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Hi every!
a friend of mine gave me his X10 cuz he had many problems with it, mainly it was slow.
now the most important thing for him is games and speed (mainly touch responsiveness)
one of the games he wants to play is Assassin Creed, I saw a video on Youtube of someone playing this game and he uses TW ROM,
when i try to flash that ROM on my friend's device in boots and then few secs later restarts, over and over.
i cant figure why it happens, as im using the right BB. help!
besides this, i tried many other ROMs, but Assassin Creed worked on neither of them, i would think that this game is not meant to run on this device but i saw that Youtube video...
last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
yossi_s1 said:
last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
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I think just there, you solved your own problem.
Is Quadrant that important to your friend?
Does he want a fast phone for gaming
or a phone that scores high in Quandrant?
The thing with Quadrant is that even though is commonly used,
it's easily "cheatable" and bottom line is, it should be used as a reference
and not as an evaluation point for user experience.
Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
yossi_s1 said:
Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
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It does measure FPS but it's only a part of the tests conducted,
so the results do not mean anything FPS-wise.
And FPS are kernel-related, indepedent of custom ROMs,
so you could try using Z's latest kernel that raises the FPS to about 48-50 max.
Thanks very much for your help, I am actually using zkernel which is really good...
so i guess no idea why the restart loop happens, or anything about games compatibility.
anyway, u made me wounder... you said that i can use zkernel...
is there a way to flash only kernel to use with specific ROM? or that isnt a good idea/possible at all.
Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
yossi_s1 said:
Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
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Glad you sorted it out! I also use MIUI with the zkernel overclocked and games run really smooth!
Then again I mostly play Cut The Rope and Angry Birds (2D games)! LOL!
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Hey All
I recently downloaded Gta III From the market But there is significant Lag
(I am using Cm7 With Full Oc)
But I have seen videos on youtube Of people playing Gta III on their Optimus one.
I Have heard Of a Gta version where it doesn't lag But the graphics are bad
Could i PLEASE have a download link for Gta III one that dosnt Lag (i dont care if the graphics are Bad)
GTAIII Optimization
There's two ways I can think of making it run smoother.
1. Chainfire3D. It's a root app, found in the market, whose sole purpose is to enable games on devices that wouldn't normally be able to play them. You have to buy it to unlock everything, but I've been able to use the free version on my Moto Droid to play GTAIII better.
2. Delete the audio folder. Once you have everything downloaded, manually delete the audio folder. If the phone isn't constantly trying to play music or SFX, it will run a bit quicker.
The specific apk isn't going to matter, unless rockstar made huge optimizations to code in recent versions, but as you've DLed from the market, that shouldn't matter, no? Overall, I'd recommend against trying to run it. The optimus isn't really made to handle 3D games in general, much less GTAIII. Good luck, though.
the processor
your rom have overclock? that could help. try to put over 700 mhz in perfomance governor
with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
mitzkaia said:
with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
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No.
Maybe a little bit. But nothing will be damaged. Don`t worry, the only thing you can have, is reboot.
Here ya go buddy:
http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2011/12/grand-theft-auto-gta-iii-v10-apk-full.html
Find on this post: New Version for Low/Middle End Devices is released by Andropedia. Click Here
or here direct link: http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2012/01/gta-iii-gta3-apk-full-sd-data-finally.html
Go there, download game that is around 70-90MB, and apk, and do the same what you did with original!
Graphics are pretty bad in this one, and there is often a bug where you will after 20m in front of yourself see only some pink wall, and ofc no sound...
But runs better, still lagged pretty much on mik_os 6.5.7 but now will test it in PerfectPeso2.2 and see how it is. With full game, on PerfectPeso, it didn't lagged so much like on the rest of the ROMs so I expect this one to run smootly now...
And yeah, just overclock it until kernel starts to reboot, i got mine stable on 825Mhz, on 844 it runs about 1 hour, and on 864 it got nearly 10min in mik_os 6.5.7, but now on PerfectPeso there is no option to go beyond 806mhz...:/ But still frikin fast!
UPDATE: yeah on PerfectPeso2.2 fresh installed no tweaks ripped version will run almost lagless, 15-25fps, but totaly playable! And no pink wall bug anymore!!!
Tried this game a while back and the result was the same... The lag made the game unplayable..
Tested it on CM7. PerfectPeso2.2 sound's good from what you say, but will not change the rom just for a game .
Hey, I'm new here so sorry if I have posted in the wrong place!
I've been experiencing lag when playing most games on my One X+, even Tegra optimised ones. Shadowgun THD is very choppy and so is Deadzone, GTA 3 is choppy, Dead Trigger isn't great but is fairly smooth and what confuses me is that Riptide GP plays well and Mass Effect Infiltrator is good too. I'm using this phone in the UK on O2. I'm wondering whether I have a faulty device or a software issue? Normal day to day use has been lag free. I've seen some users saying that their One X+'s are playing games very smoothly so any feedback/advice from other users would be greatly appreciated
Hey there man! Welcome to xda! This is a queer problem you are facing, check the ram usage. Perhaps there are several background processes running, bogging the system down. The hardware is perfect, no problem there! If the problem persists after a reboot, try downloading chain fire 3D for better gpu management. Hope i helped!
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xBenHx said:
Hey, I'm new here so sorry if I have posted in the wrong place!
I've been experiencing lag when playing most games on my One X+, even Tegra optimised ones. Shadowgun THD is very choppy and so is Deadzone, GTA 3 is choppy, Dead Trigger isn't great but is fairly smooth and what confuses me is that Riptide GP plays well and Mass Effect Infiltrator is good too. I'm using this phone in the UK on O2. I'm wondering whether I have a faulty device or a software issue? Normal day to day use has been lag free. I've seen some users saying that their One X+'s are playing games very smoothly so any feedback/advice from other users would be greatly appreciated
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My phone plays those games with power savings on and no lagg you have a software issue
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i have this phone fron uk too and have same issue....
maby they got bugged phones -_--
how much time is ur battery hold the games?
me after 1houer or 1,5houer of use from 100% to 0....
all featuers off + anitmtions off
screen auto brightenss
loactions and google servieses off too...
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i have this phone fron uk too and have same issue....
maby they got bugged phones -_--
how much time is ur battery hold the games?
me after 1houer or 1,5houer of use from 100% to 0....
all featuers off + anitmtions off
screen auto brightenss
loactions and google servieses off too...
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With power saver mode enabled the battery on mine will easily last a whole day, when playing games the battery is significantly drained though. So yeah, the battery isn't great.
guys this problem has been discusse many times now. take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260
I don't have my device yet, so cannot confirm, but if i understood all of that the right way the gaming issues are due to cpu-management e.g. governer.
You could also root your device and use setcpu or something similar to set your governer to other states and retry these games.
try to put live wallpaper on ur screen dos it lag??
cuz on my phone it is...
and wich frameware ur using?
Live wallpapers and games lags on mine too, whata hell?! Thought this phone could handle most of the things without lag.
ShadowSide said:
try to put live wallpaper on ur screen dos it lag??
cuz on my phone it is...
and wich frameware ur using?
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Haven't tried live wallpapers, and stock 4.1.1
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Haven't tried live wallpapers, and stock 4.1.1
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So try live wallpapers and let my know ,,, (use the HTC stock ones) many the UK box+ have same issues. My phone lag too if I surfinling this site. And after 10 min of gaming its start to heavy lags cuz of heat I think
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So try live wallpapers and let my know ,,, (use the HTC stock ones) many the UK box+ have same issues. My phone lag too if I surfinling this site. And after 10 min of gaming its start to heavy lags cuz of heat I think
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I just tried Live Wallpapers and yeah, I can see a very slight stutter every now and then .
I installed the insertcoin rom and even with intensive 3d wallpapers, water, mybeach, season zen, etc it is all very smooth prolly above 50fps at all time mainly 60fps, however games like horn and avengers initiative lag for sime reason even though they are supposed to be oiptimized for tegra! they don`t even lag on the nexus 7, wth is going on!
Solution
Guys, if you are experiencing this problem, take a look at the thread nchantmnt posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260. I rooted my phone (no custom ROM, although I may try one when more become available), I then installed this app and it has fixed my problems . GTA 3 is now smooth and so is Shadowgun Deadzone! Thanks for all your help guys!
Ps: I hope that an official firmware update is released to address this issue! Although this app is a good fix, it would be good to just be able to play games nicely without having to root and run a booster app.
nice to get some feedback and i am glad that this workaround ... well... worked
guys really learn how to use the search functionality or at least google.
i really wonder how many of those threads are going to pop up.
i guess this issue will be adressed soon by htc if not our devs surely will as it simply is a software-issue
I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
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I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
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I played the NFL game, and it ran fine on my HOX+
I would recommend the HOX+ over the SGS3, especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom.
epictylerone said:
I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
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Is there an app that shows FPS? I will kindly test games out for you if there is something to measure FPS. From what I can tell though is that there is little to no lag.
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I am a proud owner of the HTC One X+ but i must say that the galaxy siii is better for gaming in general especially gameloft games. The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores. With gaming boost most games will run very smoothly without full effects however if you wish to mod the games to gain gsiii grade graphical effects most of the games will run around 25-60fps with gaming boost of course. The One X+ is better than the siii for emulators, running fpse with opengl at full speed without frameskip. The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems. Overall i believe that the One X+ is a better device than the gsiii due to the great matte finish and screen also THD games are a pleasure to play.
Hi, I am a n00b, this will be my first android/smartphone and I need some clarification.
"The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores."
What is gaming boost? Is it an app that I can find on the Play Store?
" The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems."
Could you define 'tweaking', I jailbroke my iPod touch, so is it similair to jailbreaking an ios device?
" especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom."
What is a custom rom?
Also, if someone knows how to add actual quotes it would be much appreciated.
ryanjsoo said:
I am a proud owner of the HTC One X+ but i must say that the galaxy siii is better for gaming in general especially gameloft games. The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores. With gaming boost most games will run very smoothly without full effects however if you wish to mod the games to gain gsiii grade graphical effects most of the games will run around 25-60fps with gaming boost of course. The One X+ is better than the siii for emulators, running fpse with opengl at full speed without frameskip. The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems. Overall i believe that the One X+ is a better device than the gsiii due to the great matte finish and screen also THD games are a pleasure to play.
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dinkelstefan said:
I played the NFL game, and it ran fine on my HOX+
I would recommend the HOX+ over the SGS3, especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom.
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Could you post a youtube video please. Pretty please with a strawberry on top
A custom ROM is a modification tha you can do to your phone's software. The HTC one x plus comes with jelly bean 4.1 and htc sense as its default software. You can change how your phone works when you install or flash a custom ROM. ROMs vary from device to device so you have to pick the right one for your phone. ROMs can change settings, user interface, remove bloat ware, and much more.
epictylerone said:
Hi, I am a n00b, this will be my first android/smartphone and I need some clarification.
"The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores."
What is gaming boost? Is it an app that I can find on the Play Store?
" The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems."
Could you define 'tweaking', I jailbroke my iPod touch, so is it similair to jailbreaking an ios device?
" especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom."
What is a custom rom?
Also, if someone knows how to add actual quotes it would be much appreciated.
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The gpu is linked to the cpu to save battery, for example if a thd game like shadowgun is played all four cpu cores will be used and the gpu will scale up to 512mhz, however if you run a gameloft game only one or two cores are used and the gpu throttles down to 50% making the game stutter. Gaming boost optimizes the cpu governor and unlinks the gpu from the cpu. By tweaks i mean scripts, roms and kernels, all that recquire rooting. Rooting is actually much simpler than jailbreaking an ios device, just download the noobproof tool box in the development section. As far a battery life and heat, better than the original One X but a tad worse than a gsiii. This is mainly due to the bright display and HTC`s poor software but is easily fixed with the insertcoin rom which has the option to reduce autobrightness and drastically increase batterylife.
gaming boost:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260
Dfballa said:
A custom ROM is a modification tha you can do to your phone's software. The HTC one x plus comes with jelly bean 4.1 and htc sense as its default software. You can change how your phone works when you install or flash a custom ROM. ROMs vary from device to device so you have to pick the right one for your phone. ROMs can change settings, user interface, remove bloat ware, and much more.
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So, which ROM do you recommend? Or, is it possible to root and still have sense 4+? I really like the interface. Is there also a "How to" root page somewhere? and like jailbreaking, does rooting void the warranty?
So only thd games run smooth and others wont? Im going to buy a new phone soon and i also wanna play some games on it.
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I make phonecalls on my phone, and game on my GTX 690
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Sure, my phone dont replaces my PC or console, anyway i play sometimes games on it and my one V is to small and to weak
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So, what I am getting at is if I want to be able to play gameloft games (Really, only NFL Pro) and other games (ie Angry Birds, Solipskier, etc) I need to root my device. What about SGS3? Can I just "pick up and play", or do I have to root as well. I have heard that rooting voids the warranty, and I kinda need the warranty just in case something happens.
However, would it be possible to show a video on what gaming is like with and without the boost. I would really appreciate it.
Lastly, which phone, HTC One X+ or Samsung Galaxy SIII is more "future-proof"?
Again, sorry for my many questions, but I am a n00b, and I need to know if I am making the right decision.
I think the sgs3 dont need to be rooted, it runs everything itselfs
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herthi said:
So only thd games run smooth and others wont? Im going to buy a new phone soon and i also wanna play some games on it.
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No, only gameloft games and some ea games will lag and that is only on stock, if you use gaming boost they will run almost as well as on an siii or iphone, games from other devs should all run well and emulators run better than on any other phone except maybe the new s4 pro phones however they have reduced performance due to heat throttling.
ryanjsoo said:
No, only gameloft games and some ea games will lag and that is only on stock, if you use gaming boost they will run almost as well as on an siii or iphone, games from other devs should all run well and emulators run better than on any other phone except maybe the new s4 pro phones however they have reduced performance due to heat throttling.
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Okay, so I should try out the gameloft games first, and if they are laggy then root or upgrade to SGS3. My follow up question is that I heard that some GL games do not support HOX/HOX+, and I was wondering which games are not compatible, or did they fix that issue?
As in topic i checked many,many 4.1.2 roms and even leaked 4.2.2 still i have lags in any 3d game.
Tried Perseus kernel as well as Siyah and more others.
In every combination this phone has massive lags on 3d games. 2d games run just perfect.
Tried every solution possible to free up ram and increase performance but nothing works.
Even stock roms lag on my international gt-i9300
Please XDA Community! Help me.
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As i checked 3d benchmarks i see there is massive lag in repetetive form.
Something like this:
1sec 50 fps
2-3sec 20fps
and back to 1sec 50fps
Checked in Quadrant,Antutu,3dmark
What games?
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Asphalt 7, Shadowgun, Gangstar (all of them), Nova, All gameloft other games.
And even something like Beach Buggy Blitz (almost no quaility graphics)
The lag seems to occur more frequently when i turn through streets in example gangstar, when device loads up textures or stuff...
Did you every try games immediately after fresh flash?
For example, wipe, flash rom, set up wizard, install game, play game?
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Just before writing this post i have flashed 4.1.2 rom and siyah kernel. Full wipe and everything. Even in system options i downed running applications to 1 and lagg is still visible as before.
Now i noticed every 10 seconds there is massive lag that drops down to something like 5fps fo 3 sec
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even my gt-i9000 works better in these games
That's pretty drastic. I'm not much of a gamer but I have some of the games you mentioned and never had this problem. I'm not sure what the solution is.
What other kernels have you tried? Perseus and siyah both change GPU stepping.
Do you ever find lags or freezes outside of games?
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I have lags only in 3d games. 2d games work like charm. Only once have keyboard lag. Do you think its hardware issue?
I have tried many more kernels and cant remember them all now. But tried every kernel i saw in developement page.
For ROMS i was using PardusROM, Android revolution( both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2) and some other like paranoid android
Downloading now RevivaROMv1. I will tell you how it works in 40 mins
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I thinks it's a kind of miracle. I did not flash this rom yesterday, but when i woke up, for last time i wanted to check and somewhat it all games run great with no lags. But there are still same lags in benchmarks. Dunno...