Hello All,
I do not post on XDA (Silent reader haha) This would be my first thread.
Anyways, I have a couple of questions that I could not seem to find solid answers to.
I'm on Stock Jellybean I9300XXDLIH. I plan on rooting using Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root (the one that keeps stock recovery)
Q1.) If I root using that, then later if I want to restore my phone to TOTAL stock to keep warranty, will I be safe by using TriangleAway and then flashing Stock firmware (Of the same region) using Odin? Are these 2 steps enough? Some people have got that tiny red exclamation mark,something about a new bootloader.. has that issue been resolved?
Q2.) I have heard that OTA updates are not a good idea after rooting. However I want to use Kies to update my firmware, after rooting and using TriangleAway. Is this a problem?
Q3.) I think we are getting a 4.1.2 update soon with premium suite .. around this month. Is it better to wait for that update before I root?
Q4.) If it is wise to root now, can somebody please link me to a guide that tells me what it is safe to remove from stock rom? I have downloaded a debloat tool from a guide, but I opened the .BAT file with a text editor, read the commands and saw that it removed too many things for my liking, some of them I would want to keep..
Q5.) Does the Stock Kernel support overclocking/Underclocking/Undervolting? (I am guessing not, being hopeful Interested in underclocking and undervolting.) Are there any drawbacks to using a Kernel like Siyah's in terms of battery life and stability? Does the Stock rom at least support underclocking by itself? On my Old galaxy mini it did..
Thank you, sorry for the long post or if the questions seem repeated (Spent loads of time searching!):laugh:
Anyone?
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Nimer.abdul said:
Q1.) If I root using that, then later if I want to restore my phone to TOTAL stock to keep warranty, will I be safe by using TriangleAway and then flashing Stock firmware (Of the same region) using Odin? Are these 2 steps enough? Some people have got that tiny red exclamation mark,something about a new bootloader.. has that issue been resolved?
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Yes you can do that. You can find many guides here. Some members have made video tutorials Gore's third too.
I never had any issue with triangle away.
Q2.) I have heard that OTA updates are not a good idea after rooting. However I want to use Kies to update my firmware, after rooting and using TriangleAway. Is this a problem?
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If you root then your phones binary counter will increase and phone will show in modified state. You will not be able to use ota upgrades. But I don't miss kies a bit because I got so much more with little secrifise. Also there are better options for backing up your phone then kies.
Q3.) I think we are getting a 4.1.2 update soon with premium suite .. around this month. Is it better to wait for that update before I root?
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If that's what you want. But there are many custom roms already have 4.1.2 and they are much better then stock rom for battery, speed and smoothness. I could never convince myself go back to stock rom after trying some of custom rooms with lots of additional features.
Q4.) If it is wise to root now, can somebody please link me to a guide that tells me what it is safe to remove from stock rom? I have downloaded a debloat tool from a guide, but I opened the .BAT file with a text editor, read the commands and saw that it removed too many things for my liking, some of them I would want to keep..
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You might want to search forum or YouTube for video tutorials. I learn that way.
Q5.) Does the Stock Kernel support overclocking/Underclocking/Undervolting? (I am guessing not, being hopeful Interested in underclocking and undervolting.) Are there any drawbacks to using a Kernel like Siyah's in terms of battery life and stability? Does the Stock rom at least support underclocking by itself? On my Old galaxy mini it did..
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Stock kernel do not support these. I use siyah and it's best in my opinion and experience.
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If you want to follow a tutorial then here it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715822
to unroot and get your guarantee back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613
Thank you for the reply.
rl421403 said:
Yes you can do that. You can find many guides here. Some members have made video tutorials Gore's third too.
I never had any issue with triangle away.
If you root then your phones binary counter will increase and phone will show in modified state. You will not be able to use ota upgrades. But I don't miss kies a bit because I got so much more with little secrifise. Also there are better options for backing up your phone then kies.
If that's what you want. But there are many custom roms already have 4.1.2 and they are much better then stock rom for battery, speed and smoothness. I could never convince myself go back to stock rom after trying some of custom rooms with lots of additional features.
You might want to search forum or YouTube for video tutorials. I learn that way.
Stock kernel do not support these. I use siyah and it's best in my opinion and experience.
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If you want to follow a tutorial then here it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715822
to unroot and get your guarantee back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613
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This is the issue I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918667
Also I was asking about Update via Kies, not OTA.(And after I use TriangleAway) Thank you.
Nimer.abdul said:
This is the issue I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918667
Also I was asking about Update via Kies, not OTA.(And after I use TriangleAway) Thank you.
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I am not sure about this issue because I never faced this one. I purchased S3 last month and Isince then I have been flashing custom roms. I already tried 15-20 roms. Never had any issue.
All you had to do is completely follow instructions and make sure rom/mod/app is compatible with your phone model
Why do you want to update via Kies? I think Kies will only work if you keep your device pure. Also, you can update/flash official firmware with Odin/Mobile odin. That's what I do. Most of the people here do not use kies for upgrading firmware but they download stock samsung firmware from http://www.sammobile.com and flash it with Odin. It take 30 secs, as simple as that.
Thank you for your time.
I already know about Odin and Samfirmware, it's just that this is an expensive phone and don't want to use any unofficial software apart from Root.. for now.
There is no way to know unless you try it yourself. Nobody here can assure you that some process or rom or mod will definitely work on your phone.
This is kind of you-are-responsible-for-your-act forum.
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Hi, I got my galaxy s2 in the post a week ago, but it was second hand, apparently unwanted upgrade. Anyway, is this an official kernal please, as I haven't seen it on any other device on YouTube when watching a meriad of reviews. So I have attached a screen shot of the kernal version. By the way this should be a sim free UK modal. I know this is random, but I have stupidly got my self a bit worried, could someone help me please? Thanks very much
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It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
Nothing wrong there, you're rooted. If you're worried you could flash a different kernel! Easy as pie if you follow the threads available
Hi, but root checker says that I don't have root same with set cpu. Also, can i update it ota, to the new 2.3.4 when it comes out officially please? Also, I rooted my old htc desire, and then I wanted to root my galaxy s2 when ever here was a stableish nightly for ice cream sandwich, but will the fact it hasn't got an official kernel obscure me from flashing using odin to flash roms, other kenels and installing custom recovery, or because it says it isn't rooted, will it obscure be from rooting. Also are there any risks please? I am new to galaxy s2, I am used to the simplify of rooting the desire. thanks, also how do you know it's rooted?
Thanks very much for your help
johncmolyneux said:
It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
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Also, could you please be able to tell be, where in the procedure of rooting is my phone to be able to root, flash if someone has started the work for me please? I am just scared that if I start to mess around with trying to root it, and if someone has started the rooting the process, I might brick it. I don't know if I have explained this very well.
I should have done this before, but when it is so long I didn't think it would work, but I typed in the kernel in the search box and it came up with this, I think it may be stock and completely normal after all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14593753
I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
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I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
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Or if you start flashing Samsung Galaxy S 1 files onto your Samsung Galaxy S 2 like some people...
my brand new phone from vodafone australia was kernel dukf4 with [email protected] in the title, but it was most certainly not a rooted device.
I am now on ke7, rooted, no dramas. dont have cwm or rom, phone does not seem to need it for my lifestyle.
Hi All,
Please forgive me, I had an iPhone for the last 5 years and it was jailbroken each firmware update.
I just made the android jump (love it!) and i've come to root... and i'm stumped!
I got Odin... But then knowing which firmware/kernal/thingy to use is confusing me badly.
I'm GS3 GT-I93000, T-Mobile in the UK...
Can anyone just point me in the right direction? I just want to be able to enable to added features of things such as Avast Anti-Theft (GPS auto on) which require rooting!
Thanks!
All you need is in the first few posts of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
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I used this guide to root my t mobile s3.
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3/
Follow each step carefully and you should be fine
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Khy50 said:
I used this guide to root my t mobile s3.
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3/
Follow each step carefully and you should be fine
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Nvm
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The T-Mobile, UK Version has looked bootloader from what I have been told.
there are plenty of rooting video guides in the general section (to many to link just search) . Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238 is probably the easiest way to root with the best guide.
If you are still stuck after looking through those just message back here and I will try to help the best I can.
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The T-Mobile, UK Version has looked bootloader from what I have been told.
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Mine didn't
andyb949 said:
Mine didn't
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Heard a few of my friends complaining that it did, but then again they probably where doing it wrong and had a USB connected or the phone turned on or something lol.
In the end I rooted it using the first method replied in this post, worked like a charm. Doesn't seem to have any kind of branded or locked bootloader from what I can tell, and root apps are working as they should.
A further question.. on my old iPhone, if I jailbroke it and update the firmware, it reversed the jailbreak.
I want to update the firmware on my GS3 to the latest, will it undo the root? Will I have to re-install root apps etc?
Or will the device stay rooted once i've upgrade?
Many thanks for your help, you guys/gals are a friendly bunch of clever-cloggs.
Here is a link to cwm flashable stock Roms, lg8 is what you want, you can flash these in recovery. I advise after flashing that you upgrade your modem to lh1 which is latest for uk and fixed some issues. Link also supplied
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704185
[ROM][CWM][XXBLG9][ICS][4.0.4] Odexed & Fully Deodexed Stock Roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740061
[REF] Galaxy S3 Modem / Radio Collection (I9300 & I9300T ONLY) CWM & Odin Flashable
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All matters regarding root etc, how to reset flash counter and return to stock for warranty can be found in i9300/General/stickies
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but whats the significance of this ROM?
Here's my device so far...
Stock ROM (never flashed anything custom) which I rooted using the above method.
I want to update to the latest firmware for the i9300, still stock though as I haven't found a feature in a custom ROM worth messing with it for me.
Then I was just going to re-root (if I needed to).
Does the ROM you posted mean that I won't have to re-root? And it will stay rooted?
And the modem thing... I don't understand.
I'm sorry to be a pain!
Thank you for your help,
the Rom listed are flashable through recovery, and there are a choice of odexed and deodexed stock Roms. Odex is the standard Rom, and Odex basically helps load apps a bit quicker, but has some drawbacks also. I could spend hours trying to fill you in but reading all the links and information I have supplied you with is the easier option
Unless you want to return the favor and spend the next few days explaining the mysteries of Windows to me, then I may consider some mutual spoon feeding
So.. to answer my question, does flashing through recov mean you do not have to re-root the device?
I wonder why the modem update is seperate? You would think they would include such things in the firmware update.
I'm a wizz on windows - fire away! haha.
I do genuinely appreciate your advice and help.
So.. to answer my question, does flashing through recov mean you do not have to re-root the device?
Yes if its not rooted .
Modems are part of firmware but can also be flashed as a separate item .
jje
JJE - My device is rooted though, which I explained
Also, the recov flashable firmware posted above lists this..
"Firmware info:
•Base Firmware: I9300XXBLG9 (4.0.4)
•Region Asia
•Country: Singapore
•Carrier: Unbranded
•Build Date: 30 July 2012
•Modem: DXLG2
•CSC: OLBBLG2
•Change List: 928452"
BLG8 has a version for Europe/UK.. but not BLG9...
Will I have to install the older one?
flash lg8 as I said, ...... lg9 is the Asian version. The modem was a separate ota update to remedy some problems.
I'm on uk Orange/t mobile so all is good
At op to your original Q... all you have to do is stay on your firmware unless you cant wait for the update to be released in the uk, then you can download the latest firmware either from xda or sammobile.com and flash with odin. Now if you stay on your firmware sometimes it will not update properly through kies because of root. In that case go on sammobile and download the firmware for your phone and flash with odin. You will lose root but you already have cf root on your computer so just root again.
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I just got a GS3 and was immediately given a notification about a system update. I know these can sometimes making rooting a pain, so I wanted to ask if it's ok for me to perform this update or if I should just ignore it if I plan on rooting.
2nd question is whether, like previous Android phones I've had, the GS3 has several rooting methods or just one that everyone uses.
Thanks!
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I just got a GS3 and was immediately given a notification about a system update. I know these can sometimes making rooting a pain, so I wanted to ask if it's ok for me to perform this update or if I should just ignore it if I plan on rooting.
2nd question is whether, like previous Android phones I've had, the GS3 has several rooting methods or just one that everyone uses.
Thanks!
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Preform the update or not, it will not make a difference when it comes to rooting. If you plan on installing a custom rom or updating to JB then save yourself the time and forgo the update. As you will be doing this when you install a custom rom or JB stock.
There are a few methods out there for rooting, just search around here on xda. The easiest method I have found is CFRoot using ODIN. It is packaged together, just do a search on xda for the thread and download. Really easy should take no more than 5 minutes.
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Preform the update or not, it will not make a difference when it comes to rooting. If you plan on installing a custom rom or updating to JB then save yourself the time and forgo the update. As you will be doing this when you install a custom rom or JB stock.
There are a few methods out there for rooting, just search around here on xda. The easiest method I have found is CFRoot using ODIN. It is packaged together, just do a search on xda for the thread and download. Really easy should take no more than 5 minutes.
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Awesome. Thank you! I'm sure there has to be an I9300 non-SFR flavoured ROM out there. Any idea what the closest thing to Vanilla is for this phone?
Hi Guys,
I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
m1k30rz said:
Hi Guys,
I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
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If 4.1.2 was not yet launched in NZ, then you will not get any update for your phone at the moment.
What you could do is, root your phone and then install the 4.1.2 version (Poland)(root is not required for flashing though). For rooting refer to the stickies in general section. Popular methods are CF-Root 6.4 (incl. CWM as recovery) or CF-Auto-Root (keeps stock recovery) (both can be found in dev. section).
After rooting you will not be able to get OTA updates though, whereas KIES should still work (but you will loose root if you update).
In addition, make sure to read all the stickies and guides for rooting before you touch anything! Especially the EFS backup procedure.
I hope it helps.
Rooting your phone voids it from getting OTA updates.
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I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
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As said above 4.1.2 is still not available in NZ. So you can flash other ones (like Poland) if needed.
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
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After rooting OTA updates will not work. But you can still get the firmware and flash them through Odin. This will remove root and will have to go through the rooting procedure again.
I feel samsung will release 4.1.2 for other regions soon and my suggestion would be to wait for that and then go ahead with rooting
You don't need to root your phone to install an official firmware!
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You don't need to root your phone to install an official firmware!
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No one says you need to in this post .
jje
Thanks guys yeah 4.1.2 does not look like its been released yet, I'll wait for it to come out then root cheers!
I used to wait for offical releases, then realised there was no need - the custom ROMs are far better than the official and much faster at new releases than regional Samsung rollout. They also get rid of the battery sapping bling most people only use the once.
If you are going to root anyhow, then the warranty isn't a concern.
Just had bad experiences with 3rd-party ROM's. Had a Desire Z and ran about 5 different roms, cyanogen, gingerbread and ICS variants, mimcry, ilwt, extreme mod, and none of them seemed to run very well after a few weeks of use. The stock ROM on this galaxy is flying like no tomorrow! especially after simply disabling the garbage apps
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Just had bad experiences with 3rd-party ROM's. Had a Desire Z and ran about 5 different roms, cyanogen, gingerbread and ICS variants, mimcry, ilwt, extreme mod, and none of them seemed to run very well after a few weeks of use. The stock ROM on this galaxy is flying like no tomorrow! especially after simply disabling the garbage apps
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I'll admit that Samsung could teach HTC quite a few things about writing a good ROM, I'm sticking with customs of the stock jb 4.1.2 for now as it all works so well and saves me having to remember what needs disabling. I tried a few minimalist roms before sticking with the viking one.
I've got a 4.1.2 in NZ but that's because my phone bricked and they updated it when fixing it(4.1.2 supposed to have the fix for bricking)
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yeah, also because the thread is couple of months old
After updating to I9205XXUCML1_I9205OXXCML2_I9205XXUCML1_HOME I can't root anymore unless I install a custom rom, are there any pre-rooted stock roms?
If not which PDA from SamMobile is rootable?
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spirituselectus said:
Never mind I just flashed twrp recovery, wiped everything in advanced wipe, reflashed the portuguese firmware via odin and it booted into the stock rom, weird thing is this time the default language wasn't french, it was polish. Oh well.
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Hi there... it's a kind of epic story of life... unfortunately it sometimes happens ... By the way - have you heard about prog named Odin?
Anyway I am glad so you have your Mega up and working. It is the best phone ever .
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spirituselectus said:
bro, u know how sometimes u read an instructions article in a hurry and sometimes dont finish it thinking your common sense will seal the deal. thats what happened with me, better to be near sure about results then taking chances and regreting it. im positive I wouldve saved alot of time if I stopped for a while and read carefully. atleast I can say I learnt a few things here and there, still dont know whether I can root this rom. frankly cant be bothered to try anymore, developers on the mega section could make their rom introductions abit easier to the common user with simple background knowlege, especially regarding going back if not happy. I was planning to install linux with my root, but after all thats happened these past months i cant be bothered to even adjust settings according to my taste, e.g. my keyboard is still vibrating when i type. the notification bar on top is to far on this tabl...smart phone and settings gets lost in the stock cloud wallpaper. im just gonna roll with it, maybe samsung does know whats best for their phones, if they'd only let us move the app drawer to the centre of the dock dammit.
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Yes, I know how it happens...
There is thread about rooting ROM with KNOX from ValenteL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574953
As I am afraid your counter of unofficial installation is tipped to 1 and you are already void your warranty, maybe try a shoot for it. Anyway if you want to stay with new ROM it will be sensible to made factory reset of your phone and installing on it newest ROM once more, but this time through Odin from your PC. Lets read about how to use Odin (there are several threads on forum) and download from Sammobile newest, not branded ROM. In this manner you can make fresh start. Then if you dare you can try to root it using method from link above.
Me I am very careful about upgrades and do not decided to flash in blind newest ROMs when they arrive... and all for better, because new ROMs comes with new bootloader (which prevent to downgrade to previous versions and when you try you can brick your phone) and with dreadful KNOX... Now i will wait at least for KitKat to upgrade.
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I really hate it when Samsung went for Knox.. It made life harder for our devs