x demo 3d evo issues - HTC EVO 3D

I bought a evo 3d back in the summer, it is running the generic gingerbread. Up until now it has been fine. Recently most apps keep shutting down (force stop) it won’t even display the weather app on home page anymore! It won’t update to ice-cream sandwich through ‘software updates’.
I called htc and gave them my imei and serial etc, they told me that it is an x demo and that I shouldn’t have it, they explained that the problems I am experiencing are to be expected as the device in not as sufficient as the retail models. I find this hard to believe and am looking for some truth hence I have joined this forum.
I guess I am looking to see if I can update it to the above mentioned or even jelly bean.
I am trying to update it to ic sandwich to fix my issues, however I can’t get a copy of the file ‘Temp Root File – RW EVO 3D’ as it appears to have been removed from every link on Google.
I have searched the whole site and cannot find any similar posts, I do hope as a noob that I do not offend or annoy any one.

swaggansway said:
I bought a evo 3d back in the summer, it is running the generic gingerbread. Up until now it has been fine. Recently most apps keep shutting down (force stop) it won’t even display the weather app on home page anymore! It won’t update to ice-cream sandwich through ‘software updates’.
I called htc and gave them my imei and serial etc, they told me that it is an x demo and that I shouldn’t have it, they explained that the problems I am experiencing are to be expected as the device in not as sufficient as the retail models. I find this hard to believe and am looking for some truth hence I have joined this forum.
I guess I am looking to see if I can update it to the above mentioned or even jelly bean.
I am trying to update it to ic sandwich to fix my issues, however I can’t get a copy of the file ‘Temp Root File – RW EVO 3D’ as it appears to have been removed from every link on Google.
I have searched the whole site and cannot find any similar posts, I do hope as a noob that I do not offend or annoy any one.
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First Off..., Tut Tut ... Im just kidding Welcome to the fold...
Second off, hmmm how did you manage to get hold of it?
Is it GSM or CDMA? (Hope you can tell me , GSM is normally the worldwide edition, CDMA is usually states version, ie Sprint Etc)

Thank u for the friendly welcome,
I paid 200 pounds (british), it had never been turned on before and I had no idea it was a demo
I don't know which it is, can you advise me if a way of testing?
( GSM or CDMA)
Guessing the latter

swaggansway said:
Thank u for the friendly welcome,
I paid 200 pounds (british), it had never been turned on before and I had no idea it was a demo
I don't know which it is, can you advise me if a way of testing?
( GSM or CDMA)
Guessing the latter
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If it has sim card slot its GSM if not its cdma.
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pedja1 said:
If it has sim card slot its GSM if not its cdma.
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Yes it has a sim card slot. Didn't know you could get phones with no sim slot...
Anyway, back to original issue, can I upgrade the software?

Use an RUU specifically for your region
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。

dastin1015 said:
Use an RUU specifically for your region
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Urm, without being rude,, this makes no sence to be (pardon the pun), obviously I have Googled it
However i am still non the wiser
I Guess I need an idiots guide here, but bare with me I am a quick learner!
Apologies if I bore you all, think of this as a clange

Try this. Make sure you use the correct RUU. I would read through the thread to be sure. Ask if you need to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208485
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[Q] Noob wanting to Flash Evo 3d On MetroPcs

I see there are threads about flashing evo's to Metro PCS but i was wondering if they are all work the same for EVO 3D. I want an step by step instruction on how to flash it to Metro PCS with everything working
Thanks to everyone!
someone? plz reply
I doubt you will be able to do this until we get root.
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Anita189 said:
someone? plz reply
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EVO 3d + metropcs activation card + microwave = EVO 3d on metropcs
3D > iClone
I have already seen it done it to cricket service. thats why i am asking. I saw a thread on how to do it on cricket. but i have no cricket service here in my area oh well. Thanks if you find anyother info please keep me updated.
Anita189 said:
I see there are threads about flashing evo's to Metro PCS but i was wondering if they are all work the same for EVO 3D. I want an step by step instruction on how to flash it to Metro PCS with everything working
Thanks to everyone!
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I usually don't reply to these types of threads, this time I just couldn't resist.
"I see there are threads about flashing evo's to Metro PCS but i was wondering if they are all work the same for EVO 3D" Simple question, are they the same phone? no. Search, read, comprehend, learn. Root is required to do many things such as flashing to another carrier. If you don't know this then I really don't think you should be flashing anything in the first place. You are the type that will fry their phone due to ignorance and laziness and then try and get Sprint to give you a new one or come on here complaining.
"I want an step by step instruction on how to flash it to Metro PCS with everything working "
You start with "I want" and then end with a smiley like that makes everything ok. Seriously, if you want, do it yourself. Plenty of people on here, myself included, are willing to help. I can't think of one of them, myself included, that enjoys being commanded into what one individual wants.
To sum it up, no you can't. While you're waiting though, may I suggest some light reading.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacks/200-dummies-guide-android-terminology-lingo.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
Search, read all the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
This forum is built on the premise of community, not any one person can know everything. Therefore with everyone doing their part to educate themselves, using that knowledge to enlighten others, and the brilliant efforts of our resident developers, we are able to derive much greater performance and enjoyment from our digital toys. If you are unwilling to do your part and educate yourself then I suggest you just walk away.
welcome to the waiting game.
i check these forums every day waiting for permanent root so I can try tinkering with it.
once we have permanent root I can buy an Evo 3D and my first steps will be to test out all the qpst and epst settings from the Evo to see if they work and keep trying different things until I get it working or (more likely) someone on here will.
once there is root i will approach the guy who did the best job getting all the features working on the Evo 4G on MetroPCS (bloodykiller86 i think is his screen name) but until we have permanent root = no dice.
so welcome. wait and be patient.
Max_Pain said:
welcome to the waiting game.
i check these forums every day waiting for permanent root so I can try tinkering with it.
once we have permanent root I can buy an Evo 3D and my first steps will be to test out all the qpst and epst settings from the Evo to see if they work and keep trying different things until I get it working or (more likely) someone on here will.
once there is root i will approach the guy who did the best job getting all the features working on the Evo 4G on MetroPCS (bloodykiller86 i think is his screen name) but until we have permanent root = no dice.
so welcome. wait and be patient.
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Thanks for the info bro I am looking for some people who do these kinds of things so i pay them to do it. I was just researching if they are any. I dont want to get scammed. Keep me updated Thanks alot.
ausch30 said:
I usually don't reply to these types of threads, this time I just couldn't resist.
"I see there are threads about flashing evo's to Metro PCS but i was wondering if they are all work the same for EVO 3D" Simple question, are they the same phone? no. Search, read, comprehend, learn. Root is required to do many things such as flashing to another carrier. If you don't know this then I really don't think you should be flashing anything in the first place. You are the type that will fry their phone due to ignorance and laziness and then try and get Sprint to give you a new one or come on here complaining.
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WTF???? seriously dude....i messed up my first evo when i was trying to flash it boost mobile, i went and bought another one and i was more careful next time till i finally got it working 100%
why do u care if he goes and asks sprint for another phone???
is the money coming out of your pocket??? we are all trying to learn here man. yes we are all ignorant when we dont know something but thats why we try so we can learn. not to get some1 who is a senior member of a forum to call us a bunch of names....u r a developer??? well nice im happy for you, i wish i was as smart as you....but you dont have to be a smart ass to people.
i seriously hate when some1 asks something and some1 who knows the answer starts been a smart ass.....anyways YES you can flash the evo 3d to metro pcs, but talk and text only. i tried entering the profiles in qpst but it didnt work, i tried changin the ppp and mip settings but it didnt work. the settings stick which means you dont need root to change all the profile usernames n pass.
like i said in my regular evo i didnt even need root and the phone would get text/talk and web just by changing the mip n ppp settings. from what i know metro doesnt use proxies anymore......but anyways if you need help with talk n text let me know i can probably help you
you should buy cdma ws.... so you dont have to mess with all those methods to get msl code, with WS all u do is hit read n ur done, its worth the 99 bucks
oscarh24 said:
why do u care if he goes and asks sprint for another phone???
is the money coming out of your pocket???
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In a way, yes. As any company finds it less profitable to do things a certain way, they end up reducing perks and/or raising prices.
oscarh24 said:
we are all trying to learn here man. yes we are all ignorant when we dont know something but thats why we try so we can learn.
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That is really all I suggested, the search, read, comprehend, and learn. Not go around demanding for info to be handed to you.
oscarh24 said:
not to get some1 who is a senior member of a forum to call us a bunch of names....u r a developer??? well nice im happy for you, i wish i was as smart as you....but you dont have to be a smart ass to people.
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I don't believe anywhere in my previous post did I call anyone any names, I don't do that. I am not a developer, there are far smarter people on here than me. What I do though is try and learn as much about this stuff as I can so I can help myself and others. If I do have a question, I ask, but is not without extensive searching on the matter first. In many cases just reading the stickies will answer most question people might have.
My tone may have been a bit harsh (I had had about a 12 pack and I'm attempting to quit smoking so that will do it). I still stand be my previous post though, search, read, comprehend, learn. If you still can't find your answer, then by all means ask, don't demand.
You can flash without root if u have the correct parameters, i have mine flashed onto reliance cdma in India and it works very well and root isnt required
ausch30 said:
In a way, yes. As any company finds it less profitable to do things a certain way, they end up reducing perks and/or raising prices.
That is really all I suggested, the search, read, comprehend, and learn. Not go around demanding for info to be handed to you.
I don't believe anywhere in my previous post did I call anyone any names, I don't do that. I am not a developer, there are far smarter people on here than me. What I do though is try and learn as much about this stuff as I can so I can help myself and others. If I do have a question, I ask, but is not without extensive searching on the matter first. In many cases just reading the stickies will answer most question people might have.
My tone may have been a bit harsh (I had had about a 12 pack and I'm attempting to quit smoking so that will do it). I still stand be my previous post though, search, read, comprehend, learn. If you still can't find your answer, then by all means ask, don't demand.
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is okay. Dont fight. I dont want any fights. Well thank you for all the information. I been getting different information on the site thats why i asked. Some people are saying that i dont need to boot in order to flash it. So i was wondering if thats true?
Okay sure will contact you
If you're interested in getting it flashed to Metro send me a PM. I know someone that can get it done.
charnsingh_online said:
You can flash without root if u have the correct parameters, i have mine flashed onto reliance cdma in India and it works very well and root isnt required
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Hi Charan,
Do you have any site or any details on how to flash Evo 3d to Reliance CDMA since i am planning to get one. Also does the phone is required to have a clean ESN?
Apart from these i have never used CDMA in India. Can you tell me if Reliance has good internet plans for CDMA?
your help is highly appreciated
Thanks,
Hitesh
Just use the methods for ALL other HTC ANDROID phones to metro/cricket.. Thereis nothing that needs to be done that NEEDS root just get the metro info (your mobile number AND MSID) and have metro add the esn on their network. The esn does NOT need to be clean either that ONLY matters on sprint networks... After u get the info needed ##data# and put the info in. This w ill give u voice/data/sms. Mms may work the same as well (apn backup and restore) and delete the old apns and add a proper one.
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xTONEx said:
Just use the methods for ALL other HTC ANDROID phones to metro/cricket.. Thereis nothing that needs to be done that NEEDS root just get the metro info (your mobile number AND MSID) and have metro add the esn on their network. The esn does NOT need to be clean either that ONLY matters on sprint networks... After u get the info needed ##data# and put the info in. This w ill give u voice/data/sms. Mms may work the same as well (apn backup and restore) and delete the old apns and add a proper one.
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I already have a metropcs number and I have the MSID and all those numbers saved from when I put my OG Evo 4G on metro. I also have BloodyKiller86's conditioning guide for the OG Evo. you think following those instructions I could get the Evo 3D working after I add the ESN to their database?
lastly, do you think the APN I used back then for the OG Evo would work on the Evo 3D as well?
can someone please post a guide on how to flash to metro???
Go in the Evo 4G forums here and search for "metropcs conditioning guide" by bloodykiller86. You still need someone to add the esn to metro's database first, no way around it.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D on the MetroPCS 1x network...
EDIT: by the way, until now there is no way (that I know of) to get MMS to work...however, if both people have Evo 3D, TwinPic does send 2D and 3D images over internet so it works just fine over MetroPCS' network. that's how my wife and I share images right now.
I dont understand!
Max_Pain said:
Go in the Evo 4G forums here and search for "metropcs conditioning guide" by bloodykiller86. You still need someone to add the esn to metro's database first, no way around it.
Sent from my HTC Evo 3D on the MetroPCS 1x network...
EDIT: by the way, until now there is no way (that I know of) to get MMS to work...however, if both people have Evo 3D, TwinPic does send 2D and 3D images over internet so it works just fine over MetroPCS' network. that's how my wife and I share images right now.
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Does it have to be the bloodykiller86 one? You need to root the evo and i dont know how to root a 3d! I'll PM you.
xTONEx said:
Just use the methods for ALL other HTC ANDROID phones to metro/cricket.. Thereis nothing that needs to be done that NEEDS root just get the metro info (your mobile number AND MSID) and have metro add the esn on their network. The esn does NOT need to be clean either that ONLY matters on sprint networks... After u get the info needed ##data# and put the info in. This w ill give u voice/data/sms. Mms may work the same as well (apn backup and restore) and delete the old apns and add a proper one.
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Could you explain this to me more? So i just follow a tutorial that covers all HTC phones? Do I follow it exactly? No tweaking? I'll PM you if you want me to.

[Q] HTC Desire

ok a few things here,im from australia on telstra and i have a HTC Desire,i have never been able to root my phone,ive tried a few times and for some reason the programs just stop and fail,i have a suspicion its the software build because its branded with telstra,any info on that would be great because i wanted to change the OS to android 2.3,then i saw that the HTC developer site has the official update out,but it could ruin my SMS and MMS,will this happen with my phone? it looks to be region specific but even then its iffy,if it does stuff up those features how can i fix it? and is this update the final one or will there be another thats proper and without bugs like this,any reviews on this particular build of update would be appreciated,would love the official but if i need to il root but i cant so any info here is great...sorry it dragged on,im kinda noob at all this lol
ice_cold17 said:
ok a few things here,im from australia on telstra and i have a HTC Desire,i have never been able to root my phone,ive tried a few times and for some reason the programs just stop and fail,i have a suspicion its the software build because its branded with telstra,any info on that would be great because i wanted to change the OS to android 2.3,then i saw that the HTC developer site has the official update out,but it could ruin my SMS and MMS,will this happen with my phone? it looks to be region specific but even then its iffy,if it does stuff up those features how can i fix it? and is this update the final one or will there be another thats proper and without bugs like this,any reviews on this particular build of update would be appreciated,would love the official but if i need to il root but i cant so any info here is great...sorry it dragged on,im kinda noob at all this lol
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You'll be better of posting this in the DESIRE forum
my phone is desire s,i have my phone s-off and flash miui rom just a few days ago
but my english is not well enough to tell you how to do it
here's the link where i learned how to flash rom
but it's chinese
http //bbs.gfan.com/android-1736253-1-1.html
plz plus “:” after http
HTC Holiday prototype found......?
So lets just say, hypothetically speaking of course right....., well lets just say someone found one on the street...? should this person turn it in, or should they sell it to someone.....??? i mean, im sure someone would want that phone if this was all true right..? idk IM JUS SAYING THO, what would their best choice be............ *hint hint* *wink wink* haha hmm what do you all think????
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So lets just say, hypothetically speaking of course right....., well lets just say someone found one on the street...? should this person turn it in, or should they sell it to someone.....??? i mean, im sure someone would want that phone if this was all true right..? idk IM JUS SAYING THO, what would their best choice be............ *hint hint* *wink wink* haha hmm what do you all think????
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Wtf? Keep taking the tablets
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium
turn to desire forum u can find anything u need

[Q] ESN/MEID Locations for EVO 3D

How are you able to read the ESN/MEID locations for EVO 3D
I have gotten this far but having trouble finding all locations with QXDM
Please PM me guys ...I have read and read to no avail
again I got all the other stuff just can not find how to read the locations
I found the info I needed just had to update qpst to build 266 and BAMM got it
but seriously a &$#& program update JEZZZUZ..this took me 24 hours but took 2 minutes to do it LOLLOL
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
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Behind the battery maybe?
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dirtysausage said:
How are you able to read the ESN/MEID locations for EVO 3D
I have gotten this far but having trouble finding all locations with QXDM
Please PM me guys ...I have read and read to no avail
again I got all the other stuff just can not find how to read the locations
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I think there is a slight misunderstanding, based on other posts answering this question. Think the misunderstanding is occuring because the OP asks for information on how to "read" the MEID.
As opposed to just being able to "read" the MEID, he is looking for the QXDM location to "read" the MEID, not places in the stock ROM to read the MEID. Also, the only reason people want the MEID location through the QXDM would be to modify the MEID. I could be wrong, and if so, there are a few locations to just read the MEID, QXDM mode is not required to just read the MEID.
Regarding being able to read the MEID location through QXDM mode. Wish I knew more on the subject but I've only heard a very little. The issue on this device being similar with the EVO Shift all due to the EMMC type of memory. I've heard due to the EMMC style memory on this device, the locations or addresses to the locations can be *floating* or *dynamic*?
I haven't verified that information at all so not sure how helpful it will be but maybe it'll help point in the right direction ...
joeykrim said:
Wish I knew more on the subject but I've only heard a very little. The issue on this device being similar with the EVO Shift all due to the EMMC type of memory. I've heard due to the EMMC style memory on this device, the locations or addresses to the locations can be *floating* or *dynamic*?
I haven't verified that information at all so not sure how helpful it will be but maybe it'll help point in the right direction ...
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Thank you for response ....I still need the help
please someone this sucks to stop after the long process
of reading all info from other phone and all the unlocking LOL rooting....O GOD
For the MEID, if you can boot the phone:
Settings> About phone> Phone identity> MEID
Sent from my Evo3D Shooter.
hi I am stuck on this as well can you let me know how you used qxdm.to fond the locations? thanks
I said it before buy cdma workshop u need the latest version u can change the meid and esn in a few seconds no need to know the location just read and write very simple
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I have cdma workshop so I know this works
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EVO 3D Radio 0.97.10.0808
2.3.4 H.Boot 1.5
Sense 3.0 208.651.2
Radio - 0.97.10.0808
Does anyone know the mem location for this radio?
Or the correct radio.
Please any help would be great please PM me.
@ ezfilez
More than likely since its a newer radio you will have to do a memory dump and use a hex editor program to find the locations. I haven't seen any users posting were the location are for that radio. If your wanting to swich phone carriers what might work for you is to find out what radio users are using currently to flash over to the carrier you want because someone should already have the esn & meid locations. Then flash that radio. Then you can search and easily find out what xda member has switched over to the carrier you want to and send him/her a pm asking if they will share were the esn & meid locations are, and I'm sure they will.
Hope this helps.
#Root-Hack\Mod*Always_
""Shooter on Deck""
dirty sausage or someone with experience with evo 3d can ya pm me or email me [email protected]
I've been at this for weeks.
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Behind the battery maybe?
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Racer Of All said:
For the MEID, if you can boot the phone:
Settings> About phone> Phone identity> MEID
Sent from my Evo3D Shooter.
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Americans you are soooooooo Americans! I love you guys! Not gay. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I have learned so much from this thread. However I am curious as to know what benefit could you get from changing meid?
^^^
May be to use the phone with another carrier!
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May be to use the phone with another carrier!
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Help? I'm a total noob .-.

Hellow dudes and dudas , , i really need ur help because i'm a total noob,
first, what is GSM and CDMA
second, how can i root my htc evo 3d? , like i tryed the think here in the site, but when i call the ##3282# or soo, here in angola don't work :C,
so i saw the other one with the s-of and root from revolutionary.io but my hboot is 1.53.0007 D: and i can't root
can you guys help me? plzz ?
GSM means the phone uses a sim card and CDMA doesn't. Sprint and Verizon are CDMA. Look at the stickies in either the CDMA or GSM Android Development whichever you are. There you will find how to root your phone.
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I'm really new to this too - I'm no expert.
To expand on Kevin130's info, GSM and CDMA are basically different mobile network types. They are not compatible so a phone is either gsm or cdma. In terms of where you are, I'd guess you're on GSM. Have a look at Wikipedia below, if you're with either of the listed Operators you are on a GSM network and have a GSM phone.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators_of_the_Middle_East_and_Africa#Angola
I've had a big fail and success at rooting my phone. I would strongly recommend that before you try again, read as much as you can on xda or other android forum sites about rooting phones. It's really worthwhile to understand as much as you can about it before trying. Although it's quite hard to wreck your phone by doing something wrong, it can still cause you a lot of pain to try and fix problems you don't understand.
For some entry info on rooting android, google 'beginners guide rooting android'
Also search for thread here using keywords like 'guide' 'root' 'evo 3d' - I think you are better off following guides specific to HTC Evo 3Ds.
Also search for guides or threads or any tips relating to your HBOOT version. One thing I've learned is that pretty much each HBOOT version requires different steps to unlock/root.
Read the whole guide and comments before you start. The first time i tried rooting a phone I jumped straight in and almost broke it. If I'd just read more I would have saved hours or days trying to undo things.
As I said I'm really new at this, so that is really all I can provide by way of help.
Good luck and hope you have fun with it.
cheers
If you reboot into the bootloader (put the phone off, pull battery, replace battery, hold volume down + power untill bootloader shows) you can see if you are gsm or cdma.
It will say 'shooter' or 'shooteru'
shooter is cdma, shooteru is gsm.

S-Off ~ What are the requirements to figure it out?

Nothing changed since this thread opened, got a new question just jump to page 2
I am well aware that till now unless you have a developer phone with CID 11111111 you can't gain SuperCID which will make you able to S-Off your device (For those who are not aware what is S-Off , Its making the security on your bootloader "off" hence enabling you to flash your roms without the need to fastboot flash your boot.img)
But on a developer side, what do the devs need for the "Great Dream" of S-Off to be achieved for all of us?
Files, source codes , exploits. What exactly?
I am aware that this topic has seen the light of day more than once, but every time this topic is opened, no more than a week later its "dead". Why is it THAT impossible to figure out?
I am vaguely aware that it has something to do with the "Tegra 3" chip, but why? If it has something to do with the "Source Code" is there a class talking about security that the devs just removes from the equation then flashes it instead?
I am quite interested in this topic and I tried to look around, but I don't really know the process of what is actually going on under the hood. So Any general help/discussion is welcomed (and encouraged) . If anyone with any "IDEA" about how its done wanna join in (even if he isn't quite sure) or if a DEV from another device did it and can help please do. It's basically a GENERAL discusison that might help brainstorm some ideas .
As always, links to other threads explaining the whole process is welcomed, but just please don't reply with "IDK" because that's basically considered spam
I Also found this out : HTCDev.com uploaded a couple of source codes about their kernel : http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads which includes the HOX+ if that will be of any help.
Final words: I know that this thread won't probably magically just solve it, But it's just mostly for me and other users to learn
Edit: Since its not really a Q&A Section and more of a general discussion in my opinion so I posted it in general because I want all devs to just talk, since its not really an "Answer the question" thread. MODs you can move the thread if you find it in the wrong section, thank you.
~Ghandour
SuperCID is not a prerequisite to S-Off. Infact it's the other way round, you need to remove the security flag (S-Off) before you have the nessesary permission to modify your Carrier-ID. .
There are ways for end users to attain S-Off but it's either very pricey (Buying a SETool box/Card/Credits and using LGTool to S-Off) or very risky (Sending your phone to someone who already has the equipment to S-Off your phone and hope they dont steel it) lol
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SuperCID is not a prerequisite to S-Off. Infact it's the other way round, you need to remove the security flag (S-Off) before you have the nessesary permission to modify your Carrier-ID. .
There are ways for end users to attain S-Off but it's either very pricey (Buying a SETool box/Card/Credits and using LGTool to S-Off) or very risky (Sending your phone to someone who already has the equipment to S-Off your phone and hope they dont steel it) lol
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OH I forgot to mention, I am well aware that you can S-Off your device using expensive equipment (javacard) and so forth and so on, but this thread was meant for pure normal S-Off the old fashioned way, which you can do without any fancy equipment. Because I am sure that the other phones that can be "S-Off"ed don't really require you to buy all those tools. ^^
They can but it's alot harder for us because of our Tegra SOC's.
I've always wondered why we dont start a donation thread, we could raise the money for the equipment and give it to a trusted member to buy (Someone like lloir but with more time) Then the members who donated could send their phone to this trusted member and get it S-Off'd...
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They can but it's alot harder for us because of our Tegra SOC's.
I've always wondered why we dont start a donation thread, we could raise the money for the equipment and give it to a trusted member to buy (Someone like lloir but with more time) Then the members who donated could send their phone to this trusted member and get it S-Off'd...
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Well there is a thread about sending your phone to the US to an XDA Member with a java card somewhere around but that's not the point at all....
The thread was meant to understand why is it hard? Why can't it be achieved? What is the issue exactly? (From a developer's point of view)
I found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057105
EDIT: This thread is helpful however the thread remains unsolved. What exploits do the dev try to find when trying to figure out a way to S-Off the device? Leaked DIAG zips ?
Because I am aware that the "S-ON" Policy is mostly only done by HTC. So How are other phones exploited? For example, the HTC One has a fully functional FULL S-OFF : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
So Does this App contains the "Diag" zip found in the app or what? Any dev explanation would be helpful.
Attaining SuperCID
I attempted attaining SuperCID by combining this method with this information about the HOX+. It does not appear to have changed anything, so it looks like that part of the memory can't be modified, which probably rules out any method similar to that.
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I attempted attaining SuperCID by combining this method with this information about the HOX+. It does not appear to have changed anything, so it looks like that part of the memory can't be modified, which probably rules out any method similar to that.
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Alright, So the issue we are talking about here is that the memory doesn't become saved. So the exploit basically will make it become saved.
So can't we talk about repeating the process over and over and over again till it actually works? Can't we remove the usb in the middle of the process and force a hard reboot?
Tell you what, I think i might try this out. Let's hope the phone keeps on running QQ
"Theoratically" speaking, what if we copy all that partition of the storage to our PC, format the partition then we push it. I know there will be a huge risk of break but in theory can this work without breaking the phone?
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Alright, So the issue we are talking about here is that the memory doesn't become saved. So the exploit basically will make it become saved.
So can't we talk about repeating the process over and over and over again till it actually works? Can't we remove the usb in the middle of the process and force a hard reboot?
Tell you what, I think i might try this out. Let's hope the phone keeps on running QQ
"Theoratically" speaking, what if we copy all that partition of the storage to our PC, format the partition then we push it. I know there will be a huge risk of break but in theory can this work without breaking the phone?
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Im willing to try whatever you want with my AT&T HOX+. Its a second phone that i dont use anyways. Just let me know what you want me to try. I would love S-OFF on it because then it might become useful to me.
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Im willing to try whatever you want with my AT&T HOX+. Its a second phone that i dont use anyways. Just let me know what you want me to try. I would love S-OFF on it because then it might become useful to me.
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Well I admit that I don't have experience with development yet so I can't ask you to brick your phone with "false" claims So That's out of the question for me. HOWEVER, If any exploit is discovered since I have an international phone , AT&T will be required to test it as well.. But that's not for the near future on my part .. haha and generally speaking if any dev wants you to risk your phone before he risks his then he is not worthy imo.
Anyway back to topic:
Now for the general understanding @WindyCityRockr This post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671396 says that you pull a file edit it with HEX Code editor and then push it again. I read somewhere that someone changed the paritition setup so basically the "SDCard" became a whole different partition. Can you elaborate on what file you pulled and tried? Where to find it if the location changed?
EDIT: I found it in the root section /dev/block/ the mmc files are there
What I understand is that the "unlock_code.bin" gained from HTCDev makes you gain partial unlock, Did anyone try to edit that file? I mean Maybe the key answer lies in that file. Maybe if you can edit this file then you flash it maybe you gain S-Off?
Now generally speaking, if you are unlocked with S-ON, on other devices where you can use an app to gain S-Off, do you need to relock your bootloader and flash RUU and stock recovery before you try to S-Off your device? What will happen if you dont.
Anyway I will try to load up the file and inspect it abit then report back
Would be a pleasure if more devs join in.
Problem with S-Off on OneX/X+ exists because of different hardware between this phones and any other HTCs. For now there is no way to restore Your phone even with JTAG (tegra has disabled JTAG). No one know what is exactly needed to repair baseband/IMEI after direct flashing eMMC. We can restore phone, but baseband is still dead. We know also there are 3 chips needed to be paired. CPU, eMMC and XGold 626. If You change only one of them- phone has no IMEI, being SIM locked or boot only in bootloader. There is also problem with bootloader- is locked. That's why You can't totaly brick Your phone. There is no way to change anything in bootloader, so We can't S-off phone. Probably even with Java card. I have some diag files for OneX, but not working. We stuck. We need to know how to get SBK for Tegra 3
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Problem with S-Off on OneX/X+ exists because of different hardware between this phones and any other HTCs. For now there is no way to restore Your phone even with JTAG (tegra has disabled JTAG). No one know what is exactly needed to repair baseband/IMEI after direct flashing eMMC. We can restore phone, but baseband is still dead. We know also there are 3 chips needed to be paired. CPU, eMMC and XGold 626. If You change only one of them- phone has no IMEI, being SIM locked or boot only in bootloader. There is also problem with bootloader- is locked. That's why You can't totaly brick Your phone. There is no way to change anything in bootloader, so We can't S-off phone. Probably even with Java card. I have some diag files for OneX, but not working. We stuck. We need to know how to get SBK for Tegra 3
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Alright, just let me comment or rather ask about some few points.
-I get that the international version and AT&T are different , one having LTE and the other dont, so does that mean that the S-Off here will be different between the international and the AT&T? If so, which is easier?
-You said if you change only one you become sim-locked, So did anyone succeed in changing one permenantly?
-There was a thread saying that you can make a backup of your IMEI folder and paste it , shouldn't that fix the IMEI issue?
-So you are saying even with a Java card and the original DIAGs we can't S-Off? How is that possible even though there are people who actually succeeded in doing so ?
So all these issues will be solved if we get the SBK? [Secure Boot Key] ?
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Alright, just let me comment or rather ask about some few points.
-I get that the international version and AT&T are different , one having LTE and the other dont, so does that mean that the S-Off here will be different between the international and the AT&T? If so, which is easier?
-You said if you change only one you become sim-locked, So did anyone succeed in changing one permenantly?
-There was a thread saying that you can make a backup of your IMEI folder and paste it , shouldn't that fix the IMEI issue?
-So you are saying even with a Java card and the original DIAGs we can't S-Off? How is that possible even though there are people who actually succeeded in doing so ?
So all these issues will be solved if we get the SBK? [Secure Boot Key] ?
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International and AT&T are different. International has Tegra3 CPU, AT&T is standard Snapdragon phone. It's just OneS in One X skin. So. probably for this last OneS S-Off solution should be working after some modifications. Need to ask some good devs. This version is also supported for JTAG flashing, IMEI repair etc.
Almost all HTCs has standard Qualcomm processors (even HTC One) and similar construction. International OneX is different. Completly different CPU (and GPU), different and locked by Nvidia bootloader. Security flags are in bootloader, so, We can't even touch it.
-I never heard about anyone who change any of this parts and bring phone to live. If anyone can do this- probably We can do everything else, incluging Bootloader security status changing (S-on/off)
-Yes, backup will help. But only if You still have original parts on Your PCB. If You change anything important- backup will not help You. To check how it's working We need to get 2 OneX with same version of SW, clean and not touched. Make backups and look inside. Mayby We can find differences and make solution for EFS repair. The sad things is 90% of broken OneX has HW problem, not SW.
- Still I have not Java card (White Card), but it's probably some universal device for new HTC models, but I'm affraid it can not work with International OneX, because of additional Tegra3 security. But mayby Java Card has some Tegra Security unlock instruction inside. Who knows
- I know some people just buy unlocked devices (for devs). Like I said before, I don't know how Java card is working, if it can disable Tegra security, then bootloader can be fully unlocked.
- Fater get SBK We can unlock bootloader, but for IMEI repair We need to understand OneX EFS construction, to know what should be change to see our IMEI and whole Radio back
For now I'm waiting for Z3X team progres on repair Nvidias HTC, they can directly flash eMMC, now, They're working on repair broken IMEI etc. That's the goal now.
Correction: ATT Model is Tegra 3
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Correction: ATT Model is Tegra 3
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No way! http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
AT&T One X has snapdragon cpu
AT&T One X"+" has Tegra3
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This is a One X+ thread go talk about One X elsewhere. AT&T One X+ is a Tegra 3 model.
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This is a One X+ thread go talk about One X elsewhere. AT&T One X+ is a Tegra 3 model.
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Chillax bro, LoLzZzZ (so swag, i know) . Well Since both phones do have similar hardware, except the AT&T One X , So the ideas are joined. So even if you own a tegra 3 HOX, it's fine that you post here if you have something to say. I think he just misread the forum , its fine
Yeah, sorry, I was reading posts on HOX and HOX+ forums and just wrote on bad section. Sorry again, but HOX and HOX+ are similar phones. HOX+ has a little better CPU. S-off problem is same, Nvidia security is probably same. So, We still can't do anything.
I don't know much about programming, but if We can unlock bootloader via HTCdev, then must be some backdoor on Nvidia security, or mayby seucrity is disabled during bootloader unlocking operation. Mayby this is the way. Or mayby this part of bootloader security is somewhere else and Nvidia key not blocking this. I don't know. Any Dev is needed here.
Gotta love it when I resurrect an old thread (oh resurrect. Such a big word)
I've been wondering for quite a while about this question.
Turing on "Power saving" mode in the sense rom, turns down your CPU to 1.3GHZ, which means it UNDERCLOCKS your device. Correct me If I am wrong, if you are S-On you neither can underclock nor overclock your cpu . Right?
I know this has been thought by other great developers before, but is there no way to de-compile just the power saving function and inspecting to see how it gains the S-Off access? I mean the answer must be there.

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