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To have a 3g data connection and a wifi connection working simultaneously yet independently of each other?
I want to purchase an air stash wireless media server so I can carry more of my music around with me.
The problem is when this thing is linked to my phone I won't have a 3g connection(because it connects as a wifi network)
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Why do you specifically need 3G when there's wifi around?
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Well the airstash has a wifi transmitter to connect to the phone to transfer and stream files, so if I'm not around wifi but want to use that I have to sacrifice a data connection because 3g turns off when connected to wifi
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Wow thanks, that is incredibly generous.
I don't want to take up a ton of your time so if it isn't too complex I could probably do it if pointed in the right direction.
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Why not just use Google music? I think it holds like 20,000 songs, its free, and works on any data connection
I've used Google music, I dedicated it to standout tracks but it has reached its end a while back and my phone is already refined to the point I don't want to move anything off it. I've been using box and dropbox, but my box account if full now too and dropbox is reaching that point in the next few weeks, so I figure the airstash and a 256gb sdxc card should last me a bit longer.
I know there seems like no reason to carry so much music around but once it leaves my phone and goes on my desktop hard drive it'll never be listened to again, essentially a music graveyard, so I try my best to delay the inevitable.
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I know there has to be a way, and I think I've seen it before..
The phone is fully capable of running both Wifi and 3G/4G network at the same time, because when you're on WiFi and you send/receive a MMS, then it does upload/download via data.
I'll look into it for you.
Sweet, I've been searching all over the place trying to find out how but can't seem to find anything
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I came across this while searching today, would this work?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10053643/can-wifi-direct-and-3g-data-session-concurrently-work
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I came across this while searching today, would this work?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10053643/can-wifi-direct-and-3g-data-session-concurrently-work
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It would work, but it would sure take you a while to get that working properly..
I would think that you could somehow tweak a file to allow them both since, as I said before, you can be on WiFi and download an MMS, which can go over 4G.
There's gotta be a way to trick android that it's downloading an MMS but it's really connecting you to 4G.
However, I have no idea how to do that, I'm not a developer.
I feel you would need some way of telling each individual application what connection to use in order for this to work right.
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I feel you would need some way of telling each individual application what connection to use in order for this to work right.
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I think your right.
But the downside to that is when you actually go to really use a WiFi network, the app will continue to run on Data.
Hmmm, well if a governor or a toggle were implemented, to determine what apps use what connection under what circumstances, I'm thinking it might be a good route to take
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brenstar said:
Hmmm, well if a governor or a toggle were implemented, to determine what apps use what connection under what circumstances, I'm thinking it might be a good route to take
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That's actually a good idea.
But, I'm not a developer, and I don't think you are either. So it would take some time to get this working.
Since you're considering a toggle now, maybe try posting in the general Android Q&A section also? They might be able to help you.
Sorry.
That is a good idea, I'm taking a bunch of programming classes this semester so I might make it a school project.
Thanks for the replies,
it gets the ideas flowing.
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That is a good idea, I'm taking a bunch of programming classes this semester so I might make it a school project.
Thanks for the replies,
it gets the ideas flowing.
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If you're in high school, those programming classes won't involve anything android related, trust me.
University however, make a Rom, that'll get you a good mark.
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Sounds to easy to be true, but I'll post it anyhow...
Doesn't putting the phone in hotspot mode access Data and repeat it over Wifi? So isn't the answer to simply put the phone in hotspot mode? I know the phone can still access the data while in hotspot mode, so external devices should also be able to talk to the android device as well; over the wifi correct? Unless there is a build in firewall w/port blocking... but I would put my bets on file sharing ports being open.
Yep its possible very possible
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Doesn't putting the phone in hotspot mode access Data and repeat it over Wifi? So isn't the answer to simply put the phone in hotspot mode? I know the phone can still access the data while in hotspot mode, so external devices should also be able to talk to the android device as well; over the wifi correct? Unless there is a build in firewall w/port blocking... but I would put my bets on file sharing ports being open.
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That totally makes sense that it would work, don't know why I didn't think of it.
I'll test it out when I get home.
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My mother in law just purchased this phone mainly to use as a mobile hot spot but windows keeps saying it is unable to connect. We have tried it with other devices(worked fine) and with the firewall off but still will not connect with the computer. Any suggestions.
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Check your security settings
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lockg300 said:
My mother in law just purchased this phone mainly to use as a mobile hot spot but windows keeps saying it is unable to connect. We have tried it with other devices(worked fine) and with the firewall off but still will not connect with the computer. Any suggestions.
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Get a Mac Jkjk windows always is screwy with me for wifi
Windows 7 64 bit, working fine here.
What security settings should I check? The computer works fine when using 2 other phones for hot spots.
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What security settings should I check? The computer works fine when using 2 other phones for hot spots.
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well the security settings on the computer should be the same as the phone or vice verse, wpa on phone should be wpa on computer, etc. and password or security code should match
also, did you run diagnostics, to test connections or repair
The diagnostic said unable to determine or fix error. It only won't connect for that phone, all others we have tried work fine. Already replaced it once due to this issue.
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The diagnostic said unable to determine or fix error. It only won't connect for that phone, all others we have tried work fine. Already replaced it once due to this issue.
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well, i don't know what to tell ya, just don't know at this point.
lockg300 said:
What security settings should I check? The computer works fine when using 2 other phones for hot spots.
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It's your security settings and not phone. Set it to Wep 128 and should work for you.
If your computer connects to other phones' hotspots with the same security settings, then there might be a problem with this phone. You can try clearing the hotspot app's data to reset any settings you may have changed, but if that still doesn't work, I suggest getting a replacement phone. Sounds like a hardware problem to me.
Fixed the problem by getting rid of HTC phone!
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Fixed the problem by getting rid of HTC phone!
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AMAZING
Da fuq
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Has anyone tried tethering with the unlimited data plan just released Sept 5?
In this plan your not allowed to tether but maybe with hasoons hack?
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Has anyone tried tethering with the unlimited data plan just released Sept 5?
In this plan your not allowed to tether but maybe with hasoons hack?
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It should be the same as with the previous data plan. Im sure the workarounds still work. Try this app, I've been using it without issues: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5nb29nbGVjb2RlLmFuZHJvaWQud2lmaS50ZXRoZXIiXQ..
I'm about to try the wifi tether app, though I would make note to use https sites and avoid plain http as much as possible.
Not working for me my device doesn't show up
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Wifi tether app is working perfect for me, using it atm, about to do a speed test.
ce3jay said:
It should be the same as with the previous data plan. Im sure the workarounds still work. Try this app, I've been using it without issues: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5nb29nbGVjb2RlLmFuZHJvaWQud2lmaS50ZXRoZXIiXQ..
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From what I remembered the last time I used WiFi tether apps I couldn't access secured sites. But this was about a year ago.
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I'm about to try the wifi tether app, though I would make note to use https sites and avoid plain http as much as possible.
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this would defeat my doubt about https (secure sites) but why do you say avoid plain http? T-mobile being able to detect if you are tethering where secure sites would be protected and no one can tell what you are doing?
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Not working for me my device doesn't show up
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Now I'm confused, works or no works lol. Remember this is with the new unlimited data plan and using whatever hacks (most likely hasoons) available.
On another note have you guys tried the old original WiFi tether app from google.code something. I Haven't been up to date.
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From what I remembered the last time I used WiFi tether apps I couldn't access secured sites. But this was about a year ago.
this would defeat my doubt about https (secure sites) but why do you say avoid plain http? T-mobile being able to detect if you are tethering where secure sites would be protected and no one can tell what you are doing?
Now I'm confused, works or no works lol. Remember this is with the new unlimited data plan and using whatever hacks (most likely hasoons) available.
On another note have you guys tried the old original WiFi tether app from google.code something. I Haven't been up to date.
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Okay to answer all your questions.
1. It can access all sites.
2. Yes tmo apparently detect unpaid tethering via the pc useragent on http sites but since they pry into https as it is a secure protocol, they can't detect those but I just used all the various protocols without any issues.
3. Yes it works via the wifi tether app from the play store, it does work via the default tether app on some devices but the newer devices they set it to check your data plan for hotspot, but the wifi tether app gets around that and works fine and no I didn't modify anything, I'm on the stock apn, etc.
Yes I do have the true unlimited plan as well.
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Okay to answer all your questions.
1. It can access all sites.
2. Yes tmo apparently detect unpaid tethering via the pc useragent on http sites but since they pry into https as it is a secure protocol, they can't detect those but I just used all the various protocols without any issues.
3. Yes it works via the wifi tether app from the play store, it does work via the default tether app on some devices but the newer devices they set it to check your data plan for hotspot, but the wifi tether app gets around that and works fine and no I didn't modify anything, I'm on the stock apn, etc.
Yes I do have the true unlimited plan as well.
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Thank you very much dk! Imma call and make the switch right now !
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fcpelayo said:
Thank you very much dk! Imma call and make the switch right now !
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NP buddy.
So I called and like always we seem to know more than the reps. Somehow that always seems to amaze me :screwy:
Anyways they said since I'm throttled it won't take effect until my new month starts. Which is the 8 so I can wait. But imma try again tomorrow with another rep
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So I called and like always we seem to know more than the reps. Somehow that always seems to amaze me :screwy:
Anyways they said since I'm throttled it won't take effect until my new month starts. Which is the 8 so I can wait. But imma try again tomorrow with another rep
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Ignore the throttled comment, buddy of mine was but still got it and his throttled lifted, mine said 4.2gb used of 5gb for a bit then i kicked in properly and I was suddenly completely unlimited, no highspeed cap.
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I throttled to and I changed my plan got 4g in minutes
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Tethering works . Just do hassoobs trick.
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Please don't do any crazy downloading or torrents lol Going to have tmobile Hound all of us if they catch on.
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Goten310 said:
Please don't do any crazy downloading or torrents lol Going to have tmobile Hound all of us if they catch on.
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Actually everyone is doing crazy downloading, the thing about the wifi tether third party app is that it shows your device as being the user of the data and not it being tethered the way the on board hot spot option would, that's why I opt for the third party app than just a fix, that way they can't block your tethering since it's your device showing up on the network and not a pc, imo.
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Actually everyone is doing crazy downloading, the thing about the wifi tether third party app is that it shows your device as being the user of the data and not it being tethered the way the on board hot spot option would, that's why I opt for the third party app than just a fix, that way they can't block your tethering since it's your device showing up on the network and not a pc, imo.
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What app u using ?
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The one that hasoon has posted on his how to fix tmobile tethering thread.
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So today i set up the fix for tethering that hasoons posted but i did not use it. just set it up only. then right now that I am home from work I am tethering with to my laptop but using the mobile hotspot that comes with the phone. I have the nrg rom stock. I thought that if I used that stock tethering app it wouldnt work? this is weird...
I updated my evo lte to jellybean and now i cant connect to my wifi, but im able to detect other wifi networks
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richardb2837 said:
I updated my evo lte to jellybean and now i cant connect to my wifi, but im able to detect other wifi networks
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unplug the cable modem and wireless router. plug in the cable modem first and then wait 2 minutes before you plug in the wireless router. while the wifi router is booting up reboot your phone.
if this help you please feel free to hit the thanks button.
tekno4ever said:
unplug the cable modem and wireless router. plug in the cable modem first and then wait 2 minutes before you plug in the wireless router. while the wifi router is booting up reboot your phone.
if this help you please feel free to hit the thanks button.
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some routers wont release the certificate so you have to go into router settings to release the dns lease for your phone
richardb2837 said:
I updated my evo lte to jellybean and now i cant connect to my wifi, but im able to detect other wifi networks
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This looks to have been solved in the Sprint forums.
DLNA seems to get toggled on by default on some phones.
Go to settings->wifi->menu, advanced, uncheck DLNA
You can either toggle wifi or reboot at that point.
I did try. But it didnt work, i gave u a thanks anyways for helping
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I tried, but it didnt work, its so annoying i depend on wifi alot, i dont get how its able to detect other wofi networks on the houses around me but not my wifi network
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Turn off that sprint connection optimized crap..bet it helps it issue, sgs3 on sprint of my wife's had same issue
irishgreen said:
Turn off that sprint connection optimized crap..bet it helps it issue, sgs3 on sprint of my wife's had same issue
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yes, this has helped several people from what I have read. and irishgreen is correct, sprint connection optimizer is crap.
son weatici
vandon1 said:
This looks to have been solved in the Sprint forums.
DLNA seems to get toggled on by default on some phones.
Go to settings->wifi->menu, advanced, uncheck DLNA
You can either toggle wifi or reboot at that point.
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This fix worked for me, I also turned the optimizer off.
Nope it didnt work for me
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I'm running ADHD 10.2 and I tried one already without success. Can someone guide me please. Thanks!
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Obie911 said:
I'm running ADHD 10.2 and I tried one already without success. Can someone guide me please. Thanks!
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Tethering works perfectly for me on ARHD 10.2 (which is what I'm guessing you meant to type). Just go to settings, hit more,mobile network shareing, then go into portable wifi hotspot settings, name your hotspot and PW, then hit the checkbox. I had no problem.
Just curious, when you did your install with AROMA, did you hit AT&T, or international?
Daman09 said:
Tethering works perfectly for me on ARHD 10.2 (which is what I'm guessing you meant to type). Just go to settings, hit more,mobile network shareing, then go into portable wifi hotspot settings, name your hotspot and PW, then hit the checkbox. I had no problem.
Just curious, when you did your install with AROMA, did you hit AT&T, or international?
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I chose AT&T. But I was just asking for a way to get the hotspot free. I haven't tried because I don't want extra changes, but if you telling me that im good then I'll try
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Obie911 said:
I'm running ADHD 10.2 and I tried one already without success. Can someone guide me please. Thanks!
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There is NO guide for ADHD 10.2 its an international rom which means there is NO AT&T stuff blocking use of tether, you must be doing something WAY wrong.
Obie911 said:
I chose AT&T. But I was just asking for a way to get the hotspot free. I haven't tried because I don't want extra changes, but if you telling me that im good then I'll try
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I've tethered multiple times in the past, and have never had AT&T bring up the issue. Just don't abuse it.
Daman09 said:
I've tethered multiple times in the past, and have never had AT&T bring up the issue. Just don't abuse it.
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Well I kinda abuse it. I use sometimes 50gb in a month. But that's because I'm at a friend's during the weekend and the only thing to use is either tether or satilite internet lol
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hyelton said:
Well I kinda abuse it. I use sometimes 50gb in a month. But that's because I'm at a friend's during the weekend and the only thing to use is either tether or satilite internet lol
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You're gonna get throttled real bad dude
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Nick281051 said:
You're gonna get throttled real bad dude
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No.... Using the "phone" apn yes, at 5GB of usage I get throttled down to .047mbps down.
Then I just switch over to the wap.cingular APN and BAM pulling 6-10mbps down on H+/3G. No throttling here..
This thread is a bit confusing to me.
Are you guys saying AT&T charges extra for tethering?
ATT charges $$$ for a seperate data plan which lets you tether Internet, which is also limited to about 5gb or 3gb, not too sure. If you use tethering on a regular phone (stock rom with bloatware- fresh from the store), they would probably charge you for tethering because of the detection apk they put in there.
The way to bypass this is to use a custom rom, Internet tethering should work on it, maybe you could reflash/ reset the phone (all the settings and whatnot) maybe try a different rom?
Also, I diddnt know you could bypass ATT throttle, could you post all the complete APN settings to do that?
Cheers,
OK, please forgive me for being slow. You only save money if you're tethering from a phone with unlimited data plan, right? If you're on a limited plan, it doesn't matter and AT&T should not charge you extra, right?
sp_1st_timer said:
OK, please forgive me for being slow. You only save money if you're tethering from a phone with unlimited data plan, right? If you're on a limited plan, it doesn't matter and AT&T should not charge you extra, right?
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If you go over the limit on a limited plan, they charge you extra $$$. I think it is $20 for 1 more GB.
If you are detected tethering on a stock ATT phone, they will probably charge you for tethering plan
If you are on unlimited data, you may lose it (plan) if you are detected tethering (stock phone),
if you go over limit 5GB for 4g LTE phone they will just throttle you.
Undetected tethering/ Custom ROM with removed att protection = only worry about going over the limit
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Leifio said:
If you go over the limit on a limited plan, they charge you extra $$$. I think it is $20 for 1 more GB.
If you are detected tethering on a stock ATT phone, they will probably charge you for tethering plan
If you are on unlimited data, you may lose it (plan) if you are detected tethering (stock phone),
if you go over limit 5GB for 4g LTE phone they will just throttle you.
Undetected tethering/ Custom ROM with removed att protection = only worry about going over the limit
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running a custom rom doesnt make you more invisable tethering with att its shows up the same as it would on stock...
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running a custom rom doesnt make you more invisable tethering with att its shows up the same as it would on stock...
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Not correct
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Ask other people it doesn't change anything. It allows you to use native tethering to use a custom Rom but that's it doesn't change anything else
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Ask other people it doesn't change anything. It allows you to use native tethering to use a custom Rom but that's it doesn't change anything else
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It allows you to tether and only shows up as regular data usage
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It allows you to tether and only shows up as regular data usage
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You can tether on the stock Rom too... It doesn't make your data issage look any different
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You can tether on the stock Rom too... It doesn't make your data issage look any different
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I agree. The only thing Att or carriers look at is the amount of data being used periodically or the mac/ip address. Carriers have the ability to tell the difference from our phone using data or tethering, especially if data patterns changes.
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Heck I use a lot of data tether and through phone anywhere between 5gb and 50
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Heck I use a lot of data tether and through phone anywhere between 5gb and 50
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Is it included? I happen to have it included.
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