I just got a GS3 and was immediately given a notification about a system update. I know these can sometimes making rooting a pain, so I wanted to ask if it's ok for me to perform this update or if I should just ignore it if I plan on rooting.
2nd question is whether, like previous Android phones I've had, the GS3 has several rooting methods or just one that everyone uses.
Thanks!
tinpanalley said:
I just got a GS3 and was immediately given a notification about a system update. I know these can sometimes making rooting a pain, so I wanted to ask if it's ok for me to perform this update or if I should just ignore it if I plan on rooting.
2nd question is whether, like previous Android phones I've had, the GS3 has several rooting methods or just one that everyone uses.
Thanks!
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Preform the update or not, it will not make a difference when it comes to rooting. If you plan on installing a custom rom or updating to JB then save yourself the time and forgo the update. As you will be doing this when you install a custom rom or JB stock.
There are a few methods out there for rooting, just search around here on xda. The easiest method I have found is CFRoot using ODIN. It is packaged together, just do a search on xda for the thread and download. Really easy should take no more than 5 minutes.
NewAussiefromCanada said:
Preform the update or not, it will not make a difference when it comes to rooting. If you plan on installing a custom rom or updating to JB then save yourself the time and forgo the update. As you will be doing this when you install a custom rom or JB stock.
There are a few methods out there for rooting, just search around here on xda. The easiest method I have found is CFRoot using ODIN. It is packaged together, just do a search on xda for the thread and download. Really easy should take no more than 5 minutes.
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Awesome. Thank you! I'm sure there has to be an I9300 non-SFR flavoured ROM out there. Any idea what the closest thing to Vanilla is for this phone?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
butikofer08 said:
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
I rooted my SGS2 i777 that was running Gingerbread. After rooting I used Titanium Backup for complete backup. Then I flashed leaked ICS 4.0.3 Build # IML74K.117 thinking it was the full blown ICS operating system, which it wasn't. That process also un-rooted my SGS2 so now I'm unable to access my Titanium Backup. Tried rooting again using same process as first time but was unsuccessful. Got the dreaded "yellow triangle". Was able to flash same ICS firmware as before. So I currently have above mentiond OS & Build and am not rooted. Questions...is there a root for the 4.0.3? If so, if I were to root again is there a better "leaked" ICS or should I wait for the "anticipated" official release? Main concern is that my Titanium Backup is still intact and I will be able to access it when rooted again. End result is that I'd like to be rooted and have ICS OS.
Please advise!
You didn't even bother searching did you? Try it it works wonders.
FYI the ATT leak IS ICS. What part isn't "full blown"? Its a leak which probably means its not even complete yet (there's already been 3 leaks so far). If it wasn't ICS it wouldn't say Android 4.0.3.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
Always read the stickies before posting.
OP, if I were you, I would follow the link posted above by mattdm. Then do return to stock with root, and then get cm9. Quit Touchwiz altogether, it ruins the taste of ice cream sandwich.
If people not wanting to read 500 different pages in a forum bothers you, forums probably aren't the best thing for you to be involved with
Geez people are ruid on this site.
Slavestate said:
You didn't even bother searching did you? Try it it works wonders.
FYI the ATT leak IS ICS. What part isn't "full blown"? Its a leak which probably means its not even complete yet (there's already been 3 leaks so far). If it wasn't ICS it wouldn't say Android 4.0.3.
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It gets highly annoying seeing the same crap asked day after day when you could just READ THE STICKIES and have your questions answered. Btw, I believe "rude" is the word you were looking for.
OP: Flash back to stock KH7 2.3.4, root using superoneclick 2.3.3, flash entropy's daily driver kernel (the .tar one) with mobile odin to give you clockworkmod recovery, flash this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568080
Rooted, basically stock Samsung ICS.
mgd76 said:
OP, if I were you, I would follow the link posted above by mattdm. Then do return to stock with root, and then get cm9. Quit Touchwiz altogether, it ruins the taste of ice cream sandwich.
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It gets highly annoying seeing the same crap asked day after day when you could just READ THE STICKIES and have your questions answered. Btw, I believe "rude" is the word you were looking for.
OP: Flash back to stock KH7 2.3.4, root using superoneclick 2.3.3, flash entropy's daily driver kernel (the .tar one) with mobile odin to give you clockworkmod recovery, flash this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568080
Rooted, basically stock Samsung ICS.
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Yup... do what they said. When I got my GS2, first thing I did was read; must've read for like about 2 hours.. lol. Point is it may seem daunting because there's so much information, but it's worth it in the long run. In no time you'll have your device rooted correctly and be a happy flasher. And it saves you from turning your device into an expensive brick.
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If people not wanting to read 500 different pages in a forum bothers you, forums probably aren't the best thing for you to be involved with
Geez people are ruid on this site.
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If people not wanting to do research before asking already-asked or already-answered questions bothers you, then I'd say that busy forums like this are probably not the best place for *you* or them.
This site is for developers, who do an incredible job of providing top-notch material for our devices. Getting software, instructions and advice here is a privilege, not a right.
Before I rooted and flashed my phone, I read and researched here for several days. That time likely would have been shortened if I hadn't also had to plow through useless pages of people asking questions about things that had already been explained in the first post of a thread, a sticky or answered within the thread (which a simple forum search would have found).
Point taken, but, I am a senior member of a lot of forums I have knowledge in and I am never rude when answering questions that someone new to the topic has. What you don't think about they may have searched and not realize they asked the same question over in different terms. You guys know all the terminology and other people may not. Some people on this site have very short fuses instead of using their knowledge to help people.
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It gets highly annoying seeing the same crap asked day after day when you could just READ THE STICKIES and have your questions answered. Btw, I believe "rude" is the word you were looking for.
OP: Flash back to stock KH7 2.3.4, root using superoneclick 2.3.3, flash entropy's daily driver kernel (the .tar one) with mobile odin to give you clockworkmod recovery, flash this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568080
Rooted, basically stock Samsung ICS.
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Point taken, but, I am a senior member of a lot of forums I have knowledge in and I am never rude when answering questions that someone new to the topic has. What you don't think about they may have searched and not realize they asked the same question over in different terms. You guys know all the terminology and other people may not. Some people on this site have very short fuses instead of using their knowledge to help people.
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Sorry, I'm just grumpy today
I am to my bad. There is just so much for newbies to learn about these phones.
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Sorry, I'm just grumpy today
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The main thing is that you don't want to update using one-click installers (which it sounds like you did) as they will more than likely contain bootloaders. The newer ICS leaks are a full featured ICS with some bugs (known or unknown). They are loaded with TouchWiz which is Samsung's launcher of choice. If you want a launcher more like the one in ICS you can easily install either Trebuchet, Apex, or Nova. They are all built from the original ICS launcher and serve to enhance it in some form. I personally use Nova.
Task650 has been releasing CWM flashable versions of the leak that do not have bootloaders, contain the version matching kernel with CWM already included, and are pre-rooted.
The main bit you might need to do is get the restore to stock (that you install with odin/heimdall) and start over. Once you load that root, install a cwm enabled kernel, then try updating again but this time use the CWM flashable package instead.
What to Flash after you root again.
I would suggest getting on Task650's rom you can find it here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718. This rom lets you make a ton of modifications to your phone. If you want the ICS experience with speed and stability you can go with Phone-Brickers rom its good too. These are specifically made for the I-777. I use both of these dual booting with siyah kernal for SGS2.
So yeah... I was in a rush to fix my phone and I followed this tut due to its simpleness (don't know if that word actually exists.)
http://www.blogotechblog.com/2012/03/samsung-galaxy-s2-i777-official-ice-cream-sandwich/
Thing is it actually fixed the phone and installed the OTA ICS. But it goot unrooted again...
Now, I know I deserve it for wandering out of your ever mercyful xda-comunity noob poultry yard. But I was wondering if you guys know a way to root this thing again.
Tho, I do like the interface I'm curious about the full and pure Google experience.
Thanks in advance my fellas. I'm counting on you as always.
gillmanguera said:
So yeah... I was in a rush to fix my phone and I followed this tut due to its simpleness (don't know if that word actually exists.)
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Next time, stop rushing and do some research first. There is no official "OTA ICS". You used a leaked unfinished build, and the wrong one at that. If you found XDA, you should've been able to find all the info you needed in the Development forum.
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You should probably Odin back to stock first. Then if you want the AT&T ICS leak, use my guide to install a ClockworkMod Recovery enabled kernel, then flash the UCLD3 leak package by Task650.
No, the OTA ICS cannot be rooted because you can't root that which DOES NOT EXIST.
Hi Guys,
I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
m1k30rz said:
Hi Guys,
I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
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If 4.1.2 was not yet launched in NZ, then you will not get any update for your phone at the moment.
What you could do is, root your phone and then install the 4.1.2 version (Poland)(root is not required for flashing though). For rooting refer to the stickies in general section. Popular methods are CF-Root 6.4 (incl. CWM as recovery) or CF-Auto-Root (keeps stock recovery) (both can be found in dev. section).
After rooting you will not be able to get OTA updates though, whereas KIES should still work (but you will loose root if you update).
In addition, make sure to read all the stickies and guides for rooting before you touch anything! Especially the EFS backup procedure.
I hope it helps.
Rooting your phone voids it from getting OTA updates.
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I just bought a new Galaxy S3 here in New Zealand and before I start using it, I want to update it to the latest version, I believe 4.1.2 and then root it, can this be done? whats the best option for me? I see the Galaxy Toolkit to do the rooting, is this the most popular/best ?
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As said above 4.1.2 is still not available in NZ. So you can flash other ones (like Poland) if needed.
Also after rooted, can I still do the OTA updates or will I have to flash custom roms?
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After rooting OTA updates will not work. But you can still get the firmware and flash them through Odin. This will remove root and will have to go through the rooting procedure again.
I feel samsung will release 4.1.2 for other regions soon and my suggestion would be to wait for that and then go ahead with rooting
You don't need to root your phone to install an official firmware!
Tyxerakias said:
You don't need to root your phone to install an official firmware!
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No one says you need to in this post .
jje
Thanks guys yeah 4.1.2 does not look like its been released yet, I'll wait for it to come out then root cheers!
I used to wait for offical releases, then realised there was no need - the custom ROMs are far better than the official and much faster at new releases than regional Samsung rollout. They also get rid of the battery sapping bling most people only use the once.
If you are going to root anyhow, then the warranty isn't a concern.
Just had bad experiences with 3rd-party ROM's. Had a Desire Z and ran about 5 different roms, cyanogen, gingerbread and ICS variants, mimcry, ilwt, extreme mod, and none of them seemed to run very well after a few weeks of use. The stock ROM on this galaxy is flying like no tomorrow! especially after simply disabling the garbage apps
m1k30rz said:
Just had bad experiences with 3rd-party ROM's. Had a Desire Z and ran about 5 different roms, cyanogen, gingerbread and ICS variants, mimcry, ilwt, extreme mod, and none of them seemed to run very well after a few weeks of use. The stock ROM on this galaxy is flying like no tomorrow! especially after simply disabling the garbage apps
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I'll admit that Samsung could teach HTC quite a few things about writing a good ROM, I'm sticking with customs of the stock jb 4.1.2 for now as it all works so well and saves me having to remember what needs disabling. I tried a few minimalist roms before sticking with the viking one.
I've got a 4.1.2 in NZ but that's because my phone bricked and they updated it when fixing it(4.1.2 supposed to have the fix for bricking)
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Hello All,
I do not post on XDA (Silent reader haha) This would be my first thread.
Anyways, I have a couple of questions that I could not seem to find solid answers to.
I'm on Stock Jellybean I9300XXDLIH. I plan on rooting using Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root (the one that keeps stock recovery)
Q1.) If I root using that, then later if I want to restore my phone to TOTAL stock to keep warranty, will I be safe by using TriangleAway and then flashing Stock firmware (Of the same region) using Odin? Are these 2 steps enough? Some people have got that tiny red exclamation mark,something about a new bootloader.. has that issue been resolved?
Q2.) I have heard that OTA updates are not a good idea after rooting. However I want to use Kies to update my firmware, after rooting and using TriangleAway. Is this a problem?
Q3.) I think we are getting a 4.1.2 update soon with premium suite .. around this month. Is it better to wait for that update before I root?
Q4.) If it is wise to root now, can somebody please link me to a guide that tells me what it is safe to remove from stock rom? I have downloaded a debloat tool from a guide, but I opened the .BAT file with a text editor, read the commands and saw that it removed too many things for my liking, some of them I would want to keep..
Q5.) Does the Stock Kernel support overclocking/Underclocking/Undervolting? (I am guessing not, being hopeful Interested in underclocking and undervolting.) Are there any drawbacks to using a Kernel like Siyah's in terms of battery life and stability? Does the Stock rom at least support underclocking by itself? On my Old galaxy mini it did..
Thank you, sorry for the long post or if the questions seem repeated (Spent loads of time searching!):laugh:
Anyone?
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Nimer.abdul said:
Q1.) If I root using that, then later if I want to restore my phone to TOTAL stock to keep warranty, will I be safe by using TriangleAway and then flashing Stock firmware (Of the same region) using Odin? Are these 2 steps enough? Some people have got that tiny red exclamation mark,something about a new bootloader.. has that issue been resolved?
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Yes you can do that. You can find many guides here. Some members have made video tutorials Gore's third too.
I never had any issue with triangle away.
Q2.) I have heard that OTA updates are not a good idea after rooting. However I want to use Kies to update my firmware, after rooting and using TriangleAway. Is this a problem?
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If you root then your phones binary counter will increase and phone will show in modified state. You will not be able to use ota upgrades. But I don't miss kies a bit because I got so much more with little secrifise. Also there are better options for backing up your phone then kies.
Q3.) I think we are getting a 4.1.2 update soon with premium suite .. around this month. Is it better to wait for that update before I root?
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If that's what you want. But there are many custom roms already have 4.1.2 and they are much better then stock rom for battery, speed and smoothness. I could never convince myself go back to stock rom after trying some of custom rooms with lots of additional features.
Q4.) If it is wise to root now, can somebody please link me to a guide that tells me what it is safe to remove from stock rom? I have downloaded a debloat tool from a guide, but I opened the .BAT file with a text editor, read the commands and saw that it removed too many things for my liking, some of them I would want to keep..
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You might want to search forum or YouTube for video tutorials. I learn that way.
Q5.) Does the Stock Kernel support overclocking/Underclocking/Undervolting? (I am guessing not, being hopeful Interested in underclocking and undervolting.) Are there any drawbacks to using a Kernel like Siyah's in terms of battery life and stability? Does the Stock rom at least support underclocking by itself? On my Old galaxy mini it did..
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Stock kernel do not support these. I use siyah and it's best in my opinion and experience.
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If you want to follow a tutorial then here it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715822
to unroot and get your guarantee back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613
Thank you for the reply.
rl421403 said:
Yes you can do that. You can find many guides here. Some members have made video tutorials Gore's third too.
I never had any issue with triangle away.
If you root then your phones binary counter will increase and phone will show in modified state. You will not be able to use ota upgrades. But I don't miss kies a bit because I got so much more with little secrifise. Also there are better options for backing up your phone then kies.
If that's what you want. But there are many custom roms already have 4.1.2 and they are much better then stock rom for battery, speed and smoothness. I could never convince myself go back to stock rom after trying some of custom rooms with lots of additional features.
You might want to search forum or YouTube for video tutorials. I learn that way.
Stock kernel do not support these. I use siyah and it's best in my opinion and experience.
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If you want to follow a tutorial then here it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715822
to unroot and get your guarantee back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710613
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This is the issue I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918667
Also I was asking about Update via Kies, not OTA.(And after I use TriangleAway) Thank you.
Nimer.abdul said:
This is the issue I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918667
Also I was asking about Update via Kies, not OTA.(And after I use TriangleAway) Thank you.
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I am not sure about this issue because I never faced this one. I purchased S3 last month and Isince then I have been flashing custom roms. I already tried 15-20 roms. Never had any issue.
All you had to do is completely follow instructions and make sure rom/mod/app is compatible with your phone model
Why do you want to update via Kies? I think Kies will only work if you keep your device pure. Also, you can update/flash official firmware with Odin/Mobile odin. That's what I do. Most of the people here do not use kies for upgrading firmware but they download stock samsung firmware from http://www.sammobile.com and flash it with Odin. It take 30 secs, as simple as that.
Thank you for your time.
I already know about Odin and Samfirmware, it's just that this is an expensive phone and don't want to use any unofficial software apart from Root.. for now.
There is no way to know unless you try it yourself. Nobody here can assure you that some process or rom or mod will definitely work on your phone.
This is kind of you-are-responsible-for-your-act forum.