Just to clarify: I opened this thread because it is just fair! I don't want to be so dramatic! Just that you can see: I made a mistake and I will be bound! Another thing is: Please help me to make Whirleyes return from his decision! He is a great Dev and did / is doing awesome work for us!!!
This project is dead
If you've been a long time reader to xda, this drama happen a lot.
Well, this is another version of it.
Somebody just open a "Pandora’s box" by taking my work without permission.
I think I've explicitly say in few post above about not to include it in a ROM distributions. Maybe my English is bad.. I failed to make others understand.
Sorry
I decide to end this project. I'm out of motivation & energy to complete it.
I really feel sad about it this time & feeling like I'm not needed here.
I don't want to waste more of time to a community like this. Real life is what more important.
Refund
I really don't really have a big list on this, but if you've donated & feel cheated.
I'm willingly to refund your donation. Just PM me the email address your used when making that donation.
I'm sorry I end this in a cold blood. I hope I don't owe anyone anything.
Good bye & good luck
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Whirleyes wants to leave and closed all his bbm threads. Read the last post in BMM 0.3.0
This is my fault and I didn't want this. As Whirleyes wrote "someone" all people should know that it's ME. I am the bad guy, but I am standing to my mistakes!
I didn't took a whole work, I used one single module. Prior that I wrote to Whirleyes about that, wanted to know how to use and figured it out myself. I really had the first contact with BMM 0.3.0 a few hours ago. And I discovered the cpu_control module, which is also provides in the extra kernel modules which is os. And I really didn't read that post which he mentioned because I didn't used BMM 0.3 before.
You cam believe me that I didn't want to make Whirleyes (or anyone else here) sad and angry! My knowledge about this modules was, that it comes from milestone over clock and it's open source (Now after reading the thread (extra kernel modules) again more carefully I saw that it was his own module and I was totally wrong!! It ist just based on the milestone OC module, but he rewrote it. I jjust remebered before that his said in his thread that he didn't write these modules....I am very sorry about this). I noticed a new way to use it and included it into my project of course with credits. So, I didn't want to be responsible that one of our best devs here is leaving because I made an unwanted mistake. All of you should know that and here is my excuse!
I will remove the module as soon as I am back at home and I please Whirleyes not to leave. I am really really sorry!!! Everyone makes mistakes, right? So please forgive me mine and don't be angry. Just stay.
If you leave anyway, then anyone should know that I was my fault.
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I already wrote him a pm. I really hope he doesn't leave, I am not an asshole and I guess most of know that zoo.
I never stole a work from someone, only took with permission (and that was not much, the source from STS - how everyone does, and I used some FREE tweak scripts which were free to use but I don't use them anymore because it didn't work, FREE Apps - which is not a problem, and finally one single module which I thought was related to the extra kernel modules thread and these modules are from the milestone OC. I really didn't know that using this single module (of course WITH CREDITS inside the execute script and inside the roms thread) is that big mistake!) and as I already said this was a big a big mistake!
Sometimes people don't think about their things they do and sometimes people make mistakes. This time it was me, so I were really happy if he returns from that decision. I have explained the situation and wrote him personally. What can I do else?
I guess he didn't want to blame me and didn't mention my name. It is just fair that I tell you the truth.
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@dtrail
Don't blame yourself. I just had a bad day...
It just personal reason. I just fell stupid going home early every day just to have more time working for that project. I'm done fighting for it. It's not worth it.
I maybe finish it for personal use, but I'm done uploading it here.
You don't have to removed cpu_control. Consider that as my last gift. It's GPL & I'm obliged to provide the source code. I'll upload it on weekend.
Sent from my IS12M using xda app-developers app
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Mate, it's too late. I already did! And it's just fair. Anyway I think that if I hadn't do this, you wouldn't leave and close all your threads! I feel really bad now because I "opened Pandora's box". I don't want to be that asshole about who everryone talks "Oh look, that's that idiot who's steeling other's work". I know how bad that is, and I guess, now you know that it was an unwanted mistake. I guess this could happen to anybody. I should had you to ask for it BEFORE using it. But I wrote an request to you how to use it exactly, and there you can see that I didn't think carefully that moment.
But just to clarify: You are one of the greates dev in the Razr Community! If you really leave, then there aren't many good devs left here. And I guess I am not the only one who thinks that way. I hope that my "self-blaming-action" is excuse enough for you. Neverming, but I please you in the name of this community not to leave now. At least finish your great BMM and hopefully more stuff! I am not that skilled like you, still have too much things to learn around Android...
You dont have to blame yourself.
As whirleyes said he s living for bmm , and he s tired of that. I understand him and thank him for the time he spent and to allow me to follow his project from begining.
We are lucky to still have dev over this dead phone .
Anyway whirleyes we ll miss you and i wish you best for your life. Thanks for all your work you ve done over here
Nobody blames anybody.. We r humans born to make mistakes.. thats life.. We cannot please everybody.. Lets just move on... Jellybean is lurking in the corner, so no need to panic...
Sent from my XT910 using xda app-developers app
Come on everybody shake your hands...remember it' nearly Xmas
Sent from my XT910 using xda premium
Ouch this sucks! Whirley is a great dev. I hope hatchets can be buried and we will see some more work from him :S
Sent from my RAZR
Well, time to move on. I'll get Nexus 4 soon = no more waiting for updates, just pure Android OS.
Anyway, thanks whirleyes for everything (he saved my phone when I was bricked few weeks).
Thanks dtrail and all devs for your great work.
From what I understand, the little mistake made by dtrail was not the most important reason.
Being a developer needs an "iron moral" (I don't know if this expression exists in english lol)
Whirleyes is a basic developer for the Razr. Most users treats the devs like "workers" for US, the users, the ones who deserve everything perfect and NOW.
But noone really knows how much time and efforts the devs make. It's much more than they should need for making things just for them.
Of course not all users are like this, but I completely understand that most devs would feel a bit like whirleyes.
The entire community is the one to blame for this kind of things. And my advice for the devs would be to be a bit more "unfriendly" with the users. This doesn't mean being disgusting, but when you give all your patience, people tend to forget more easily that you are making a huge effort.
So I just can say thanks to whirleyes, and as I was thinking about making a little donation now that I have a paypal account, I'll make it. It's fair even if he is going to definitely abandon ProjectLense, because I have been using and will continue using it.
I don't want to waste more of time to a community like this. Real life is what more important.
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We wish you the best, enjoy your "real life" , but, honestly, I wish you have a really deserved rest, and some day come back, but never spending so much time and energy that will led you to a dead point like this.
Thank you whirleyes, and of course all the other devs.
Forget the last and move on, it's his decision to leave, things come and go. It's alright if he thinks of what an undeserrving community this is as a whole, but just because of the passing of one developer doesn't stop the rest of the community especially you dtrail, from contributing. I get that there's the prevailing situation of us thinking about who's right and wrong, but does it matter? If he's passing was to make the rest of the community stricken with guilt and come to a halt just because of him, I'd say **** it, let's move on and do without.
Damn, enough of this.. if one dev leaves then so be it... we cant please everybody... his contribution wont be forgotten... lets move on....
@blackhawk_LA
You got it right. Two posters after you just prove it.
@theZest,HSD-Pilot,lukas77,sevenup30,maarawoe&many more..
I forgot to thank you guys for the feedback.
today's a little bit unprofessional
I'm done here & you know where to find it.
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@blackhawk_LA
You got it right. Two posters after you just prove it.
@theZest,HSD-Pilot,lukas77,sevenup30,maarawoe&many more..
I forgot to thank you guys for the feedback.
today's a little bit unprofessional
I'm done here & you know where to find it.
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realtively new razr maxx user and haven't had enough time to talk to each other, but thanks foremost to you, whirleyes for those OC modules Really hoping the JB update will burn your desire once again in the future though
To be honest, Whirleys you dont need to leave for such a little thing. He said he was sorry and he clearly didn't know, now you're acting like a girl. Just my two cents. Hope u come back.
Edit: to clarify I mean that I hope you didnt leave because dtrail made this "mistake" otherwise, GL& hope to see u around here
I think you're wrong if you think you are not needed here, just look at the number of donwloads from the post and google play! We will miss you a lot, and for sure you'll be welcome if you change your mind for some reason. For now, we should respect your decision, developing is a really hard & altruistic work, and if you are tired of it all we have to say is good luck, and may the force be with you
I haven't used Whirlyeyes work so far but he really helped me with various posts here. I really think he should take some time to reconsider and i'll respect his decision as i respect his work here.
dtrail1 apologised formally imo and there's nothing else he can do . I'm sure he's not the only reason for Whirleyes decision.
Anyway i just wanted to say thanks Whirleyes and hope to see you around again.
What a pity... 70% of Russian users will miss you whirleyes because of some amazing piece of software
Anyway good luck my friend and big thanks for all you've done for us "common users".
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@blackhawk_LA
You got it right. Two posters after you just prove it.
@theZest,HSD-Pilot,lukas77,sevenup30,maarawoe&many more..
I forgot to thank you guys for the feedback.
today's a little bit unprofessional
I'm done here & you know where to find it.
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You will be missed mate!!
Are you going to develope for another device?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app
Just wanna say thanks to Whirleyes.
Let's hope you can still continue to work on RAZR projects in your free time if you ever get back the passion for it.
You said you're not needed here? That's rubbish. You produce one of the most exciting works around for RAZR.
I hope him could be back...He is a great developers and have made lots of great things.
Sent from my XT910 using xda app-developers app
It is sad to see whirleyes leaving Razr just becuase of bs. I've been following the development of this device since its launch, whirleyes was one of those unique guys who just contributed working products instead of giving false hopes with buggy products to the community, so, you'll definitly be missed, man !
All the best, sems.
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I just got bored and going to start dumping roms and repackaging. Don't take it personally.
These include OEMs only. Double check the packages before cooking to make sure they are complete. All the extra files are in a folder called EXTRAS.
This is only the first...more to come
Thanks to all the cooks. Because if it wasn't for them, this community wouldn't be as good as it is now.
mod - links removed.
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I just got bored and going to start dumping roms and repackaging. Don't take it personally.
These include OEMs only. Double check the packages before cooking to make sure they are complete. All the extra files are in a folder called EXTRAS.
This is only the first...more to come
NRG Rom 2.0 Build 41609
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I hope you got permission from NRG . . . . .
The energy roms are protected.. It's protected for a reason: the chef doesn't want his hardwork get stolen. What you are doing here is very rude and I've seem people got offended like this and stopped releasing whatever stuff they were doing.
So you better stop been a smart ass and delete you post.
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The energy roms are protected.. It's protected for a reason: the chef doesn't want his hardwork get stolen. What you are doing here is very rude and I've seem people got offended like this and stopped releasing whatever stuff they were doing.
So you better stop been a smart ass and delete you post.
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have you ever downloaded a song, movie, or tv show off the net, that is stealing.
if this is your opinion then everybody on here should delete half the post on here as you are stealing from microsoft/htc.
what ever happened to freedom of information
btw, did i use any profanity towards you
i side with taylor, most of the work done here is stealing or borrowing from the work of others, to ask one person to stop but not all the others is absurd.
I do really think it is common courtesy to ask the chef if it is ok, They have put alot of time and effort into creating these ROM's and being this is a community, the proper thing to do is ask!
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The energy roms are protected.. It's protected for a reason: the chef doesn't want his hardwork get stolen. What you are doing here is very rude and I've seem people got offended like this and stopped releasing whatever stuff they were doing.
So you better stop been a smart ass and delete you post.
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thats pretty ironic in this forum , we've been breaking protections to flash roms on htc hardware, i don't think we asked their permission. People do this because they can, and people like to share their work.
there can be no honor amungst theives. to avoid arguments, take these links down. thank you.
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there can be no honor amungst theives. to avoid arguments, take these links down. thank you.
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Before we rush to this decision perhaps the OP can ask Arrupenthal and NRG if it is ok?
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Before we rush to this decision perhaps the OP can ask Arrupenthal and NRG if it is ok?
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you do not take then ask, you ask then if ok you take what is given. Taking without asking is stealing. While this may not directly apply the principle should be the same.
Wow. You people asking him to remove his links are hypocrites. What are you even doing on this site!?
Everybody's willing to jump on a self-righteous band-wagon. Double-standard two-faced hypocrites.
Sure Taylor, why don't you ask permission if it's ok for you to post these because they stole them FIRST!
morons.
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Wow. You people asking him to remove his links are hypocrites. What are you even doing on this site!?
Everybody's willing to jump on a self-righteous band-wagon. Double-standard two-faced hypocrites.
Sure Taylor, why don't you ask permission if it's ok for you to post these because they stole them FIRST!
morons.
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ur a moron for not understand what were saying its not about the act of stealing its about respecting the work the chefs put into there roms.....shesh...
petermg said:
Wow. You people asking him to remove his links are hypocrites. What are you even doing on this site!?
Everybody's willing to jump on a self-righteous band-wagon. Double-standard two-faced hypocrites.
Sure Taylor, why don't you ask permission if it's ok for you to post these because they stole them FIRST!
morons.
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What exactly did we steal, moron ?
Our hard work into customizing these ROMs ? No.
My custom graphics and icons, created BY HAND, BY ME ? No.
The core OS and some HTC OEMs... Yes, I guess we stole those.. but WAIT.. that **** was already on my phone, so I guess I stole from myself.
Moron!
p.s. If you can't already tell, I'm not okay with someone just taking my stuff without asking first. Everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) I cook with is freely available on this forum if you search for it. The only thing I do is put it all together. And THAT's where the skill comes into play... and I don't appreciate THAT being stolen.
I don't know about this. I'm glad someone posted oems that I wanted. But not glad that you've posted the chef's work. I think you may be asked to remove things that the chefs have done themselves, such as NRGZ28's welcomeheads and graphics and icons and Aruppenthal's icons and graphics.
I've gotta jump in here. When a "chef" dumps the ROM from their device, is that not "stealing" from microsoft or HTC? There are people sitting at a computer coding all the software that work for these companies and putting in their hard work too. Did you ask them if it's OK to take their work, change it all up, then release it for free to the public? I think not.
That being said, I hardly think it is justified for ANYONE on this forum to release a customized ROM **(it's not THEIR ROM... In order for it to be YOUR ROM, YOU must hand write EVERYTHING from scratch, thus creating your own operating system)** to mandate to anyone that they must ask for permission to alter/relase anyones work.
Look at it this way - at least he mentioned whos ROM he dumpped! Many of the chefs here could take someone elses customized ROM, change it a little here and there, release it and call it their own.
QUOTE: rzanology "there can be no honor amungst theives"
I cannot agree more. Think of it this way. I break into a car and steal it. while I'm at the local stop-n-rob, someone hops in the car and steals it from me... I can't exactly report it stolen because I did not legally obtain it.
Make sense?
p.s. NGR, sorry to say but your argument is null and void.
"My custom graphics and icons, created BY HAND, BY ME ? No." - Were the original graphics not created by someone? You took THEIR work and altered/deleted it.
"The core OS and some HTC OEMs... Yes, I guess we stole those.. but WAIT.. that **** was already on my phone, so I guess I stole from myself." - I have a problem with this one too. Basically you are stating that once you buy something, you alone own every right to it. What's this RIAA thing... y'know, buying CD's and sharing them for FREE. Hmmmm. sounds kinda familiar wouldn't you agree? Oh posh, legalities.
Educate yourself.
i tried to avoid this. thread will now be locked. i hope to hear nothing more about this. have a great weekend folks.
where is monx and where are all his fabulous roms?????
if there were any troubles, let's bring him back together. however we can do that...
mr.monx, could you please take the floor.
i'm going to also ask, that no one post anything until monx has said his part.
i just realized his threads are gone. what happenned?
Dear all valued friends,
I will no longer as a custom rom builder here (i prefer this word rather than cook/chef) but I will always be around as ur close friend. I will try my best to help anybody need my assistance in rom development or anything I can help. My future (ROMeOS² / ROMeOS³) will available to all listed in my sponsors list in my private site (monx dot info) [will be updated soon].
Thanks a lot for ur supports & xda-developers has nothing todo with this decision.
Best regards,
monx®omeos
That's sad I just discovered you and your wonderful roms .
Why did you also delete the threads by the way? You could leave the old Rom topics open?
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That's sad I just discovered you and your wonderful roms .
Why did you also delete the threads by the way? You could leave the old Rom topics open?
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Because it will bring more hopes & I dont want to disappoint anybody
this is truly the saddest day in raph rom developpement history. i wish you good luck and thank you for all the great roms you've released.
So, now Your ROM's will become a paid software? Donate to get a ROM?
@krogoth
no. nobody is forced to do so & it will be always as freeware. There are a lot of better ROM out there & even u can make it urself. A paid things will have a price. Mine is enough if u show a very tiny appreciation to my little effort.
It a kind of pointless of countless sleepless hours to serve someone who dont even need it.
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this is truly the saddest day in raph rom developpement history. i wish you good luck and thank you for all the great roms you've released.
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bro, i will provide future updates to all sponsors. it will be available at my site. I'm just want to be a normal member here with no pressure
Damn sad to hear .
Thank you for all the great (public) ROM-releases you brought to us / XDA in the past Monx, it was great being a ROMEOS user / fanboy!!!
[edit] Could you not just lock the threads instead of delete them? There was some handy info floating around that could be of use still.
Anyway, it's allready too late I guess [/edit]
WTF! What was happened here?!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I'll miss your ROMs and thanks for all the effort monx.
where can i download the latest roms, and has someone backuped the infos anywhere?
tonight, a friend comes extra to me that i flash it for me,
he drives 600km one way...
hope there is anything till 5 PM....
what happened actually monx?i thot u are still in exciting of cooking ur WM6.5 rom?
p/sapehal pon time kasih bro..lulz
Really sad to hear you'll be leaving Monx.
Especially with the new 6.5 ROM you proved to be again ahead of the rest.
But why delete the threads?
Even though most input to a thread is typically provided by the topic starter/chef, I'd like to think we all put our collective knowledge into it.
To just delete all of that because someone decides to move on feels wrong.
You've got to be ****ting me...
Finally a stable 6.5 and your brain decides it needs a rest . Well you deserve it. You could always opt for a little more arrogance .Something like THIS IS MY ROM, enjoy. I will update WHEN I FEEL LIKE IT.... just an idea
No worries, I'll keep checkin your site. One question though, how do I report bugd, or is that the first arrogance part
tks a lot for all, and u hahe my comprension..
ciao, see u in your territory ^^
Thank you for all your efforts in xda-developers. Your roms was always the best out there for me. Thank you again. Wish you all the best!!
Thank you for your hard work, monx.
Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
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Who the hell are you to tell someone to take some time to do anything for you? Did your mother teach you ANY manners? These people do these things without any guarantee of payment, so unless your gonna put some cash up, I suggest you learn some of said manners.
Father_Vic said:
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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So what? Because you ran into bad luck they OWE you something? I Hope everyone here who cares to support the devs submits a false answer to your poll so that it never does you one scrap of good. Maybe when you will learn some humility you can come back and PROPERLY ask them for something.
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Who the hell are you to tell someone to take some time to do anything for you? Did your mother teach you ANY manners? These people do these things without any guarantee of payment, so unless your gonna put some cash up, I suggest you learn some of said manners.
So what? Because you ran into bad luck they OWE you something? I Hope everyone here who cares to support the devs submits a false answer to your poll so that it never does you one scrap of good. Maybe when you will learn some humility you can come back and PROPERLY ask them for something.
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Amen to that. This is the kind of bullsh** that makes devs run away from our community, not towards it. If you want to ***** at somebody, call up HTC and tell them you can't root your phone. I'm sure they will be VERY sympathetic and offer to send you an Incredible instead.
lol sucks for u
You are a prime example of a entitlement complex. Seriously, they already dedicate all their spare time to us and helping us. If you're so pissy about it, you find out a way and help the community, don't sit there and *****.
I can pretty much guarantee you the SECOND you get root, you won't give a **** about any non-rooted people and only focus on ROMs.
Do you also expect verizon to erect a cell tower near your house and a mini AP in your car so you have perfect service wherever you go?
+1 to everything said above, also learn to search, there is already a root method for 1.49 s-on you idiot. The great devs of our commmunity already found an amazing loop
I LOL at you.
if I were a dev, i would stop working on rooting 1.49 after a post like this.
As a non-dev, I am disheartened to see this type of post in the Development thread. Have you seen the number of posts in the 1.49 leak-root threads? There are currently folks working on two distinct methods of rooting - isn't that proof enough for you? Also, was anyone here responsible for "making" you go to the leaked version? No? Well then why are the dev's responsible for giving you a cookie for the decision you made?
Also, to all of the people that say, "I can't be bothered to read all 100+ pages" or similar - please do. 99.9% of the time you will find the answer to your question within those posts - or hey, try the magical search box.
I personally want to thank the dev's that have been helping us with finding just the right exploit. As you can see, there has been a lot of work looking at the leak, RUU, hboot, and various methods to finally achieve [an easy way to] root the Eris. This community has been extremely helpful, innovative, and downright awesome in helping folks like me learn the ins and outs of the Android System and the Eris. Don't screw it up for the rest of us.
Mean ol' devs..
Y'all BETTER be working on root for Eris, or I'll... I'll..
I'll get REALLY mad..
In all seriousness, the points made in the responses are valid.. Father_Vic chose poor wording to express frustration, and some of his frustrations are borne out of simply being unaware of some things..
Root for 2.1 in general is being sought actively by all sorts of devs and would-be devs. I'm pretty sure there are fewer and fewer devs working directly on Eris, other than to try to make holes found elsewhere a little bit more open to the masses, a la the efforts by Tereg and company.
Are they working on it night and day? Hellz no. After you've tried the same stuff over and over a few times, you move on to either new angles on old stuff, or new stuff, altogether. Otherwise, people call you crazy or naive.
This poll seems like it'd be helpful on the surface, if just to provide reassurance for us poor 1.49ers without root, but the ones that respond affirmatively may or may not be totally clueless when it comes to anything other that running downloaded scripts, and as for the devs that really do understand, well..
Don't worry about this stuff running devs off.. The real devs LOVE to solve problems, because it's like crack cocaine to figure stuff out, and what they really don't give 2 $hitz about is polls..
Can we get this thread moved to General? Not sure that just deleting it would help anybody..
+1 to all said
if you really wanted root than maybe you should learn how to develop and try and find it yourself
I have uncovered the PERFECT root method for 1.49 bootloader. BUT after reading this so called post, I now refuse to ever release it. bwahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
no seriously...come on dude. little...well rude wasnt it.
We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions; "flame on" from the rooted majority.
Not entitlement - just wondering if those of us fending for ourselves are getting any help from those who can.
BTW - to assert that we just go ahead and learn what the devs know really is insulting to the devs. All the time, effort, education, and knowledge that they have is not something that we can all just learn to do in a couple of days.
I knew the flame was coming....
Keep going, it actually makes pretty fun reading.
Father_Vic said:
Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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u sir are a douche bag get a life and root ur own friggen phone , u need a tissue ? u need a hug? god damn ITS JUST A FRIGGEN PHONE !!!!!
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u sir are a douche bag get a life and root ur own friggen phone , u need a tissue ? u need a hug? god damn ITS JUST A FRIGGEN PHONE !!!!!
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Have you got a hug for me...?
This is the most fun I have ever had on a forum. I love to watch this forum go apesh!t.
pass the popcorn.
Father_Vic said:
Have you got a hug for me...?
This is the most fun I have ever had on a forum. I love to watch this forum go apesh!t.
pass the popcorn.
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really ? ur doin it for fun ? looks to me all ur doin is pissing people off and not wantin to help people who want to be rooted .me myself , i am rooted but i was tryin to look into wayz to help u guys out , now i may or may not because of people like u
Father_Vic said:
We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions; "flame on" from the rooted majority.
Not entitlement - just wondering if those of us fending for ourselves are getting any help from those who can.
BTW - to assert that we just go ahead and learn what the devs know really is insulting to the devs. All the time, effort, education, and knowledge that they have is not something that we can all just learn to do in a couple of days.
I knew the flame was coming....
Keep going, it actually makes pretty fun reading.
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I have a rooted phone, replacement on the way, I'm not getting my hopes up for a 1.47 hboot im sure 1.49 will come unfortunately, and seeing the low success rate with the current root methods I'm afraid im gunna hate my Eris again, and now any devs who were putting their FREE time in to help with something that doesn't even benefit them as they are already rooted. Thanks for pushing people away from helping us, and it's just great that it is all fun and games to u. I understand were u are coming from, but this is just bull crap. thanks for nothin.
Father_Vic said:
We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions;.
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Up to this point you seem to almost have found some humility. Keep the attitude portrayed here and maybe send out a few PMs asking for help, politely, you may get somewhere, you may not... I GUARANTEE you get farther than your first post.
And as for some of the rest of your comments, MANY a "dev" has started not with college, but in the exact same place you are.
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I have a rooted phone, replacement on the way, I'm not getting my hopes up for a 1.47 hboot im sure 1.49 will come unfortunately, and seeing the low success rate with the current root methods I'm afraid im gunna hate my Eris again, and now any devs who were putting their FREE time in to help with something that doesn't even benefit them as they are already rooted. Thanks for pushing people away from helping us, and it's just great that it is all fun and games to u. I understand were u are coming from, but this is just bull crap. thanks for nothin.
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If it is a referb phone, you have some hope. I just got my Eris replacement (after rooting 2.1), and it was 1.5 with a 1.47 bootloader, so there is some hope.
i was working on root until i saw this post. its idiots like you that piss off the devs and make us go elsewhere.
if you are posting this just for fun, to get the laughs and eat your popcorn, then f&%# off. we dont want you here, demand things from the devs, demanding we speak up so you know who we are. if you really want to know who the devs are, that will most likely be anyone on there with more than 200+ posts. the ones that you know there nicks to because they spend most of their time on here posting to help n00bs like you out getting root, or answering the question of which rom is the best or how to install your bootanimation file.
you really want to know who the devs are? they are the ones that sit in the irc channel all day (chat.andirc.net) and are any of the ops on there, or have a uptime of 72hours straight.
you want me to compose a list of all the devs, and then another list of all the devs working on root for you?
here is that list for you:
http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451eb0069e2011570ea5170970c-800wi
Hey guys! I don't want anyone to see this as fishing for compliments or thanks, so let's kill that idea first.
I was recently nominated and accepted as a Recognized Contributor here on xda, so I just wanted to kinda give you guys a formal and friendly introduction.
Username: RegnierD -> IRL: Todd
I've been an Android geek for nearly two years now, and have absorbed a lot of information in that time. While I may not be able to build my own rom or submit fixes on github, I do retain information very well and try to help out everywhere I can. I just want everyone to know that if you guys ever need help with something or just need a little guidance, feel free to ask me and I'll do the best I can to respond in a timely manner. I know the big world of root and custom roms can be a bit daunting at first, but that's why we help our newer members learn rather than gripe at them.
You guys can either post questions here or PM me, but I do ask that you try and figure it out on your own first. You'll learn a lot more that way. I promise, that's how I learned everything I know.
Devs, this goes for you too. If you need a last minute tester for something, I'm almost always available to help. I'm willing to switch roms on a dime and flash/push files to the phone. I'll be putting my GTalk ID on my profile soon, so you guys can reach me if need be.
I hope I can be as useful as possible to you guys! Happy rooting to you!
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
RegnierD said:
Hey guys! I don't want anyone to see this as fishing for compliments or thanks, so let's kill that idea first.
I was recently niminated and accepted as a Recognized Contributor here on xda, so I just wanted to kinda give you guys a formal introduction.
Username: RegnierD -> IRL: Todd
I've been an Android geek for nearly two years now, and have absorbed a lot of information in that time. While I may not be able to build my own rom or submit fixes on github, I do retain information very well. I just want everyone to know that if you guys ever need help with something or just need a little guidance, feel free to ask me and I'll do the best I can to respond in a timely manner. I know the big world of root and custom roms can be a bit daunting at first, but that's why we help our newer members learn rather than gripe at them.
You guys can either post questions here or PM me, but I do ask that you try and figure it out on your own first. You'll learn a lot more that way. I promise, that's how I learned everything I know.
I hope I can be as useful as possible to you guys! Happy rooting to you!
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
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thanks brO!! its nice to see there still are some decent people who are here to help.. i respect that..
same here...good to see some more help for sure. But anyways ive just got one question here for ya and you may or may not be able to help me. ive tried to ask this in the forums and haven't got an answer so here it goes.
My phone gets warm up around the camera area almost immediately it seams like. it starts when i start using data such as scrolling around Facebook or downloading an app, etc...and was just wondering if that's normal or should i get a replacement? $590 bucks is a lot for a phone and i just want it right ya know.
Now the only reason i ask this is cuz my gnex does the same thing but it gets really hot after about 15 to 20 mins of using data.
thanks a lot for all your hard work and support for dummies like me that dont know anything lol...
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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AFAIK camera is broken in all new KitKat roms. If you need working cameras use Jelly Bean or ICS builds.
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Odysseus1962 said:
Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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"bit and bites"...
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I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Odysseus1962 said:
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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pbergonzi said:
I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
Bugaman said:
Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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Bugaman said:
Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat. If I (someone with no formal IT training and a HS diploma from 30 years ago) can figure this out in my off-time, between dealing with work, and my family, what's your excuse? All you had to do was look at my profile before speaking out of the wrong orifice, and you'd know this.
It appears you're even less capable than I gave you credit for in my previous post, since you show a proclivity for being unable to read or do research, and have wedged your foot so far into you mouth that it's impossible to extricate. I've forgotten more than you've ever learned (obviously not a high bar to leap over). Unlike yourself, I contribute here towards providing useful info and help to others who're willing to help themselves. Hence, my high ratio of thanks to posts in a short time here. You, on the other hand, have never provided one bit of useful information in your much longer time on the board (which is easily verified by searching your previous posts).
I don't pretend to be smarter than you, I know I am! That's because I have enough common sense to know my abilities and limitations, something you obviously lack. You seem to have selected an apropos handle, "Insectman." So by all means, obliviously continue along in your vacuous ways, and slither back into the damp crevice you were hiding in. Have a nice day!!!!
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat.
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You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
sam_conrad said:
You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
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I'm sorry, he's rude? LOL Bruh, look at his thanks meter. He's HELPING people. He knows his stuff, so he deserves to have an ego. ESPECIALLY since he built his own ROM.
But I guess you're too fat headed yourself to be humble and accept the fact that this thread could have been avoided if the OP had just read the changelog. Let's face it, if by some mishap the OP had bricked his device he'd be crying for help (just like I did) and I know for a fact that I didn't read anything before (cause I was stupid, and I can acknowledge the fact that I used to be ignorant and now I take the time to read through the forums properly before I post unnecessarily, and Ody here has helped me a great deal.)
So before you go calling people rude and judge them prematurely, take a minute to really think about what you want to post.
PS. he did apologize, so I see no need for you to be bashing him still. I, on the other hand, don't give a damn.
I'm bored, so I went through the Q&A
Remind me not to do this again.
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
Did you maked backup of your last rom
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
backup?
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DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
Odysseus1962 said:
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
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This is a much more noble reply. While you're extremely helpful to the community, and I never disagreed that you are, it's no excuse to be an ass. There is never a "deserving right" to be rude in any case. In my world, at least, the people treat each other with respect or they're gone. I know that I don't have time to deal with people that don't want to move forward and get along. Regardless of how stupid some peers might seem, or how smart one may believe he/she is, I think showing some humility and always staying grounded goes a long way.
I often tell people that some of the world's greatest minds are the dumbest of us all - some of your behavior represented why. When we're in an advantaged position of knowledge, we should encourage others to learn from us, not the other way around.
@Darin_Ram - no need to throw personal jabs at me, trying to tell me I'm full of myself (or "fat headed"), please and thank you. I don't claim to be a genius in any regard, and especially not the mobile space. I just have found Ody on a few too many accounts to be unnecessarily rude... My own focus is on computer networking and desktop PCs. :good: I usually reside at XtremeSystems.org and HWBOT.org due to my hobby of extreme LN2 overclocking.
Use original rom of htc
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
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BEST OPTION EVER AFTER GETTING THROUGH ALL THE ROM FROM DEV FORUM I FOUND THAT NO ONE IS PROPER AND COMPATIBLE FOR OUR DEVICE ONLY ORIGINAL ROM ALLOW YOU TO USE ALL THE FEATURE STRESS FREE + STABLE VERSION BE SMART !
ONE DAY YOU HAVE TO BACK AGAIN FOR THIS ROM .. I ALWAYS DO SO .. MAY BE EXPERIENCED PERSON AGREE WITH ME !
:good:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads