Im somewhat tech savvy but im kinda stumped on this whole aosp thing. Im trying to use juice defender to save extra battery life but some of the better features are disabled because it says aosp isn't available. I'm currently running the I777 aokp rom and the siyah kernal but I don't know how to enable aosp, if its even available. I thought aokp was one of the better roms out there and I remember way back when aokp was pretty newish on the I777, it still had these features available, so im just wondering whatsup.
Thnx folks
Aosp is the stock android created by google, if you have seen cyanogen roms then you have seen aosp, of course cyanogenmod merges "his" own tweaks and features to improve stock aosp, now aokp is aosp plus cyanogenmod plus other features from other developers plus plus plus. Things are not EXACTLY as I explained but I'm trying to keep it simple, so, to answer your question, the aokp rom you're using is actually a heavily tweaked aosp rom. Get it?
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Don't use juice defender. It does not work for ****
crossmission said:
Aosp is the stock android created by google, if you have seen cyanogen roms then you have seen aosp, of course cyanogenmod merges "his" own tweaks and features to improve stock aosp, now aokp is aosp plus cyanogenmod plus other features from other developers plus plus plus. Things are not EXACTLY as I explained but I'm trying to keep it simple, so, to answer your question, the aokp rom you're using is actually a heavily tweaked aosp rom. Get it?
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Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
aspen1135 said:
Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
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You don't really understand what you're asking. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project, and it is the method by which Google makes the latest vanilla Android source code available to developers. AOKP is based on code taken from AOSP. What "features" are you asking about?
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Ok so then why do these features not work if ours are heavily tweaked. If anything it should allow us to do so right?
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Considering you are aware it is already tweaked, why do you want to install JuiceDefender so all it can do is consume more battery? None of those battery saving apps help they only consume more to run. Their only features are disabling the sync, data, wifi, bt. All features you can already disable easy enough when you are not using.
Juice defender worked well on gingerbread and earlier versions of android. It's not really needed any longer as the android system has come a long way in power savings and reliability.
Juice defender actually has some nice features like auto disable Wi-Fi based on GPS location, auto disable gps when not in use, and auto switch network modes based on coverage. I had it setup before so when I was home, wireless would stay on (for downloads and updates) and I usually had it plugged in at home so it wasn't a problem. I could leave my house without worrying about toggling Wi-Fi or GPS for draining additional battery and could come home to have it automatically on. Switching networks based on coverage not only improved battery life but also improved my data performance, as it cuts in and out a lot on the poor 4g coverage in my city so far. Can you guys answer my question a little more directly? If this aokp Rom isn't compatible, which Rom is most similar, with these capabilitys?
I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Can you guys answer my question a little more directly? If this aokp Rom isn't compatible, which Rom is most similar, with these capabilitys?
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What capabilities? We have been as direct as linguistically possible with our answers.
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I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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What features? What the hell are you even asking?
Did you not even read what I told you? I explained exactly what AOSP is, and it light of that it's pretty obvious that both CM9 and CM10 are AOSP-based roms.
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What capabilities? We have been as direct as linguistically possible with our answers.
What features? What the hell are you even asking?
Did you not even read what I told you? I explained exactly what AOSP is, and it light of that it's pretty obvious that both CM9 and CM10 are AOSP-based roms.
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
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I looked in the i777 index and under 'aosp roms' I saw cm9. Not cm10 but cm9. I'm going to give it a try and see if these extra features work.
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Don't know how else to explain what has been said to you... aosp != touchwiz. If it doesn't have touchwiz its aosp. And juice defender is pretty useless. Just try a ROM without it first and you will see you don't need JD
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
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Ah, I see. Sounds like the problem is with JuiceDefender having compatibility issues with JB. I used to use it with GB TouchWiz, but I haven't touched it since I went to ICS/JB.
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Ah, I see. Sounds like the problem is with JuiceDefender having compatibility issues with JB. I used to use it with GB TouchWiz, but I haven't touched it since I went to ICS/JB.
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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's really not needed anymore. I can get 4 hours screen on time and 24 hours of use and I don't ever kill an app, restart, and I have mail syncing and gps on. I suppose it's just personal preference or placebo affect, thinking you're saving more battery than you actually are with JD. At least with ics and jb. Gingerbread it worked well for me.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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So why don't you get off your high horse and explain it in a manner that an average user can understand? Jeez...some people.. I know I can't be the only one that doesn't know exactly what aosp is.
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So why don't you get off your high horse and explain it in a manner that an average user can understand? Jeez...some people.. I know I can't be the only one that doesn't know exactly what aosp is.
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Second post it was explained. Aosp is stock android. Android Open Source Project. Aokp is stock android customized. Android Open Kang Project. Aokp uses Aosp to make its ROMs. Cm also use Aosp.
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He wants to know which rom will enable the extra features of juice defender. He is saying that the app requires an AOSP rom to enable those features, but since AOKP technically is AOSP, it doesn't make sense as to why those extra juice defender features won't work. Unless, it's requiring a purely stock AOSP rom.
I personally have never used juice defender, so I have no idea.
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Bing bing bing, this guy gets it. I've tried multiple aosp roms including just plain cm9 and still had no luck, im beginning to think it's just an issue with juice defender.
Ps folks. you all dont have to be jackasses when someones asking for some clear clarification on something. We are all here to learn
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Second post it was explained. Aosp is stock android. Android Open Source Project. Aokp is stock android customized. Android Open Kang Project. Aokp uses Aosp to make its ROMs. Cm also use Aosp.
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I understood what aosp meant, but it was not the only factor in this post. My main question and concern was related to juice defender not working, and iv come to the conclusion that it hardly works on the majority of custom roms, aosp or not
aspen1135 said:
Bing bing bing, this guy gets it. I've tried multiple aosp roms including just plain cm9 and still had no luck, im beginning to think it's just an issue with juice defender.
Ps folks. you all dont have to be jackasses when someones asking for some clear clarification on something. We are all here to learn
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I understood what aosp meant, but it was not the only factor in this post. My main question and concern was related to juice defender not working, and iv come to the conclusion that it hardly works on the majority of custom roms, aosp or not
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I was not being a jackass, it was explained multiple times and you didn't seem to be able to comprehend that. And yeah your problem is juice defender. Stop using it.
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This is not a thread for "which one is better."
I've not found anywhere in the i777 forums a description of how the two AOSP roms relate in similarities and differences, something I believe would be a common question.
From my googling, it appears that AOKP has all of the same features as CM9, just with a different interface.
Those of you who know best: care to share your wisdom of other differences?
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
I tried them both, I'm staying with AOKP
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From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Great article!
Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
College kids nowadays, are so smart. Good for them.
Great read. Im leaning more towards AOKP. Been running Tasks rom for a few days and im loving it.
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
I've leaned more towards using AOKP, it's speedy, feature packed and more stable in comparison to the CM9 Nightlies. Until there's a stable release, I'm sticking with AOKP.
AOKP is really amazing, it's a great work put by people that care a lot about quality.
CM9 is breakthrough, it's the base pillar of several roms and it has really talented people contributing to it. Without CM support many devices wouldn't have AOSP ICS.
Both are great choices no matter which one you pick.
Fortunately we have great guys like atinm, codeworkx, Entropy and task (among others) that make this happen.
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Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
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I also had this need and came across this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601518
This was my first flashed ROM so have nothing to compare to other than stock Sammy Touchwiz'd ICS but it is great. Might just be what you're looking for.
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From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Excellent report, thanks for sharing bro
skblr said:
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
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x2.
Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
I also have used both and I was a huge supporter of CM. I like AOKP better. As it stands right now I think AOKP is more polished and has more features currently. When CM9 comes more along I'm sure it will be equally as good. I flashed CM9 the day before yesterday just to see what progress has been made. I see they merged the custom lockscreen stuff and some other things, but I still found there were some things in AOKP that I missed so I flashed right back to AOKP. The good thing I must say is that both are AOSP and can usually go between the two without wiping data. I went from AOKP, to CM9, back to AOKP without doing a data wipe (just wiped the caches) and everything worked fine
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From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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It's a good article but it's quite dated given the number of nightly updates since it was written. CM9 has come a long way in terms of features that have been added:
- Theme manager
- Profiles, which allow you to control features available in the power saver option
- Lock screen shortcut configuration
- Galaxy SII specific advanced features
- Performance options OC, governor, etc.
Right now, other than the weather on the notification bar, you can get pretty much get in CM9 the same features in AOKP.
One thing that AOKP doesn't have is the ability to update to the latest nightly through ROM Manager in a few (4) clicks. That's is a big plus if you are an update junkie.
In any case my recommendation is that you try them both. It's all a matter of personal choice.
projekt1 said:
Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
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It's all about kernel sources. The ICS kernel sources have not been released for the i777, so the AOKP team won't touch it.
This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but you kind of didn't answer my question in any way.
a) What's wrong with AOKP?
b) I know Paranoid is JB, that's why I mentioned it. Are you saying it's stock JB? Kinda confused on the wording here.
c) Obviously, you're a fan of CM10 (aka CMX). What makes it so good compared to the other two? I see the thread for it has more posts (and thus seems to be more popular), but why?
Again, I'm not trying to be difficult. Just hoping to get an answer without having to flash 3 different ROMs.
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
Rxpert said:
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
tehkingo said:
Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
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No problem. I would suggest trying them all, since there are differences between each of them.
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the attitude.
Does anyone know if Team Synergy will be making a rom for the Vzw Note 2??
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I loved Synergy on GS3, was my daily driver. Would love to see it here but I doubt it
I wish...
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
What is dsixdas???
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Just Googled it.... Now I want to build Roms..... Gonna have to try this.
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Team Synergy put out some sick tweaks for my old HTC devices (sprint). Haven't used them in over a year but would love to see some more action over here whether its "stock" based tweaks or not. They may even dabble in some AOSP. Not sure.
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As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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Oh my. A voice of reason!!!!
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As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
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Most of which are snake oil, like a lot of performance tweaks devs claim to put in.
I say we open up a donation thread so we can get Team Synergy on board!! Their roms are sooo bad ass!! LOL Just kidding guys! :silly:
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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As many as possible, it's called variety. I'm busy and I don't want to do the mods myself.... I like donating to devs to do it for me...that's why most of us are here.
Also one of the great things about Synergy for the GS3 was the nightly builds. Again, I didn't have to do the work myself, received nightly updates/tweaks and simply donated to compensate for their time and work.
Personally, I figure the more devs working on the Verizon Note 2 the better regardless of what they use as a base for their ROM.
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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I totally agree with you. I had the GS3 and ran pretty much every ROM available for it while I had it. Nothing against Team Synergy, but their ROM always had some type of issue or another. Which I thought was insane for a stock based ROM.
And then the nightlies started happening and like you said, things would break and then be fixed, etc. I finally just gave up and started running CleanROM and Beans. Both were more stable and to be honest, performed better.
I never got the lovefest for the Synergy ROM on the GS3, but that's just me.
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I also don't have the time to do this myself either. I work 50 odd hours a week and have two kiddos. I also have no idea what I am doing. I would love to learn more about all of this. If someone can put up a link for a good starting point to learn that would be awesome.
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You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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Nobody forces you to download nightlies. I do agree that at some point the nightlies can start doing more harm than good but it's up to the end user to know when it's time to get off the train. I've only ever had good experiences with devs who produce nightlies. If I felt like I was getting a service from nightlies, I donated, if not, I didn't. Simple as that.
Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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I haven't looked to see what other devs are saying, but the only thing I said was that nightlies for a zip rom are 100% pointless.
Source built roms are different.
adrynalyne said:
Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
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Maybe to you, but they were far from pointless to myself and many others.
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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and questions go to the questions section
Glebun said:
and questions go to the questions section
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And I missed that fundamental point lol
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BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Rooting on it's own will not brick, slow down or loose battery life etc, it's what you do with the phone after you root that can do this, things like overclocking will affect battery, undervolting and underclocking will affect performance, but what you can do after rooting is things like use faster fix to slightly increase gps fix time, you can block ads, you can modify any system file etc etc, you can essentially do anything.
Latest Nightly is a term used for the latest version of CyanogenMod, which is an aftermarket firmware (custom ROM) new versions are built on their servers every night hence the name Nightly.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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CM10.1 is very smooth and in my opinion even smoother compared to Stock TouchWiz. Just flash it and if you for some reason don`t like it, you can always go back to a Stock TouchWiz ROM. There are plenty to choose from here at XDA. Oh and don`t ask what`s the best ROM around here, just try them out yourself
Oh and if you deside to Root and to flash a ROM on your device then read every little detail on how to do it. I`ve seen plenty of cases here, where people screwed up their devices because they flashed wrong stuff on their phone.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Its considerably smoother! If CM10.1 is hot butter, then TouchWiz is cold syrup.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Theshawty said:
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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It is smooth but as theshawty had pointed out it's not as good as it could be due to Sammy.
If you want a mix of both worlds you would do better looking for a stable stock based Rom and then theming it to suit. There isn't much to gain from flashing cm atm. If you want the launcher just download nova, apex or halo as these are the same as stock Google launcher used in cm builds.
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Rooting itself does not do much difference unless you flash roms. I suggest you try Cyanogenmod, AOKP for starters. Then you can go with others like RootBox, PAC man ROm or ParanoidKangdroid which for me are the best there are. Other ROMs like Carbon and Liquidsmooth are pretty good too.
I suggest you download Goomanager first and browse between compatible Roms. Also learn how to do Nandroid backups and regular. Trust me, you're gonna need them.
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As mentioned in previous posts cyanogen based roms FOR S3 in my opinion are not as smooth as expected. If u install a custom samsung based rom and a good kernel, i find that they are as smooth or sometimes smoother than cyanogen. Also the latest full stock samsung roms and kernels are really smooth and battery friendly.
As u dont have an issue in rooting. u should try all roms n decide.
And rooting does have many benefits. Especially the audio mods will completely change the audio quality of your phone. ACID with boeffla sound control is amazing. Get good quality earphones also to experience this.
Hey everyone,
the idea of this thread is to see which ROMS are people using the most. Feel free to post your opinions, always with respect to others.
Greetings.
lKBZl said:
Hey everyone,
the idea of this thread is to see which ROMS are people using the most. Feel free to post your opinions, always with respect to others.
Greetings.
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Surely AOKP won't be the winner by a longshot.
The list should probably be condensed a bit. Like including both paranoid android rom's into the same category, maybe merging the ones that build from the CM10.1 source into a single category.
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The list should probably be condensed a bit. Like including both paranoid android rom's into the same category, maybe merging the ones that build from the CM10.1 source into a single category.
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At the beggining I just made an option for paranoid, but then I checked both threads and there were a couple of ppl using each one, so I though, why not separate them. In order to include the changes you said, I think it must be a moderator who does that, i'm not sure but I can't find how to edit the poll (never made one...). Thanks.
I was thinking of a poll to see one option you're missing is 'Stock Rom' Would be nice to also graph users that aren't using a custom rom and are instead just using google's official one.
And there should be a 'Other - please list your rom' option as a good chunk of people won't vote without 2 options if there not applicable to them so its going to be skewed for stats without them.
I think CleanROM should be included in the poll, as it's a quite popular ROM.
brGabriel said:
I think CleanROM should be included in the poll, as it's a quite popular ROM.
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In theory it was there, i'm not sure why it isn't. Totally failed doing my first poll lol. Any clue if I can edit the poll or it must be an admin?
I use Pac on my nexus 10 and also on my sgs2, because i think PA is very useful especially on the nexus, but it´s nut enough customisation, so the mixture between PA and AOKP is great.
So i only can advise you to give PACman a try
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In theory it was there, i'm not sure why it isn't. Totally failed doing my first poll lol. Any clue if I can edit the poll or it must be an admin?
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Think the admins/mods need to edit the poll hopefully they will be nice enough to do so as this poll would be worthwhile for all of us here with nexus 10's
I sent a non urgent report so the mods can see it and hopefully be nice enough to update the thread.
I use AOKP with KTManta... AOKP Milestone, official download.
updated to Kaos Droid's new ROM, so far seems good
MrRobinson's AOKP PUB with KTManta kernel here.
Carbon Nightly!!
I must say, I'm pretty stoked with 2nd place so far!!
Been testing different ROMs like Roobox, Tasker, Liquidsmooth, I am using Carbon for now. I like AOKP too will try Sentinel next. So many ROMs to try too much fun.
Don't forget kaos droid... Awesome rom and the dev is very willing to add custom features
I've tried nearly everyone on the list. But I always end up going back to the AOKP PUB builds. I fluctuate between the builds by Bigxie and Mr. Robinson - depending on who has a more recent build. No other ROM I've used has all the customization options I'm looking for (including my #1 must-have Tablet UI) as well as including the increased speed and fluidness. With that said, it's great they there's so many options for the device. It's one of the reason I love Nexus devices.
I liked pacrom but had to switch back to paranoid android because ps3 controller wouldn't connect to sixaxis
*edit ps3 controller now connecting since flashing the newest pacrom.
Just got my N10 a couple of days ago and I'm looking for a ROM. Which one of the AOKP custom roms are the best?
MartiniGM said:
Just got my N10 a couple of days ago and I'm looking for a ROM. Which one of the AOKP custom roms are the best?
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Start off with aokp pub build or task650 both are smooth but try them all and see which one is to your liking
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