Cloning - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anyone know of any software that I could use to clone the software and settings of my old Atrix to a new one? I know that I could use Titanium Backup to transfer the files and settings over, but is there a way to clone it by connecting both phones to a computer?

Not 100% sure if it would work but maybe a nandroid backup? An restore on the other device?
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Bert.C said:
Not 100% sure if it would work but maybe a nandroid backup? An restore on the other device?
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I was thinking of that as well, considering that nandroid is basically a "system image." I'm looking for something I can keep on my computer and use as a quick use if I replace my Atrix again. Thanks though I will give it a shot, just have to make a nandroid back up on my new phone first.
Update: It worked, no bricking happened, I am pleased with this. I would still like to find a cloning software, for future purposes.

Erebus671 said:
I was thinking of that as well, considering that nandroid is basically a "system image." I'm looking for something I can keep on my computer and use as a quick use if I replace my Atrix again. Thanks though I will give it a shot, just have to make a nandroid back up on my new phone first.
Update: It worked, no bricking happened, I am pleased with this. I would still like to find a cloning software, for future purposes.
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That's good news mate.
I thought nandroid would copy data too so all your apps and settings would copy over aswel.
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Yes, nandroid is the best way to "clone" your whole user environment, but be careful - you don't want to copy everything. For example, a nandroid backup also includes pds, and that is best not copied to the new device.

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GO Backup is the most simple and complete way. Save the backup to microsd, take this and put in the destination and restore data. You need root of course.

Bert.C said:
That's good news mate.
I thought nandroid would copy data too so all your apps and settings would copy over aswel.
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Yes, I knew it would, but as ravilov mentioned it is not the best way, which is why I wanted to utilize something more... "Sophisticated," for lack of a better term.
ravilov said:
Yes, nandroid is the best way to "clone" your whole user environment, but be careful - you don't want to copy everything. For example, a nandroid backup also includes pds, and that is best not copied to the new device.
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This might explain the initial instability that I encountered after the first boot, but it's cleared up after a few boots, we'll see how it goes. Is there a way that I could have removed the pds from the nand and replace it with the original pds? And if there is, are there any other files that you would recommend doing the same thing with? Thanks in advanced.
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GO Backup is the most simple and complete way. Save the backup to microsd, take this and put in the destination and restore data. You need root of course.
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Yes, I'm aware of GO Backup, I prefer Titanium Backup though, I even have the pro key for TiBu, but I wanted a more "complete" cloning. Thanks for the tip though, I appreciate everyone's input.

Erebus671 said:
This might explain the initial instability that I encountered after the first boot, but it's cleared up after a few boots, we'll see how it goes. Is there a way that I could have removed the pds from the nand and replace it with the original pds? And if there is, are there any other files that you would recommend doing the same thing with? Thanks in advanced.
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This is the content of my nandroid backup:
Code:
boot.img
cache.ext3.tar
data.ext3.tar
nandroid.md5
pds.ext3.tar
recovery.img
system.ext3.tar
I think pds is the only one that should not be restored. cache should not need to be cloned but it doesn't matter if it does. You can just delete the pds file and also the entry for it from nandroid.md5 (but make sure you use a text editor that has good UNIX support). No need to replace it with another pds - what's not in nandroid.md5 simply won't get touched or restored.

ravilov said:
This is the content of my nandroid backup:
Code:
boot.img
cache.ext3.tar
data.ext3.tar
nandroid.md5
pds.ext3.tar
recovery.img
system.ext3.tar
I think pds is the only one that should not be restored. cache should not need to be cloned but it doesn't matter if it does. You can just delete the pds file and also the entry for it from nandroid.md5 (but make sure you use a text editor that has good UNIX support). No need to replace it with another pds - what's not in nandroid.md5 simply won't get touched or restored.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I needed to know, won't be doing it on an Atrix any time soon, because I'm moving to the S3 threads in the next month or so, but it's good to know if I need to do this on my S3.

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Is it Possible?

I was wondering how I could make an exact copy of my system the way I have it set up, minus my personal info / installed apps after the fact and transfer it to another note.
I installed Holo kernel / TCPnote v2, froze tw launcher (after installing the latest golauncher ex beta) and several other bloat related things. Basically the whole system is running GoContacts / sms / launcher / locker. Changed some memory options / font / themes.
I have a friend that has a note as well and he liked my setup but I don't feel like going through all the work of doing it all again on his and was wondering if there was someway I could dump my setup to a image and reflash on his.
Any input is appreicated.
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
jb0nd38372 said:
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
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You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
Thanks for the idea, I dunno if what I said in the first post was sensible, I already have a bunch of apps and stuff installed for me, that 'm sure he wouldn't want. What I was hoping to do is be able to image the core system (or the whole thing, and take out extras + my personal info / accounts, etc) then repackage it, flash with odin or cwm, Basically like the devs do roms, except backwards. I have the system setup / tweaks / launcher / addon's and would like to pull that out, minus anything i had installed afterwards, and make it flashable to his phone by any means necessary.
His phone is completely stock, so if I could image it to fash thru odin then he would have working root / cwm / custom rom + beats and other things i've deleted such as bloatware / vpn / stuff average users will never use.
Any other sugguestions?
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You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
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No I dont know how to do it any other way. but if you could give me a thanks for trying it would be very appreciated
On Titanium Backup, you can uncheckmark the programs that you don't want to restore.
You can do a backup on your phone, and a backup using Titanium Backup, restore onto his phone by copying over the clockwordmod folder and the Titanium Backup folder.
Root/cwm his phone, then restore using cwm. Factory reset, then reboot.
Download Titanium Backup (Pro makes this a lot less painful), run it, do a batch restore, and uncheck the programs he won't use.
EDIT: Someone else ninja'd me. I really don't know if there's a way to reverse it. There should be theoretically. You most likely would have to still factory reset and use titanium backup.
EDIT 2: This might work: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p3droid.odinmaker.donate
Can you make a nandroid without data and cache?
at first glance it looks like you want to make a rom
but upon reading it again, i have to say:
generally no, but it MIGHT be possible with LOTS of work
the main problem is, that most of your settings (like widgets, ...) are stored in data.
so what you could do is:
manually remove the data stuff you don't want, keep only the stuff you really need (lots of work, and might not work correctly)
and then you might be able to share it together with your system image (you would need to wipe cache and data before you write your backed up data...
which brings us back to the original answer...
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
Chief Geek said:
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
jb0nd38372 said:
Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
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00mred00 said:
Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
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Just my thought. Search for the user Samcripp. He basically has a program that makes s a system img of your current setup. I know it is in the skyrocket forum but not sure if it would work for our device.....not sure why it wouldn't but that's why I'm not a dev.... lol
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[Q] Troubles booting after installing BusyBox

I have a Wind Amaze with Ruby installed. S-Off, unlocked, the whole shabang. I have been trouble free for months with this install...
Until yesterday when I installed BusyBox to adjust some Facebook permissions using the Permissions App. All I wanted was the Permissions App, but I needed BB to install it, so I did it without knowing really what it was. What is it exactly?
Now my phone will boot but after I unlock the screen, it will just freeze and reboot like 10 mins later. Sometimes I can get further but within a minute or so, it freezes once again.
Yesterday, I also installed a new 32GB SD card but I don't think that's the problem, as I've tried my old card. I'm considering just reflashing the device with a new ROM but I don't want to have to go through the trouble of reconfiguring everything.
If anyone has a fix or suggestion, it would be greatly appreciated.
never mind sorry ...
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Spastic909 said:
never mind sorry ...
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You never made a backup huh?
Dark Nightmare said:
You never made a backup huh?
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I have Titanium Backup installed on the phone and I'm fairly sure it was backing up regularly. But how would I use that when I can't even boot the phone? I tried booting into custom recovery and recovering but no files were present.
Signed, Noob
kspence said:
I have Titanium Backup installed on the phone and I'm fairly sure it was backing up regularly. But how would I use that when I can't even boot the phone? I tried booting into custom recovery and recovering but no files were present.
Signed, Noob
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Lol accidentally given a thanks but eh, doesn't matter.
You'll need to reinstall, since you have no backup to work with and we don't have a flashable zip of the WIND system files for ya, sorry.
Dark Nightmare said:
Lol accidentally given a thanks but eh, doesn't matter.
You'll need to reinstall, since you have no backup to work with and we don't have a flashable zip of the WIND system files for ya, sorry.
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Thanks for the thanks. Have one yourself
How is it that I can't use a Titanium backup?
kspence said:
Thanks for the thanks. Have one yourself
How is it that I can't use a Titanium backup?
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Titanium backup makes backups of apps/app data, a system backup via recovery makes a backup of the entire system including all files/apps, etc in the the system partition, that's why you should always make a backup in recovery and keep it on your sd card just in case this happens, busybox and the likes change system files/permissions etc, just in case it doesn't work well, you can use a system backup to restore the system files it modified.
Two totally backups, get the idea?
Ah ha, makes sense. I wish I had known this earlier but I suppose this is how you learn.
Could it be possible to grab the titanium backup files if I attach my phone to my computer in disk mode then transfer them when I install the new ROM?
kspence said:
Ah ha, makes sense. I wish I had known this earlier but I suppose this is how you learn.
Could it be possible to grab the titanium backup files if I attach my phone to my computer in disk mode then transfer them when I install the new ROM?
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Should be possible, if you can't get it done in the android interface, reboot into 4EXT recovery and choose the mount USB storage option, should make your memory card pop up like it would on the phone for you to copy your files to your pc.

No imei

Alright... well I flashed aokp from Roman today. And I lost my imei. I have never had this problem before. I did a nandroid restore and nothing works. I have a back up from titanium back up and installed all my system data but still nothing...
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also I can't get anything but edge. If I'm lucky...
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Ouch, you might be out of luck man, might need to get a new phone as theres no real known "way" of restoring the backups of /efs folders or nvdata.bin etc on this phone yet , give this thread a read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753833 its a known issue that can occur after flashing a rom on this phone... good luck.
edit, usually to save this kind of stuff you need to backup your efs folder, meaning that a nandroid backup nor a tibu backup can't help you with this; it needs to be done separately.
MacTheRipperr said:
Alright... well I flashed aokp from Roman today. And I lost my imei. I have never had this problem before. I did a nandroid restore and nothing works. I have a back up from titanium back up and installed all my system data but still nothing...
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If you lived here in California I would help you restore your imei
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unleashed12 said:
Ouch, you might be out of luck man, might need to get a new phone as theres no real known "way" of restoring the backups of /efs folders or nvdata.bin etc on this phone yet , give this thread a read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753833 its a known issue that can occur after flashing a rom on this phone... good luck.
edit, usually to save this kind of stuff you need to backup your efs folder, meaning that a nandroid backup nor a tibu backup can't help you with this; it needs to be done separately.
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Out of curiosity, how do you backup those files separately?
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ThC23 said:
Out of curiosity, how do you backup those files separately?
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If your rooted use a root enabled file explorer (I use Root Explorer) and open it up to /. There should be a folder called “efs". Simply copy that folder and place it on your internal or external sd, then for safe keeping place it on your laptop/computer
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fergie716 said:
If your rooted use a root enabled file explorer (I use Root Explorer) and open it up to /. There should be a folder called “efs". Simply copy that folder and place it on your internal or external sd, then for safe keeping place it on your laptop/computer
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I've been nervous about flashing anything else since I've read about 4 cases like this. I'm so freakin happy I found this thread! I've found the efs folder your referring to, but I don't know if I should copy the efs folder to my external storage or open it & just copy the IMEI folder to my external storage? Your help would be so very much appreciated.
Maybe someone should put this in general and try to get it stickied, as it seems like a necessary preventive maintenance?
Edit: I just backed up the whole folder to be safe, and I'm going to make a general post referring to this problem.

Nandroid backup issues

Anyone know why I can't do a nandroid backup? Every time I try it gives me an error creating MD5 checksum. Currently I'm on AOKP M1 with the built-in kernel which includes CWM 6.0.1.5, but I don't think I've ever gotten it to work with any JellyBean ROM. I'm still using my stock class 2 card and I still have 9gb free space.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Are you trying to restore a older nandroid from before the recent partition change? If so, then it won't work. If not then I believe I remember seeing a thread about correcting an md5 error with a nandroid, but I don't have a link for you, sorry. Try to do a search.
I personally don't use nandroids because it backs up system data which in a way defeats the purpose of doing a complete data wipe (which I do often before installing new roms). I simply use TiBu to restore all my apps and just spend 5-10 minutes or so fixing the system settings, then I'm good to go.
I'm not restoring a previous nandroid backup; I'm actually trying to use it to back up my current setup. I'll try to search the issue, unless someone knows where to find it.
I may have to give TiBu another try. It's just nicer to do the nandroid because I wouldn't have to reactivate the phone or resync my accounts afterwards. Basically if I want to try a different ROM and I don't like it I could easily go back to the previous ROM with all my settings and layout.
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scarfman4 said:
I'm not restoring a previous nandroid backup; I'm actually trying to use it to back up my current setup. I'll try to search the issue, unless someone knows where to find it.
I may have to give TiBu another try. It's just nicer to do the nandroid because I wouldn't have to reactivate the phone or resync my accounts afterwards. Basically if I want to try a different ROM and I don't like it I could easily go back to the previous ROM with all my settings and layout.
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You have to reactivate the phone when you flash a rom? Yeah I guess I can see how that would be annoying. I've never had to do that before, however I do have to sign into google every time (doesn't really bother me)
I always make it a habit to reactivate after flashing a new ROM if I also do a data wipe. Otherwise I can't receive calls or texts.
I wonder if the failing backup is because of the larger system partition?
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Try a older version of cwm...perhaps 6.0.1. Back when ics was first dropped cwm 5 had similar issues. There is a way to fix it, ill see if i can dig it up for ya.
edit* found it!!
Fix CWM 5.x Nandroid Backup
Let's just say you did what I did today, and did a backup, flashed another ROM, then tried to restore back to the nandroid you just made. Didn't work did it. Come to find out, I wasn't watching the backup, and it fails to generate an MD5 sum. I did a little searching to find out what to do, and I found the following steps (not my work...thanks goes to "desmail" for sharing this).
To fix this is assuming you did not change the folder names and let Clockworkmod create them.*
Code:Checking MD5 sums...
MD5 mismatch!
- Plug your phone to the computer
- Open a Terminal and type:
Code:adb devices
adb shell
# cd /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2011-06-29.20.22.53
# rm nandroid.md5 (Probably will fail - for me, the file was never there to begin with...this is fine)
# md5sum *img > nandroid.md5
# exit
****Make sure you change "2011-06-29.20.22.53" to the name of your backup folder*****
- Re-run the restore and everything should be fine.
You will most likely need the Nexus S ADB drivers to accomplish this.

[Q] CMW blobs

hi guys,i have a simple question,afte searching of xda,i couldn't get a proper answer so i wish to start a topic.
i have blobs folder in CWM folder,it took about 1 Gig of space.if i delete this folder,does it make or damage the CWM?or the backups will be corrupt?kindly answer.thanks.
I believe they are part of a new CWM incremental backup method and should not be deleted. I did my first backup under that method today and you will notice if you look that the old locations of the backup is less then 20 mb.
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I believe they are part of a new CWM incremental backup method and should not be deleted. I did my first backup under that method today and you will notice if you look that the old locations of the backup is less then 20 mb.
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but i have deleted the backup.i dont need any backup.so keeping them is still must?
If the backup is gone then I doubt you need them.
shadowofdarkness said:
If the backup is gone then I doubt you need them.
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is there any son of a human who can reply this threat?
adilliano said:
is there any son of a human who can reply this threat?
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All that a 'Son/son's of a human' can do is ask why u messed up with that blob folder in the first place.
if u really see that its aint needed for u any more, then its quite obvious that u arnt into restoring the old backup
In recovery there is an option to free unused backup data, which will detect back up data that isn't needed for old backups anymore. Personally though, I just changed the default backup type back to tar.
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