
I've run 3G watchdog for a while - doesn't seem to be a significant battery hit, but as previously posted, not as accurate as the other options.
More recently ran MDM for a while - very accurate, but mild additional battery drain, though it didn't seem to show up heavily in BBS.
Running Onavo for a second time now, seems to also be a mild battery drain, thinking I'm probably not gonna keep it.
For non-continuous but quite accurate data, I also have my ATT account set up in PageOnce. It does roughly 24 hour updates (I think, haven't paid too much attention). It can also be manually updated. Has a very nice interface to see a bunch of info regarding my account (so I can keep an eye on how many texts my mother-in-law uses on her pay-per-use text plan ) With this, I can get a pretty close rough idea where I am data use wise at a glance, and update manually if I need to know exactly. Will also throw alerts when getting close to maxing out airtime minutes and data usage. I haven't seen any negative battery impact from this app, and is my fallback when I get sick of the other options...
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Have you tried Onavo?
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The problem I have with Onavo is that if you install it on say the 15th, there is no way to tell it how much data you have ALREADY used that month.
Same thing if you flash a new ROM. It starts from zero (as far as I can tell) when you install it. No way to tell it "I have already used xxxMB" etc.
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The problem I have with Onavo is that if you install it on say the 15th, there is no way to tell it how much data you have ALREADY used that month.
Same thing if you flash a new ROM. It starts from zero (as far as I can tell) when you install it. No way to tell it "I have already used xxxMB" etc.
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yeah, you can. In Onavo, menu>settings>set data plan>set previously used data.
Thanks.. I installed Onavo and this one doesn´t detect which sim is used !! If in sim 1, have used 300mb and then install sim 2, the data used in sim 2 is added to the overall usage !!
Tha same happen with data counter widget. 3G watchdog as everyone say is not accurate enough..
Guess will not be able to leave My data manager.
Are all 3 Sims at&t? If so why not use the AT&T Communication Manager Widget?
It will show data used & remaining for whatever sim card is inserted.
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Are all 3 Sims at&t? If so why not use the AT&T Communication Manager Widget?
It will show data used & remaining for whatever sim card is inserted.
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Noup 1 is from at&t and the others are from different carriers..
I got my Note three days ago and I'm at 600Mb data usage.
Of course I've been setting it up but decided to look at the usage.
All the big Mb listings are "Sent"
They all look like this
03/27 08:28 PM pta Internet/MEdia Net Sent 128291KB
That particular one was right when I got the phone.
Last night there was one at 11:33pm for 24mB
I was asleep.....but had the phone charging so Data was turned on....
Anything 'received' is small. So I don't understand why apps arent showing up....
I checked mail,etc and there is nothing that warrants a 24Mb upload that I can tell.
Any ideas? How could I find out within my phone?
Thanks
One of your gapps could have updated or the yellow pages app. Tgats what happened to me i had mine for 3 days as well
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That's pretty scary - especially w/ the throttling cap looming! If you find out what is going on, please share.
The data usage report doesn't happen to be in a different time-zone, does it? (11:33p actually being your 9:33p or something)
Ok just uninstalled yellow pages.
Even if the time is off I haven't sent anything that big.
Actually nothing but texts, text emails and maybe one pic.
That 126mb is ridiculous. I can understand some syncing at first startup but that much????
I would also expect a lot more as 'receive' because i had to download all my apps.
I know last night I downloaded one of the s pen apps that was 30mb and that doesn't show up.
Does 'sent' really mean 'receive' as most of us would perceive?
But that was many hours before that date stamp. BTW the texts I got match up with the times posted so it's not off.
The only thing 'good' about this is they put me on this month's cycle. So I have 3gb til sunday
Hence the reason I downloaded that 30mb app through LTE (which by the way showed no status, it was just bam! ----installing! LOVE IT)
The reason I got to looking was I was curious about how much data speedtest.net uses each time. Attached is the one from this morning (Beautiful!)
But it never showed up on my data usage.....
8o lucky haha
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I went ahead and called....
It seems they aren't really sure about these things.
It took awhile and they still seem a bit foggy on how this works.
PTA is supposedly a generic input for LTE data usage.
I had to google that to find out, not the tech support person.
I asked why it says 'sent' and why it did it when I was asleep.
After talking to the manager, the best answer they gave me was that each 'session' will compile the data then once it's over send it up.
So 'sent' means what I downloaded...go figure.
I still thought it was excessive despite downloading apps etc.
I can't get back on my VZW account (they waste no time kicking you off) but I had checked and I was only using 2Gb/month consistently.
I downloaded a data tracker app and then downloaded a 30mb app from the market. It recorded that just fine.
I use Dolphin Browser HD and went to www.androidcentral.com which has all sorts of graphics. I have the user set to 'desktop' so it's the full version webpage, just like i had it on my tbolt. That page was 3Mb!! So I opened the stock browser and did the same thing....3Mb....
If browsing the internet chews this much I'm screwed. I think my phone might be measuring data strangely or I would have seen massive usage on VZW. I went back to check because I wanted to know if it was 20Gb instead of 2Gb but that's highly unlikely.
My next step is to have a friend who has the tbolt on VZW and LTE to do the same thing and see if it records 3Mb.
I don't want to be a slave to watching my data consumption......
If anyone that uses LTE could check their data usage it would be good to see if you get PTA as a line item with some high hits....
Similar situation. I got the Note just over a month ago. While on my Evo3D and Evo 4G, I never went over 2GB, even though I watched tons of youtube in HQ, tethered, and surfed a lot of internet. My first month with AT&T, I almost hit the 3GB cap within the first 2 weeks with pretty much the same useage(actually probably less useage). Not sure if I have a rogue app somewhere.
I had a friend on Tmobile 4G (sensation) do the same thing and his 1.5Mb to my 3Mb. I also had VZW LTE (tbolt) do the same and his was about 3Mb.
Now that's not a very good test actually. I guess I need to find a web page with an exact Mb size.
After downloading the data usage app I can see the main hogs. I watched a youtube video through Dolphin and it jumped 40Mb....
Just browsing through the market will gobble some up and of course downloading apps. The apps seem 1 for 1 meaning its the same size. I don't know if there is something else when streaming data or browsing data.
Anroid OS + others is also a main chunk
I was happy to see my email and texting apps don't use diddly squat....
I took a screenshot of the data use. this is just this afternoon and while I was working. The 'Web' is the default browser loading one page....
Basically, I should use wifi for downloading apps and watching videos....sucks.
I never worried about it on my Tbolt and was grandfathered unlimited but for whatever reason it didn't chew that kind of data up.
The whole reason I started looking was to see how much data the speedtest uses. Now I know. Each test is 19mb.so I guess I wont do those any more.....basically the 3gb plan means 100mb a day....
Do you guys send /receive mms at all? I think that counts but not sure
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Well tracking usage from 1pm on I used 100Mb with my internet browser.
It just seems excessive.....I'm really wondering if there is an LTE calculation in there....
Just to come to XDA straight to the NOTE main forum, then this subforum and then to this thread is 1.5Mb
I like to constantly poke in to my favorite websites throughout the day. Now this is going to make me hesitant and that ruins the experience.
I'll defintely only download files and apps via wifi or computer.
Opera mini compresses the data on their side before it gets to the phone, reducing data consumption on your plan.
I think it's Opera mini...you have to read the descriptions of their two browsers to make sure.