Hi there,
I see this subject is discussed a lot, and I can't make heads or tails of the truth. I have a Verizon Droid RAZR XT912 on ICS. I plan to go to Canada for Xmas and I've read that ICS unlocked the GSM portion for non-domestic GSM carriers. So, trying to figure out if I'll be able to buy a GSM card from Rogers, Fido, etc, in Canada and use my phone there. If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate hearing about it! Thank you!
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So I bought a new SGII 1777 for a really good deal. Brand new out of box, etc. Anyways, T-mobile is my carrier. I was able to root the phone and unlock it. The strange thing is that now that my T-mobile SIM card is in this AT&T phone, I am not getting 4g. I am only getting "E" coverage. I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432. Am I missing something? Is it firmware? Kernel? currently, kernel in phone is 2.6.35.7 with Gingerbread.UCKH7. I'm in the US, so if any of this info helps my cause please assist. Any advice/help/suggestions are welcome. Thanks XDA!
Brobarian said:
So I bought a new SGII 1777 for a really good deal. Brand new out of box, etc. Anyways, T-mobile is my carrier. I was able to root the phone and unlock it. The strange thing is that now that my T-mobile SIM card is in this AT&T phone, I am not getting 4g. I am only getting "E" coverage. I followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432. Am I missing something? Is it firmware? Kernel? currently, kernel in phone is 2.6.35.7 with Gingerbread.UCKH7. I'm in the US, so if any of this info helps my cause please assist. Any advice/help/suggestions are welcome. Thanks XDA!
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Your on E and you will continue to be on E. The AT&T phone dosent support 3G/4G Tmo bands.
You won't get anything faster than Edge with an att phone on T-Mobile. Hardware is the cause.
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Sledutah said:
You won't get anything faster than Edge with an att phone on T-Mobile. Hardware is the cause.
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The exception would be some of their LTE phones reflashed with a T-Mobile radio. Pretty much Skyrocket and Note and that's it.
This is because AT&T uses 1700 MHz for LTE and T-Mo uses it for 3G, and other than the radio firmware the T989 and Skyrocket are almost identical.
Right now, with the exception of the above cases and the international unlocked Galaxy Nexus (which is pentaband HSPA) - only T-Mobile USA phones will get 3G on T-Mo USA. There may be a small handful of other exceptions, but very few non-Tmo devices support 1700 MHz.
Some research could've prevented this. Or just buy the phone made for T-Mobile.
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thanks for the quick responses everyone. I just sold the phone for more than I bough it for. Going to get the T-Mobile one like I should have in the first place
Just curios how much did u sell it for? New or used when u bought it?
Hi,
I live overseas and my network uses GSM 800/900/1900/2100 and UMTS 850/1900 (sams as AT&T)
All Verizon Razr come with SIM slot?
Are they UMTS 850/1900 compatible? Will I get 3G and H data?
What about Razr MAXX? Does it come with SIM slot?
I need to SIM unlock it or is it ready to put any micro SIM?
Hope you can enlighten me with this info.
Best Regards.
MGA2009 said:
Hi,
I live overseas and my network uses GSM 800/900/1900/2100 and UMTS 850/1900 (sams as AT&T)
All Verizon Razr come with SIM slot?
Are they UMTS 850/1900 compatible? Will I get 3G and H data?
What about Razr MAXX? Does it come with SIM slot?
I need to SIM unlock it or is it ready to put any micro SIM?
Hope you can enlighten me with this info.
Best Regards.
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the cdma and gsm razr both have the same razr, with the cdma razr on ics you can use non U.S. sims no problem. so if you are oversea from the us you could get the branded cdma razr cheap, put it on ICS and use your sim. it should get 3g/H as my razr (gsm did with an at&t sim) so in global mode the cdma should
(don't take me a100% on this, but i am sure from what i read, but i am in the us. so i can't test it myself. maybe wait till someone else chimes in)
my questions is similar to this one if anyone could help..thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811981
ooohhaaahh said:
the cdma and gsm razr both have the same razr, with the cdma razr on ics you can use non U.S. sims no problem. so if you are oversea from the us you could get the branded cdma razr cheap, put it on ICS and use your sim. it should get 3g/H as my razr (gsm did with an at&t sim) so in global mode the cdma should
(don't take me a100% on this, but i am sure from what i read, but i am in the us. so i can't test it myself. maybe wait till someone else chimes in)
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Thanks for your reply.
I am asking this (and so is my friend on the post above this one) because Verizon CDMA phones are always cheaper than GSM.... even cheaper if the have BAD ESN...
So, every Motorola RAZR have micro SIM Slot? Are they unlocked or I need to buy the code? Do you remember the Droid 2 Global? Those had SIM slot's but some of them had they unlock code changed and were IMPOSSIBLE to unlock... hope this is not the case with the RAZR.
ooohhaaahh said:
the cdma and gsm razr both have the same razr, with the cdma razr on ics you can use non U.S. sims no problem. so if you are oversea from the us you could get the branded cdma razr cheap, put it on ICS and use your sim. it should get 3g/H as my razr (gsm did with an at&t sim) so in global mode the cdma should
(don't take me a100% on this, but i am sure from what i read, but i am in the us. so i can't test it myself. maybe wait till someone else chimes in)
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@ooohhaaahh. Your RAZR works on gsm network (AT&T)?
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MGA2009 said:
Thanks for your reply.
I am asking this (and so is my friend on the post above this one) because Verizon CDMA phones are always cheaper than GSM.... even cheaper if the have BAD ESN...
So, every Motorola RAZR have micro SIM Slot? Are they unlocked or I need to buy the code? Do you remember the Droid 2 Global? Those had SIM slot's but some of them had they unlock code changed and were IMPOSSIBLE to unlock... hope this is not the case with the RAZR.
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from what i've read on the forums you need to either put the verizon razr on ice cream sadwhich (4.0.4) or use the hack to enable global mode in gingerbread (2.3.x)
so no unlock code. and yes, the verizon razr uses the micro sim for 4g lte sim
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@ooohhaaahh. Your RAZR works on gsm network (AT&T)?
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i have the gsm version (xt910, sorry i wasn't as clear about that as i thought, i said gsm, should've put xt910)
the xt910 has the cdma disabled and the xt912 has american gsm blocked.
and I've seen a few people claiming they flashed an xt910 to a cdma network like metro (it does have the radio, and couldn't the flashing program give them the esn/ect?
but i use it on simple mobile (so only edge for me. i might go to t-mobiles $50 plan if the non throttled edge is faster)
Hey folks,
I have someone interested in buying my phone. They're on AT&T though (I'm on Verizon). I'm rooted with a custom rom, so I told them it works on AT&T, since I know you can load GSM radios and stuff. I just want to make sure I'm not lying or stretching the truth. Is there any limitations to the GSM? Is it missing any AT&T bands that most AT&T phones come with? Is it slower or have lower call quality or anything like that? Anything I should forewarn them about?
Thanks!!!!
I am using my DNA on AT&T. Everything works just fine. I don't know what Rom you have flashed but some of us GSM guys have or had problems with mms. Sometimes the way to fix it is to install a 3rd party text program. Also, we can't get LTE since the DNA doesn't support AT&T's LTE bands but it does get 3G just fine.
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Hello Xda I have a really important question. Im thinking about buying a razr maxx for verizon. The model us different its a xt912m. But my question is, does this phone have any gsm support at all for out of the country (U.S)? Ive searched everywhere on the net for this information and cant seem to find it. Everyone either has another version of the maxx (xt910, xt912, or xt913) but very few with the "M" after the 912. and so I cant get the actual information. Its a 16gb phone with 1 gb of ram. I guess it was a limited edition. Can it be unlocked or support gsm cellular bands at all? Thanks!
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Hello Xda I have a really important question. Im thinking about buying a razr maxx for verizon. The model us different its a xt912m. But my question is, does this phone have any gsm support at all for out of the country (U.S)? Ive searched everywhere on the net for this information and cant seem to find it. Everyone either has another version of the maxx (xt910, xt912, or xt913) but very few with the "M" after the 912. and so I cant get the actual information. Its a 16gb phone with 1 gb of ram. I guess it was a limited edition. Can it be unlocked or support gsm cellular bands at all? Thanks!
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If you want a gsm its the xt910, I believe. The xt912 and its variants are all CDMA.
Ok, so i'm starting a new thread regarding the MOTOROLA RAZR MAXX, not to be confused with the VERIZON Droid Razr Maxx. I have a Motorola razr maxx XT908, it is GSM and UMTS compatible and CDMA as well. I've spoken with Verizon, AT&T, Net10, Motorola and asurion and nobody can help me. However, the phone is capable of 3g GSM HSDPA , so I'll need to remove the Verizon XT912 software and find GSM HSDPA compatible software. This isn't a case of simply wanting to move to another network, it's driven by the lack of Verizon service at my home.
Basically its an XT908 that thinks it's an XT912. Since I won't be using the MEID number with CDMA it will work with a GSM 3g HSDPA sim card.
Does anyone know what software is available out there to make this happen? Thanks!
How can I convert razr xt912 to an xt910 GSM , it's an xt908
Can Someone tell me, step by step what I need to do to convert my Motorola razr maxx xt908 which is running Verizon xt912 to an xt910 for use on US GSM hsdpa networks? This phone is unrooted, bone stock and I need clear instructions on what I need to complete this. I'm completely lost in the wasteland of information on rooting, backing up and what I need to do this. I will glady donate to a reliable source for this operation.
Is there a way to wipe the traces of Verizon's system version, baseband version , etc and install a GSM based version?
There must be!!
I'm confused why you think you have the xt908 if it has the VZW xt912 software and it's never been modified. Just because the phones share most everything does not mean the software / firmware is compatible between the 2. For future reference, some of the Motos can be unlocked, and the xt912 is already unlocked for international use (after the ICS update and beyond) but will not work in the US for GSM. The xt907 and xt926 (some variants) can but the quest for unlocking the xt912 for domestic GSM use never went anywhere.
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es0tericcha0s said:
I'm confused why you think you have the xt908 if it has the VZW xt912 software and it's never been modified. Just because the phones share most everything does not mean the software / firmware is compatible between the 2. For future reference, some of the Motos can be unlocked, and the xt912 is already unlocked for international use (after the ICS update and beyond) but will not work in the US for GSM. The xt907 and xt926 (some variants) can but the quest for unlocking the xt912 for domestic GSM use never went anywhere.
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I've researched it, I spoke with asurion, they sent me this NIB Motorola razr maxx xt908 after they sent me a refurbed phone that still had problems. I spoke with tech support and asked them if they provide this phone to non Verizon customers and he said yes. The bottom line is, the phone has both cdma radio and GSM, but the Verizon model has the gsm usage blocked in the US, all I'm looking to do is convert this phone over to a GSM based software, similar to what Asurion does when they get an order to replace a phone. If you are Asurion, wouldn't you want one model phone that you can configure for use with any carrier? So they get the order to replace, load the Verizon firmware, pack it up and ship it out. I also spoke with Motorola about this, they didn't say it couldn't be done, all they said was I'll void the warranty. The phone was new, it says XT908 right on it, so obviously its able to run different versions of firmware, otherwise I would have an xt912. not an xt908 running Verizon firmware. There is no branding on this phone, it does not say Verizon on it.
This is what I want to do: back up the phone using android SDK, completely wipe the phone, not factory reset, no safestrap, then install xt910 firmware for use with gsm carriers. My only other options are to ebay it for 100 bux or give it to my kids to play on. The problem I'm having is finding accurate resources with links that work to complete it.
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I've researched it, I spoke with asurion, they sent me this NIB Motorola razr maxx xt908 after they sent me a refurbed phone that still had problems. I spoke with tech support and asked them if they provide this phone to non Verizon customers and he said yes. The bottom line is, the phone has both cdma radio and GSM, but the Verizon model has the gsm usage blocked in the US, all I'm looking to do is convert this phone over to a GSM based software, similar to what Asurion does when they get an order to replace a phone. If you are Asurion, wouldn't you want one model phone that you can configure for use with any carrier? So they get the order to replace, load the Verizon firmware, pack it up and ship it out. I also spoke with Motorola about this, they didn't say it couldn't be done, all they said was I'll void the warranty. The phone was new, it says XT908 right on it, so obviously its able to run different versions of firmware, otherwise I would have an xt912. not an xt908 running Verizon firmware. There is no branding on this phone, it does not say Verizon on it.
This is what I want to do: back up the phone using android SDK, completely wipe the phone, not factory reset, no safestrap, then install xt910 firmware for use with gsm carriers. My only other options are to ebay it for 100 bux or give it to my kids to play on. The problem I'm having is finding accurate resources with links that work to complete it.
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My understanding about the xt908 is that it is a different variant for smaller US CDMA carriers and isn't possible to unlock for GSM. Definitely wouldn't be able to put the xt910 firmware on there.
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es0tericcha0s said:
My understanding about the xt908 is that it is a different variant for smaller US CDMA carriers and isn't possible to unlock for GSM. Definitely wouldn't be able to put the xt910 firmware on there.
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this is my phone, http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_maxx-4666.php
the specs are primarily hsdpa gsm, umts
This is what my phone thinks it is via software and imei
notice CDMA is listed as other not the primary radio feature
Unfortunately, that's actually not it. That variant doesn't have CDMA meaning VZW software wouldn't work at all. Moto decided to do their model naming while they were drunk. They also have 2 different versions of the xt912 and xt926 (the it's just that Maxx and non Maxx variants, but still...) But yours is a repurposed one from a small CDMA carrier like this: Motorola RAZR™ MAXX XT908 • Illinois Valley Cellular These are NOT the same, despite the model # because they do make a CDMA xt908 and GSM only. The software / firmware will not be compatible between.
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