Stock-based vs AOSP Roms (Comparison) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Hey all--
I'm about to pick up a note for my wife to use (buying it on craigslist).
Just wondering if people had thoughts on this issue re: this device:
Particularly with the S-pen, and the 'note' features, should I stick to Stock-based-ROMs, or does CM-10, etc... play nice with these things?
Thanks! Really interested in your opinions....(I'm usually an AOSP guy, but this is for my wife...)

It depends on if she is going to appreciate AOSP and learn enough about it to solve issues on her own. I had a frustrating experience when I rooted and put a custom launcher on my gf's Nook. I thought that having access to numerous free apps via the Play store would thrill her since nearly every app in the Nook world isn't free. Instead I got a bunch of gripes and complaints when little things didn't work... troubleshooting a device that wasn't mine for the sake of functionality she never used was no fun. She never DL'd anything!... Play or Nook store. She was happy just reading books, mags, and internet. I put that thing back to stock and we both couldn't be happier.
Some of the Spen features are lost on Cyanogen and AOSP ROMs. Do you think your wife would appreciate CM10 and its benefits against the lack of some basic Note features and stock ROM reliability? Are you prepared to flash nightlies on her phone every other day? I don't think CM10 is at a point where you can just flash it and forget it...

BlackZenith said:
It depends on if she is going to appreciate AOSP and learn enough about it to solve issues on her own. I had a frustrating experience when I rooted and put a custom launcher on my gf's Nook. I thought that having access to numerous free apps via the Play store would thrill her since nearly every app in the Nook world isn't free. Instead I got a bunch of gripes and complaints when little things didn't work... troubleshooting a device that wasn't mine for the sake of functionality she never used was no fun. She never DL'd anything!... Play or Nook store. She was happy just reading books, mags, and internet. I put that thing back to stock and we both couldn't be happier.
Some of the Spen features are lost on Cyanogen and AOSP ROMs. Do you think your wife would appreciate CM10 and its benefits against the lack of some basic Note features and stock ROM reliability? Are you prepared to flash nightlies on her phone every other day? I don't think CM10 is at a point where you can just flash it and forget it...
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This was exactly the sort of answer I was looking for.
Thanks!

One thing I do is use Papyrus (standard app) instead of S-Note (Samsung app) for taking notes. This way, when I switch between AOSP and TW ROMs, my note-taking doesn't suffer.
Other than that, I don't have too much problems switching between the types.

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Best Custom Rom Suited for Individual Needs

I could have sworn i saw a post on here asking "What's your fave Rom/ What Rom are you using" but i cant seem to find it anywhere. Regaurdless, if i get yelled at, i get yelled at.
Wanted to know your all's opinions on latest roms available. Maybe you can help me out for the best choice. This post is not to discriminate but rather to pick the best choice for my needs for the moment.
I use wifi alot
I stream movies alot
I am a FB addict
I take lots of vids and pics
I text and make lots of calls
I change widgets frequently
I use the browser alot
and yes i LOVE S VOICE!!
So with those things said, i am currently running the latest Team Perfection Rom and the only complaint i have is the freeze ups. Once it even froze while i was trying to call someone back. The Contacts froze. I like this rom alot and i am no stranger to the flashing/modding community, just a bit rusty. Which Rom would you all refer to me to get less lag (prefer none at all) or which changes should i make the the Team Perfection rom? Any responses would be amazing! Thank you in advance!:cyclops:
If you use the s-apps, and pen a lot, I would get a mostly stock rom, such as this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933
If not, getting the cm9 nighties will give a pretty unmatched experience.
howdy there, well the function of the s pen for me has become a need...just like the fact that I can snap shot and just draw/write on it...very cool, and all the stock ROM have this, but there are few of the custom ROMs that still keep the ics trend going, since the darkness I like within the theming, Black Star has this, and I use as my DD, there are the Official ICS, Pure & Odexed & Stock Rooted, Zipaligned, Deodexed...so on these are great stable and lag free imho. But most all the Custom ROMs are...so like you mentioned it will be your call.
those requirements you listed...are must like mine...but not FB...
I have a thread put together with all the goodies around our threads, see if anything you see grabs you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
if you have questions...I am not an expert, but just holler, there are lots of good, knowledgable peps around here....kk
graveghoul said:
I could have sworn i saw a post on here asking "What's your fave Rom/ What Rom are you using" but i cant seem to find it anywhere. Regaurdless, if i get yelled at, i get yelled at.
Wanted to know your all's opinions on latest roms available. Maybe you can help me out for the best choice. This post is not to discriminate but rather to pick the best choice for my needs for the moment.
I use wifi alot
I stream movies alot
I am a FB addict
I take lots of vids and pics
I text and make lots of calls
I change widgets frequently
I use the browser alot
and yes i LOVE S VOICE!!
So with those things said, i am currently running the latest Team Perfection Rom and the only complaint i have is the freeze ups. Once it even froze while i was trying to call someone back. The Contacts froze. I like this rom alot and i am no stranger to the flashing/modding community, just a bit rusty. Which Rom would you all refer to me to get less lag (prefer none at all) or which changes should i make the the Team Perfection rom? Any responses would be amazing! Thank you in advance!:cyclops:
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Samsung Apps Once on Custom Roms?

Hey guys, usually not many people care about getting any of the stock manufacturer apps back after going to custom rom, but in this case there are some apps and features that I really do not want to lose. Is there any way to get these to run (backing up the apps in Titanium is easy) after going to any of the upcoming stock JB-based roms? Apps that I am referring to in this cases are:
Samsung camera (REALLY don't want to lose this), WatchON (this one either), Samsung calendar widget, S Health, messaging app, the slew of features involving the gestures, finger hovering, eye tracking, voice commands, the high sensitivity setting for screen (for gloves), etc...
Can we get any of these back??
the gestures and air view, consider that a big no...
but the other things are apps and widgets, they might just straight up install and work or might take a little messing with to make them work
I'd love to get my hands on the stock Calendar app to install on my N7.
I really like the way it looks and functions.
What do you think the chances are that it will work?
Can somebody pull the apk out for me?
dansan382 said:
the gestures and air view, consider that a big no...
but the other things are apps and widgets, they might just straight up install and work or might take a little messing with to make them work
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don't flame me, i haven't owned my first android for a week yet...
so once we root the S4, we lose all of those S4 specific items such as the camera, the Air view, Air gesture, etc???
wouldn't those all be part of the ROM we are using to root? i am only asking because, if these ROMs are device specific, why wouldn't they be included after a root?
ps, if my description and/or terms are way out of whack, i apologize... again, this is my first go around and i have been on this forum for the better part of a week trying to understand EVERYTHING related to the rooting process before actually diving into it...
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so once we root the S4, we lose all of those S4 specific items such as the camera, the Air view, Air gesture, etc???
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No, you won't lose them unless you flash a debloated ROM, or an AOSP-style ROM.
No. Not once you root. If you use an AOSP based rom, you will not be able to use apps or widgets that require the TouchWiz framework. If you use a TW based rom, they are still available for use without issue.
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TH3 ST1G said:
don't flame me, i haven't owned my first android for a week yet...
so once we root the S4, we lose all of those S4 specific items such as the camera, the Air view, Air gesture, etc???
wouldn't those all be part of the ROM we are using to root? i am only asking because, if these ROMs are device specific, why wouldn't they be included after a root?
ps, if my description and/or terms are way out of whack, i apologize... again, this is my first go around and i have been on this forum for the better part of a week trying to understand EVERYTHING related to the rooting process before actually diving into it...
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Eh no problem, at least you read before asking lol. Rooting won't disable those features, but the concern is that installing roms that aren't touchwiz based ,I.e. based on the stock Rom, will do so. Roms based on android open source (AOSP, cm and many others) will likely not have most of the touchwiz enhancements, but hopefully we can still use watchON because its basically the only feature I use lol.
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Thank you sir, now i will search for a TW rom
yup. My question is will there ever be an AOSP ROM that supports all the Samsung features. At least the hover and air view. My friend told me its because the Samsung source code is unavailable but there are people working on getting it to work.
sharpknight said:
yup. My question is will there ever be an AOSP ROM that supports all the Samsung features. At least the hover and air view. My friend told me its because the Samsung source code is unavailable but there are people working on getting it to work.
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Simple answer is no. Also those things are closed sourced
Wayne Tech Nexus
Why not try a different approach?
Okay, hear me out before you just say 'no' to this.
There is a really popular TouchWiz (Samsung, in essence) ROM right now called HyperDrive. It's currently on release 5.7 and it keeps ALL of your phone's stock functionality, plus it adds even more customization options and tweaks! It runs very smoothly and feels a lot better than stock, lag-wise.
However, consider tacking on third-party launcher. Right now, I'm running HyperDrive 5.7, and I'm running Nova Launcher on top, and I have everything looking like stock JB. However, even with all of the stock JB looks, I've still got all of the samsung apps fully working, since it's still a TW ROM. I've even got the Nexus 4's Software Buttons running, and it looks/feels really cool.
Take it from a fan of both stock JB's look and feel, and TouchWiz's custom capabilities and controls.

Getting the YP-G70

Today or within the next few days, I will be replacing my (pathetic) YP-GI1 for the YP-G70. A charging issue messed up my device and the screen does not detect half of my touches. I have found great deals on Amazon of refurbished models running for 119 USD and was wondering if I should stick with the refurbished model or splurge for a new one. If any owners of this device have information and pros/cons, it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers, 64kb.
64kb said:
Today or within the next few days, I will be replacing my (pathetic) YP-GI1 for the YP-G70. A charging issue messed up my device and the screen does not detect half of my touches. I have found great deals on Amazon of refurbished models running for 119 USD and was wondering if I should stick with the refurbished model or splurge for a new one. If any owners of this device have information and pros/cons, it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers, 64kb.
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Afaik, you can't get a YP-G70 "new" anymore but hey if you find a place post links....
I found a good refurbished deal and can get it tomorrow; I'm very tempted to install a custom ROM but kind of like Samsung's firmware. Should I keep it how it is, or use an up-to-date version of Android?
64kb said:
I found a good refurbished deal and can get it tomorrow; I'm very tempted to install a custom ROM but kind of like Samsung's firmware. Should I keep it how it is, or use an up-to-date version of Android?
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Go for 4.2, that has everything working apart from the fact you have to use a different camera app.
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joemhewitt said:
Go for 4.2, that has everything working apart from the fact you have to use a different camera app.
Sent from my zx spectrum
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Thanks, I've managed to soft brick my device within 2 hours of receiving it, so while the recovery downloads I'll check it out.
EDIT: The recovery was successful so now I can start flashing a custom recovery.
I've been installing custom ROM's on my Galaxy S for years, just got the SIII and have had trouble with it. Now I'm moving on to my son's Galaxy Player 5. It took a bit of working, but I finally got to play with a couple ROM's on it.
We got his from Walmart for $139, haven't been able to find a better price out there. I am curious as to why they haven't developed a replacement for this. It definitely has a market out there! I don't want my son having a phone yet, and a tablet is too big. Someone NEEDS to put a dent in Apples Ipod Touch market, but Samsung seems to have abandoned this en devour.
Anyway, I am looking for what y'all think is the best ROM opportunity for the 5.0. The CM10.2 is fine, but has just about as much bloatware as Samsung. Tried Team Remics, but less and less support for this one, and it is crashing the keyboard. How is PACMAN?
Not very many choices for a good quality ROM. Is it easy to make one? Where would I start?
Thanks!
Jeff
jeffsasse said:
I've been installing custom ROM's on my Galaxy S for years, just got the SIII and have had trouble with it. Now I'm moving on to my son's Galaxy Player 5. It took a bit of working, but I finally got to play with a couple ROM's on it.
We got his from Walmart for $139, haven't been able to find a better price out there. I am curious as to why they haven't developed a replacement for this. It definitely has a market out there! I don't want my son having a phone yet, and a tablet is too big. Someone NEEDS to put a dent in Apples Ipod Touch market, but Samsung seems to have abandoned this en devour.
Anyway, I am looking for what y'all think is the best ROM opportunity for the 5.0. The CM10.2 is fine, but has just about as much bloatware as Samsung. Tried Team Remics, but less and less support for this one, and it is crashing the keyboard. How is PACMAN?
Not very many choices for a good quality ROM. Is it easy to make one? Where would I start?
Thanks!
Jeff
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I'm glad you've asked this question, and although I only got mine earlier this week I can give you some of my personal opinions on custom ROMs. I recommend sticking to stock 4.2 or 4.3. This includes PAC, CM 10.2, SlimBean, to name a few. PAC and SlimBean are very customisable while CM 10.2 is lightweight. I currently use SlimBean because of its options for customisation but CM 10.2 and PAC are also very good ROMs.
Anyway, I am looking for what y'all think is the best ROM opportunity for the 5.0. The CM10.2 is fine, but has just about as much bloatware as Samsung. Tried Team Remics, but less and less support for this one, and it is crashing the keyboard. How is PACMAN?
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PAC is very customisable. You can change almost everything in the ROM, but be prepared for some bloatware. If you have the knowledge of uninstalling or disabling system apps this should not be as much of a problem. If you like to customise your device, this is (in my opinion) the first choice.
Another awesome alternative to PAC is SlimBean. Like I stated earlier, I currently run this on my phone. It isn't as bloated as PAC and includes Slimsizer which lets you uninstall system apps. It's my personal favourite.
Not very many choices for a good quality ROM. Is it easy to make one? Where would I start?
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This is mainly because the Galaxy Player 5.0 is an old device and not many [developers] have it. If you wish to make your own, it will take a fair amount of experience to do. You can start by porting a ROM from a similar device (such as the Galaxy S) to this device to get a feel for basic ROM development. Once you feel ready, and you have hours of time and at least 100 GB of storage available, you can build a ROM from source. Building from source means you have control over what apps are included in the ROM, so you can make a lightweight, fast distribution.
For now, I recommend sticking to Jelly Bean, but that is just my preference.
Hope I helped with something!
Cheers, 64kb

[Q] Any rom 4.0 (or higher) that isn't seriously broken?

As far as I can see, there really isn't any rom out there that will give you Android 4.0 or higher, and that still lets you use the video cam. I'm not too big on recording but I still consider it to be a very integral part of a phone, so of course I don't want to omit on that feature.
Now, ICS has been out for quite some time and the official Android iterations have already moved far ahead, but the latest stable release I can find for Atrix seems to be CM 7. Android 2.3.7. And that was in June 2012. Seems like stone age. Is it really this hopeless or am I missing something?
Lots of apps require at least 4.0 so being stuck on 2.3 feels really frustrating. Any tips on functional roms that aren't missing too many important features?
Wow, after the huge rage over Moto deciding to leave the Atrix behind and all the dozens of threads about that, there are still questions like this?
ravilov said:
Wow, after the huge rage over Moto deciding to leave the Atrix behind and all the dozens of threads about that, there are still questions like this?
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I started using smart phones two years ago. It took me quite awhile to discover the Atrix, so you could say I missed out on that outrage. I just bought a used Atrix and had hopes of updating it to at least 4.0 but it seems difficult to achieve, despite that a long time has passed. Can it really be that hard to get the recording to work?
Yes, it actually can. Reason being non-existent drivers for proprietary hardware. Sadly this device has been discontinued, despite its great hardware potential, and there is and will be no support for it past GB. So we're left with having to "invent", figure out and piece together stuff on our own.
It's all explained in great detail in many other threads.
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Yes, it actually can. Reason being non-existent drivers for proprietary hardware. Sadly this device has been discontinued, despite its great hardware potential, and there is and will be no support for it past GB. So we're left with having to "invent", figure out and piece together stuff on our own.
It's all explained in great detail in many other threads.
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Okay, I can buy that, makes sense.
Well, I've managed to find at least some roms at 4.0 and above, so I will try out the most promising ones, starting with AvatarRom and AtrICS. Functionality over "better stats" and all that. And then move on from there. Taking photos and recording is something I do on a regularing basis so it's vital that those parts actually work as intended, other parts I might overlook easier.
Daige said:
Okay, I can buy that, makes sense.
Well, I've managed to find at least some roms at 4.0 and above, so I will try out the most promising ones, starting with AvatarRom and AtrICS. Functionality over "better stats" and all that. And then move on from there. Taking photos and recording is something I do on a regularing basis so it's vital that those parts actually work as intended, other parts I might overlook easier.
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AtrICS yes, Avatar no due to their servers being jacked up and the ROM not available (disregard if they actually did get that ROM back up). Krystian's CM9 and Epinter's CM10.1 are your heavy hitters that really are worth looking into for a 4.0 and up experience.
If you want the video and picture quality, you can use the Alpha stage ROMs suggested above, otherwise best advice is stay on GB until more kernel work is done.
Per the first complaint (see thread name), doing this thing called research would have told you what @ravilov mentioned. You say you got into smartphones 2 yrs ago. The Motorola ICS debacle happened Sept 29th-ish, 2012. Thats within 2 yrs, and that was a big backlash they suffered.
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palmbeach05 said:
AtrICS yes, Avatar no due to their servers being jacked up and the ROM not available (disregard if they actually did get that ROM back up). Krystian's CM9 and Epinter's CM10.1 are your heavy hitters that really are worth looking into for a 4.0 and up experience.
If you want the video and picture quality, you can use the Alpha stage ROMs suggested above, otherwise best advice is stay on GB until more kernel work is done.
Per the first complaint (see thread name), doing this thing called research would have told you what @ravilov mentioned. You say you got into smartphones 2 yrs ago. The Motorola ICS debacle happened Sept 29th-ish, 2012. Thats within 2 yrs, and that was a big backlash they suffered.
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I actually found the AvatarRom, albeit not on their homepage but linked from the forum to some other download source. However, that rom didn't work out very well for me. AtrICS seemed complicated due to me not understanding the whole "vendor" thing they mentioned, so I decided to skip that one entirely. After trying out several roms I went back to CM 7.2 since that at least made the phone function quite good (except one app that seems to have a model specific bug in it).
I'll take a look att Krystian's alternative, whatever it's called. Epinter's seemed to have camera issues?
About "getting into smartphones two years ago": At that time, I nearly hated smartphones, which is why I didn't read very much about them (and therefore, I missed that "why no ICS?"-rage). Just because something "big" happens doesn't mean everyone will know about it. Yes, it's okay to ask me which rock I've been sleeping under. However, I can't point out the rock now, I've forgotten where it was.
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I actually found the AvatarRom, albeit not on their homepage but linked from the forum to some other download source. However, that rom didn't work out very well for me. AtrICS seemed complicated due to me not understanding the whole "vendor" thing they mentioned, so I decided to skip that one entirely. After trying out several roms I went back to CM 7.2 since that at least made the phone function quite good (except one app that seems to have a model specific bug in it).
I'll take a look att Krystian's alternative, whatever it's called. Epinter's seemed to have camera issues?
About "getting into smartphones two years ago": At that time, I nearly hated smartphones, which is why I didn't read very much about them (and therefore, I missed that "why no ICS?"-rage). Just because something "big" happens doesn't mean everyone will know about it. Yes, it's okay to ask me which rock I've been sleeping under. However, I can't point out the rock now, I've forgotten where it was.
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Really? now that is interesting. I wonder if they just restored the link and didn't update their page. idk, ppl have been having issues with the creators of Avatar ROM for weeks now about getting their stuff in order. AtrICS isn't hard to understand. Flash main ROM, then flash Vendor. Its like any CM ROM. Flash main ROM, then flash Gapps. Same concept. CM7.2 (GB) is going to give you the most stability and fully functioning ROM for this device. until the 3.1.10 kernel is given the Beta status, all 4.0 and up ROMs are considered Alpha stage if they use said kernel.
Krystian's CM9 is 4.0.4 running on the 3.1.10 kernel. Epinter's is 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 running the same. all 4.0 and up ROMs will have camera issues due to the need for updated drivers. drivers we don't have b/c Moto refuses (not worth fighting for anymore) to release them.
The ICS mess happened a yr ago. but yes, I do see your point. for example, these galaxys that keep coming out. I see news about them, but I don't go looking at them or reading the news about them.
AtrIcs is somewhat a stable rom with just few issues like average battery timing and sometimes lag in screen lock.Only thing i love about AtrIcs is stock look of moto . Currently i am on Epinter's Cm 10.1 it's also worth trying especially with motoblur theme from play store it's a treat to have Atrix on stock moto look with jb.

Are all custom roms slowly dying?

I notice quite a lot of rom threads are being closed...
only a few are being updates while lots were lasted update near the beginning of the month...
Lol.. There are too many roms already and almost all of them are very stable. So why do we need nightly/weekly updates if we have something like pure nexus or chroma running solid? Custom roms will live forever especially for nexus devices.
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Another one was added today. I'm patiently waiting to see if pure nexus appears with cmte. Its in the works.I hear
No end in sight! This is XDA ftw!
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
Soulfly3 said:
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/42v96a/cataclysm_threads_closed_by_mods/
The community legit doesn't deserve for him to continue.
His threads would literally make me sick the way ppl treated him. The way they DEMANDED alterations as opposed to asking. The way they asked over and over, despite his firm NO.
I'm gonna miss the hell out of his ROMs. The best. If some major changes happen, maybe Ill move to Pure Nexus, but for now... and a long while... I think the latest Cata mod will be on my phone.
This community truly sucks, sometimes
This has definitely been true for non-Nexus phones. I was big into LG phones, I had the G2, G3, and G4 (all on Verizon). The G2 had tons of development, both stock and AOSP ROMs, and the G3 was similar but noticeably less. The G4 has been non-existent. I remember the days when virtually all phones were rooted and unlocked by devs, with lots of custom ROMs, but this seems to be going away very quickly. Now it's likely if you buy a non-Nexus device, it won't get root at all, let alone custom ROMs.
Looking at the 6P development, I see what you're talking about. Lots of ROMs that started when the phone came out have ceased getting updates, and you only have a handful of solid ROMs to choose from.
I wouldn't be surprised if custom roms are a dying breed. IMHO part of it is that Android is slowly moving towards getting the basic feature set and UI tweaks that people want, and more manufacturers are trimming down their bloated UI's (some exceptions obv, unnamed). But also --- this may sound cynical, but just from my own observation: Many of these enthusiast-worked/powered/funded projects are far too often met with self-entitled users (in the very literal sense of the word) who think their use of the rom/software/art/w/e entitles them to complain endlessly about every little thing and every minute lack of an update (or desired/demanded feature) for what is usually a free or donationware product. Not to mention the people who are too careless/hasty to follow instructions and end up bricking their devices, only to blame the devs and spew a bunch of vitriol. I don't blame anyone who quits at all.
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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That's one breathe taking letter! Wish him the best and this Developer will be missed by XDA...
I love custom ROMs!!! I remember when I unlocked my first smart phone the first evo and I found the perfect stable ROM for it...now every time I get a new phone I find myself searching for a ROM I think it makes whatever handset you're using perfect. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to develop
the past roms I used, have not closed down.. Cataclysm was the second rom I used and liked...
I try not to use any roms that are CM based.. lol.. not sure why... I like the AOSP based roms better...
XDA has been going downhill for years now. Seen some amazing devs and funny members just up and leave over the years for this very reason.
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Every ROM will meet its end some time... Beanstalk disappeared. Avatar halted. AOKP is no longer active. ParanoidAndroid and PACman had gone big in form but small in functionality and usefulness. Even CM, with Google incorporating more and more changes into each new Android version and limiting features these ROMs can touch, might die out someday.
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Yeah some people here do not understand devs do this in there free time, for fun theycowe you nothing and you are very privileged to be getting such incredible free software. This upsets a lot if devs and makes them leave the community.
I stopped publishing my own approach of a ROM after I got rid of my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and moved on to Nexus devices. I'm happy with a customised Stock based ROM which suits me well. I'm not sure if anybody else would be interested in it since the Nexus forums offer a great number of custom ROMs, some of which are filled with extra stuff. I can somehow understand the guys who stop publishing their work. I never asked for donations, in fact I don't have a PayPal account linked to my profile Maintaining a ROM is a huge effort, especially if you're on your own and not part of a team.
ROMs are no longer needed plain and simple. Back in the hay days of ROMs, Galaxy S2 and 3, HTC EVO, ROMs were a necessity considering how badly optimized phones were back then.. running great software with horrible specs. Developers made the phone a lot better... I still remember the days of running Viper ROM on my samsung epic on the Sprint network.. those were the days.
Fast forward today I'm going on two years without flashing a ROM and reality is I see no need for it.
I pose a question to the great Nexus community, what's the purpose of flashing ROMs when the device runs perfect out the box?
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Root is a must for me since it allows you to get rid of some unwanted Google Apps (eg Google+, Google Play Games etc), use a Adblocker and special Apps like eg Titanium Backup or LMT
Custom roms, with the exception of a select few, have always been highly overrated imo. Most of them take software that is already created, debloat it (which we can do ourselves) and add some features that anyone can get through xposed, etc.
I used to always laugh when people would jump in a rom thread with outrageous claims like their battery life doubled, it's 100x smoother than stock, etc. Placebo effect runs high on custom roms imo.
With that being said, I've flashed just as many roms as most of you. I still see the value in some of them.
But as other people have said, it's just not as necessary anymore. As long as you can root, you can debloat, add xposed if you wanted, etc.
Doesn't seem to make as big of a difference as before.
Yeah it's not how it used to be and that probably for the better, most anything you could want can be done through Xposed and a custom kernel. While most custom roms are more stable than they were in the early days(seems to have more to do with a more stable aosp), there isn't much incentive and there are often still bugs. It's not because devs are bad at what they do, but building a stable rom requires a team of people and testing environments that people just don't have at home. Early in the days of windows mobile and Android roms were very poorly optimised out of the box, but it'd not really like that anymore.
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