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greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
Sent from my Atrix 4G running CM9.
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I cannot say whether or not it is worth it, because I have no experience with any other Android tablets besides the Nook, but I can confirm according to its website that is does have half the ram as well as half the storage. 8 GB storage and 512k ram.
Beldan4 said:
greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
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You may have noticed in the video that this forum is stricter than others. It's mainly to keep things from getting repeated and to save people time, though, and it works nicely that way. Developing is hard work. BTW, no one's head is gonna explode about this, but questions like this are probably best off in the Q&A section.
So, to answer your question, the RAM is halved, the storage is more readily accessible but also halved... is it worth the $50 dollars you save? Sure! It has the same specs and price of the Kindle fire, but with SD storage as well, and the Fire works just fine with 512 mb of RAM.
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its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
Sent from my Atrix 4G running CM9.
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No the RAM is indeed halved. All of the mainstream tech sites are reporting this, it's not a rumor.
As for partitioning, Nook Tabs are veeery picky about partition schemes,nso that's kinda dangerous. But the current alpha of CM7 gets you better access to the storage, and future releases are planned to allow full access.
my appolgies. tis a problem i usualy have figuring out which forum to post in, this seemed like the likely canidate since there were allready so many posts about the nook tablet 8gb. I will try to keep in mind that this is for tech questions only.
Thank-you very much for the feedback.
For $50 twice the ram and more storage (at least when you put CM7 on it). it seems easily worth it.
My opinion - definitely not worth it.
I got CM7 running on it, and I can see just how important it is.
You won't be running BN's ROM forever, and when you switch to CM7 (with CM9 coming soon, it seems), you really gonna wish you had that RAM, trust me.
I bought a NT last week on Ebay from B&N for $199. Not sure if they are still on sale, but you might check.
If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
Personally I'd shell out the extra few bucks for the RAM as well. If it were just the storage being reduced, I'd go with it, but the RAM is too important, imo.
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If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
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They're thinking that many consumers don't seem to know or care about the RAM (or other advantages of the Nook hardware), they just look at the price tag and $199 for the Fire beats $249. I hope it helps, though they've got a mountain to climb to overcome the Amazon ecosystem and Appstore.
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
If only I'd known this 2 days ago when I bought an 8GB version while being in the USA... Figured the 8GB less flash wasn't a big deal if you're using an SD card anyway, and not knowing about the RAM I "saved" some bucks. Now I'm back in Belgium with an 8GB Nook, with half the RAM too, and at the moment unable to run CM... Great
Anyway, I hope someone can get it to root and/or run CM soon!
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rootability (at least currently) also looks questionable
I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
They have figured out how to boot off an SD card for the 8G, now they are moving that over to the rooting SD versions and the recovery versions.
It will take a little bit of time but I think we will see a lot of progress in this next week.
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I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
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Lychii said:
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
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I actually agree very much with this. The Kindle Fire's also ahead in terms of custom ROMs since it's not locked up. I chose the Nook Tablet (16 GB version) because I could buy it from my school bookstore and also use it with textbooks from my school.
If you have to choose between 8GB Nook Tab and 16GB Nook Tab, go with the 16 GB one. But if you're choosing between an 8GB Nook Tab and a Kindle Fire, I'd go with the Fire.
RAM use vs storage??
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I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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Okay, this is a common misconception about computer storage vs. memory. They're not really the same thing, although the words used to describe them are very similar.
RAM/Memory = How much your computer can keep loaded up temporarily. Think of it as how much someone could be thinking about at once - RAM is important for a computer or device to be able to multi-task.
Storage/Disk space = How much information a computer can recall. Think of it as how much someone could remember.
Now, storage allows you to have more files on your device, but RAM allows your device to be more powerful and run more applications at once.
Hi, I'd like to buy nook tablet 16GB.
My question is if it is different in any other way than the 8GB?
Is rooting procedure the same?
I know it might be a silly question but I've seen that many people around have only 8GB.
And the last question, maybe I'm a little bit lazy, but does root procedure enable me to do the dual boot, or I can do it without rooting? Is dual booting more efficient than just "modding"?
the first model came with 1GB of working ram and the later comes with 512MB so that one fact is giving the forum developers a 'major' pain...
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imho, i believe you just need to go to the general section and do some reading of the FAQ posts...
Simply rooting on the stock OS enables access to content/features you otherwise would not have. However, there are still some limitations. You could thus install cm7 or cm9 (cm9 only for 16gb model) internally, saying goodbye to the stock OS entirely. You could leave the internal OS alone and make a bootable SD card for cm7 on either NT model. This would thus allow you to either boot into cm7 or B&N android (dual boot). Do some reading and see what fits your needs best.
I should note that while many people avoid replacing the internal OS due to worries about voiding the warranty, it is trivially easy to return this thing back to stock conditions and B&N would never be the wiser.
Sent from my NookTablet using Tapatalk
What do you mean by "working" RAM?
Like every model has 1GB of RAM, but later ones have only access to 512MB?
Last fall, Barnes & Noble unveiled its Nook Tablet in a very distinct way. Instead of matching the Kindle Fire’s $200 price, the CEO systematically trashed the Fire with an entire slide show full of ways that the Nook Tablet was superior to the Fire (spec comarison here) and worth its more expensive $250 price tag. Among its vital advantages was double the storage (16GB) and RAM (1GB) of the Fire. Compared to these specs, the Fire underpowered and slow, the B&N argued. It’s only been a few months, but oh how things have changed. Today, B&N unveiled a new version of the Nook Tablet with the same RAM and storage as the Kindle Fire. The price: $200.
To be fair, even with the drastic cut in specs, the Nook Tablet does still have a few advantages over the Kindle Fire. We were never able to obtain a Nook Tablet for review, but from our impressions at the launch event, the ‘VividView’ display on Nook is much better and the microSD slot for expanded storage is nice, if you need it. But the cut in RAM will likely mean that the tablet will lose that quick responsiveness that separated it from the sluggish Fire.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/bn-eats-its-words-unveils-a-weaker-8gb-nook-tablet-for-200/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Barnes-Nobl...708616?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item2c64bd9b08#shId
Is there any way (except from asking a question to a seller) to find if this tablet has 1GB of RAM?
Waszker said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Barnes-Nobl...708616?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item2c64bd9b08#shId
Is there any way (except from asking a question to a seller) to find if this tablet has 1GB of RAM?
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If its 16gb HAS 1GB ram
Just to confirm, demetris_I is correct. The 16GB model has 1GB of RAM.
I originally posted this in the wrong section, so I am reposting it hear. Hopefully I can get some help.
I paid for a CPO 8gb NT
The receipt in the box says 16gb
The model # reads BNTV250 (not BNTV250a as would be expected for a 8gb model)
But, when I look at available memory, it reads:
B+N conect about 6gb (actually just under 6gb)
Other content: 8gb available
I am confused, do I have a 8gb (that I ordered and paid for) or did I get a 16gb version?
Sure looks like you got a 16GB. I heard of someone else getting that because they sold out of the 8GB and didn't stop the ad in time, or something like that, so they shipped 16GB instead. Congratulations! :good:
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I originally posted this in the wrong section, so I am reposting it hear. Hopefully I can get some help.
I paid for a CPO 8gb NT
The receipt in the box says 16gb
The model # reads BNTV250 (not BNTV250a as would be expected for a 8gb model)
But, when I look at available memory, it reads:
B+N conect about 6gb (actually just under 6gb)
Other content: 8gb available
I am confused, do I have a 8gb (that I ordered and paid for) or did I get a 16gb version?
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Same here bought 2 on Cyber monday for $79. Showed up in 16GB box and under model in settings it says BNTV250. Would like to know though cause if it is I wanna install CM10.
I'd say the 16 GB
Nikkiel
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NikkieL said:
I'd say the 16 GB
Nikkiel
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet using xda premium
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Do you have the 16? How much space does it say you have? I have 6 for b&n content and an extra 8 so wondering you know.
Model NO. BNTV250
FCC ID has a -a at the end though?
enixidfrag said:
Do you have the 16? How much space does it say you have? I have 6 for b&n content and an extra 8 so wondering you know.
Model NO. BNTV250
FCC ID has a -a at the end though?
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You have the 16GB. The -a is on mine. Like stated previously, they ran out of 8GB and shipped 16GB so customers wouldn't get mad.
Sent from my NT running CM10
The 16GB model. Congratulations on getting more than what you paid for.
Roms for the Nook Tablet 8gb with 1gb ram?
ok i guess im new here, i decided to pick up one of these nook tablets 8gb 1gb of ram, mostly to root rom and what not... i see that CyMod 10 is out on nightly and that was my plan... but i see that it may only support the nook tablet with 8gb of ram and 512 of memory... welp the tablet is on the way... i just hope i can find a rom that will support it.. i hope the 8gb ram and 1gb memory ones are not orphan... meaning there is no on going roms and kernals and stuff for them...
i already have a rooted tf101
and a rooted Minix x5 android tv box so im not completely clueless... but i just did not research the nook tablet with 8gb 1gb ram well enough to know for shure.
edit: posted this in the wrong section before... dont ya hate newbs?
I wasn't even aware there existed an 8GB with 1GB RAM. Are you sure that's what you have? If it's indeed has 1 GB RAM it should be a 16 GB model. CHeck your model no again. BN250 is the 16GB and BN250A is the 8GB.
asawi said:
I wasn't even aware there existed an 8GB with 1GB RAM. Are you sure that's what you have? If it's indeed has 1 GB RAM it should be a 16 GB model. CHeck your model no again. BN250 is the 16GB and BN250A is the 8GB.
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Nope,
BN250A=16gb/1gb ram
BN250=8gb/512mb ram
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Nope,
BN250A=16gb/1gb ram
BN250=8gb/512mb ram
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I''m pretty sure it's the other way around with 250 being the 16GB and 250A being the 8GB.
asawi said:
I''m pretty sure it's the other way around with 250 being the 16GB and 250A being the 8GB.
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Yeap you are right
I re-read the back it has the 250-A on it but under them model is without the -A so 250!
Sorry for missinforming.
demetris_I said:
Yeap you are right
I re-read the back it has the 250-A on it but under them model is without the -A so 250!
Sorry for missinforming.
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well, seems the advert was in error... i decided to hunt a bit and see if i could find a 16gb for around the same price... it was 10 bucks more but heck... i wanted 1 gb of ram and i just wanted something to wait out the release of the new nexus 7... and i wanted to have something that had a dev community behind it.... so.. no sale 1saleaday.... i got my money back...they did not even argue!!! just refund... i cannot stand it when some online store gets the specs wrong on a device... i will never use them again... looking forward to the new old tablet though... and all the rooting and romming stuff..
Hello everyone,
I recently acquired a 7" tablet from my parents as a birthday present, and I have a niggling problem with it, but first I need to properly identify it.
Help me identify it
I know it is an Archos, it was bought from Argos in the UK, branded as an ALBA 7" Tablet. Using CPU-Z I see it is an Archos, but I can't identify exactly which model. The Board is listed as an AC70PLV2, it uses a MediaTek MT8127 chipset. Can anyone tell me exactly what Archos model it comes under? Cobalt? What Gen is it? If I Google AC70PLV2 only the Argos page comes up, no other results.
My issue
It is running Android 5.0.1, I have inserted a 16GB SD card, and there is NO Move to SD option, anywhere for apps. It only has 8GB of storage, 4.23GB of it is used by Firmware, leaving me with only 3.72GB usable after disabling all non-removable bloat. If I cannot move game data to the SD the tablet is useless to me and I'll have to regrettably ask my mum to take it back. I saw on some forum that if I go into Storage in Settings, then click Apps, then the three dots at top right, there should be a Storage Preferences option allowing me to change default storage to SD, but there isn't, only "Sort by Name", and "Reset App Preferences".
Installing games like GTA, SBK 14, and the new Android Tomb Raider temple run style game, all make the data be installed on internal memory, and as far as I can tell there is no emulated SD on it. There appear to be folders on the external SD for the games, but it isn't using them, it's using internal.
I've come from an Ace 2 phone which had Cyanogen 10.2 custom ROM, everything was perfect with it, and all big apps could be moved, as I swapped the storages around on it. Is there a Custom ROM for my tablet that I can do the same? I'd take screenshots but don't think this stock thing has the option. It's a cracking tablet, just this one issue for large games is a dealbreaker. I can run videos, pics and music off the external SD just fine. My dad's Galaxy S5 is running Android 5.0, his has a Move to SD option, and that's with stock TouchWiz
Anyone that can help I thank you so much. I don't want to demean myself having to ask my mum to take it back I have a feeling Archos have nobbled it, but that's crazy as it only has 3.7GB usable. One final thing is I DON'T want to be using 3rd party move to SD apps. This option has been built into Android for as long as I remember, why it's missing now I don't know.
Hello,
This tablet has to be an Archos Platinum 70.
This id matches in the build.prop of mine, altough both ac70plv2 and ac70pl3 appear, the latter being used as a model id for OTA updates, so I suspect I might have a newer revision.
Otherwise, the two tablets look like clones based on what I can find on the Alba-branded one.
This tablet boasts Archos' new trick called "unified storage", where space provided by an external SD card is supposed to be merged with internal storage, transparently making it bigger.
Obviously this doesn't seem to work this way on yours. DIfferent firmware version?
Lannig said:
Hello,
This tablet has to be an Archos Platinum 70.
This id matches in the build.prop of mine, altough both ac70plv2 and ac70pl3 appear, the latter being used as a model id for OTA updates, so I suspect I might have a newer revision.
Otherwise, the two tablets look like clones based on what I can find on the Alba-branded one.
This tablet boasts Archos' new trick called "unified storage", where space provided by an external SD card is supposed to be merged with internal storage, transparently making it bigger.
Obviously this doesn't seem to work this way on yours. DIfferent firmware version?
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Thankyou lannig! I was curious about the unified storage, but no it doesn't seem to work. It appears to treat them the same, but once the internal is filled the "Insufficient storage" error keeps coming up, not giving me the option to use the external. Archos have just updated their website, and the Platinum 70 is indeed the same one as mine, I hunted for hours on their site and it wasn't there before. Sadly I've decided to ask my mum to see if she can get me a 16GB tablet, but it's nearing the 30 day limit, she doesn't have the money just yet, so I may end up stuck with the Platinum. A real shame, if it had 16GB internal storage it'd be perfect, but 8GB is the only option they offer for this model.
Well, if you're a very, very daring soul, you may want to try applying the OTA firmware update meant for the Archos Platinum 70.
It can be found at http://update.archos.com/AFMv1/storage/files/full/ac70plv3/20150723.065346/update-from-archos.zip
You'll have to install it from stock recovery.
Since I suspect there might be subtle hardware differences between the Archos-branded model and yours, there's a significant risk of bricking it. You have been warned.
Lannig said:
Well, if you're a very, very daring soul, you may want to try applying the OTA firmware update meant for the Archos Platinum 70.
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Thanks again Lannig, although there's no need for that, as today my tablet was replaced, and I am one HAPPY bunny! I've received the 8 Inch Bush Spira B1 32GB (An Archos AC80DPL) as a replacement, and it has the default storage switch option that the Alba was missing, so now I have 64GB of switchable space including my SD card! I KNEW someone had crippled that cheapo Alba!
You've been wonderful with your advice, thankyou ever so much for taking the time to help me, I really appreciate it, and will do the same for you if I ever see you needing rescuing from a disaster, SuperNerd James to the rescue!
Well, thanks for the feedback. Glad to know that it turned out this way for you
And you're quite welcome.
Didn't realize that these Archos tablets were being sold rebranded under so many different names abroad...
Bush Spira 8" 32 GB
That's weird. I've got the same Bush Spira tablet as you but I don't have the option to combine the internal and external memory. In fact, the opposite is true. I can't write anything to the external micro sd card at all, seems like they nobbled this one too, obviously after you got it.
What is your firmware version? Seems like I've got a different version.
SuperJames1985 said:
Hello everyone,
I recently acquired a 7" tablet from my parents as a birthday present, and I have a niggling problem with it, but first I need to properly identify it.
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Did you ever find a custom ROM for this? I have (near enough) the same tablet
Hello, everyone!
I have a small problem and not open new topic I will write directly here.
First my English is very bad for that I apologize!
I got my tablet with brand Alba AC70PLV2
chip MEDIATEK ARM MT8127A 1432-BASH!
I search firmware but no find, because my bricked
Try another firmvare but nothing happens (apparently must be the same)
Help me please