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Hi, my phone's music lags and stutters very frequently when I multitask. For example, if I am playing some music while I am downloading an app from the market or surfing the web, my music tends to start stuttering. It is quite annoying. I am guessing it is due to the lack of RAM but I am not 100% sure. Also, if I multitask, sometimes my entire phone starts to lag too. I have had this issue on Gingerbread, ICS and now Jellybean too. I think I may have had it on Froyo as well. Can anyone help me in solving this problem? Thanks.
What app? Which jb ROM ( just curious).
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I have tried a whole bunch of music players, but my fav is Google Play Music. I was on SlimBean, which was really good, but I cant handle the music lag issue. (Im almost certain that issue has been on every rom ive tried.) Im back to stock eclair now, and the music lag issue is gone. I think the music lag issue is not on google stock updates. But now on stock, the phone itself gets quite laggy. -.- I think Ive also had the music lag issue on GB and Froyo, but less. GB and Froyo were also a lot more laggy on the whole for me compared to ICS and JB. Any ideas about what I can do?
I usually get 150-200 Mb of free ram maybe because of this my phone never lags ......not even once btw I use google music along with beats audio ......I use only ics roms as these are better than froyo
I'd like to know how you get that. Tell me your settings please? And I have also gotten the music lag issue on ICS too. And I also usually use Google play music. I use an apk of course because I don't live in the states.
There are no setting actually I never use the apps which run in the background like google maps ...............I use iczen which has 380 mb of available ram and always use go taskmanager it uses very less ram and is very effective in clearing running apps ...........I usually have 10 apps installed in my phone .....other apps which I require I will do a backup of its apk and install it whenever required and after using I will remove it .....use apex launcher consumes less ram ......I always keep my data connection on and rest I will switch off including vibrations and keysounds.......... Whichever stock apps I dont use I will delete it off using titanium backup.......since we use ics on our old 512 mb ram vibrant these are must to experience no lag
Hmm I'm on jellybean and I have about 390 mb RAM but when I download on Google store the available ram is very low. I have to keep clearing my running apps. I did try go task manager but that thing takes up 30 mb of ram itself so I found it useless. Now I just use the manage apps in settings and I fc any running apps I don't need. I dunno if it'll help but I'm trying right now
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go task manager uses 10 MB. On my phone that's all .........switch off all animations ...I have tried nearly 6 ics roms in all roms I get more than 150 MB available ram! !!!...btw I never use Google maps as I have sygic navigation .......Google maps all the time will be running in background..............u can also use ram booster looks awsome and even this consumes 15 MB of ram that's it ......here is the link .... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.rambooster&hl=en
I used to use that but it took up over 20 mb of RAM for me. GO Task manager used even more, at 30 MB for me lol. I just dont use any task managers. I go manually close apps when I hit Manage Apps > Running. FB is annoying because it takes up about 10 - 15, and you are correct, Google Maps takes up a lot of RAM (for me sometimes over 30 MB, tho normally is around 14 MB) Anyway, I like Google Maps so I just stick with it. Ive tried going into dev options and setting the min background process to 2, and kill when leaving the app, as well as kill app with back button. Im getting 180 MB now, but as soon as I use the browser with music or download apps with music (DL apps with music sucks up wayyy too much RAM and then my phone starts getting choppy), it starts to laaaaagggg. oh well. Funny, this never happened to me on stock lol. stock homescreen lagged like hell, but no lag anywhere else haha. stock is just ugly though, which is why im on JB.
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I used to use that but it took up over 20 mb of RAM for me. GO Task manager used even more, at 30 MB for me lol. I just dont use any task managers. I go manually close apps when I hit Manage Apps > Running. FB is annoying because it takes up about 10 - 15, and you are correct, Google Maps takes up a lot of RAM (for me sometimes over 30 MB, tho normally is around 14 MB) Anyway, I like Google Maps so I just stick with it. Ive tried going into dev options and setting the min background process to 2, and kill when leaving the app, as well as kill app with back button. Im getting 180 MB now, but as soon as I use the browser with music or download apps with music (DL apps with music sucks up wayyy too much RAM and then my phone starts getting choppy), it starts to laaaaagggg. oh well. Funny, this never happened to me on stock lol. stock homescreen lagged like hell, but no lag anywhere else haha. stock is just ugly though, which is why im on JB.
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among all the roms i have used remics ux and iczen uses least ram .......try these ics roms and u dont have any options other than that:laugh:
Is your music on an sd card or on the phone? it used to stutter a lot when I had it on the sd but when I moved it all to the phone it was perfectly fine.
just something that sounds like my issue before.
I was on ICSzen, however, i extremely disliked the new green theme. it was good on battery life, like SlimICS, but ICS roms all lagged, so Im on JB now. Also that Encryption Unsuccessful bug has made me wary of ICS. If I do get on ICS, I will not be able to get to JB (from what I've heard), so that is kind of an issue for me. I'm on SlimBean v2.1 right now with Semaphore v2.0.7sv, and my phone runs like the wind. RAM is better, thanks to the kernel and with SlimBean's BigMem configuration. The music lag issue is a bit better, although I haven't tried anything too crazy yet LOL. Gonna use for a while and see.
The way my GP 4.0 works is odd...It's as if after every reboot, the player has a certain amount of fuel (and no I'm not referring to the battery). After usage, that fuel gets burned down and the player starts running sluggishly and eventually either freezes up and forces me to do a forced shut down or it reboots itself. I usually can't keep the thing on without a reboot for longer than 3 days. It's not a major issue, but it makes playing games rough because sometimes in the middle of a game, the player just freezes up and reboots. The battery typically never goes beyond 100 degrees F, unless I'm in a hot car or something.
Anyone else got this problem? Any suggestions? I've heard of something called Lagfix that does something like trimming or something of the sort...Yeah, noob here. Would that fix me up? Running gingerbread 2.3.5 stock rom and kernel.
How many apps do you have installed and how many are running in the background?
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iurnait said:
How many apps do you have installed and how many are running in the background?
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I have a lot installed. Not many are running in the background...I mean I froze the maps app so that it can't run. I have lookout, a CPU status widget, yahoo mail, textplus, adwlauncher, rootdim, and my battery indicator. That is, according to the running services in the settings. Any ideas?
What's using the most ram?
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What's using the most ram?
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Well according to the running services tab in the settings, it's lookout and adwlauncher. I had the problem before adelauncher though....Is my device just faulty? :/
try a factory reset and dont install anything after.
if it doesnt seem to hang, reinstall your apps slowly, one by one to see which one is causing the problem
Your player is using to much ram so it's going to restart. Use the task manager to kill any app you aren't using.
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Your player is using to much ram so it's going to restart. Use the task manager to kill any app you aren't using.
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2 problems with that. 1. in the task manager, no tasks are seen running. I almost always have around 70 mb of ram free no matter what. 2. if I use a task killer (such as advanced task killer), I can kill apps that are running (such as the ebay app...Not sure why that even runs in background), but they come back on within seconds....do I just need to uninstall apps?
I will suggest you try using advance task manager to monitor your applications, rather then the system's task manager.
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I will suggest you try using advance task manager to monitor your applications, rather then the system's task manager.
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But when I kill a task in advanced task killer to kill unwanted running apps, they come back on after like 5 seconds. However, these are apps that I'd like to have installed, such as ebay, weather, and youtube. Do you suggest just uninstalling as many as possible?
I would do a complete reset and then slowly install your apps. This way u can see what is causing the problem.
And don't install unecassary apps
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WHib96 said:
2 problems with that. 1. in the task manager, no tasks are seen running. I almost always have around 70 mb of ram free no matter what. 2. if I use a task killer (such as advanced task killer), I can kill apps that are running (such as the ebay app...Not sure why that even runs in background), but they come back on within seconds....do I just need to uninstall apps?
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Are you using a custom rom? You shouldn't have 70mb all the time. You should have at least 162mb when it just starts booting up, and then 100mb- 120mb when using it. ADW Launcher is kinda heavy on memory. Try Holo Launcher or one that doesn't use a ton of ram. I remember on mine it was Go Launcher using too much ram, and it was causing it to stutter. Also I suggest uninstall (or just doing a complete restore) some of the apps. Our players suck with managing ram imo lol.
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Are you using a custom rom? You shouldn't have 70mb all the time. You should have at least 162mb when it just starts booting up, and then 100mb- 120mb when using it. ADW Launcher is kinda heavy on memory. Try Holo Launcher or one that doesn't use a ton of ram. I remember on mine it was Go Launcher using too much ram, and it was causing it to stutter. Also I suggest uninstall (or just doing a complete restore) some of the apps. Our players suck with managing ram imo lol.
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Stock rom and stock kernel. Would custom ones be better?
I do get the around 160 mb of ram when booting up. Actually, I do have around 90 mb of ram available after the boot up. Well, the thing is, is that adwlauncher has almost made it all better. It just runs so much smoother than touchwiz and i like it a lot. However, I can try another I suppose. Well that sucks. Should I start using a task killer and having it auto kill or something? I mean I don't really wanna uninstall youtube, or ebay, but I guess I could uninstall some other stuff.
Okay, so last night I uninstalled some apps that according to advanced task killer were running in the background. I've also uninstalled Lookout just to free up some more ram. now I get about 90-100 mb of ram when idle, and things are working all right for now. I'll report how it performs after a day or two...It's just a shame that the galaxy player has so little ram that I'm forced to uninstall some apps that won't even give me the option to stop them from running the background.
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Okay, so last night I uninstalled some apps that according to advanced task killer were running in the background. I've also uninstalled Lookout just to free up some more ram. now I get about 90-100 mb of ram when idle, and things are working all right for now. I'll report how it performs after a day or two...It's just a shame that the galaxy player has so little ram that I'm forced to uninstall some apps that won't even give me the option to stop them from running the background.
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Custom Kernels, and roms help the player a lot imo. I would at least flash a custom kernel, because it boots the total ram from 342 to 352mb. Yeah I think that since you have a lot of apps installed it is bogging down the player. Uninstall the apps you don't need, or rarely use. I know I wished samsung would have properly upgraded our players. Instead we got the 3.6, and 4.2 which do some things better, but other things worse. They made the 5.8 but to me it's not worth the money.
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Custom Kernels, and roms help the player a lot imo. I would at least flash a custom kernel, because it boots the total ram from 342 to 352mb. Yeah I think that since you have a lot of apps installed it is bogging down the player. Uninstall the apps you don't need, or rarely use. I know I wished samsung would have properly upgraded our players. Instead we got the 3.6, and 4.2 which do some things better, but other things worse. They made the 5.8 but to me it's not worth the money.
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Okay so unfortunately, I just got another crash/reboot. I was playing Draw something with my sister when suddenly it began to hang for about 4 seconds and then just reboot. This is the normal crash I used to get, and always get after about 3 days of having the thing on and using it. I had plenty of open ram when this happened. before I opened draw something, I had about 100 mb of ram.
Uninstalling apps has cut down on the amount of lag and hangs I get, but I still get this stupid reboot deal after a while...Is there any way to make this stop? I mean I could just do a factory reset, but I almost don't even think it's worth having to redo everything just to fix rebooting once every 2 or 3 days.
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Okay so unfortunately, I just got another crash/reboot. I was playing Draw something with my sister when suddenly it began to hang for about 4 seconds and then just reboot. This is the normal crash I used to get, and always get after about 3 days of having the thing on and using it. I had plenty of open ram when this happened. before I opened draw something, I had about 100 mb of ram.
Uninstalling apps has cut down on the amount of lag and hangs I get, but I still get this stupid reboot deal after a while...Is there any way to make this stop? I mean I could just do a factory reset, but I almost don't even think it's worth having to redo everything just to fix rebooting once every 2 or 3 days.
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If your galaxy player is rooted I would try installing a custom kernel and see what happens. Because 1) It gives you the ability to overclock to 1.2 ghz (If you buy tegrak or set cpu you can overclock to 1.3 or even 1.5ghz). This helps with lag and memory issues from my experience, and 2) You can make a backup of your files on your device using ClockWorkMod, so you don't have to redo everything if factory resetting doesn't work.
But most likely I think you are going to have to just do a factory reset. Usually that fixes the memory problem since it resets everything on the player. But be warned flashing kernels and roms does void your warranty and can mess up your player if not done right. However, there's tons of tutorials on how to do it. If you like it stock, , iJimaniac has made a custom rom called R.E.D.D it uses the stock kernel with a modified version of the stock rom.
Also do you mind taking a screenshot or picture of your taskmanger and apps?
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If your galaxy player is rooted I would try installing a custom kernel and see what happens. Because 1) It gives you the ability to overclock to 1.2 ghz (If you buy tegrak or set cpu you can overclock to 1.3 or even 1.5ghz). This helps with lag and memory issues from my experience, and 2) You can make a backup of your files on your device using ClockWorkMod, so you don't have to redo everything if factory resetting doesn't work.
But most likely I think you are going to have to just do a factory reset. Usually that fixes the memory problem since it resets everything on the player. But be warned flashing kernels and roms does void your warranty and can mess up your player if not done right. However, there's tons of tutorials on how to do it. If you like it stock, , iJimaniac has made a custom rom called R.E.D.D it uses the stock kernel with a modified version of the stock rom.
Also do you mind taking a screenshot or picture of your taskmanger and apps?
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It is indeed rooted. However, can't I already overclock to 1.2 ghz? I mean I have tegrak and it lets me overclock to that already. I don't even mind the CPU speed now, it's just the random reboots I get that bother me. And if it needs to be said, I really cannot remember if my player has always done this...
So unless flashing a kernel or rom is actually gonna make my player run smoother (I've heard that stock stuff runs smoothest because it's made for that specific device), I don't really see a need to do it. I'm perfectly fine with the way it is stock...Just not fine with the occasional bits of lag I get (temple run is basically not playable on my player, because even the slightest hang will screw you up) and the stupid reboots.
Sure. You want a screenshot of advanced task killer open (showing all the apps that are currently running)? As for apps, how do you want me to get a picture of all those? It'd take several pictures because I'd have to scroll through the apps list and take multiple pictures.
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It is indeed rooted. However, can't I already overclock to 1.2 ghz? I mean I have tegrak and it lets me overclock to that already. I don't even mind the CPU speed now, it's just the random reboots I get that bother me. And if it needs to be said, I really cannot remember if my player has always done this...
So unless flashing a kernel or rom is actually gonna make my player run smoother (I've heard that stock stuff runs smoothest because it's made for that specific device), I don't really see a need to do it. I'm perfectly fine with the way it is stock...Just not fine with the occasional bits of lag I get (temple run is basically not playable on my player, because even the slightest hang will screw you up) and the stupid reboots.
Sure. You want a screenshot of advanced task killer open (showing all the apps that are currently running)? As for apps, how do you want me to get a picture of all those? It'd take several pictures because I'd have to scroll through the apps list and take multiple pictures.
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Yes about the pictures, but like I said the kernel does give you more ram so it should help. But According to iJimaniac that his rom has less bugs than stock lol.
Go and read his rom thread to get an idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2123715
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Yes about the pictures, but like I said the kernel does give you more ram so it should help. But According to iJimaniac that his rom has less bugs than stock lol.
Go and read his rom thread to get an idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2123715
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Some pictures...Sorry about the superuser permission box. But hey, it's a free app so whatever. If you need to know what's underneath it in any of the pictures, let me know and I'll find out and tell you.
I'm running B 0.8.4 Rom by BlaY0 on my HTC Legend for so long.
It is a very good Rom with no problem at all.
I want to change it to Android 4 ! but there are plenty of them here, each of them has some issues,
Could you please introduce the best STABLE Rom which its Android version is 4 or upper for HTC Legend?
Thank you in advance
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
What you probably should look at is, what base do those "other roms" use, I think you will find more often than not they are based on zeubea's roms anyway, with some tweaks here and there. The op really should tell you in the thread so just have a read...
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What applications can I remove without having any problems? the gps does not work. do you know help me?
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I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
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GPS problems:
You need to edit /system/etc/gps.conf
Use a root explorer like Root Browser to go to that file, and open with RB text editor. Or better yet, copy it to your computer and edit it there.
Change the file so it contains the information found here http://www.modaco.com/topic/331446-mod-all-roms-gps-fix/
Remove the # from the NTP_SERVER closest to where you live. If you want to add more servers you can look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200089
Removing apps:
If you have Link2SD (and you should!!!) you can try freezing stuff for a few days and then if nothing goes wrong, delete it.
As for what to delete, certainly the stock mail program, the CM file browser (USELESS), music app... I sorted by size and deleted anything that didn't sound useful / critical. I also deleted the AOSP keyboard. It's good but doesn't have Chinese which is a must for me. I just installed another keyboard from Play. If you delete those few things your system space will free up a bit and be more than enough to give it some breathing room. I'm not sure you need more than 20-30 MB free (or any free at all, I'm kinda talking out my ass a bit haha). But it seems to stand to reason that system apps need room to store data, cache, etc., and if they don't things will get choked up real quick.
What does matter is freezing useless apps and utilities that load automatically and sit in RAM. Legend RAM is very limited and while it's true that unused RAM is wasted RAM and that task killers are worse than useless, having stuff load automatically and keep themselves in RAM is just taking up space for useful apps that will use that RAM, without question.
That said anyone with a better understanding is more than welcome to jump in!
Don't talk to me about gps my threads on the topic are enough. Basically gps either works or it doesn't, if it doesn't your out of luck my friend!
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I noticed that my RAZR XT910 had become very slow after some time. I am using the UK jellybean firmware. Recently I had a problem that was only resolved after reflashing the phone. After the flash i noticed how smooth the phone was again. Installed many of my apps again (Nova Launcher / Widget Locker / Beautiful & HD Widgets and a ton other). The phone is still smooth and usable at the moment. I have not yet rerooted the phone, but will get to that very soon. My fear is the phone will probably start becoming slow again over time. What should i do? Has anyone else had a similar experience? Oh, and clearing cache also never sped the phone up again.. Just wish it would stay smooth like it is now.
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I noticed that my RAZR XT910 had become very slow after some time. I am using the UK jellybean firmware. Recently I had a problem that was only resolved after reflashing the phone. After the flash i noticed how smooth the phone was again. Installed many of my apps again (Nova Launcher / Widget Locker / Beautiful & HD Widgets and a ton other). The phone is still smooth and usable at the moment. I have not yet rerooted the phone, but will get to that very soon. My fear is the phone will probably start becoming slow again over time. What should i do? Has anyone else had a similar experience? Oh, and clearing cache also never sped the phone up again.. Just wish it would stay smooth like it is now.
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For running it smoothly you need more RAM free for tasks. So, if you open a Browser, then PlayStore and Music App your phone will tend to get slower (Sadly, Droid Razr only has 1GB unlike few other new phones). Also, putting many apps on your phone that remain open in background unnecessarily does not help (Some Apps use your phone even when you havent even opened them).
You can use the "Advanced Task Manager" or other task managers to monitor, how much RAM is being used, which tasks/Apps are using it and probably uninstall some of the garbage Apps. Also, you can kill the processes to free up RAM space, that will make your phone instantly fast, in case it tends to slow down.
I used the Cache clearing from Boot Menu, it did not help me out as well. So I finally had to put this task manager and use it to control my Apps whenever my phone slows down.
I noticed a little lag on the 4.2 kernel but it seems to be running smoother on the 4.3. I am using cyanogen mod 10.2 but just remember to flash the correct gapps if you go this route.
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Hi!
I met the same problem too. The interface was very slowly.
My solution was to increase more space on internal memory. I was almost full because I downloaded offline map files - a lot of small files in complicated folder hyerarhy (2 Gb).
Flash memory like SSD-disk needs free space for quick work.
I deleted offline files and reboot and miracle! My phone XT910 became as young dummy phone even on stock 4.0.4.
After that I started playing with custom firmware and now I am on 4.3.1 SlimBean and it is more smoothy and more free RAM without moto-soft.
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
Bogazicili90 said:
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova.....
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Does your phone work well with Sammy official firmware ?
baltics said:
I have used many different ROMS too. Some rebooted, others just ran out of memory. I decided that the real problem was Lollipop based ROMs.
So some months ago I flashed Slim i9300 4.4.4 -- I currently use build 9 (with SF fix -- at least for the bugs affecting KK Roms).
I flashed it using TWRP 2.8.6.1 though I now use TWRP 2.8.7.0.
Kernel: Boeffla 2.9 (with a BC file -- built by Edossi)
Gapps: Slim addons full gapps 4.4.4 build 9 - 20150107 zip.
SuperSU 2.49.
I use Nova Launcher.
I have Xposed installed and run Gravity Box 4.4.4 and Greenify from there.
I have an add blocker installed.
I have many heavy apps including Chrome and financial apps. I use BBC iplayer and watch streaming sport broadcasts on it too.
It NEVER reboots.
(add: My 4 year daughter can operate my S3 and she watches youtube for kids without any crashes)
If you install these and you still have crashes, I suggest that you have some data in your folders which is causing problems and draining your memory.
If you need links to any of these, I will provide them.
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Thank you. But I dont have any reboots. My problem isn't about Rebooting. My problem is about insufficient RAM. My phone does't operate well when there are some apps running in the background.
FLooDW said:
Does your phone work well with Sammy official firmware ?
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At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
Bogazicili90 said:
At least for 3 years I haven't used or tried any official firmware. My problem generally occurs after installing all the apps I used. On a clean flashed ROM I didn't have any RAM problem. I got problems after number of apps in phone and running in background increase. After I have customise the phone after flashing a ROM in a few hours phone gets slow and after 1 week it becomes unusable.
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To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
FLooDW said:
To be sure, I think you should try to install and use latest official firmware. with full wipe, root the phone, install and use TB to restore your apps over official firmware and try again your phone regarding RAM managment.
If you haven't problems anymore, then you don't have hardware issue and maybe your favorite apps aren't be the culprit.
Otherwise, if you still have RAM problems, then 2 options :
1- One or several of your apps are causing the RAM issue
2- You have hardware issue
I can't help anymore if you are sure that you have done everything possible with custom kernels / custom ROMs...
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Justin Thought said:
I think baltics is pointing you in the right direction. Best guess is there's an unruly app being greedy with your memory.
If you don't mind experimenting a little bit, I suggest you "step backward" a little bit, give KK another try and see if (after restoring your apps) you still are having problems. My personal recommendation is to try L-Droid KK here, because I used it for a daily driver for the life of the ROM, and it's bulletproof, while having about every feature you could ask for in a ROM. I only gave it up because after trying Lollipop, I really liked the format. The developer had planned to make a Lollipop, but his S3 died so he never started development.
Anyway, if you have problems with your equipment with this ROM, then you have either a hardware problem or a misbehaving app. And you can check the last choice by a VERY selective restore of your apps, one at a time.
Good luck, would be very interested to hear how it works out!
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whatsgood said:
I'd suggest to install the latest cm11 nightly with boeffla kernel NG v2.12. Lollipop is quite memory intensive for S3. cm11 is relatively vanilla and kitkat runs well on s3. I'd also suggest using this profile: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57850654&postcount=1422 but make sure you reset LMK values after applying. And if I'm not wrong, I believe the deadline governor caters more for multitasking? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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JohnSmit268 said:
Do you have greenify donation package with xposed? You have to equip these items on cm 12.1 greenifying all system and user apps except Google play services, media storage, contacts storage and your launcher. Always keep your apps fully greenified. Your problem is not that complicated. Just use this trick and your phone will fly. And as I said always keep the apps you don't need greenified.
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Thank you so much all! I have greenify donation package and now on JellYbean 4.3 I have xposed module too. I greenified most of the apps and it is much more better but still launcher loads widgets and shortcuts after coming back to homepage. However I haven't experienced crash on other apps like in Lollipop ROMs. Actually at this moment I am so confused about which version to flash because from one side I want to use the latest stable Android build Lollipop on the other side I want a stable and fast phone. With Lollipop ROMs it seems not probable. Does Xposed module works without problem on Lollipop ROMs? If yes which xposed installer should I flash. I have tried BlissPop and Archidroid ROMs but not Resurruction Remix yet. I may want to give it a try. Also I want to try a clean Lollipop ROM without restoring the apps but just downloading them from Store. And just the essential ones not all the apps. I have approximately 140-150 Apps on my phone but just 6-7 of them are running all others are greenified. Does this still affect the Ram management? In my opinion the number of apps isn't important as long as there are enough space in internal SD card. Only the running apps are related to RAM management right? So it should not be a matter to have 25 or 250 apps in the phone. Only the running apps in background should affect the performance of RAM. Which ROM do you suggest and with which Kernel?
BlissPop,
ArchiDroid,
ResurrectionRemix,
Any KitKat ROM you offer,
Any Jellybean ROM you offer,
ArchiKernel,
Boeffla Kernel,
Which version of ROM and Kernel
I like the options in Blisspop to customise the ROM but I experience crash issues in almost every app after restoring 150-200 apps. Before restoring i didn't experienced issues but it didn't last long. I generally restore in 20 minutes after flashing a ROM.
Archidroid doesn't have customisation options in the ROM so generally it is my second option to give a try.
I flashed Resurrection Remix only one time 2 or 3 months ago and even though it was a full wipe install I couldn't start the phone with that version it was always in bootloop. So I never tried it again but I may give it a try if you suggest again.
Personally, I always prefered Beoffla Kernel (I don't find a spesific superiority) but for Lollipop it is end of devolopment and there is no stable one for Lollipop. I tried Archi Kernel for it but battery seems more consuming with it.
I believe now the problem isn't about a hardware 'cause the apps doesn't crash with Jellybean. Only they don't stay at memory after changing the apps. I mean multitasking isn't working properly and this should be because of the number of apps. What do you suggest for the apps I used. Is it heavy for S3. Nova Launcher, SwiftKey Keyboard, Jorte Calendar, Beautiful Widgets, Tesla Unread for Nova Launcher, Poweramp Music Player and system apps are running in the background and still phone says only 15 mb free ram. It is so weird how it is 15 mb. My Uncle has an Galaxy Ace 2 and it has about 570 Mb. it also has the same apps except for keyboard app but it has 100-150 mb of free RAM all the time and it is Android 4.1.1 version stock rooted.
How much RAM do the Android OS versions consume for the system?
I am so sorry for long replies. I want to solve this problems until I buy an LG G4 in a few months...
Waiting your comments... Thank you.
Mate in my opinion almost all of the latest lollipop rom builds are stable and perfect with greenify. I myself use Resurrection Remix rom and have no problem but if you don't like it you can try this too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-i9300-t3254215
In the other hand tomorrow the first official cm 13 build will be released and as I tried the unofficial ones they were pretty flawless. You can wait and use them but if you hate bugs use cm 12.1 latest builds. About your launcher I only recommend stock Google now launcher. It is goddamn fast. Don't use nova or anything else, even trebechut is buggy and laggy. And keep in mind : never ever hibernate Google services app and Google now app this can make you slow!! And about kernel: no need for any custom one use the ones that come with the rom. Trust me it will work fine. And I Strongly recommend open gapps they are amazing: www.opengapps.org and don't worry you don't need to tweak anything just keep greenified I always have 300-400 free ram?
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Link to xposed for lollipop:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
RAM problems with S3
Bogazicili90 said:
My friends I need your help otherwise I will really be crazy or smash in my S3.
Firstly, I am an experienced user for flashing ROM, kernel etc. So You can ask me, if you need anything detailed.
I have serious RAM problems with my S3. My apps always restarting themselves including my Launcher, Nova. Because of this problem I jumped from ROM to ROM and waited with hope for every update in ROMs. But no help. I have this problem in every ROM I used and maybe the problem is hardware related. I don't know... I need your help about this issue.
I tried Archidroid 5.1 and Blisspop ROMs for a long time ( 6-7 months) and yesterday flashed NeatROM 4.3 to get rid of this problem but it is even worse in this ROM. When I go to working apps list from settings I see every second an app starts itself including Launcher and free RAM is around 15-90 MB. Since the launcher starts itself, apps and widgets loads themselves everytime, when I go to homepage from an app or settings. I always use greenify and now in NeatROM 4.3 I use it with xposed modules of it. Also I don't have so many apps running in the background but I don't know why I experience these issues.
Now, I use NeatROM 8.3 Jellybean 4.3 with Boeffla Kernel 5.1. After made a clean flash, I restored my apps with Titanium Backup with app+data. Then ı flashed Boeffla Kernel with wiping dalvik and cache.
My apps running in the background and approximate RAM usage for them is like this.
Nova Launcher >>> 35-60 MB
SwiftKey Keyboard >>>15-45 MB
Handcent SMS >>> 20-50 MB
Poweramp Music Player >>> 15-30 MB
Beautiful Widget >>> 5-20 MB
Jorte Calendar >>> 7-15 MB
Greenify >>> 7-15 MB
Adhan Time PRO >>> 10-20 MB
Beside these apps, Google Play Services has 3 apps and consuming at least 60-90 MB
I didn't install Facebook, Messenger etc. apps that consume a lot of RAM. Also, Instagram, Swarm etc. apps are always greenified.
With Beoffla Kernel, I tried some tweaks in both Lollipop ROMs and now with JellyBean too. Tweaked Android LMK settings in Boeffla Settings but no help with it and I loaded default settings again.
Now Phone is so slow and buggy, When I open an app and turn back to homepage, launcher items reload themselves slowly. On Homepage of launcher, I have Total 4 widgets in 4 pages and shortcuts for apps. Are those widgets heavy for the launcher? (See screenshots)
You can see my screenshots for launcher homepages, working apps list and turned off apps with Titanium Backup.
What could be the problem? Should I remove some of the above apps too? Am I doing something wrong? Could Restoring apps with their data can be the reason? Are the above apps heavy for S3?
Or do you thing my S3 has a hardware problem?
Please anyone who have an idea or suggestion comment here. I am really so pissed of with these issues I want to flash a stable customized ROM and use it until I upgrade my phone to a new one. Please help me especially developers.
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Hi, this is Mohand,
If you're on S3, then apply this procedure to the letter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-archidroid-v2-4-6-power-hands-t2354859
Unless you have hardware problems with your phone (as physical accident) you wouldn't experience any other issue with this custom rom: ArchiDroid-3.1.5
Why use Nova anyway? Stick to default launcher.
And you can use Dark Material for a change with an amazing set of layers.