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I have been an avid Android user for a few years now. I had an ATT Captivate which had a huge dev following. It was so easy to flash and switch ROMs on a whim.
This is my first HTC phone and over the weekend I went through the steps to unlock the bootloader then root it. To get it to root I had to load the Amon RA recovery and then install su and superuser. It worked and it appears I have root now. But I am confused what H-Boot, fastboot, etc are?? I'm used to the phone being able to boot right into recovery and then go through the clockworkmod options while in recovery, making it so easy to load a new ROM in a zip.
Is there anywhere I can read to learn more about the HTC bootloader, H-BOOT, fastboot, etc? It seems to be a lot more complicated than the OG Droid and my Galaxy S.
Thanks.
derek4484 said:
I have been an avid Android user for a few years now. I had an ATT Captivate which had a huge dev following. It was so easy to flash and switch ROMs on a whim.
This is my first HTC phone and over the weekend I went through the steps to unlock the bootloader then root it. To get it to root I had to load the Amon RA recovery and then install su and superuser. It worked and it appears I have root now. But I am confused what H-Boot, fastboot, etc are?? I'm used to the phone being able to boot right into recovery and then go through the clockworkmod options while in recovery, making it so easy to load a new ROM in a zip.
Is there anywhere I can read to learn more about the HTC bootloader, H-BOOT, fastboot, etc? It seems to be a lot more complicated than the OG Droid and my Galaxy S.
Thanks.
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It's actually not all that bad. The HTC bootloader(H-BOOT) is a locked up tighter than fort knox beast that doesn't want to let us do what we want to.. But for good reason. The HTC bootloader as you already know can be unlocked via HTCDev. This allows us to use custom ROMs, recovery, and kernels but keeps us from the radio. It also forces us to manually update the kernel with each ROM. Some developers have bundled a method of flashing the kernel within the ROM but it's from dev to dev/ROM to ROM.
Fastboot is a method to allow flashing of filesystems over USB. For instance when you flashed Amon-Ra you used a command "fastboot flash recovery xxxx.img" This tells the command to flash the recovery partition with xxxx.img.
Flashing via ClockWorkMod carries the same issue as described above. You either have to manually flash the kernel or the dev has to package the ROM to include automatic flashing. One of the caveats to automatic flashing is that it will update a version in your firmware(mainver) and potentially create issues. For this reason only, I suggest getting very comfortable with manually flashing a kernel vs the automated method.
If you have other questions feel free to ask. Or check out some of the wiki's out there like this one: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Folks,
I'm planning on picking up a Rezound this coming Friday, but before I do I want to make sure that there is reputable root out on this device. I've been reading through the threads and all I see is a temp root. First, which root have people used and recommend? What I think a temp root means is that simply I can root it, but if Verizon sends an OTA - I'll be unrooted again, is that correct? Also, if I root and load a new ROM I'm assuming that becomes a moot point and then I'm permanently rooted.
I know, newbie questions... sorry.
There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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There is definitely a permanent root method and a good development community for the rezound. I perm rooted my phone the first week I got it and haven't looked back.
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jeradsjunk said:
There is no temp root method on a phone that has the ota from the end of January. I'm sure most phones shipping now have this. To permanent root you need to unlock the boot loader on the htcdev website, flash amon ra recovery and then install superuser from the devolper menu in recovery.
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In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
Snuzzo said:
In continuation of your post if you don't mind;
or you can go straight to a custom rom after creating a nandroid backup.
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Yes you can go custom Rom immediately. I never did a nandroid backup. Just unlocked bootloader installed amon ra recovery. Flashed Rom after Rom lol
Just make sure to read thoroughly before flashing. If flashing GB roms most will require you to install the kernel and boot image but will basically be automated. Just nerd to hit the power button in bootloader then follow the steps.
If ICS you MAY need to run the ruu leak or run a patch for older firmware.
Sounds difficult but will make more sense when you are performing the flash.
So my girlfriends Legend has slowed to a near stop, she wasn't interested in rooting it before but now It's just unusable she's changed her mind.
So I was going to use htcdev to unlock the bootloader and root with HTCroot.
Once I have root can I install busybox and superuser straight from the market?
Can the stock kernal be overclocked?
And finally does the stock Rom run ok when debloated and overclocked?
I have read a lot of information but a lot of it seems outdated now htcdev exsists.
Nathanation said:
So my girlfriends Legend has slowed to a near stop, she wasn't interested in rooting it before but now It's just unusable she's changed her mind.
So I was going to use htcdev to unlock the bootloader and root with HTCroot.
Once I have root can I install busybox and superuser straight from the market?
Can the stock kernal be overclocked?
And finally does the stock Rom run ok when debloated and overclocked?
I have read a lot of information but a lot of it seems outdated now htcdev exsists.
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To answer a few of those q's no u can't over clock stock rom
Depending on which info your talking about, unless its rootung , then I wouldn't exactly say that the info was outdated all the principles are the same really.
One of the biggest killers for me was the stock Facebook rubbish getting it of my phone was a wonderful feeling
If u use HTC supper root tools you will already have busy box and super user, can't be rooted without them.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
Nathanation said:
So my girlfriends Legend has slowed to a near stop, she wasn't interested in rooting it before but now It's just unusable she's changed her mind.
So I was going to use htcdev to unlock the bootloader and root with HTCroot.
Once I have root can I install busybox and superuser straight from the market?
Can the stock kernal be overclocked?
And finally does the stock Rom run ok when debloated and overclocked?
I have read a lot of information but a lot of it seems outdated now htcdev exsists.
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If you are gonna use HTCDEV to unlock, then follow these steps and your gf's Legend will be re-born
1. Follow HTCDEV instructions to the T
2. You will be asked to create a folder, viz Android(similar to ADB in your c:\)
You need this to use fastboot to place unlock token to your phone. When you
done, Clockworkmod recovery img in the same folder and use fastboot for the
recovery img.
3. Once you have CWM recovery,place Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip in your
sdcard and installed it.Download busybox install from market and install
busybox 1.94 or whatever version u need.
You are rooted
4.Download this(http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=493093&d=1295359342) kernel and flashed it with CWM, and you can overclock or flash ICS or whatever, don't worry about S on once you are HTCDEV unlocked. One thing though, if on stock, you won't be able to use Darktremor A2sd script, well not unless you use his guide for developers, which is quite easy to follow. You can purchase Titanium backup pro or root uninstaller to uninstall apps in don't want, somewhat like customising your own rom
I have done 2 Legends this way so I can safely say it works. Enjoy
Thanks for this! Will be trying tomorrow, just got ICS on my EVO 3d lastnight, so still playing around with that.
Only thing that concerns me is uing adb, I've got away with not using with my other devices so far
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ndmuni said:
If you are gonna use HTCDEV to unlock, then follow these steps and your gf's Legend will be re-born
1. Follow HTCDEV instructions to the T
2. You will be asked to create a folder, viz Android(similar to ADB in your c:\)
You need this to use fastboot to place unlock token to your phone. When you
done, Clockworkmod recovery img in the same folder and use fastboot for the
recovery img.
3. Once you have CWM recovery,place Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip in your
sdcard and installed it.Download busybox install from market and install
busybox 1.94 or whatever version u need.
You are rooted
4.Download this(http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=493093&d=1295359342) kernel and flashed it with CWM, and you can overclock or flash ICS or whatever, don't worry about S on once you are HTCDEV unlocked. One thing though, if on stock, you won't be able to use Darktremor A2sd script, well not unless you use his guide for developers, which is quite easy to follow. You can purchase Titanium backup pro or root uninstaller to uninstall apps in don't want, somewhat like customising your own rom
I have done 2 Legends this way so I can safely say it works. Enjoy
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I used your method and it worked great, I didn't flash whatever this is;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=493093&d=1295359342??
I just wiped everything and flashed the ICS Beta. It works great for a beta, really impressed. Confused why it can't find my wireless network though, loads come up in the network list, just not mine, all my other devices connect fine...
And the legend connected to my parents network ok, just dosnt see my network at home....
Also my girlfriends happy she can finally use her phone!
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Relevant rooting question:
OK. So I'd finally like to root my HTC Legend in order to install Cyanogenmod. But I'm still a bit afraid to do so.. Warranty issues etc.
But if I want to install Cyanogenmod the easy way, this is what I have to do right?
1) Use the official Unlocker to unlock the bootloader
2) Use HTC Supertool V3 to root the phone
3) Install Cyanogenmod
This is correct right? Is there anything that could go wrong? (Well, of course there is, but I mean: Is this relatively safe and fool-proof to do?)
I'm all very new into Android and especially rooting, so...
Thx.
Just use HTC dev to unlock, then do the steps listed above, install clockworkmod and super user, then you can flash any Rom you want by booting into recovery mode.
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If I accept the ota update from HTC will it mess up my phone or make ne lose root?
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Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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rcbarr said:
Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
bpdamas said:
You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
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I already have installed the OTA. My phone, previous to the OTA, was just rooted, no unlock & stock recovery.
I have an S-Off OG EVO as well as a S-Off EVO 3D.
My EVO lte I would like to keep as stock as possible, but with root. When it is now longer my daily driver, I will be more likely to hack on it. But as my primary phone I want it as easy as possible to stay current with the radios and ROM.
Does twrp have an option restore the stock recovery? Or do I need to download that and flash it via something other than twrp?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
Or if in steps you want:
1.) Root: How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux]
2.) Backup apps and data you want to keep using Titanium
3.) S-Off: [S-OFF] LazyPanda S-OFF
4.) Recovery: [6/1/12] TWRP 2.1.8 - TeamWinRecoveryProject - now with usb!
5.) Nandroid backup inside TWRP
6.) New Rom: [ROM] Jul-12 MeanROM ICS v1.4 | 1.22.651.3 | 1.5-1.9 Ghz | Mods | Batt saver
6.5) Flash New Firmware: Read down on Mean's thread about flashing firmware.
Profit.
mmmdieselfumes said:
Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
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Thanks for the reply, but I have already taken the OTA, so going full S-Off is no longer an option, nor is it my objective at this time.
My objective is to have a Stock Phone able to receive a future OTA update, and have root access.
I am pretty clear on doing the HTC Dev Unlock, installing twrp recovery, & flashing SU from twrp. I'm just a little fuzzy on how to restore stock recovery.
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Oh wait!
Does doing the HTC Dev Unlock wipe the phone? I really don't want to have to rebuild my apps and configs without being able to Titanium Backup first!
Is there anyone even working on a software root for the current OTA? I don't mind waiting for a software root. But if one is not coming, then I need to schedule a few hours to go the Dev Unlock route. Redoing my app setup and config will take the most time. Even with the titanium backups from when I got the phone it will still takes hours to get everything back to where I want it to be.
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
jsonger121 said:
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
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It's just so unfortunate that having root access to your OS is something that the carriers want to so thoroughly discourage.
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
i respect ur decision but my evo is my daily driver and i have unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have s-off and have mean rom installed and its flawless man. i never have any issues like some ppl talk about. and whenever the new viper rom comes out it will be the same way im sure.
I am trying to do the same thing jsonger121.
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sschlosnagle said:
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
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I use mine as a daily driver, and for my job, it's a business critical aspect. It's easy to find a rom that's stable (Mean Rom), and doesn't "hack" things so much as enhance the capabilities that you already have. That's why I prefer to be completely unlocked, so I can do what I need to do, but still have the flexibility to accomplish the things I'd like to do. I've always thought that if you just want something "so simple, a caveman can do it", you go with something vanilla and boring like apple's products.
I have s-on, is there a guide to get s-off?
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Is this the correct procedure for a clean root, with s-off, and twrp recovery? My phone has never been rooted, or taken an OTA updates.
1) Root with zedomax -- This is now done, and the phone is rooted. Root apps run fine.
2) Use Lazy Panda to achieve s-off.
3) Install TWRP (I guess via GooManager)
I'm assuming after these steps, my phone apps are all still there, although it would be safer to install Titanium after step (1), and back them up.
Let me know if I have this right. Thanks in advance...
Yep, that's pretty much it. Like you said, you may want to use TB before getting s-off (just in case). Otherwise, do just like you say and you should be fully rooted with s-off and custom recovery. Good luck
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