I've search around the forum and i can't find the answer i really want so i decided to post here. Anyways..
When I want to flash a custom rom (that requires wipe data), I back up with CWM, install the ROM, then advance restore -> restore data only. Is that the right way to do if i want to keep my settings while switching ROMs?
Thanks!
you can......BUT......restoring system data is not advisable, it may lead to multiple problems.....take the time to set up again, that way you will be exploring your new Roms settings, and definitely don't restore data if you are dealing between Samsung based Roms and others eg. Cm10/aosp/aokp
slaphead20 said:
you can......BUT......restoring system data is not advisable, it may lead to multiple problems.....take the time to set up again, that way you will be exploring your new Roms settings, and definitely don't restore data if you are dealing between Samsung based Roms and others eg. Cm10/aosp/aokp
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oh okay.. what about by using TiBu?
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oh okay.. what about by using TiBu?
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In my experience, the same is valid for TB, do not restore system data. For user apps (e.g. games), till now I had no problem restoring their data.
fakelouis_ said:
I've search around the forum and i can't find the answer i really want so i decided to post here. Anyways..
When I want to flash a custom rom (that requires wipe data), I back up with CWM, install the ROM, then advance restore -> restore data only. Is that the right way to do if i want to keep my settings while switching ROMs?
Thanks!
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Yeah , well what i do for back up while flashing roms is the following:
pictures +music files +videos + contacts > back up to external sd
apps > titanium pro (best way) and you can also restore app data but as the other guy said , is not always recommended...
good luck ...:laugh:
This question has been asked multiple times .
Nandroid backup and restore Data only may work for many .
jje
JJEgan said:
This question has been asked multiple times .
Nandroid backup and restore Data only may work for many .
jje
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1) I did a titanium back up and then mistakenly restored user app+data TiBu gave a warning message that the restore might not work properly on the new rom and then it certainly didn't work and ended up having a FC
2) I flashed again and before flashing i did a TiBu but after flashing TiBu showed no back up's taken.After lot of reading i was told to restore via cwm through advance restore(restore data) but that resulted in stuck up at boot animation so i returned back to previous rom.
3)The question still remains answered.....
Follow the link to sticky roll-up in my signature and read "understanding the basics before rooting"... I've updated the backups section which may help you with titanium
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Hi guys, my question is: are you using Google account to backup/restore after full wipe?
My experience is that only application linked to Paly Store are restored (start installing after set up Google account).
Is it necessary (or recommended) to backup data to Google? Or is it useless?
Thanks
Bartik168 said:
Hi guys, my question is: are you using Google account to backup/restore after full wipe?
My experience is that only application linked to Paly Store are restored (start installing after set up Google account).
Is it necessary (or recommended) to backup data to Google? Or is it useless?
Thanks
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IMO it's useless, backing up with a custom recovery and Titanium Backup is more than enough.
meeklosh said:
IMO it's useless, backing up with a custom recovery and Titanium Backup is more than enough.
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Thanks. I don't know what data are backed up via Google but I think nothing important for recovery after flashing...
Custom recoveries will not wipe the music or dcim folder and therefore u do not nid to back up those.
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hello there guys..,
here i am a newbie asking question that probably has been asked so many times..,
so let get to the point then..,
i want to know is there a way to move app to sdcard without installing custom rom??(maybe by just rooting)
is there a way to save user data?? most preferbly saving the game data??
cause most of the time if i have to install custom rom/ got back to stock rom / or install other custom rom i have to clean all the data (dalvick chace and etc) including the user data
*if this question has been asked/discused please give me the link,
1. Check out move2sd enabler or link2sd.
2. Titanium backup.
All of these require root.
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hi there mihir287 thanks for replying..,
okay will do that..,
but other how does you do the back up n restore it with titanium backup??
cause last time i tr it just back up the app..,
there are three tabs on the top: overview, backup/restore, and schedules. go under backup/restore to restore (this restores apps one at a time). to restore pretty much all of your backed up apps, hit the menu button and then select batch. scroll down to restore and run the operation of your choice
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there are three tabs on the top: overview, backup/restore, and schedules. go under backup/restore to restore (this restores apps one at a time). to restore pretty much all of your backed up apps, hit the menu button and then select batch. scroll down to restore and run the operation of your choice
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sorry for being such bird brain on this but does the titanium backup also backup the app data?? such for game it's saved data ??
el_arcon said:
sorry for being such bird brain on this but does the titanium backup also backup the app data?? such for game it's saved data ??
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Yes.
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okay thanks guys..,
will backup my apps and it's data and then think to upgrade to which room..,
thanks a lot..,
There is one more trick which utilize the custom recovery function.
Doing nandroid backup but instead of selecting all, we select only data to back up.
So after flashing new ROM, nand restore should only covered data not system applications etc.
I believe I read this somewhere in the forum but I forgot where, so, credit goes to him/her
FrenchOnly said:
There is one more trick which utilize the custom recovery function.
Doing nandroid backup but instead of selecting all, we select only data to back up.
So after flashing new ROM, nand restore should only covered data not system applications etc.
I believe I read this somewhere in the forum but I forgot where, so, credit goes to him/her
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nice point mate..,
will do that if i'm about to tweaks the phone again..
I was reading this page (Sorry for breaking the rule of not linking to sites as a new user)
teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod9:GT-I9300:How_to_install
and I saw this line
Don't restore Apps using Titanium Backup!
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Why is this?
Edit: I read about it online and people say it's because when coming from GB to ICS there are different data structures, but that doesn't explain why it's in the S3 page since the stock rom is ICS.
Using TB to restore . It cannot restore apps and data and system from another OS .
Samsung is one OS CM is a different OS .
Apps on their own minus data could well transfer OK .
jje
Because everyone has different experiences with titanium restores and different apps so if something goes wrong with the restore it might be hard for anyone to help you.
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JJEgan said:
Using TB to restore . It cannot restore apps and data and system from another OS .
Samsung is one OS CM is a different OS .
Apps on their own minus data could well transfer OK .
jje
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But to be fair, most user apps can be restored with data. I'm referring to apps like angry birds and such. System apps are of course out of the question.
So most likely restoring user apps will go without problems since I don't have many apps installed?
DisturbedTK said:
So most likely restoring user apps will go without problems since I don't have many apps installed?
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Most likely; if you want to be safe though, restore the ones for which data is not so important without data. But seriously though, I think you'll be fine. (user apps have almost never given me issues, and in the rare case they did, I just reinstalled them)
To be honest MOST, if not ALL problems from Titanium restores is due to system apps. NEVER restore system apps, and you should be golden
is it possible to backup apps from SG2 on sdcard and restore them on SG3 from sdcard , would that work ? both CM9
Yes, as long as you do not restore system apps it should be fine.
i am doing only "backup all user apps" not all system data , so i guess it should be fine
I have been switching between cm9 based roms and saamy based roms to find the best and experiment (my first android) all week and never has restoring user apps given me any problemsp.
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So i backed up my phone via CWM before custom ROM installation. After installation of the new ROM, is there any way to just restore the app+data from the previous backup ??
Yes i know i can use TB but i want to know if there is a way to restore from the CWM backup I created !!
i tried google search n all but no satisfying answer
MoonBlade said:
So i backed up my phone via CWM before custom ROM installation. After installation of the new ROM, is there any way to just restore the app+data from the previous backup ??
Yes i know i can use TB but i want to know if there is a way to restore from the CWM backup I created !!
i tried google search n all but no satisfying answer
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As far as I know, cwm backs up both user apps and system apps with their data so if u restore it from there, the old sytem apps and data might conflict with the new one...so I would advise against it.
Use cwm and completely restore ur old Rom, make a backup usng tb and then flash ur new Rom... Safest way!
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samajid said:
As far as I know, cwm backs up both user apps and system apps with their data so if u restore it from there, the old sytem apps and data might conflict with the new one...so I would advise against it.
Use cwm and completely restore ur old Rom, make a backup usng tb and then flash ur new Rom... Safest way!
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I just want to select user apps and data associated and restore it from backup. I wont be restoring the system apps coz of interference.. Is there any kind of app or program to do this ??
try titanium backup>restore from nandroid
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try titanium backup>restore from nandroid
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Thanks man i didnt know there was an option for this in TB all this time . Noob me
suael said:
try titanium backup>restore from nandroid
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I didn't know that function of Titanium Backup either...
I think that will make so much easier for me the fact of testing more ROMs on my cellphone, thanks you
You can simply backup your apps and data via TB and
After installing a new ROM just restore APP+DATA via TB... best way to sort and backup and restore apps individually :thumbup:
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You could also use yaffey to extract anything from a CWM backup:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645412
On some clockworkmod versions you can do an advanced restore and just choose data. Never tried it but maybe give it a shot
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On some clockworkmod versions you can do an advanced restore and just choose data. Never tried it but maybe give it a shot
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Not recommendable....if your phone is on different ROM before backup, restoring the backup data into different ROM will make your phone bootloop (really bad cases) or lost statusbar/setting and etc (light cases)....
since he already make a backup then TB is the best choices...
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Not recommendable....if your phone is on different ROM before backup, restoring the backup data into different ROM will make your phone bootloop (really bad cases) or lost statusbar/setting and etc (light cases)....
since he already make a backup then TB is the best choices...
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+1:thumbup:
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Pusak Gaoq said:
Not recommendable....if your phone is on different ROM before backup, restoring the backup data into different ROM will make your phone bootloop (really bad cases) or lost statusbar/setting and etc (light cases)....
since he already make a backup then TB is the best choices...
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i will be using the restore only for the user apps and not the system apps. i think there wouldnt be bootloop if i do so...
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i will be using the restore only for the user apps and not the system apps. i think there wouldnt be bootloop if i do so...
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You Think????
FYI : Backup from CWM contains the whole pack of the previous ROM....when you choose to restore data only, it restore all data including User Apps Data and System Apps Data....when System Apps Data is restore into a different ROM, you bet it going to make your phone into bootloop....
you are welcome to try it if you don't believe me....
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You Think????
FYI : Backup from CWM contains the whole pack of the previous ROM....when you choose to restore data only, it restore all data including User Apps Data and System Apps Data....when System Apps Data is restore into a different ROM, you bet it going to make your phone into bootloop....
you are welcome to try it if you don't believe me....
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I was talking about the selective backup of nandroid backup from TB. Ofc in a CWM data restore all apps(system+user) get restored. Im well aware of that and I wont be trying that
Anyways i think this tool is the best option right now. So thanks iOneX for the info :good:
A bit late I guess..
Well, I come here six months later, but Google brought me here...
I guess you're already using Online Nandroid Backup combined with Nandroid Manager. Just two days ago I restored user apps+data with Nandroid Manager from a backup created through Online Nandroid Backup. Both apps from H3r3t1c are really useful, specially working together.
Aside of this advice (surely already not needed) I was looking after a script to restore those user apps+data from a backup. I wanna include that script in my list of zips-to-flash in ZipInstaller
I'd appreciate any help. Cheers.
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.
Now I know this is a boob question but I've read so many conflicting answers.
If I switch roms and want to keep all data, eg game saves, app data, WiFi settings, launcher settings etc, what is the best practice to do so?
In the past I've used ROM toolbox pro to backup apps and then restore in new ROM?
But I've read that this isn't recommended?
What is recommended? Backup via recovery?
If so how is it done?
Assuming I'm switching ROMS completely? Eg CM11 to cloudy?
Valiceemo said:
Now I know this is a boob question but I've read so many conflicting answers.
If I switch roms and want to keep all data, eg game saves, app data, WiFi settings, launcher settings etc, what is the best practice to do so?
In the past I've used ROM toolbox pro to backup apps and then restore in new ROM?
But I've read that this isn't recommended?
What is recommended? Backup via recovery?
If so how is it done?
Assuming I'm switching ROMS completely? Eg CM11 to cloudy?
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Where did your read that? Its not a good idea to restore system settings but restoring user apps and their data is perfectly fine. If by WiFi settings you mean access point passwords then that should be fine too.
If your individual apps have a built in backup function I would also use that to backup your data just in case.
jr67 said:
Where did your read that? Its not a good idea to restore system settings but restoring user apps and their data is perfectly fine. If by WiFi settings you mean access point passwords then that should be fine too.
If your individual apps have a built in backup function I would also use that to backup your data just in case.
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Ah ok. Thanks.
Read it in a few threads.
So I'll just use ROM toolbox pro then.
So it can't be done via twrp backup of 'system'
Valiceemo said:
Ah ok. Thanks.
Read it in a few threads.
So I'll just use ROM toolbox pro then.
So it can't be done via twrp backup of 'system'
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A nandroid backup (backing up via recovery) is a backup of your entire system, not only apps but also your ROM--so basically if you restore a nandroid backup you're phone will be entirely restored to the way it ways when you did the backup.
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A nandroid backup (backing up via recovery) is a backup of your entire system, not only apps but also your ROM--so basically if you restore a nandroid backup you're phone will be entirely restored to the way it ways when you did the backup.
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Yes I know.
Just wondered if it was possible to back up only app data.
Valiceemo said:
Yes I know.
Just wondered if it was possible to back up only app data.
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I don't think you can do a backup of just your app data in recovery.
If you wanted to restore your user apps & data it's the data partition not system you would need to restore but the data partition is where recovery backs up to. How can recovery write to/read the very same partition that it's simultaneously backing up/restoring.