Hello,
I have 3 questions if you may help:
1. how do I close an application? for example in the iphone i would just open the running apps and close it by long click - here I dont get it? for example if I listen to a radio and then i clean the application on the task manager the radio keeps playing....
2. The follow up question will be what is the best task manager on android?
3. Ram issues - I understand that 1gb ram is more than enough - however on the task managr it shows me maximum of 280 mb free on the ram - is it normal? or im doing something wrong??
Thanks!!!
The best task manager is none. Android uses ram in a totally diffrent way to IOS and windows. Android keeps most of it's free ram engaged, this way it can access and allocate ram much faster than how ios handles free ram. All you need to know is, on android, the less fee ram you have, the smoother things will be.
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Hello,
Someone know why any Task Killer show wrong free memory other than the Running Process of the phone itself?
I suspect you may be referring to the fact that the SGS2 shares it's main memory with the GPU, resulting in the total ram available to android being lower than the advertised 1Gb. Don't worry, that's normal.
If not, you'll have to provide some more details on your question.
Also, Task Killers are generally considered to be very bad news.
Google around, or read this: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them If you want more information.
Basically, they can cause all manner of pain and on a modern device like the SGS2, they're completely unnecessary.
As far as i know it's hard disk manufacturer rate there drivers similar to RAM
Actual:
1MB = 1024Bytes
1GB = 1024MB = 1024 X 1024 = 1,048,576 Bytes
Manufacturer size:
1MB = 1000Bytes
1GB = 1000MB
So
1,000,000 / 1,048,576 = 953.67MB
In the device itself under Running process it shows free and used ram
the sum of those numbers are 724MB(Used: 230MB Free: 494MB)
Android System info shows:
Max: 838MB Free: 507MB
Quick System info pro:
Total: 839MB Free: 508MB Idle: 254MB
Smart System info:
Total: 838MB Free:432MB
All above checked one after the other
There is any common sense?
About the task killers can I use Memory Booster instead? or it's unnecessary?
Hmm.. this!
Android phones do not need task killers, android is based on linux and linux manages memory very well in comparison to say Windows, if it leaves something open it is doing so because it is better for it to be left open, if android then needs more memory it will close applications on its own. If you start to use any task killers you will close apps when they don't need to be closed and if you or android have to re-open them it will use more cpu power and therefore more battery.
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Hey, guys!
Im bit "noob" whit android devices becouse this is my first android phone. I allways have been use nokia's phones ( cuz im from Finland ) but the latest nokia phones have been bit disappointment for me. So I bought DEFY. So about task killers. I have used many of those and I have been thinking why my device have been so slow and laggy.. so I googled what is the best task killer and I found that android actually don't need task killer/manager. And then I uninstall my task killer (TasKiller) and reboot my phone and now its not laggy or slow at all!
So I would say don't use any of task killers or managers.
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This is not answering my question , i read what undave posted.
I ask about memory booster and about RAM Issue
With the exception of some which mess with swappyness, most memory boosters generally work exactly the same way as a task killer.
Seriously, you have a smartphone with 1Gb of ram, you really don't need to do anything to optimise memory usage. Android really is very good at this all by itself.
Regarding the available ram: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980958
Why if writes 1 GB of RAM on my phone writes 835 MB maximum in task manager?
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Why if writes 1 GB of RAM on my phone writes 835 MB maximum in task manager?
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Hey.
Thats coz' android system uses piece of RAM and task manager shows you only aviable memory.
Sorry, for my bad english
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Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
If you're comfortable with it, going to a custom ROM will almost always improve memory usage and system speed. I recommend leedroid.
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Task manager shows 806 mb of used memory and only 211 mb free. Have a brand new flyer and installed a few apps. Any idea how to free up more internal memory?
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That is a very reasonable usage of RAM memory, its not application storage.
Linux and Android attempt to maximize memory usage while keeping a certain amount free for program loading and switching. It's normal for Android to keep RAM about 75% full and intentional. That way when one of your app bits needs to run, its already in fast memory and does not need to be loaded. So you can kill apps all you want and android will just happily keep reloading them in the background and refilling that memory. That's why task killers generally ware not needed and can often slow things down by unnecessarily killing tasks that the OS will just start up again.
I have a " samsung galaxy player 4 ". I was wounder how much memory ( RAM ) it has ?
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
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I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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I would recommend a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher on Android market very light weight, also a app like memory booster which frees RAM. Their are no such mods to change the file system usage as changing the amount of RAM the system needs could result in a unstable device. I have a Galaxy wifi 5.0 with 512mb RAM and the 200mb left is enough for me without lag etc. hope this helps
I recommend using Advanced Task Killer. It has a very easy interface, and frees up ram quickly.
What does it say for ram on the player.... I have seen 377... and 345.
I have 345 and Im pretty pissed about it.
I have 342mb of RAM available. But I heard that around 100+ mb are dedicated to the gpu on the galaxy s phone, and the galaxy player has the same hardware so should be the same. So I think it still has 512mb of ram, but just 342 is usable by Android.
Have a look at the output of dmesg (e.g. run the following in a terminal and copy the resultant file to your PC to view: dmesg > dmesg_output.txt) and it tells you how much memory you have and how much has been set aside. Note you will probably want to reboot before you do this as otherwise the interesting messages have scrolled out of the kernel message buffer.
I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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Gingerbread/Samsung has it's own task manager which in turn has it's own widget which does this. No need to install an app for this
I to use fast reboot, find it much more effective than what the player comes with. I also use ram manager pro witch is a very good tool to set different ram profiles, I like "balance (more free memory)" the best. I first select my profile, then I run fast reboot, very effective! The more you run fast reboot, the more memory it frees up, witch is great for big games like asphalt 6. Also, I use zeam launcher, very lightweight, perhaps the lightest, but still a great improvement over touchwiz. Another thing, NO LIVE WALLPAPERS is an absolute necessary! These things eat WAY more ram than they say on taskmanager. THEY CAN EAT 50+ MB OF RAM!! Also, services like widgetlockscreen and such will eat your ram. If you want to play a heavy game, go to running services and kill as many as you can, you can also clear cached apps by hitting the menu button in running services. Hope these tips help you to make the most of our small supply of ram!
Hmm, after more testing, it would appear that wifi burns around 25mb of ram when on! So, if your really short on ram, just turn on airplane mode to kill all antennas. I just played modern combat 3 with 25mb free ram throughout the whole level I had 190mb free originally, that game sure eats the stuff :s The CPU rides at 1000mhz through the whole game, lol, could always use some more of that stuff! That's what oc is for
I'm running dagr8s alpha 2 ics rom. And I know that it has lower ram than the gb roms. But lately I have been running Tasker (amazing app btw) numbers and it keeps notifying me that I have low ram and it might not work properly. I go to applications in settings and check my ram and it says I only have 98mb free. I end all tasks and clear ram and then still I have like 120-130 free. I'm afraid that this is a too low amount. And wanted your opinions on what I should do. Is this enough should I just ignore the warnings will Tasker still run fine? How can I get more ram? Are any of you also experiencing low ram?
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Taller uses ram also. I run trebuchet launcher on alpha 2 and have no real issues. If it gets slow you can hold home and clear things out. Running a lot of widgets still affect ram also.
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If you go to developer options in settings at the bottom and select the background processes and set it to 3 processes at most that helps alot...also if u change ur dalvik heap to 64 that also helps a ton...DO NOT and I repeat do not set it below 64 as u will soft brick your phone
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You must understand how Android uses memory, it loads your frequentlyused programs into ram so when you go to use them, they open much faster than if they would if they had to open "fresh" each time.the lmk (low memory killer) should take care of everything if you ate currently using a process that uses a lot of memory it will kill off apps as it needs to.
Put simply: FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM.
Have a marine navigation program "Navionics USA EAST" that wouldn't open in ICS(leak and Saurom) unless I cleared RAM. No issue onstock GB, and runs fine on sgh-i777 ICS? Tried debloating leak, but didn't help much. Will try limiting running programs when back on ICS.
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Free Ram is wasted ram. Never thought about it like that. I understand but i would still like some free ram just so its available for other apps i open. I did use the task manager to kill running apps and clear ram and it didnt free up that much ram that is why i was worried.
Ill try limiting background proccess to .
Also how do i set dalvik heap to 64? And what exactly does this accomplish?
Thanks for the replies guys.
Yes set it to 3 processes at most. Task manaher killers r just crap dnt use them
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Welcome to ICS. This is exactly why I DONT like ICS - the memory footprint is huge just for ICS alone.
Free ram is not entirely wasted ram.
Let me explain.
So, my phone RAM is completely (or nearly) filled and I open a new app. There is now a long delay as Android goes to work closing app(s) down and doing garbage collection to free up memory for the new app I just tried to open but it only frees up enough for the one app I just opened.
And now, every app I go to open is going to have this long delay.
What you really want is about 80% ram usage - enough that there is free ram to open new apps without Android having to scurry around to free up a bunch of memory.
I dont know if there is a way to force a certain amount of ram to be free but imo, thats what youd really want.
I only have 6 user apps on my phone and Im running stock GB so even if I opened everything at once, there would be plenty of ram to have them open all at once (Go Launcher, Blue Skies (paid), Battery Power Widget, System Tuner Pro, BeyondPod, & Audible).
It's called "minfree memory," what you want is an app that will allow you to modify those values. Back when I had a Captivate, I used an app called AutoKiller for that purpose. I haven't needed it on the Note though. You can find it in the Android market.
Is it possible for apps to crash when the phone doesnt have enough free memory (RAM)?
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
How much RAM do you guys have available when running GB. The phone only sees 767Mb of RAM out of the 1Gb is that normal?
yea i think thats normal because the phone system uses some of that ram to make the phone work. Like if you ever had a sd card or an ipod that was say an 8gb ipod you actually only have like 7.66gb free.
But yeah I would like more ram availabe so the phone can load apps quickly and wont have to waste time closing stuff. I dont think free ram is wasted ram
As said before, Android uses ram differently since it based upon Linux. If the entire ROM runs around 600-800mB and most of it gets loaded into RAM, this will leave you with 400-200mB free RAM but the entire OS is already loaded and ready to go! Once you load a RAM intensive application, Android/Linux kernel will free space for that application.
I believe GPU consumes an excess of RAM to handle this beast's resolution/size.
I have to go back to GB. Delay in apps opening is getting old compared to i777 daily driver.
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Thanks for the info, guys.
If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
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If I root my S3 is it possible to make more ram available to me?
With all apps closed I have 650/780 being used so that only leaves me with 130mb of ram.
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Jesus. There's a huge panic now because the variant has 2 gigs of ram...
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
You actually have more free, but the android has a lot of it saved for caching, etc. For example, Facebook takes 40 mb, but when I open it only like 5 or 10 mb of the ram shown as "available" is taken away because parts of it are actually open already.
But yes, if you root it, and a developer adjusts the Minfree to a large amount you will have more free but your phone will probably be slower.
Folks need to keep in mind, that keeping RAM free as you would with a Windows based OS, is NOT ideal in Android. Android uses RAM completely differently and it is perfectly okay for your phone to make use of RAM, even for apps you are not currently using.
There's a fair amount of documentation out there about this - do some Google-fu to deep dive further.
Actually I ask because when I was trying to send a picture in whatsapp it kept sayin "try again" but when I closed all tasks in multitask the picture did send. So I'm guessing it is a ram problem.
Also take it easy on Mr. This is my first android phone, I've been using iphone since the 3g and don't know nothing about android..... yet
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You don't really want to much free ram. If there is to much free ram it means apps are not going in to cache witch will mean really slow app loading times. 200-300mb free is ample for new apps to run, if the OS needs more then its auto memory management will come in to play to free up more if needed, android is a very smart peace of kit
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if anyone were to choose pre-caching order for faster load times ( usually just by seconds than non-pre-cached) to no random force closes because there is more free memory, they would chose more free memory.
but since the experts have already said android memory doesn't work the same way like windows does, then the best would be a balance between cache and free memory. right? right. that's where official updates and dev fixes come in.