Can I just root my phone without unlocking the bootloader? If so, how do I go about doing that?
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Not perm root. You have to flash a custom recovery to flash the root package. I believe you can temp root however.
Patgt500 said:
Not perm root. You have to flash a custom recovery to flash the root package. I believe you can temp root however.
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Darn that sucks. Well thank you.
S off maybe? Since on s off you need to be locked and dont need to use htcdev and after you can change the dirtyracun logo to locked again
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Mrdroid921 said:
Can I just root my phone without unlocking the bootloader? If so, how do I go about doing that?
Thanks.
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Yes. Use the DirtyRacun tool for the Dinc4G at unlimited.io. Be sure to follow the directions *exactly*. This process does not unlock the bootloader.
Somebody tell me what "unlock the bootloader" means. I only know about s-on and S-off.
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Somebody tell me what "unlock the bootloader" means. I only know about s-on and S-off.
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Unlock bootloader is for flashing roms and kernels, without significant changes to the phone itself, s off gives you full acces to the phone, soffed you can flash radios bootimages bootloaders, and manipulate everything, also meaning a risk of completely bricking
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so doing this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039601
will not allow me to flash roms / kernels?
j13smiley said:
so doing this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039601
will not allow me to flash roms / kernels?
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This allows you to do EVERYTHING!
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prairiedogn said:
This allows you to do EVERYTHING!
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Including completely and permanently bricking your phone
Worth it, but be careful.
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ok - just wanted to make sure i was following correctly.
s-off is a step past simply unlocking the bootloader. doing either will allow you to flash roms / kernels / custom recovery? s-off will also make it a bit easier to brick your phone if you don't follow directions.
i rooted my original inc... s-off seemed to be the way to go on that phone which i did with no problems... maybe that made me braver than i should be
S-off is the way to go. Just stick with ROMs/kernels/radios for this phone. Flashing files for other phones will usually brick your phone.
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Ok so I have been working with my buddies thunderbolt. He didn't want a data wipe, so we used the htcdev method to root 2.11.605.9, and flash CMW 4.0.1.5. Now I can not find a rom that will flash with out giving it a WIFI-error, I assume its because the kernel isn't flashed properly. I either need a method to flash the rom/kernel so the WIFI-error doesn't show, or s-off and flash regularly.
1.link is s-off tool, will it work for unlocked using htcdev method?
My phone is also rooted with the htcdev method and i just use Flash Image Gui to flash kernels with s-on.
http://www.myhtc.biz/2012/htc-thunderbolt-rooting-s-off-sim-unlock-htc-sense-guide/
Can't say for sure if it will work or not. The recommended method for S-OFF however is at revolutionary (dot) io
I'd recommended giving that a try first as it will error out before it has a chance to break something. Be sure to read the documentation carefully before beginning.
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Can I use revelutionary after I already unlocked the bootloader?
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yes you can
zbergmark said:
Can I use revelutionary after I already unlocked the bootloader?
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I was finally able to get my 605.9 TB in an S-OFF configuration with the procedure I followed from Thunderbolt Forums (search Downgrade get s off now unneccessary):
I just got HBOOT to show S-OFF with this method and it replaces the "Unlock" header from HTCDev to "Revolutionary" once the procedure is completed.
All props go to OP in ThunderboltForums in above link. Next to flash a couple of ROMs and see if it really did work.
So I see there's a way to unlock the bootloader via HTC, is there anything there way besides that? For example revolutionary. Link would be helpful too since I'm on mobile. Thanks I'm advance!
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nope, no other way yet.
Read around.
Only two ways to unlock bootloader.
By HTC or S-OFF by Juponutbear.
Either way, you have to do HTC's unlock before you can do the S-OFF procedure.
There's no revolutionary-ish method I'm aware of, root comes easily through ROMs, flashing a SU.zip, or adding superuser through Amon Ra.
I Am Marino said:
Read around.
Only two ways to unlock bootloader.
By HTC or S-OFF by Juponutbear.
Either way, you have to do HTC's unlock before you can do the S-OFF procedure.
There's no revolutionary-ish method I'm aware of, root comes easily through ROMs, flashing a SU.zip, or adding superuser through Amon Ra.
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Can you provide a list link for juponutbear please? Last time I rooted was a dinc 2 via revolutionary and I been training for the army for about 4 months now so ima a little rusty
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You must do HTC unlock first.
This unlocks the bootloader and allows you to root.
Then you must root, and the only method of doing that that I'm currently aware of is to use Amon Ra to root the phone.
Then you can get S-OFF via the Juopunutbear method.
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You must do HTC unlock first.
This unlocks the bootloader and allows you to root.
Then you must root, and the only method of doing that that I'm currently aware of is to use Amon Ra to root the phone.
Then you can get S-OFF via the Juopunutbear method.
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I know the boot loader part but don't I have to s off before root?
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bluedegeon said:
I know the boot loader part but don't I have to s off before root?
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You don't NEED soff it's just helpful in some cases
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I know the boot loader part but don't I have to s off before root?
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No.
Only a custom recovery, which would at least need HTC's unlock.
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So I see there's a way to unlock the bootloader via HTC, is there anything there way besides that? For example revolutionary. Link would be helpful too since I'm on mobile. Thanks I'm advance!
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Hey OP, there are root methods for the stock firmware, the 1.02.605.6 that comes with the phone new.
If you have not gone to the OTA firmware yet, 2.01.605.11, you can use those root methods.
Someone else feel free to tell me to go back to sleep, if I need it, too
Edit 3: Removing my tinfoil hat and going back to sleep for now, sorry.
Okay I'm on the latest version. Will the tool from the development forum work still?
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If you are updated to the OTA firmware, you can only accomplish root by Unlocking the bootloader first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
This guide details the process succinctly and is what I used, however:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504824
If you download the All-In-One toolkit and follow the guide it can simplify the process greatly. Perm Root option is in the Extras section for you after Unlock, and AmonRa recovery is recommended. Some ClockworkMod users have some nasty trouble charging battery when it becomes fully drained.
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If you are updated to the OTA firmware, you can only accomplish root by Unlocking the bootloader first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
This guide details the process succinctly and is what I used, however:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504824
If you download the All-In-One toolkit and follow the guide it can simplify the process greatly. Perm Root option is in the Extras section for you after Unlock, and AmonRa recovery is recommended. Some ClockworkMod users have some nasty trouble charging battery when it becomes fully drained.
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Alright thanks. Yeah I don't like cwm anyways. I wish 4ext was available. Best recovery I ever used.
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Hello.
I have a friend's Thunderbolt that's called HTC Cobalt in Open Mobile. I unlocked it via HTC dev and it all ran successfully. Now I'm trying to install a recovery (CWM). And all I get is an error.
I tried installing it via Revolutionary, but no go. I also tried the All in One Thunderbolt tool and still no go. Here's a pic of the bootloader:
Is there a way to root this thing properly to add a recovery?
Can u flash 4ext in hboot?
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HolloWX said:
Hello.
I have a friend's Thunderbolt that's called HTC Cobalt in Open Mobile. I unlocked it via HTC dev and it all ran successfully. Now I'm trying to install a recovery (CWM). And all I get is an error.
I tried installing it via Revolutionary, but no go. I also tried the All in One Thunderbolt tool and still no go. Here's a pic of the bootloader:
Is there a way to root this thing properly to add a recovery?
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Did you use the root option in the thunderbolt tool?
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Did you use the root option in the thunderbolt tool?
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Yes, and it said something about the phone's software being old.
And later attempted to use Zergrush, but it failed.
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Can u flash 4ext in hboot?
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Haven't tried that, just tried to flash clockwork via ADB
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How come your bootloader doesnt show unlocked?
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Yes, and it said something about the phone's software being old.
And later attempted to use Zergrush, but it failed.
Haven't tried that, just tried to flash clockwork via ADB
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What's the software version?
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disconnecktie said:
How come your bootloader doesnt show unlocked?
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Well, I had to do an OEM lock just in case cuz he returns it. I told him not to though. Open mobile employees are kind of dumb so it would look better as relocked than unlocked.
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What's the software version?
I think its the very lastest. He got the phone this past week, and I tried to do a firmware update and it said up to date.
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You need to unlock it again in order to put the recovery on it. That will be the only way to get superuser installed.
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well, i tried installing it via adb. I guess I'll try 4Ext next time. I'll keep this thread updated. thank you all
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What does ROM version say in the tbolt tool?
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What does ROM version say in the tbolt tool?
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since youve allready unlocked,heres what id do:
-reunlock(use original token)
-fastboot flash recovery( fastboot flash recovery <recoveryname>.img
you can use any recovery,it doesnt have to be ext 4. i personally refer twrp or amon,but thats up to you.
-flash a rooted stock rom,2.11.605.5 or older
-run revolutionary
despite calling the open mobile modle "cobalt" the hboot screen clearly displays mecha,so theres really no reason revolutionary shouldnt work.
if it is getting some sort of CID error,might try making a gold card and putting it into the phone when running revolutionary.
in a worse case,you can always make a gold card and downgrade to exploitable vzw firmware,and manually write shadowmites permanent patched hboot. after that,you should be able to fastboot oem write cid 11111111 to superCID the TB and then run the open mobile ruu to get back to that firmware.
just holler if you need a download and/or help with the commands
Great post. I will try that. Thanks a TON!!!
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check out this thread:
http://androidforums.com/thunderbol...591-help-root-htc-cobalt-aka-thunderbolt.html (i actually found yours while searching for info for the other one )
all he did was run fre3vo and then revolutionary. you can stay relocked and do that(directions here: http://androidforums.com/thunderbolt-all-things-root/418539-thunderbolt-root-unroot-thread.html )
or you can re-unlock,flash recovery,then prolly flash superuser 3.0.7 instead of flashing a stock rom. all that really matters is root acess for revolutionary to work. shouldnt matter if its temp root from fre3vo,or permanent root from htcdev
the main thing is that it worked for him without the use of a gold card.
Can someone possibly give those of us who aren't s-off the steps to flash either of these roms. Any help is greatly appreciated guys.
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I would assume the same way as other roms except after you install the rom, flash gapps as well. Then flash boot.img in fastboot
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Would that cover the kernel as well? I ask because dmeadows says it requires s-off and alludes to ways to do it s-on but didn't give specifics. I'm on my phone only with the XDA app so searching isn't any simple task
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Yes. It should work like any other rom. I also recommend you s-off soon if you plan on doing it at all before the ota comes out. It saves a lot of headache
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I'm HTC unlocked, just haven't been around a pc long enough since I did that to s-off yet.
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How to install without S-OFF:
1) Make sure you are on a currently rooted rom w/ htc dev unlock
2) Run the S-OFF Utility
3) Reflash recovery & fix sd card
4) Install ROM as instructed
lol, pull the boot image from the rom.zip & flash it in fastboot
What con said will work... if you want to know what you are actually doing with some more in-depth instructions then check out this post over at androidforums.com:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-all-things-root/499172-how-manually-flash-roms.html
Good Luck!
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lol, pull the boot image from the rom.zip & flash it in fastboot
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There you go.
con247 said:
How to install without S-OFF:
1) Make sure you are on a currently rooted rom w/ htc dev unlock
2) Run the S-OFF Utility
3) Reflash recovery & fix sd card
4) Install ROM as instructed
lol, pull the boot image from the rom.zip & flash it in fastboot
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That is the best method I've seen yet lol
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Is my sarcasm detector going off?
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Is my sarcasm detector going off?
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Um I'd say so, what he's saying is just a off already its really not difficult at all and it makes flashing roms so much easier and you'll never boot loop because of a PH98IMG again!
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Um I'd say so, what he's saying is just a off already its really not difficult at all and it makes flashing roms so much easier and you'll never boot loop because of a PH98IMG again!
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I know it is a simple task, except when you are a newbie and get errors you don't know how to fix because you have no idea what they means. I have tried so many times to s-off and always get errors (I don't even remember what they were). So I am still s-on, not because I choose to, but because it does not work for me. I am not very tecchie , I just know how to follow the instructions to root. So I unlocked, my bootloader, and am flashing different roms. But when the instructions are very generic, with the assumption that everyone knows the technical terms and process, some people like me stay behind and remain s-on, even though they would like to get s-off.
The instructions for s-off are as simple as I've ever seen something like this made. Totally step-by-step. You only have to run controlbear and follow the instructions. The only tough part is the wire trick, and they have a video showing exactly how to do it.
My biggest problem in doing it was the wire trick. I tried wire from cat5 and failed repeatedly. I ended up using a piece of coax and got it to work almost immediately.
I flashed CM9 and AOKP the same exact way as I would any other rom with S-ON. Wipe, flash, fast boot boot.img (I just use the resound all in one tool to flash the kernel because it has the built in commands)
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OK so I used the bootloader to flash the 3 option in Haus's thread and every thing is working. But....
Now on the bootloader screen it says locked tampered then S-off.
I was told the locked was just wat it was saying and didn't matter.
So do I have a locked boot loader? And does that even matter for anything or was it just required to get root plus S-off?
Did I mess up getting the newest hboot from the firmware? I was told I needed it to run meanbean.
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I'm not sure what u flashed but it sounds like you flashed the whole thing which means you have stock recovery now. Either fastboot flash recovery image or download thru goo manager.
Once you have a custom recovery installed your all set. Don't worry about the locked on your bootloader
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OK so I used the bootloader to flash the 3 option in Haus's thread and every thing is working. But....
Now on the bootloader screen it says locked tampered then S-off.
I was told the locked was just wat it was saying and didn't matter.
So do I have a locked boot loader? And does that even matter for anything or was it just required to get root plus S-off?
Did I mess up getting the newest hboot from the firmware? I was told I needed it to run meanbean.
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You should have flashed the first file the one with no kernel,hboot, or stock recovery that would have updated everything you needed to be updated
So did I mess anything up? I was able to flash mean bean without any issues.
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mainstang said:
So did I mess anything up? I was able to flash mean bean without any issues.
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No you just did the same as taking the OTA as far as I can tell. As long as everything is working you should be fine