Whenever I'm finally able to get my hands on a N10, the first thing I'm going to do is root it and put on a custom ROM that gets rid of that ridiculous Phablet UI. For those of you who have been flashing ROMS on this device, what other ROMS besides Paranoid Android have successfully restored the original Tablet UI? It'd be handy to have a list here for others who are wondering the same thing. It's kind of hard to tell on some of them, especially if they are nightly-based ROMs, which usually don't include a changelog or list of features, and for some reason screenshots in the OP are always lacking.
Also, of the ones with the ability to switch the UI, which ones seem to be the most stable in tablet UI mode?
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This ROM doesn't fully bring back the original UI, but does allow the user to move buttons to the left and right of the bar for easy reach. As you can see in the image below, certain buttons can be moved to whichever side of the screen you like. Mix and match them, or even move them all to the opposite side depending whether you're a lefty or a righty!
Aokp is my favourite ROM of all and had the option to enable tablet ui on their previous 4.1.2. builds. I expect them to implement the option on 4.2.1. soon, and I of course expect them to create builds for the nexus 10 too.
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I don't see many ROMs supporting the soon-to-be-deprecated old tablet UI... and quite frankly, after using it a bit, the new UI is not bad at all...
I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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Don't get me wrong... I understand that different people have different opinions and I'm not trying to force you to change your opinion... I merely stated that even though the old tablet UI still works with Android 4.2, it is no longer officially supported by Google and will likely be deprecated in a future release... so the number of ROMs supporting the old tablet UI will be considerably small... I just said give it a chance... that said, I leave it to you to make up your own mind!
AOKP is available for the Nexus 10, but it does not have the old tablet UI yet...
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I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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There is an unofficial port done for the N10 right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013361
Been running it for a few hours, and a few items are missing but nothing too major. They are working on getting those missing features back. I'm hoping the N10 because an officially supported device for the team.
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There is an unofficial port done for the N10 right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013361
Been running it for a few hours, and a few items are missing but nothing too major. They are working on getting those missing features back. I'm hoping the N10 because an officially supported device for the team.
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Just to clarify, it's not a port... it's an unofficial build until it gets officially integrated...
Just my opinion , but I suggest people get used to the new UI , it is just like anything else, companies evolve , and not everyone likes it ..
Car companies change paint colors, dash packages, and options.
PC companies change cases, keyboards monitors and mice.
At some point you are just going to have to grow up and move on.
If a dev wants to build a ROM because he/she likes the old UI then that is awesome, but if it was me, the first person that begged for it, would make me NOT want to do it .
You could always learn to do it yourself ...
(and yes I do know how to do it myself, because I learned, not that I even want the old UI anymore)
personally i love the new ui
I liked Tablet UI mainly because I could see what time it was and access notifications from within fullscreen apps. But now that stuff is put on the top bar, which gets hidden on fullscreen apps.
Updated the OP to add MoDoCo ROM to the list. This ROM doesn't bring back the full UI, but gives the user control over specific softkey placement on the navigation bar, which is something Google should have done in the first place when they decided to change stuff up. The biggest complaint people have with the new UI is that the buttons you use the most are in the center of the screen away from the thumbs. Sucks for people like me who have short thumbs. The MoDoCo solution is perfectly acceptable for me and may even be preferred by left handed users. :good:
My ROM now has a mod to move the navi button to the left... still a mod zip until I learn to code it to be a configurable option!
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My ROM now has a mod to move the navi button to the left... still a mod zip until I learn to code it to be a configurable option!
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Didn't you say that your Roms will never ever have it?
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Didn't you say that your Roms will never ever have it?
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I meant the old tablet UI... I simply have a mod to move the navi buttons... status bar is still on the top... it's still the so called "phablet" UI...
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This is an open call for devs who would like a challenge, and who would like to improve ths usability of our Atrix phones. I'm not a programmer at all, but I have an idea for a webtop replacement app, one that has the potential to be much faster and potentially more universal.
So, we all know that moto's webtop software kinda blows chunks. Its slow and buggy and absolutely not worth buying the lapdock for.
From what I understand, it's a customized, instant-on build of linux. This strikes me as a little stupid, because android already is linux (of sorts), and the limitations of the lapdock sound easier to overcome without a second OS. I don't know much about programming, but I imagine that this can't be the best way to do this.
After seeing an ASUS Transformer in action, I got to thinking. The multiple customized desktops and widgets from android translate pretty well to the bigger screen, and using them with a mouse and keyboard isn't half bad.
Rather than a whole second OS, I would love to see a new launcher, a second set of homescreens that appear when you plug the phone into the lapdock. I'm visualizing something like this:
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One, three or five fully customizable homescreens for widgets and a customizable dock with some apps in it. It doesn't have to look exactly like this, this is just a mock-up. The standard notification curtain is probably good enough as a start, though somebody ambitious could probably do better.
rather than booting up, we could close the phone homescreen and open the laptop homescreen. There might be a bit of a wait when switching while your screen redraws, but after that, it should be very snappy. I don't know how easy it would be to do, but if you can tell apps about the bigger screen size/resolution, you could probably convince them to open in their tablet versions, furthering the bigg(er)-screen experience. Combine that with a tabbed browser (anything from the market) and you've got a solid netbook replacement. play games, or read your gmail on a real screen, without needing a second device. you know, what this lapdock was supposed to be!
I'm guessing this would need to be a root app because of the pixel density and screen size changes, but i have no idea. And i don't know if it'd be easier to do as a separate launcher or as one launcher that does double duty with both phone and laptop homescreens. The only other challenge that I can think of is getting the mouse and keyboard to play nice.
For controls, in adition to using the mouse as fake touch, I was thinking of using the left and right arrow keys to switch screens, and up and down to open the app drawer and notification curtain. Making this user customizable would be ideal.
This has the potential to be totally compatible with the Photon when it comes out, and it probably wouldn't be too much harder to use this to give webtop functionality to any ROM or even any phone with HDMI && usb. Does anyone know if this would work with MHL (ala Sensation and Galaxy S2)?
I really don't know where to start, and there's no way I can do this alone (or even at all, really) so if you have advice or would like to help make this happen, sound off!
so basically you want it to output a upscaled/honeycombed look when HDMI out is present/webtop enviro selected.
it's a nice notion, but i'm doubtful that this will get done. most likely it would involve opening up a second instance of Android from the boot address of the current linux installation. not really sure if that's possible.
This seems a bit steep of a feat, but definitely possible. Devs that are attached to webtop would not have to make sure that it is compatible when making new roms, because they would only need to add the separate launcher.
but again, this could be too steep. Instead, if the into mode is feeling a bit sluggish to you, I might suggest that someone figure out a better windowing manager than motorola's clunky version.
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Before we get into anything... Explain how a little change to webtop is more important then an unlocked bootloader?
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I'm not sure that a change in window manager would help any. Startup time seems pretty similar to what I see when starting the X Windowing System on any box with just a gig of ram. Maybe a lighter weight window manager, such as fluxbox, would help but I'm betting the issue is the same as it is on any other platform....the X window server itself is an inefficient memory hog.
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Before we get into anything... Explain how a little change to webtop is more important then an unlocked bootloader?
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This is a project that will outlive the atrix. Future phones with unlocked bootloader will have this webtop already complete, or less optimistically, available for porting.
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I'm not sure that a change in window manager would help any. Startup time seems pretty similar to what I see when starting the X Windowing System on any box with just a gig of ram. Maybe a lighter weight window manager, such as fluxbox, would help but I'm betting the issue is the same as it is on any other platform....the X window server itself is an inefficient memory hog.
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then I guess somone out to port wayland to android....
good luck with that
first things first
does anyone know of an api public or private to write to the hdmi serial port???
Great idea, and interesting too - however, should be in [Themes and APPS]
Nal, I do not believe we want the Atrix devs working on other phones, basically. Defeats the purpose of modding our atrixs
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moved to proper forum.
almost seems like it would be better to wait for the bootloader to be cracked, then dualboot with ubuntu (or some sort of arm-adapted desktop OS) and startup a gui. Now that's what im waiting for. Anything else just isnt native, and slows up the phone.
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almost seems like it would be better to wait for the bootloader to be cracked, then dualboot with ubuntu (or some sort of arm-adapted desktop OS) and startup a gui. Now that's what im waiting for. Anything else just isnt native, and slows up the phone.
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Well no, that's the point, the reason its so bad is because its running two OS's. Booting up ubuntu is totally not necessary, we already have android, which for most purposes, is enough.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure where it went
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Before we get into anything... Explain how a little change to webtop is more important then an unlocked bootloader?
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This is definitely a different area of development. Every single developer that is interested in the Atrix probably isn't working on the bootloader. I certainly wouldn't want to steal away bootloader devs, as customs ROMs are really important for unleashing this phone. That said, webdock is definitely another weakness of this phone, it isn't as amazing as it could be. I'm sure someone wants to help improve this aspect of the UX.
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Well no, that's the point, the reason its so bad is because its running two OS's. Booting up ubuntu is totally not necessary, we already have android, which for most purposes, is enough.
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It is not running two OS's. It is running a single Linux kernel (which is the O/S) plus a scaled down destop environment built from some of the Ubuntu packages (but not Ubuntu in any way, shape, or form) and the android gui environment.
Looking at some process stats, it appears that webtop runs at about half the priority of the Dalvik stuff. Maybe the answer to your perceived problem is just changing that.
There are already several projects in place to open up the webtop environment into a much more vanilla linux experience, without all the motorola lockdown. Check the dev forums.
I have no clue why or who ever in Samsung development messed this up, but when you stream flash videos in full screen the notification does not auto hide. To me this is completely unacceptable as it ruins the possibility of "full screen" and it can actually damage the oled in these phones.
I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone. The only from currently that I know of that fixes it is Cyanogen.. but I do want a stable ICS and oh boy can't we all dream of a perfect aosp from... dreams of super fast clean friendly user experience...
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They are still beta builds so stop moaning until we get official roms.
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I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone.
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And you feel that you can issue demands to the devs because...?? Why are you so special?
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
It's not your suggestion, it's your attitude.
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Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
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AS said above, it looks like your are running ICS which is in beta and has not been officially released, you are complaining about an unfinished, unofficially released BETA rom.
You may need some time of reflection and a lot of reading to understand what you are doing......
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms?
You answer your question yourself why build a rom based on a half assed buggy beta release .
Put in a very simple way . Why waste time on a buggy beta build that may be very different come release day .
When ICS is released and if a dev thinks its worth fixing your problem i am sure they will .
jje
OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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Then give us more information. Saying that streaming videos don't go full screen is no where near enough. What ROM, website, browser etc are you using because the last time I tried this (Not long after the S2 was released) it worked just fine. I tried a 720p video from megaupload and it went full screen just fine. Same with youtube/youtube app. Give more information, not attitude. Also, i'd wager than there is zero chance of your display burning in a 3G icon. Perhaps the full notification bar if you use MIUI/a white or light theme but I highly doubt the majority of people will experience any burn in, never mind such a small specific burn in.
Fair enough.. more info. I usually run completely stock and decided to play around with ics. A main site I stream with is twitch.TV (I am a big starcraft2 player and use the pro streams to get better) while I'm at work I watch for hours sometimes 7 hours straight. This WILL cause burn in.
When the problem occurs:
Watching ANY true flash video online(not YouTube app) while in full screen mode in any browser or Rom besides cyanogen.
If you don't believe me test it yourself. Go to twitch.TV pick a stream let the video load and click the full screen button. If you have a rom that the notification bar disappears let me know and you won't hear.me "moan" anymore.
Or maybe one of you super nice Brits can call UK Samsung and get an official fix. The number is 08702420303.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197496
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Download the diff, check for relevant changes (there's not many for fullscreen) and mod your own browser. Before you ask, I'm not going to hold your hand on this one, and am not willing to do it for you either (I don't use an ICS ROM).
Not asking for any hand holding or hand outs for that matter.. one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics. Even states in that post "should be comparable with 2.3.x roms.
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Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics.
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Sure it will, you just have to be willing to put in some work. Namely, as I already said, downloading the diff, checking for relevant changes (I think there's only two changes relating to full screen) and getting them into your Browser.apk. You're probably going to need to do some reading.
Judging by this part of your post:
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one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
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I'm going to make a guess you won't bother with this.
I have been looking through the forum trying out a few At&t Galaxy Note ROMs but i haven't tried an AOSP or CM9 ROM and I was wondering if anyone could show me the best one for the At&t Galaxy Note(battery life, customization, stability, everything working, MUST have a GREAT equalizer, and being lag free.):fingers-crossed:
really the bet one is what works for you - each of us have different standards and things we look for in a ROM - best bet is to try it yourself - takes less than 5 minutes to try out a ROM - start in the development thread
I've used Flapjaxx, Perfection and am now currently running AOCP - all worked great for me - some pluses and minuses on each one
but i could see using any of these as my daily driver
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I have been looking through the forum trying out a few At&t Galaxy Note ROMs but i haven't tried an AOSP or CM9 ROM and I was wondering if anyone could show me the best one for the At&t Galaxy Note(battery life, customization, stability, everything working, MUST have a GREAT equalizer, and being lag free.):fingers-crossed:
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I can only say what i recommend as my daily driver is fj's stock by att carrier with h0tw1r3's oc kernel r2.. It is awesome fast. I tried aosp, cm9, hybrid, paranoid, but after all that i missed having spen. I don't use the pen much but when i do its at pretty crucial times. Im going to flash cm9 official right now to try it out but most likely won't keep it. So i advise try few roms for yourself.
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I have tried several CM9, AOSP, AOKP and Stock based ROMS. All of them have their merits and I give props to all the Devs who worked hard to make them.
But after trying at least one of each, my personal fav is JamieD's Paranoid Android ROM.
Great on battery, very very stable hybrid tablet interface.
Each ROM provides a different experience for everybody that uses it. The only way to find a "best ROM" is to try them all for yourself and see what is best for you. Anything that anybody tells you otherwise is wrong, as it is a matter of opinion.
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Each ROM provides a different experience for everybody that uses it. The only way to find a "best ROM" is to try them all for yourself and see what is best for you. Anything that anybody tells you otherwise is wrong, as it is a matter of opinion.
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but i kid
Solid words, i've personally poked around on FJ's line of stock roms, team perfection's objection, seraphim-mesosphere-remix, and official cm9, until i switched to cm9, i had always been switching back to fj's roms because of s-pen gestures, but i switched to the official cm9 nightlies and have been making due, all it takes is some back-up apps (if you have data to back up, things like titanium backup and mybackup or your preference [merely said those, because i use them]) and mess around, play with your phone, always good to have a full charge before you flash but not imperitive, and always remember when you switch between roms, make sure you wipe with double ply :3
Personally loving fjs latest build but i really liked the hotwires build and cm9 have the nfc tagging for themes... I didn't get to test it out but that stuff is pretty cool. Just my opinion.
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Cm9. Like getting out of a ford fiesta and into a 7 series BMW.
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I've been running Dagr8s King Kang and I will sing praises about that rom. I can't stand any stock based Rom, although I do wish I could use all the nice spen apps.
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Official CM9 nightly has been the most stable for me so far, and it's very fast. The only thing I can complain about is home screen swiping lags a bit, and when long-pressing a home screen icon to move or delete it, if you have a lot of icons on the screen, this lags a LOT. Does not happen with different launchers. So far every launcher I have tried has something I don't like about it. The silkiest smoothest launcher I've used is sslauncher in The Collective's CP1 ROM. That whole ROM is very buttery smooth and I love its different style. I was very tempted to go back to that ROM from CM9, but so far CM9 has proven more reliable for me. This could just be ME though, as I've only been playing around with this for a couple days. A week ago, I was totally clueless about how to root a phone, how to use Odin/download mode/recovery, or even what any of that meant!
I think when we see these guys stress WIPE WIPE WIPE, it really does matter. I've taken the habit of wiping anything and everything I can, multiple times, before trying a new ROM. This has given me best results so far. I just keep my important stuff backed up on my computer, and I reinstall my apps manually. Not really a big deal, since I often find when reinstalling them, there are a bunch I had installed that I don't really want anymore anyway.
So, what is the BEST?
- If you want the stock ICS experience -> you can find 100% stock ROMs floating around for various carriers.
- If you want the stock experience but don't want the bloat -> XDA has delivered on this front too, there are a few variations of stock ICS with bloat removed, and a few simple really helpful things installed but no heavy customization.
- If you want the highest performance and customization -> The Collective - AoCP - CP1, CM9, Paranoid Android
Just compare the download size of the stock ROMs to the download size of the faster ones and you'll see!
I'm still a noob at this, so everything I said could be totally wack.
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There is no best ROM for a individual users, its down to personal needs. I suggest you take your time and read the threads and make your own decision. This sort of thread never goes well, so i close it.
I updated to jelly bean and my s-pen is app that were with ics are no longer there.
How can I get them to run on Jelly Bean if possible.
If you went from touchwiz to cm10 those won't work, they require touchwiz to operate. If you want the gestures go to paranoid android ROM, the gestures are working great.
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If you went from touchwiz to cm10 those won't work, they require touchwiz to operate. If you want the gestures go to paranoid android ROM, the gestures are working great.
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the real security hole would be that of out of date roms with the "logging of pattern unlock" security hole.
and i believe the 2 roms you suck up to are both out of date...
might want to go blabbing that everywhere make sure those users know since you seem to be ontop of all these issues........
to the OP
dont listen to users, use what you would like, this security hole they speak of with gestures is not proven and is said by someone who publicly said he doesnt know java well so you honestly cant take his word on it when there isnt proof of it what so ever?
as far as apps to replace those of tw, there are plenty, my rom includes gnote *the dev of the original s-pen gestures made this app*, there is also apps in the market like skitch and others.
They can take pictures of my pocket lint all they want
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JamieD81 said:
the real security hole would be that of out of date roms with the "logging of pattern unlock" security hole.
and i believe the 2 roms you suck up to are both out of date...
might want to go blabbing that everywhere make sure those users know since you seem to be ontop of all these issues........
to the OP
dont listen to users, use what you would like, this security hole they speak of with gestures is not proven and is said by someone who publicly said he doesnt know java well so you honestly cant take his word on it when there isnt proof of it what so ever?
as far as apps to replace those of tw, there are plenty, my rom includes gnote *the dev of the original s-pen gestures made this app*, there is also apps in the market like skitch and others.
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Also, what is there to gain by using the "possible" exploit opened up by the S-pen gestures?
Look at the numbers (which I don't have): Over the total amount of Android OS phones, only a small number of them are SGH-i717s, of those SGH-i717s, only a small number are running a custom ROM, and only a small number of those running a custom ROM are running JamieD81's PA. Any hacker choosing to use this alleged vulnerability would have to spend an extraordinary amount of time looking for affected devices, then even more time looking for anything interesting. (if not looking, placing an app in the Play store and hoping that an i717 running Jamie's PA downloads it, before it gets reported as malware and booted out by Google, and then waiting for something good to send back. How would you market such an app anyway? It would make more sense to create an app which would enable the S-Pen gestures in all custom ROMs which would then contain the malware, than to contain the malware in an app which might not appeal to the majority of vulnerable phones.)
As there are more vulnerabilities in Android, and it's software which cover a far larger range of devices (if not all), which still need to be addressed, it is more profitable for hackers to go after those.
JamieD81 said:
the real security hole would be that of out of date roms with the "logging of pattern unlock" security hole.
and i believe the 2 roms you suck up to are both out of date...
might want to go blabbing that everywhere make sure those users know since you seem to be ontop of all these issues........
to the OP
dont listen to users, use what you would like, this security hole they speak of with gestures is not proven and is said by someone who publicly said he doesnt know java well so you honestly cant take his word on it when there isnt proof of it what so ever?
as far as apps to replace those of tw, there are plenty, my rom includes gnote *the dev of the original s-pen gestures made this app*, there is also apps in the market like skitch and others.
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Suck up to? I try them all. Use to use yours till all the crap you had to go through.
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Or just simply go back to the stock ROM.
I had been using Jamie's PA rom for last 4 months. But, he is going to Note 2.
So, I went back to stock ROM. I am now looking for a TW-based ROM, but nothing so far.
Right, can you lot help me please.
I have a G2. It's awesome. I've rooted and flashed every android phone ive had. But is there any real reason to jump from stock LG to 4.4 in a rush?
I'd be loosing my quickwindow functionality, the knock on feature (Which i love and know has been implemented in other kernels), my awesome LG lockscreen...and the time i've spent customising.
I'd be gaining, probably a bit of speed, a bit of battery and HDR+ pics (sounds good to me) and possibly the new google now feature (if the screen is on).
The benifits sound good, but speed isnt an issue on the G2, battery isn't...so is it worth jumping from LG stock to an AOSP or similar?
Have I missed anything?
Thanks.
stelucas1984 said:
Right, can you lot help me please.
I have a G2. It's awesome. I've rooted and flashed every android phone ive had. But is there any real reason to jump from stock LG to 4.4 in a rush?
I'd be loosing my quickwindow functionality, the knock on feature (Which i love and know has been implemented in other kernels), my awesome LG lockscreen...and the time i've spent customising.
I'd be gaining, probably a bit of speed, a bit of battery and HDR+ pics (sounds good to me) and possibly the new google now feature (if the screen is on).
The benifits sound good, but speed isnt an issue on the G2, battery isn't...so is it worth jumping from LG stock to an AOSP or similar?
Have I missed anything?
Thanks.
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Knock on is working on the AOSP roms. and if you want Knock off you can just use nova launcher combined with the screen off app. That solves that problem lol.
SamsungGalaxyStig said:
Knock on is working on the AOSP roms. and if you want Knock off you can just use nova launcher combined with the screen off app. That solves that problem lol.
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Yeh and 4.4 deals with bigger screen better by hiding the nav bar more often. That's cool. I don't like Pie so it matters to me
stelucas1984 said:
Right, can you lot help me please.
I have a G2. It's awesome. I've rooted and flashed every android phone ive had. But is there any real reason to jump from stock LG to 4.4 in a rush?
I'd be loosing my quickwindow functionality, the knock on feature (Which i love and know has been implemented in other kernels), my awesome LG lockscreen...and the time i've spent customising.
I'd be gaining, probably a bit of speed, a bit of battery and HDR+ pics (sounds good to me) and possibly the new google now feature (if the screen is on).
The benifits sound good, but speed isnt an issue on the G2, battery isn't...so is it worth jumping from LG stock to an AOSP or similar?
Have I missed anything?
Thanks.
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No, CM is just clean Android. It is up to you whether you want that or not. I am really glad with CM running on my LG G2 (802). Really hate the LG bloatware (just like those apps delivered with Samsung phones ).
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No, CM is just clean Android. It is up to you whether you want that or not. I am really glad with CM running on my LG G2 (802). Really hate the LG bloatware (just like those apps delivered with Samsung phones ).
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Oh yeh, cool, so i'd loose all the bloat and reclaim some of my storage.
But I may also loose IR initially, even though 4.4 supports it..it may take some fixing. But I don't use it anyway...hm..
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Oh yeh, cool, so i'd loose all the bloat and reclaim some of my storage.
But I may also loose IR initially, even though 4.4 supports it..it may take some fixing. But I don't use it anyway...hm..
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Well, your LG ROM is about 1,5 GB, right? The CM ROMs are little over 220 MB. So that alone could be a reason to switch
I don't think stock is soo bad on this phone. If you're rooted you can remove the unnecessary apps that you don't use plus hide the nav bar until you choose to make it visible. I currently have the entire screen available on my G2 and love it.
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Well, your LG ROM is about 1,5 GB, right? The CM ROMs are little over 220 MB. So that alone could be a reason to switch
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Yeh that's true, but then i'd have to flash google apps too...and root my phone. It's all too hard. I'm going to sleep on it and read in the morning. Likely i've got a good few days before the ROMs anyways.
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Yeh and 4.4 deals with bigger screen better by hiding the nav bar more often. That's cool. I don't like Pie so it matters to me
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Yeah, I can deal with pie but it's just too slow versus stock nav bars. When I play games however is the only time I activate PIE and hide the nav buttons, even though I'm using smaller than stock nav bars lol. Most of the time videos play full screen anyway.