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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
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I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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Ha that's funny.
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My phone is experienceing severe battery drain whenever i use an app.
i tried switching between the leedroid v5.4 and nonsense 3.1 roms but both had the same problem anyone know a fix.
BTW i did not overclock
What wasted the battery
WHen i check to see what used teh battery is shows
CELL STANDBY 54%
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WHen i check to see what used teh battery is shows
CELL STANDBY 54%
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I noticed that my phone does that when I am in a weak service area. The radios use a lot of juice trying to get/keep a signal. You could try Better Battery Stats or Bad Ass Battery Monitor to see in more detail what is using your battery.
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sgaheer said:
My phone is experienceing severe battery drain whenever i use an app.
i tried switching between the leedroid v5.4 and nonsense 3.1 roms but both had the same problem anyone know a fix.
BTW i did not overclock
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you can also try to calibrate your battery with serval apps! type in play store : battery calibration ! they all do the same job and preaty good i must say..
i recommend you to try : Battery Calibration free . thats for rooted users and does great job!
Alright Thanks
I sorta realised it was due to my connection as my school has a really bad reception and thats where teh majority ofteh drain occurred will download that app
My personal experience!!!!! Flame me not!!!!!!
Ok here goes:
I don't use any battery calibration apps or system tuner or task killer any more. I test my battery like I test my gas mileage: ALL THE FRIGGIN' TIME!
I've found I get better battery life without these extra apps. However, I also completely strip all ROM's I use of completely unnecessary apps and their respective widgets (HTC News, HTC News and Weather, Jetset Printer, Stocks, Twitter, Picasa, Google +, etc.)
Now, the only app I would recommend and have heard from multiple sources and threads is Better Battery Stats. It has a nominal fee, however, is worth it. I will show you what is draining your battery.
You could also have wake lock problems. Who knows? Get some diagnostic info to post to better help those trying to help you. Help me, to help you! LOL!
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My personal experience!!!!! Flame me not!!!!!!
Ok here goes:
I don't use any battery calibration apps or system tuner or task killer any more.
Now, the only app I would recommend and have heard from multiple sources and threads is Better Battery Stats. It has a nominal fee, however, is worth it. I will show you what is draining your battery.
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Flame on! Just kidding. I also have never calibrated my battery as it is useless according to the Android engineers at Google.
The reason I also recommend Bad Ass Battery Monitor is because it is a little more user friendly.
Also, there is an xda version of Better Battery Stats that is available in these forums for free, although the Market version is cheap and supports the dev.
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i have some problem, when my screen active, i put it to my pocket, then my body touch the screen and do random process abaout 45minutes.. done with 40% battery gone x_X.. i think u must tell us how long u use app
You can use battery calibration. you can find it in the android market
Have you tried reset battery stats then full charge, use it for a couple of minutes then full charge again? Don't know why it works but I have used this method on a couple of Roms and it seems to help
try clearing your battery stats full charge ur battery n then let it discharge fully then full charge once more n recalibrate it..should work
The main factor for preventing battery drains is to have a good modem that doesn't overheats the phone, using a ROM with deep sleep and a battery friendly kennel like Siyah or Fluxxi. Try to get those three things fixed and you should not have any more battery drains
Turn auto brightness off also make sure none of your apps are using your GPS all the time. I think the problem may be app related I would roll to a stock kernel and only use apps that are must need and see if that helps. Also your battery could be shot . How old is it ?
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Downloaded badass battery monitor and it showed mediaserver was wasting my battery, so I got rid of any possible corrupted media, problem solved for now
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hey, so i have ran pretty much every "jelly bean" rom out there for this phone for about 2-2.5 months. maybe less. note sure..
anyway, the battery has been horrible! on every rom.. I have a 2700 mAMP battery, and a regular Samsung battery. I have to use both once a day for this phone.. now I have no idea what is making the phone loose percentage after percentage of battery as fast as it has for me, but everytime i post i get about 0 luck from people that either have the same issue, or just people saying they have heard it a million times. i probably should have put this in the "Q&A" thread, but maybe i forgot. can someone, preferably more than one, help me out here?? i don't get how other people say they have 8 or more hours of screen on time with half the battery left. it just doesn't make since. I am loving the android system. but this could be anything! the apps in the background. the kernel, maybe I didn't clean my cache or something. i can't raise my brightness up to far or it'll drain my battery, jamie in the paranoid thread said he had his batter on 100 percent and had excellent battery. so I'm far from confused here. do I need to get another phone, or what. very much apprentice the help from as many people as possible. I love my phone, but I hate that i have to focus on using two battery a day with this phone.
Same here battery draining pretty quick on all jb ROMs.
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Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
to get better battery turn brightness to lowest usable setting, turn off sync for any non essential apps, turn off soft key lights, flash a kernel that lets you under volt and under clock, try different govonors and io schedulers, turn off gps, put in airplane mode when not using. these should help. keep in mind cell signal strength will also impact battery and 4g will kill it faster then 3g. i am on cm9 stable under clocked to 1.18 undervolt all by 25mv( not much change but i like to be safe) ondemand and sio and get amazing battery life.
What's your screen-on time? 4 hours is the close to the limit on ANY rom for our Notes. You have to make sure it's not some sort of confirmation bias going on here.
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Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
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thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
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thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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thank you so much! I will get right to this
I never got more then 2 hours screen on time on any ROM, just figured that was normal.
Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
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Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
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I'm in the same boat as manel, never gotten anywhere above 2h on screen time. Maybe additional 10m or so. Figured it was normal lol
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Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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(quoted)(Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens. )quoted)
I was not aware of this info....many thanks for the heads up...I always supposed that since the ram was consumed with applications, that those apps were pulling CPU usage from the device...
that is clearly not the case......g
Yep, no problem. If you go back to a touchwiz based ROM and go into the stock task manager, it shows you what's taking up RAM, as well as the CPU usage of each thing in the list. If the apps are working properly, pretty much everything will show very little to 0% CPU usage, and ones that are using it heavily will even be highlighted in yellow or red depending on their CPU usage %age. Unfortunately aosp based ROMs don't have that task manager, one of the things I miss from touchwiz.
Every time a non-techy friend buys a new android, it seems the overly aggressive sales rep that sold the phone to them 'helped' them get to know the phone and installed a task killer, specifically advanced task killer. I always just uninstall it without telling them and see how long it takes them to notice lol.
It's still useful in certain instances, for example if you have an app that doesn't run well but you still like/need to use, but in general practice android does a much better job of managing itself. Besides, if you have an app that you know runs poorly and hogs your processor in the background, but you still need to use it, with most aosp based ROMs you can set your phone so that long pressing the back button kills the current app, essentially making task killers useless.
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Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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This is true. What kind of signal strength do you get where you are at? Does your phone bounce back and forth to lte. I have noticed when i go from a strong signal to weaker signals or band switching a lot, my battery drains rapidly.
Use cpuspy, as mentioned, to verify you do see deep sleep. Also, i find if rooted, that seting the min speed to 192 helps quite a bit.
Hello
I'm sorry if this has been already asked before but I couldn't find it anywhere. What would you guys recommend as the best Jelly Bean ROM that will give me the longest battery life? I love the JB ROM that I'm using right now, but unfortunately it has got a horrible battery life. There are times where I will go through 3 full batteries in one day. I keep my screen brightness on auto and I don't really play games on my phone but I am a heavy user. I really value applications that use background data such as Gmail and Facebook and others so turning auto syncing is out of the question for me. I also use bluetooth a lot and stream pandora to my car radio for at least 1.5 hours a day. I'm looking for a ROM that can definitely get me through the day on one battery. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I don't think any rom will ever get the battery life you are asking for. With that kind of use, an extended battery is a must. Our phones (Hardware wise) will not do it.
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I just leave mine plugged into the charger when I'm in the car.
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Hello
I'm sorry if this has been already asked before but I couldn't find it anywhere. What would you guys recommend as the best Jelly Bean ROM that will give me the longest battery life? I love the JB ROM that I'm using right now, but unfortunately it has got a horrible battery life. There are times where I will go through 3 full batteries in one day. I keep my screen brightness on auto and I don't really play games on my phone but I am a heavy user. I really value applications that use background data such as Gmail and Facebook and others so turning auto syncing is out of the question for me. I also use bluetooth a lot and stream pandora to my car radio for at least 1.5 hours a day. I'm looking for a ROM that can definitely get me through the day on one battery. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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That's not going to happen... Why wouldn't you plug it in when you're using it in the car?
Its not going to happen. You have to take people battery screenshots with a grain of salt. They have WiFi on and basically don't touch their phone. They have nothing syncing. I use neo infected ROM and while at work I mostly only use it to do fb texting and surf xda. I can have 40% battery left after about 12. During that time the usage is 2 10 min breaks and 40 min lunch. With maybe checking a few times an hr to see if the wife has texted me. So that's not real good life as that's light usage.
Like I have told people you have to choose what's more important battery life or using your phone like its was intended to be used.
This is just like a truck forum when people posts how can I get better gas mileage out of my v8. There's no such thing. I tell them want great gas mileage then buy a 4 banger econo box. Same goes for this Want great battery life get a dumb phone. Gotta pay to play.
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One thing I noticed that did help that is not a placebo is a good auto brightness app. I use YAAB. It works wonders.
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Dark Jedi said:
Its not going to happen. You have to take people battery screenshots with a grain of salt. They have WiFi on and basically don't touch their phone. They have nothing syncing. I use neo infected ROM and while at work I mostly only use it to do fb texting and surf xda. I can have 40% battery left after about 12. During that time the usage is 2 10 min breaks and 40 min lunch. With maybe checking a few times an hr to see if the wife has texted me. So that's not real good life as that's light usage.
Like I have told people you have to choose what's more important battery life or using your phone like its was intended to be used.
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I'm on Infected 2.6 and I'm surprised at how good the battery life has been. At least, relative to other versions or ROMs. I unplugged it at midnight 2 nights ago and with light usage like you describe, I'm at 19% right now. 4G on, wi-fi off, background sync of 2 gmail accounts, Evernote and Facebook, light txting and about 2-3 phone calls.
I agree with your idea of using the phone like it's intended to be used though. If I get a full day on a charge, I'm happy.
2.7 is out now.
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Yeah, get an extended battery. lol. This phone is a battery pacman regardless what ROM or what version of Android you are using. I never use Auto brightness. I just keep it down super low indoors then if I really need it I turn it up a bit outside. My phone stays on the chargers inside and out most of the time. No extended battery will last you all day at heavy use......
Hello the battery of my Note 8 was not that Great (4:30 Hours SOT) So I found a solution to battery issues and found a great solution.
1- From Setting Turn off :
Near By Device Scanning
Find My Mobile
Smart Capture
Direct Call
Those Sensors REALLY drains the battery and minimize screen on time.
2- Lower down the resolution to FHD Its not as bad as you think. (I am not sure if this saved my battery life but try it).
3- Delete Facebook Official App (or disable it) and install this App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nam.fbwrapper&hl=en
4- Delete Facebook messanger and install facebook messenger (Lite)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.mlite&hl=en
5- Disable The Edge Panel (Turn it off, The Edge panel is useful I know but it drains the battery so much and you can live without it with alternatives)
6- Go To App Permission from setting ---> Check the permissions to use location and turn off any app you do not want it to use your location.
7- Put Brightness should be just below the warning level (80%)
Now Check These steps please and Get back to me.
Before these steps on Wifi I used to get 4:30 SOT Now I get 6:15-6:30 Hours of SOT.
Note :
Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
We left home at same time, my wife's IP7P got 80% battery remained, mine is 30%.
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Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
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LMAO!! I guess I am a little insensitive to this as well. With quick charge , wireless quickcharge and what not I have never really worried to much about the battery life. I dont find the logic in buying an almost 1000 dollar phone full of features to then turn them all off and not use them. I would save the money and just get a Moto phone or an older LG if I was that worried.
Kinda like me complaining about my MSI gaming laptop only lasting 1.4 hours while playing Doom at ultra settings.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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I completely agree with you.
Three years ago i tested a guide from a guy that recommended using a combination of Greenify, Amplify and Power Nap. I did, and somehow i always responded late to messages, and my alarm would randomly wake me up 2 hours later than it's supposed to. Yes i had like 0.5% battery usage during night, 6h screen time, 48h battery life, but the phone wasnt doing anything the moment i put it on my pocket. Did i achieve anything, not really, i just learned the lesson that i stopped my phone from doing what it was supposed to do, and somehow created an anxiety if im missing out, checking my phone every 10 minutes if there was something that is not showing up.
Although, the original poster clearly stated i'd lose that functionality. The moment we twiddle around, it's always trial and error.
Ironically, i made a thread today on the General Android section for literary the same thing.
Battery life in this device is far from what it should be. Literary no recommendation around here proved any success for me. I factory reset twice, i reset all the app permissions, and i just recently rooted to make use of Greenify and similar apps, and im not gaining anything, literary nothing. In fact, this is the first time that rooting doesnt seem feasable, all the ad-blocking software that use root, somehow are useless compared to SABS, and now i wont ever be able to use it.
Every night i sleep with a 90-95% phone, and wake up with a 80-85% respectively, AOD is usually off at that time, and no battery statistics app seems to bloody see how the hell that 10% came to happen.
Never do i have brightness over 35-40%, AoD is scheduled, BLF is schduled (technically, this should add to saving), many apps are on either Samsungs Device Maintenance in always sleep mode, and those that are on the unmonitored ones never make a 5-10% combined daily. I do have the display to max resolution, cause hey, i've bought a device that has that resolution, if i was happy with 720p, id go with a 720p phone.
To whoever gets 4h SoT with 24h battery life, LUCKY BASTARD.
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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In case of this subject, I wouldn't say U are sarcastic - rather a mindopen consciousness user of high-end device ?
And I won't even use my sarcasm as I do enough of that dealing with users 'here and there' (I can assure it would be even more rough). I would fully understand purpose of sharing those so called 'tips&tricks' if there was something really improving the battery life or a list of unnececcery apps/services with some usage stats as a proof (I guess no need to say how many of such Samsung put on their flagships)... But taking 4-point list is like a joke and I honestly threat this thread as such.
My tip for OP - buy a car battery and adopt it for charging ur device will improve ur battery a mile?
With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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Sir, with all respect for OP and U, what kind of usuful 'tips&tricks' are here?? Then just please read few ROM threads and see what kind of bull**** is published without even reading an instructions on BASIC CUSTOM DEVELOPMENT USER. This thread is like a place, from where later some totally crazy issues and demands are born. There is Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and more, where this kind of show-off has it place, thx and sorry if U feel hurt :good:
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is especially helpful to the community. We should be encouraging thoughtful dialogue, not discouraging it.
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
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Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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I have tried this with QHD. 70% Brightness and its really Good.
Bear in mind this is on Wifi.
The only extreme thing is 720p admittly.
But I switched to QHD Battery is still a beast.
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is very helpful to the community.
Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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No prob.
I think i tweaked things up instead of using 720p I am using WQHD 70 PERCENT Brightness. I am not seeing much loss 2.30 Hours SOT at 63 percent is pretty Good.
There are a lot of useless features turned off like edge panel,direct call,near by device scanning. And installing alternative facebook apps really solved all issues.
Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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We are debating, that's what we're here for, some learn, some debate, that does not mean i don't acknowledge OP's efforts, just cause i don't agree with them does not make him a target, i clearly expressed that many of the tips are out of the question for most of the users.
I stood corrected in this place more than once, rather than pulling pride out, i chose to learn.
You really should sharpen up your standards about "*****ing and moaning", and maybe add some useful input we all could learn from.
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Yeah i tried the Lite's too, while Messenger is ok, the FB app itself felt like opening the Facebook page from my Symbian Nokia on 2005, that's time travel right there. Some people even use FB on Browsers...
I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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Oh YES! This is my heavy usage, and this is my moderate one, and i am not conservative at all in display resolution and stuff. Some people seem to get a lot better results however, but this is more then enough for me, even though i do a lot of tweaking here and there.
The biggest factory to battery life is your signal strength. If you have a ****ty carrier or you live in an area where the signal is weak you will have worse battery life then someone living in a city with a carrier like Verizon.
Also for the ultimate battery life turn your phone off at all times. Only turn it on when u need to make a call. Lasts days