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Hey guys, seriously, I am really a fan of Sony or SE stuff. Got an Arc, an Arc S afterwards and now an additional Sony Tablet S. Latter worked so well until I did this stupid ICS update, the official one.
My tablet was rooted before, of course I lost that. That's not the problem, but I cannot use my tablet anymore. It is very slow, crashed quite often, loses its icons, i.e. it replaces the original icons with the android icon...and so on.
I tried to read all the topics here about ICS and official updates bla bla bla...
I just got one simple question:
Is there any ICS available which is working properly, with root access??? It should just be as stable as Honeycomb was.
I don't wanna own a tablet but not using it...and right now, I am quite depressed!
Thanks in advance for your help.
There's nothing you can do about replacing your firmware at the moment as our ics is not rootable.
If you haven't already, you should try doing a factory data reset. Clean things up and start again. My tab is very stable.
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No offence at all - I think that's the price paid for rooting. I have no problem at all with my tablet s that is not rooted before and affer the upgrade to ICS.
Yeah, rooting this tab is still playing with fire.. There's so many bricked tabs and other troubles that makes me not to root it for now.. And I'm not the dummy user, I have rooted all my other devices but not this one cause I don't get much confidence in the current process
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JMS74 said:
Yeah, rooting this tab is still playing with fire.. There's so many bricked tabs and other troubles that makes me not to root it for now.. And I'm not the dummy user, I have rooted all my other devices but not this one cause I don't get much confidence in the current process
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Same here. My HC 3.2.1r2 tablet is rooted, but I'm now not sure I should've. It seems less stable and I certainly won't be upgrading to ICS until we get some more stability out of it.
Hi,
I have just got the Xperia U for the wife and was wondering if its worth 'upgrading' it to ICS before giving it to her.
It has to be stable, and quick. She is coming from a Galaxy ace so I know this phone will feel quicker straight away cus its better spec'd. I just dont know if its worth keeping it on gingerbread cus she will NOT be flashing custom roms like the majority of us do on here.!!!!
What do youse think I should do?
I had to do this recently for my mum.
Flash the C firmware, root it and add cwm.
Delete all the pointless apps, delete the boot and shutdown animations from t mobile. Flash the 4.7.2 camera mod and status bar toggles. It seems really nice to use so far! She's not compained about anything so far with it
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thanks! this is a great little phone. nice and user friendly. kinda wanted to keep it stock for her tho, cus the more i change the more likely im guna grab the phone off her and check it for kernel updates etc. !
I do like the idea of removing all the junk software that lots of branded phones come with. But the one i got her is already unlocked and doesnt come with a lot of bloat as standard.
maybe i should of asked, shall i keep this phone Stock Gingerbread, or stock ICS?
Technically what I said is still stock ics, it just removes the junk to make the phone smoother and faster
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Ben36 said:
Technically what I said is still stock ics, it just removes the junk to make the phone smoother and faster
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ah i didnt realise the C firmware u mentioned was stock ICS t-mobile, i understand now. thanks m8
Yea. It's the latest firmware. But the only available version is branded t mobile, hence the root and removing like i did. Then its just a plain rom again
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ICS is loads quicker, I put on the b54 one I think it was as its generic, then I just rooted and removed some of the junk and it runs well, loads better than GB.
Ben36 said:
I had to do this recently for my mum.
Flash the C firmware, root it and add cwm.
Delete all the pointless apps, delete the boot and shutdown animations from t mobile. Flash the 4.7.2 camera mod and status bar toggles. It seems really nice to use so far! She's not compained about anything so far with it
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Or just flash my generic nordic ftf which is pretty bloatfree, just a hint to OP.
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You should go for ICS, it's quite smooth and easy to use. Also install one of those apps that makes the transparent bar work as notification light.
Yeah.. you should go with the ICS...
Having this same thought, for my gf that recently got an Xperia U.
The thing is, it works fine for her now. Would it be oh so much better for her to upgrade to ICS.
It at least needs to be just as snappy as Gingerbread and I'm reading quite some negative reviews about the ICS update. Less snappy and everything. Confusing reviews as you all here are very positive about the ICS update.
But you can hear it coming already if ICS makes it slower "Sweety, you made my phone slow!!!"
Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
Pharmbob said:
Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)
just thinking if it's worth over stock. thanks
mrjayviper said:
just thinking if it's worth over stock. thanks
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An explanation as to why is better on the XTZ would be great. I've ran CM on almost all of my devices but I just don't really see any benefit to unlocking and putting CM or PAC on the XTZ.
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Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
CM, PAC etc. -> no GPS, no MHL/HDMI, no Small Apps, no inbuilt IR Blaster + remote.
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Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
CM, PAC etc. -> no GPS, no MHL/HDMI, no Small Apps, no inbuilt IR Blaster + remote.
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I've gone through all of the projects that I've seen over in the original development forum hoping for something to prove me otherwise, but the fact of the matter is that we've both come to the same conclusion.
Go to any rom that uses the phablet UI and the first thing I do is look for PIE. If it isn't an option, I switch over to the play store and download full!screen...
SmallApps (and the convenient shortcut) are huge. They're incredibly useful and the implementation is spot on. Get a few other smallapps from the play store, toy around with Aroma a little bit and you've got endless small apps.
CM, PAC etc --> No GPS. - Yup. A headache you bring on yourself. Fortunately there are ways to deal with it...
Tablet: (GPS over Bluetooth) ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saenko.GpsOverBt&hl=en )
Phone: External GPS Receiver ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meowsbox.btgps&hl=en )
No IR Blaster / Remote is loss that seems minor when you're giving it up, but that you wish you had as soon as your're on a custom rom.
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Don't get me wrong I love poking around and hoping to stumble upon some quality FOSS but, as far as ROMs are concerned, switching to anything besides 4.1.2 (exception with Ubuntu Touch since I haven't managed to get it going yet) is really a sacrifice in UX for what you think you want from a UI... until you realize that at 10 inches, you don't want a phone's UI.
zylstrajs said:
I've gone through all of the projects that I've seen over in the original development forum hoping for something to prove me otherwise, but the fact of the matter is that we've both come to the same conclusion.
Go to any rom that uses the phablet UI and the first thing I do is look for PIE. If it isn't an option, I switch over to the play store and download full!screen...
SmallApps (and the convenient shortcut) are huge. They're incredibly useful and the implementation is spot on. Get a few other smallapps from the play store, toy around with Aroma a little bit and you've got endless small apps.
CM, PAC etc --> No GPS. - Yup. A headache you bring on yourself. Fortunately there are ways to deal with it...
Tablet: (GPS over Bluetooth) ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saenko.GpsOverBt&hl=en )
Phone: External GPS Receiver ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meowsbox.btgps&hl=en )
No IR Blaster / Remote is loss that seems minor when you're giving it up, but that you wish you had as soon as your're on a custom rom.
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Don't get me wrong I love poking around and hoping to stumble upon some quality FOSS but, as far as ROMs are concerned, switching to anything besides 4.1.2 (exception with Ubuntu Touch since I haven't managed to get it going yet) is really a sacrifice in UX for what you think you want from a UI... until you realize that at 10 inches, you don't want a phone's UI.
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Best solution for choosing ROM:
- Backup your TA partition with "Backup TA"
- unlock bootloader
- backup your current rom with CWM
- try some roms for your self! Everyone uses his device a little different
- stay on the rom that suits you or restore your stock rom in cwm. You also need to flash the stock ftf again but exclude everything beside kernel.
- if you want warranty back restore your TA backup
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hasenbein1966 said:
Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
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I totally agree with you.
I am going to try to go back to 4.1.2. Though I have no experience flashing the Xperia Tablet Z (I have the LTE version).
Main problem with 4.1.2: Microphone not working properly. Any known solutions, without going to 4.2.2?
I personally switched to cm10.2 since I want multi user on the tablet so no way with stock 4.1.2 (4.2.2 is still not available for sgp311)
in cm you can use tsremote from app&themes forum here from xda: not good as Sony remote but looks very promising complete with a floating remote
om22 said:
Best solution for choosing ROM:
- Backup your TA partition with "Backup TA"
- unlock bootloader
- backup your current rom with CWM
- try some roms for your self! Everyone uses his device a little different
- stay on the rom that suits you or restore your stock rom in cwm. You also need to flash the stock ftf again but exclude everything beside kernel.
- if you want warranty back restore your TA backup
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Hold the phone, the way I understand it is there is NO way to get your warranty back once you've unlocked your BL because Sony revokes it once you enter all your info to unlock. I understand you can go completely back to stock if you back up the TA but I thought you could never get your warranty back after unlocking.
There was a BL unlock for some of the '11 devices that kept you from having to use Sony's method of unlocking but I haven't been able to find one for the XTZ.
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I have cm10.2 on my TF700 and don't mind the phone UI. Don't care for not being too connecT to my tv either.and I often watch on my tablet so ir blaster is useless to me.
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Hold the phone, the way I understand it is there is NO way to get your warranty back once you've unlocked your BL because Sony revokes it once you enter all your info to unlock. I understand you can go completely back to stock if you back up the TA but I thought you could never get your warranty back after unlocking.
There was a BL unlock for some of the '11 devices that kept you from having to use Sony's method of unlocking but I haven't been able to find one for the XTZ.
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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Sony says they MAY charge additional fees if unlocked, I think they would do only if additional work has to be done to go back to stock as they suppose the tablet works correctly only with their firmware. Same thing happened to me with an HTC phone but they have not either seen the phone was not stock
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Riekr said:
Sony says they MAY charge additional fees if unlocked, I think they would do only if additional work has to be done to go back to stock as they suppose the tablet works correctly only with their firmware. Same thing happened to me with an HTC phone but they have not either seen the phone was not stock
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The way I understand it, from reading their terms and from other peoples posts, is that whatever happens if you unlock you completely lose your warranty.
Are you saying that this is not true?
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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From my reading the terms and reading other peoples posts that's the way it seems, however there is contradictory information on it so let's see what the community has to say.
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I would say that the policy in place because of things which can arise as a result of the bootloader being unlocked, for example if the user installed a custom ROM, overclocked the device and the CPU burned out then it's the users fault and Sony shouldn't have to cover it. If the USB slot cover tears/falls off after 2 months of ownership it's clearly not related to the BL being unlocked and it would, from a PR point of view look bad if they denied warranty cover.
I'd say they would fix anything, but unlocking BL would incur additional costs because of the extra work involved (reflashing a factory image, changing the logic boards if it gets stuck in a boot loop, etc.)
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if the big warning and loss of warranty would be a deterrent to stop people from unlocking the BL and changing the ROM altogether
OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
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That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
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i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
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Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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LordManhattan said:
Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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Fair enough I've found a few and also a few that won't install I've looked for a stock camera apk and a few others I couldn't get to install without root.
I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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Yea couldn't find a camera apk but I do have the others but did have to find an older movies apk that would actually work. My situation is that I was looking forward to trying xperia out but also wanted the 6806 model but came across a great deal for the gpe and forgot that it wouldn't have xperia on it.
Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
kipue said:
Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
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I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
manigma said:
I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
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Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
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I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
kipue said:
Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
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I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
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There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
manigma said:
There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
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Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
kipue said:
Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
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If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
blueether said:
If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
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My research pointed to that too, those DRM keys are actually pretty limited in scope (for me).
The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine, since that affects the phone in a more general way. But as I read, if unlocking the bootloader when on official Kitkat, the keys are no longer affected.
Well, I guess better safe than sorry, and I'll try to backup the TA partition anyway ^^
kipue said:
The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine
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Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
LordManhattan said:
Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
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Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
kipue said:
Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
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Ahh, I see. Well, I guess you're free to do whatever you feel like then
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